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Pray for Kanye's Producers 

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The texts: / 1435215103230717960
Sevdaliza's post: / ctjzr6ytggo
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@fantano
@fantano 2 года назад
We were informed SZA shared the post in question without the context of the Kanye texts, intending it to reflect her own struggles in the industry. As such, we've cut mentions of her from the video and discourage negativity thrown her way on this matter. We don't encourage that shit anyway, but should be said.
@gaelthehuman1290
@gaelthehuman1290 2 года назад
Nice, that’s very good to know 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
@773ohh6
@773ohh6 2 года назад
Thank you
@windowseher
@windowseher 2 года назад
that's a huge relief
@JaydevRaol
@JaydevRaol 2 года назад
👍
@maka8551
@maka8551 2 года назад
Thought SZA was based. Too bad
@fakenamerealchungus9851
@fakenamerealchungus9851 2 года назад
SZA be like "slaves made your Jordans but that's alright because they're fly"
@cathuria5818
@cathuria5818 2 года назад
The fucking irony of 🖤 defending slavery is hilarious
@m00nrac00n
@m00nrac00n 2 года назад
Yea, she is literally POC...how out of touch can you be - okay, then go sew us some jeans in a clothing factory until you pass out so we can have "greatness". How does she even come up with a comparison like that ?! I- ...
@beigegecko
@beigegecko 2 года назад
You know there are deadlines, right? You have to release a product on time and it has to be good to meet expectations, sell and make profits so that a company or a person has resources to create more, meaning that somebody has to make a sacrifice in order to achieve that. This is literally how life works
@NilakshMalpotra
@NilakshMalpotra 2 года назад
@@beigegecko and who imposed those deadlines?? aren't those deadlines put in place because artists KNOW they can get away with this behavior, because they KNOW everyone else is doing it? Album releases take time, there's months many times years of time and effort gone into their conception.. are you telling me they couldn't accommodate for a little more time for the well being of their sound engineers? It's more to do with studio rental costs, and squeezing out their work force because they're not unionized. It's very similar to the 'crunch' game programmers experience, because of a similar lack of unionization.
@Greenhourglass
@Greenhourglass 2 года назад
@@beigegecko “deadlines” “products” “profits” literally everything you just said is a completely made up system not “how life works”
@bendykirby4828
@bendykirby4828 2 года назад
Sevdaliza’s whole post is basically like: “Some of you may die, but that is a sacrifice I am willing to make.”
@bird3646
@bird3646 2 года назад
On God
@fedeisonline5626
@fedeisonline5626 2 года назад
not sza, sevdaliza, sza just liked it. but still L take, L human beings
@pongo5271
@pongo5271 2 года назад
Literal cartoon villain shit and they don't even realize it.
@hiroe6350
@hiroe6350 2 года назад
that is correct. if you have ever done something meaningful you would understand. the album still sucks ass but thats not the point
@hiroe6350
@hiroe6350 2 года назад
same argument the americans made to fight in wwII btw
@NeonRadarMusic
@NeonRadarMusic 2 года назад
It's quite fascinating how many people read Steve Jobs' biography and decided that being an asshole was the way to go. Too many people romanticise the idea of suffering for glory or worse, making OTHER people suffer for YOUR glory.
@maka5585
@maka5585 2 года назад
We'd be living in the stone age if we didn't.
@Amquacktador
@Amquacktador 2 года назад
@@maka5585 You know that's not true.
@maka5585
@maka5585 2 года назад
@@Amquacktador you wouldnt be typing that, and we wouldnt be talking right now if it wasnt true
@Jonashlvrsn
@Jonashlvrsn 2 года назад
@@maka5585 To say Stone Age is hyperbolic
@maka5585
@maka5585 2 года назад
​@@Jonashlvrsn Obviously
@Elmoconvo
@Elmoconvo 2 года назад
"you dont get good art without FORCED LABOUR" is the most insane thing i've ever heard
@maka5585
@maka5585 2 года назад
wrong
@jinxed7915
@jinxed7915 2 года назад
@@maka5585 bruh are you just going to simp for the closest thing to slavery an employer can get away with on every goddamn comment?
