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I've heard him described as the Bob Ross of indie horror games

@@KristofskiKabukivery accurate.

Agreed! He hasn’t got nowhere near the recognition he deserves either. He should have millions of subs by now. He’s been at this a very long time. Idk how the screaming, fake overreacting gamers have so many subs. 😊

@@KristofskiKabuki Can't agree more to this!

@@mandivvy I'd suspect that most of the subscribers of those over-the-top, drama queen gamers are immature--whatever their chronological age. Once you have some real-life experience, all the histrionics just seem a pathetic waste of time, imo.

agree on the VA! she did an amazing job!

Eh she was okay nothing note worthy

It was me :)

@@jessicamfisher6356 Then I would suggest you get some more work in video game voice acting, because you were brilliant! Best of luck in all your future va stuff. Would love to hear more in future games!

I'm glad someone else saw the discrepancy was just about to comment

I took it as if she was talking like: I was a teenager once,too As in, when she was "suppoused" to be a parent for him

No, you misunderstood. Maya was talking about she was a parent to Nik when she was a teen at 15 yrs old. So it is accurate. She was mostly talking about why she couldn't raise Nik well, cause she was a teen parent. Her talking about that is not connected to nor does it mentions her age when Nik was 16. Even at age 23, it can be tough to parent. Especially to a troubled, headstrong, alcoholic teen sibling. Especially since Maya said she felt thrusted into parenthood as a teen and she said she was dealing her own demons too at 7:09

Yup. That would have left room for a sequel, for sure. 👍

She should have loaded the PC and game up into her trunk and left, to begin with. Get more information on what you are dealing with before just blundering into it half cocked.

Oh wow gameanyone 😂 that takes me back. Thanks for sticking with me 😁

Why was the monologueing about the tragic past cheesy, and why did you think it was melodramatic? I thought it was short and tame. Maya spoke about it simply. She wasn't emotional about it. It gives context. Some devs want to keep their games short too. I thought just the appearance of the grimy apartment was fine and didn't need Maya commenting on it. I think it makes more sense for Maya to just care about running after Nik as fast as she could. I think it's fine, good, and realistic to not depict every character as so scared or shocked. Maya did comment a little about how she thought someone was in the bathtub. Maya was talking about she was a parent to Nik when she was a teen at 15 yrs old. So it is accurate. She was mostly talking about why she couldn't raise Nik well, cause she was a teen parent. Her talking about that is not connected to nor does it mentions her age when Nik was 16. Even at age 23, it can be tough to parent. Especially to a troubled, headstrong, alcoholic teen sibling. Especially since Maya said she felt thrusted into parenthood as a teen and she said she was dealing her own demons too at 7:09

Soon he'll be listening to jazz! The horror!

7:02 Maya said they never knew their father. For the metal, I think it was specifically talking about Nik. To which, some troubled people do turn to metal. Don't some people into metal like to talk about or justify that metal sings about pain and misery a lot? I mean if people are singing about pain why wouldn't that attract troubled people? Troubled doesn't mean he's a bad person. Those metal posters aren't exactly positive pictures. The look like they could be posters for the horror genre. I'm not knocking metal. I like Nightwish. Do you stigmatize any hobbies or genres? It's not just metal, every hobby has stigmas. Twosetviolin shows comments of some people saying people into classical music are elitist snobs.

Maybe Maya and Nik could have different fathers or the dad was absent in their lives. Or maybe that part is a plothole. The devs could've make the dad disappear a different way. Maya was talking about she was a parent to Nik when she was a teen at 15 yrs old. So it is accurate. She was mostly talking about why she couldn't raise Nik well, cause she was a teen parent. Her talking about that is not connected to nor does it mentions her age when Nik was 16. Even at age 23, it can be tough to parent. Especially to a troubled, headstrong, alcoholic teen sibling. Especially since Maya said she felt thrusted into parenthood as a teen and she said she was dealing her own demons too at 7:09

Nik didn't really know. He's not all bad. Family still wants to help each other. Maya feels kinda guilty for not raising Nik that well too.

@user-gu9yq5sj7c that's a fair point. I dont think he is a bad guy. To me, it felt like he knew something was up with the game and he went deep to find the game. I made the comment before watching the end. He did save her at the end. And you're right. Family helping family. And it isnt Maya's fault about their raising. She was a kid too.