@maka5585
@maka5585 2 года назад
@@jinxed7915 Yeah cus I’m an employer
@Dean-yy9ki
@Dean-yy9ki 2 года назад
@@maka5585 LMFAOO
@rebelpack948
@rebelpack948 2 года назад
Obviously you never worked in a job loke installing floor and wall tiles lol
@Grfn_nfrg
@Grfn_nfrg 2 года назад
Anthony’s reviews are able to come out so fast because he keeps his editors locked in cages.
@adichatterjee
@adichatterjee 2 года назад
TOP OF THE MORNINNG
@disrike2909
@disrike2909 2 года назад
LETS GET THIS SHIT
@vsauce4678
@vsauce4678 2 года назад
Obama moment
@ahmedtaha837
@ahmedtaha837 2 года назад
No cap
@chrispychicken9614
@chrispychicken9614 2 года назад
Don’t kink-shame him.
@adamboof6769
@adamboof6769 2 года назад
Bruh that sza take is straight up insane. Like, how the fuck
@talal8572
@talal8572 2 года назад
with a combination of being out of touch and generational wealth
@cheekybananaboy3361
@cheekybananaboy3361 2 года назад
@@talal8572 didnt she have to do sex work just to make a living?
@MasterOctagon
@MasterOctagon 2 года назад
@@cheekybananaboy3361 her parents are execs. I highly doubt it unless she was selling feet pics to get some pocket money
@bri1085
@bri1085 2 года назад
@@cheekybananaboy3361 father was a CNN executive producer and mother a exec at AT&T, sliver spoon stuff
@cheekybananaboy3361
@cheekybananaboy3361 2 года назад
@Dayco Guy i was literally just asking a question chill :/
@Blueberrycaprice
@Blueberrycaprice 2 года назад
Jesus Christ SZA really thinks humans are somehow incapable of making a shoe without factories of people working themselves to death?! And a lot of amazing albums and music with "off the grid" quality artistry have been made under non-abusive conditions. Just how low is her bar.
@julianluna8688
@julianluna8688 2 года назад
I unfortunately follow SZA on Instagram and almost every one of her story posts have to do with some type of victimizing of a group of people that are in no way victims. SZA is literally the type of person to post about endangered elephants yet absolutely do fucking nothing about it.. as well as the things she pretends to fight for and yet have no type of action to account for it 😂😂🥴 No wonder TDE is falling apart
@modarnwarfare2rull
@modarnwarfare2rull 2 года назад
​@Bronsexual Police Department Kendrick had slip ups too, remember that one time he got a white girl to rap m.A.A.D City out of all his songs on stage and then berated her in front of thousands for using the n-word ? Hopefully it was a one time thing because I've seen him be cool with entire crowds of white people rapping it without giving a fuck.
@da-p6814
@da-p6814 2 года назад
I mean, it's a bullshit point about art but regarding shoes and clothes in general, from a utility standpoint, there's a reason we get so many goods from China. It's kind of true that civilisation has always relied on essentially slave labor. The problem isn't that she pointed that out, the problem is that she implied it was justified.
@LPOnePiece30
@LPOnePiece30 2 года назад
@Bronsexual Police Department what were her comments?
@julianluna8688
@julianluna8688 2 года назад
@Bronsexual Police Department Agreeeeed
@Nickelicious7
@Nickelicious7 2 года назад
People need to stop fetishizing working for their heroes. They do the same thing with Elon and in the gaming industry, they’ll subject themselves to total indignities, humiliation, and forced labour under the illusion that they’re getting to work with a genius and that therefore it’ll all be worth it. That somehow this bad experience will look good on their resume. If you’re going to overextend yourself for a dream, make it your own dream, don’t kill yourself for these lunatics. That’s just the way I feel about it.
@thrpotatoasfgfejfidieiidkr7071
@thrpotatoasfgfejfidieiidkr7071 2 года назад
The gaming and animation industry are both pretty disgusting, as well as many others
@Bandstand
@Bandstand 2 года назад
Music industry is built off of so many talented people then 5 of those people get labeled genius for the work of hundreds. I’m over it. Fucking loonies…you hit the nail on the head
@yadsewnde8699
@yadsewnde8699 2 года назад
Louder for the ppl that won't listen. 100% this
@tubthungusbychumbungus
@tubthungusbychumbungus 2 года назад
Right people are stemming their justification for this shit as "oh you have to drop everything for kanye" like no legend or not, hes just a questionable guy. I wish people had the self respect to not sacrifice themselves for him, they're worth so much more.