28:36 It's like Nik's message log said, if Maya didn't hear from him in a long time she would come looking. He had to try. Otherwise if he didn't he might feel guilty too.

28:36 It's like Nik's message log said, if Maya didn't hear from him in a long time she would come looking. He had to try. Otherwise if he didn't he might feel guilty too.

I'll have to disagree a rushed ending isn't exactly something that makes you want more it's more of a sudden stop that doesn't feel it completed the story. I feel like it actually ended rather well.

@@tazymomo9394 I meant more that I felt like the player is rushed through the ending, not that the developers rushed making it!

Same. Metalheads associate mostly with alcohol (beer, to be more specific). Me though, I was straight as an arrow in my metalhead days (tho death metal was only a side interest)

@@aviannte so true!!

I didn't think the game was connecting metal and drugs. But it was talking about Nik being a troubled person and turning to metal because of it. Which some do. Don't some people into metal like to talk about or justify that metal sings about pain and misery a lot? I mean if people are singing about pain why wouldn't that attract troubled people? Troubled doesn't mean he's a bad person. Those metal posters aren't exactly positive pictures. The look like they could be posters for the horror genre. Don't some people into rock or metal take or sing about drugs or alcohol? I like Nightwish(metal band) but some of the members like to drink alcohol too much. In some of their concert videos, the singer Marco was even drunk and slurring his words. People in the comments even commented on it. Do you stigmatize any hobbies or genres? It's not just metal, every hobby has stigmas. Twosetviolin shows comments of some people saying people into classical music are elitist snobs.

I genuinely thought it would end with Maya being sucked into the game too. Btw, Happy New Year Dear 😘😘

No cause it's a common or plain set up.

Yeah I actually cringed.

What do you mean by "I only wish it would take itself a little less seriously"? This game didn't criticize video games. Where's that in this game? For the metal, I think it was specifically talking about Nik. To which, some troubled people do turn to metal. Don't some people into metal like to talk about or justify that metal sings about pain and misery a lot? I mean if people are singing about pain why wouldn't that attract troubled people? Troubled doesn't mean he's a bad person. Those metal posters aren't exactly positive pictures. The look like they could be posters for the horror genre. I'm not knocking metal. I like Nightwish. Do you stigmatize any hobbies or genres? It's not just metal, every hobby has stigmas. Twosetviolin shows comments of some people saying people into classical music are elitist snobs.

@@user-gu9yq5sj7c Regarding metal, the game says he didn't listen to "anything more violent than Metallica", then when he started getting in trouble he started to turn to death metal : that just reminded me about the psychosis in the 90's that listening to heavy music turned teenagers into suicidal, violent and/or or satanist people, which is ridiculous let's be clear. The game seemed to follow the same argument. Interestingly, the same bullshit theory has been applied to videogames btw. That, and the fact that the game's subject is, let's be honest for a second, quite goofy (which is perfectly fine!), but is treated without even a hint of tongue-in-cheeck humor, made me write that it takes itself very seriously while I think it could have played with its theme a little bit. But don't get me wrong, these are just 2 small details that bothered me, I liked the game overall.

Yvonne Strahovsky would be too expensive for a game like this. Just someone who sounds similar

I didn't take it as Nik using Maya. But that he's troubled or has mental illness, and she wants to help him. Maya also kinda feels guilty she didn't raise Nik well enough. There are family or sibling relationships like that. Where they don't really communicate but when they do, are still friendly to each other or call for trouble. There's a comment here that said that. Why is it unbelievable for a aunt or guardian to be negligent? Maybe, like Maya, cause the aunt was unwantedly and unpreparedly thrusted into parenthood. Maybe the aunt thought Maya is a teen and could take care of herself and her brother. The demon didn't seek out Maya. She came to it looking for Nik. For the metal, I think it was specifically talking about Nik. To which, some troubled people do turn to metal. Don't some people into metal like to talk about or justify that metal sings about pain and misery a lot? I mean if people are singing about pain why wouldn't that attract troubled people? Troubled doesn't mean he's a bad person. Those metal posters aren't exactly positive pictures. The look like they could be posters for the horror genre. I'm not knocking metal. I like Nightwish. Do you stigmatize any hobbies or genres? It's not just metal, every hobby has stigmas. Twosetviolin shows comments of some people saying people into classical music are elitist snobs. Maya was talking about she was a parent to Nik when she was a teen at 15 yrs old. So it is accurate. She was mostly talking about why she couldn't raise Nik well, cause she was a teen parent. Her talking about that is not connected to nor does it mentions her age when Nik was 16. Even at age 23, it can be tough to parent. Especially to a troubled, headstrong, alcoholic teen sibling. Especially since Maya said she felt thrusted into parenthood as a teen and she said she was dealing her own demons too at 7:09 13:49 Nik's message log about the game and there not being much else to go on does motivate Maya to look into the game.