@yunggoosbumps215
@yunggoosbumps215 2 года назад
You sound extremely entitled. That's great that you don't believe in working hard for opportunities to make a career for yourself. I'm sure that mindset has led you to live a very successful life working minimum wage and having these 100 likes be the most attention you've ever received.
@nothing8640
@nothing8640 2 года назад
There's nothing wrong with hard work but this delusion that success REQUIRES you and those around you to endure unbelievable suffering has to end. I can guarantee that three healthy 8 or 10 hour work days would be more productive for musicians (and other workers) than staying up for 30 hours straight.
@auberginedreams00
@auberginedreams00 2 года назад
As a musician I can tell you that I have to force myself to take breaks because I literally make my music worse at a certain point of exhaustion. When you’re mixing the same song all day it’s like when you say a word so many times that it just sounds like a noise. You need to take a break to refresh your ears and come back later or you’ll start making dumb decisions that will sound bad later when you’re in your right mind. We need to normalize letting people take breaks because not only is it morally right but it will make your work better in the long run.
@gilliamphipps7098
@gilliamphipps7098 2 года назад
Brilliantly put, nothing-penguin. Appreciate the take.
@jread5400
@jread5400 2 года назад
That's true. If anything requires you to be creative, then trying to push yourself until exhaustion will only make your work worse. There's been tonnes of studies showing this, I don't get why people feel the need to do it. I partly blame the whole 'grind' culture where gurus lie about working for 18 hours a day and make you feel like a pussy for not lol
@rickeybernard8156
@rickeybernard8156 2 года назад
You're right. I use to stay up 3 days during college with a full schedule. My grades and health improved by clearing a lot out.
@Ruinwyn
@Ruinwyn 2 года назад
This fetishizing of exhaustion and long hours is related to the idea that drugs make great and interesting art (it's pretty unlikely anyone is working 36 hours without something stronger than caffeine). It's this idea that you need to get into some altered state. If there is benefits from being in altered state, it is generating the first draft of whatever art you are creating. The hard work is always in the editing and finishing the art. That requires focus.
@tommaso6392
@tommaso6392 2 года назад
SZA is just straight up saying that she deserves to be richer than the working class.
@jens2049
@jens2049 2 года назад
Also very ironically sounds like pro slavery
@jamesmackes4531
@jamesmackes4531 2 года назад
Eat the rich
@aa-rondavis2914
@aa-rondavis2914 2 года назад
It bums me out because I love her music but…. Damn I didn’t know she was just a piece of shit lol
@e13kid
@e13kid 2 года назад
Class loyalty is a real thing.
@Nathancreatescontent
@Nathancreatescontent 2 года назад
@@aa-rondavis2914 she wrote a whole ass song about how she cheated on her partner lol
@JokerTheDank
@JokerTheDank 2 года назад
What's beautiful is that these "artists" cry and whine when the labels take 50% of their profits when the "artists" are doing all the work. Then they turn around and expect unpaid/underpayed engineers and mixers to just kill themselves in the name of their art. It's all the same, everyone is out for themselves
@maka8551
@maka8551 2 года назад
wrong
@nimrodery
@nimrodery 2 года назад
@@maka8551 There _are_ other words.
@maka8551
@maka8551 2 года назад
@@nimrodery Perhaps.
@ZodiacEntertainment2
@ZodiacEntertainment2 2 года назад
@@nimrodery Maybe they're a troll bot? who knows.
@kennys.3426
@kennys.3426 2 года назад
Everyone's getting exploited and pay is MIA...
@gustavolsson5787
@gustavolsson5787 2 года назад
The song ”30 hours” has gotten a new meaning
@suffermore1576
@suffermore1576 2 года назад
*o* *o* *f*
@corn_juice2195
@corn_juice2195 2 года назад
i would never listen to "30 hours" the same way again
@fduranthesee
@fduranthesee 2 года назад
Lmfao
@hva25
@hva25 2 года назад
But guys, Kanye still drove 30 hours
@itook75benadryls
@itook75benadryls 2 года назад
The producers died, thats why the outro is so long
@FiddleMiA
@FiddleMiA 2 года назад
Rich people being awful to average people is normal* and SZA telling on herself
@opa6995
@opa6995 2 года назад
Massive self report tf
@EASFromTheWest
@EASFromTheWest 2 года назад
it’s to stir drama and therefore publicity
@0326dp
@0326dp 2 года назад
Sza is just on that sigma mentality
@punkmusicmetal
@punkmusicmetal 2 года назад
@@0326dp 🤣🤣🤣
@justinfernandez2658
@justinfernandez2658 2 года назад
I mean I'm sure Kanye's producers are rich people themselves
@TitosTheSalty
@TitosTheSalty 2 года назад
Someone should tell SZA that "forced labour" is the definition of slavery. That would be a fast block......
@gatfatf
@gatfatf 2 года назад
SZA be like: the wails of the starving are the backbone of all my songs, thats why I dont pay my bassist on time
@briancollins1296
@briancollins1296 2 года назад
As off-base as Kanye's texts were, SZA looks even worse somehow ngl... Edit: Shit, never mind!
@cheekybananaboy3361
@cheekybananaboy3361 2 года назад
because we expect this from kanye at this point. dude brought out serial-rapist marilyn manson out on stage to chill with him for a donda listening party
@finismalorum9746
@finismalorum9746 2 года назад
@@cheekybananaboy3361 The marilyn Manson thing was never confirmed. Nice try.
@HarvenHaven
@HarvenHaven 2 года назад
@@finismalorum9746 wtf marilyn manson is literally on the album
@damsus1177
@damsus1177 2 года назад
@@finismalorum9746 …are you trolling?
@AkashKumar-zx2vy
@AkashKumar-zx2vy 2 года назад
@@finismalorum9746 i’m a kanye fan but wth😂
@flibbittygibbitt
@flibbittygibbitt 2 года назад
So when an artist is burnt out, they get support from fans & family, vacations, the world going against the industry for stress and everything in between but people working for that artist going through the same is a worthy sacrifice.
@berni1011
@berni1011 2 года назад
Engineers really need to unionise , fuck working more than the contract and getting fired for not overworking yourself, even if you work in somethinf you love you shouldn't be expected to work over time, and if you do it should be damn well paid by the hour and with a max limit per week.
@drewp.weiner5708
@drewp.weiner5708 2 года назад
Bootlicking ain’t just a political thing. As long as we still worship the rich and famous this kinda hypocrisy won’t go away.
@grilla4464
@grilla4464 2 года назад
@@berni1011 Workers in general need to unionize then, everyone is suffering like this to some extent
@shnpio
@shnpio 2 года назад
@@grilla4464 yes
@Frank-wr2nf
@Frank-wr2nf 2 года назад
People like the artists, they don’t like the labels, and people ascribe all quality to the name on the music, so they don’t know the producers. So there’s your reason
@BigGman1998
@BigGman1998 2 года назад
SZA's compelling argument would sound even better spoken from the headrest of a guillotine.
@jens2049
@jens2049 2 года назад
Damn lmao
@555tonyleon
@555tonyleon 2 года назад
relax
@getyournekoshere9824
@getyournekoshere9824 2 года назад
based. kill the rich
@karku3fan
@karku3fan 2 года назад
based, exploit the rich
@kaphizmey6229
@kaphizmey6229 2 года назад
i love how the first two replies are telling you to chill and the other two are saying “based”… and it’s those last replies that have more fucking likes lmao
@milamber319
@milamber319 2 года назад
You have to "sacrifice" to get a good product. absolutely agree. YOU, the artist, need to sacrifice for YOUR product. That means if you can't do it yourself YOU have to sacrifice YOUR cash to get someone else to do it. If they can't do it in within your unreasonable time frame YOU have to sacrifice YOUR deadlines. They are not the artist, YOU are and they do not have the passion for the project YOU do. You are the only one who should be sacrificing anything and not forcing others to do the sacrificing for you.
@klckvision
@klckvision 2 года назад
needs to be pinned ong
@milamber319
@milamber319 2 года назад
@@romanroyer7057 lol fixed
@livecarsonreaction
@livecarsonreaction 2 года назад
Eeeyup. But the gospel of work ethic is like the word of God, in that it's been passed through so many hands and misinterpreted for so many wrong reasons that we now have people like SZA dropping rancid takes like this unironically. Busting your ass for your own goals, that's noble. Busting your ass for someone else's profit and ego while you make pennies on the dollar, and you're treated like gum on the bottom of their shoe? That's exploitation.