@@user-gu9yq5sj7c I know there’s different types of familial relationships but, only going to another person when they need a favor, never actually being there for them (emotionally or physically), isn't a healthy relationship at all. He’s an adult who kept choosing to get drunk, waste his money, etc. And no matter how many times Maya helped him, he just went back to those same shitty choices--only coming to her when he needed to be bailed out. Never helped Maya once (expect for saving her from the demon I guess). Definitely looks one-sided to me. About the aunt, I never said I didn’t believe that parents/guardians can’t be neglectful-unfortunately some are. I said that the game never addresses it. It kept trying to take itself too seriously yet avoids going into any detail about it, despite how much the dialogue turns into a terrible trauma dump. Maya blaming herself even though it was never her job at 15 to be a substitute parent to Nik would’ve been interesting to dive into, but it only scratches the surface level of that-mostly through 1 or 2 dialogue lines from the demon AT THE END OF THE GAME. The writing needed some polish for sure. Also it’s a demon that feeds off guilt and kept luring Maya further in only once she started playing. That’s why it later impersonated Nik and mocked Maya towards the end. It was trying to take her to feed off her guilt too. As far as the music, I had a problem with the GAME literally treating Nik listening to death metal as a bad thing and part of his troubled life. Even Maya’s remarks on ‘he used to only listen to pop, what happened’ as if listening to that type of music is bad. Feeding into that old dumb trope of ‘the devil’s music and people that listen to it are evil’. That was in the writing itself. You just have to do the math to know there’s supposed to be 7 years between them since the mom died when Maya was 15 and Nik was 8. Meaning that when Nik was 16, Maya would be 23. Not a teenager. The game itself did the math wrong-other people in the comments pointed it out too. It would've made more sense for the game to turn on by itself once Maya boots the PC and finds nothing. Maybe with a picture of Nik and her hearing his voice or something to give an incentive as to why she would stop and play a game rather than leave his apartment and start asking neighbors/landlord/etc. for actual clues.

How was it trying too hard? Aren't a lot of games or horror games written like that? It gives context. Some devs want to keep their games short. Maya talking about it was short and tame. She spoke simply and didn't get emotional.

@@user-gu9yq5sj7c oh I mean too hard in that it's a massive trauma dump in exposition in such a short time at the start when they could spaced it out a little more throughout the game (as short as the game is) or let some of the surrounding do the talking for itself. The voice acting is totally fine.

@@user-gu9yq5sj7c What's wrong with "getting emotional"? Or did you not mean it in the negative seeming way that it comes across?

live gnihtemos.

Is your timestamp incorrect? Did you mean 0:40? Isn't the verse similar but in a different translation?

@@user-gu9yq5sj7c I copied the verse straight out of the KJV English Translation word for word . Looks like the verse is similar but even so the in-game version is out of context almost like it's a paraphrase of the original bible verse. ☮

Yeah, the levels of exposition in the beginning of this make it challenge

Why? Isn't that how lots of stories or horror stories are written? Maya talking about their trauma was short and tame. She spoke simply and wasn't emotional about it. It gives context. Some devs want to keep their games short too.

I agree with "a". Even though I get annoyed with "a" repeating things they've already stated in other posts , for once they didn't repeat their self here. Any way , like "a" said , she kept it short and simple. Giving back story things in pieces rather than a huge info dump all at once is nice. Good pacing.... no huge / rushed info dump , is it weird because it's personal and / or you relate to it on some level and it "hits too close to home" or is it weird in that you "can't relate" so there's dissonance / dischord or some thing like that...? ( sorry not sure what the correct word to use here would be ) Like it takes you out of immersion? Why does it matter if they are made up characters or not? Sorry not trying to argue just trying to under stand you