@ryanreis8814
@ryanreis8814 2 года назад
I was high reading that screaming you every time I read
@fawnalove7569
@fawnalove7569 2 года назад
SZAs unhinged take here makes me so much more intrigued about how she really is after all her weird nonsensical lies 😭 lmao
@squeallymaniac
@squeallymaniac 2 года назад
RIGHT LOL
@menelikiii5004
@menelikiii5004 2 года назад
What weird nonsensical lies, Im out of the loop.
@andrejristic4956
@andrejristic4956 2 года назад
@@menelikiii5004 same
@punani_slayer4209
@punani_slayer4209 2 года назад
@@andrejristic4956 same
@omu6740
@omu6740 2 года назад
@@menelikiii5004 there’s a youtube video that shines light on sza lying about the smallest things about herself and her life. i watched it recently and it was kind of funny tbh but i’m pretty sure that’s what the original comment was referencing
@DerangedManiac12
@DerangedManiac12 2 года назад
Sevdaliza and SZA really out here saying "yuo dont like capitalism yet you exist iphone venezuela bottom text"
@yue_river
@yue_river 2 года назад
this is a great comparison honestly. they seem so out of touch with reality that they can’t even recognize what they’re implying /or/ simply can’t comprehend how terrible it is.
@m00nrac00n
@m00nrac00n 2 года назад
Way to kill your reputation with a stupid retweet. Dont these ppl have PR Teams ? Neither of them is "extremely" successful - and they still have an inflated ego like that, who are they to talk ? Sad.
@jasper3706
@jasper3706 2 года назад
@@m00nrac00n Honestly I feel like "If kids had to be enslaved to make my shoes then I want those kids to be enslaved" is a pretty common sentiment (especially seeing this comment section, holy shit)
@m00nrac00n
@m00nrac00n 2 года назад
@@jasper3706 Yea, very that. I'd like to see them make those "shoes" themselves by producing on their own while being under constant pressure. The production literally makes the music possible - Lets be real, Sevdaliza's music without production would just be a woman saying random phrases in a middle eastern accent. Also: Two POC artists using slavery argumentation... Makes me lose hope and braincells.
@guppy719
@guppy719 2 года назад
@@m00nrac00n All this POC and slavery stuff makes me think they only teach you a very narrow view of slavery in school.
@travis8106
@travis8106 2 года назад
It takes a lot for me to actually stop listening to an artist due to who they are, but just what Sza said, the fact that her art is potentially slave driving the workers behind the scenes, and her whole attitude is "well its a sacrifice for my art" and it feeds her ego. I just don't think I could listen to her after that.
@aa-rondavis2914
@aa-rondavis2914 2 года назад
I’m in the same boat… but don’t worry! At this pace we won’t ever hear another SZA song Bc she dropped like three singles then just went back to radio silence
@cheesecakelasagna
@cheesecakelasagna 2 года назад
I was just about to check her stuff out of the blue before this.
@cliiiiiq8787
@cliiiiiq8787 2 года назад
@@cheesecakelasagna Yall are aware sza didnt..write that...right??
@hueydavisx5187
@hueydavisx5187 2 года назад
@@cliiiiiq8787 Fr! Like everyone in the comments rn just went straigh to the comment section and collectively decide that SZA was the one who wrote it rather than actually listening to the video. So weird man
@cliiiiiq8787
@cliiiiiq8787 2 года назад
@Garmai Segrain She had no idea it was in the context of kanyes situation , that mindset is understandable
@brostyle1036
@brostyle1036 2 года назад
Kanye literally said “You want forgiveness? Get religion”
@cthulhutube3839
@cthulhutube3839 2 года назад
Line for line straight from spiderman 3
@ik-ki
@ik-ki 2 года назад
Kinda expected kanye's behavior. Also, we don't know what's more. However, what freaked me out the most was SZA's thought process. She's acting like she's a general of the whole army and the sacrifice has to be made under her decision. While I am fond of the stupidity to say such dumb things on social media, gotta watch fragging, girl.
@SomniaCE
@SomniaCE 2 года назад
The fucked up part is that she benefits the most from that. In 20 years no one but her will get credit for her work. Its HER name on the product, not any of the people she drove into the ground. That's what's fucked up about it and they're only willing to say it out loud here because its for art rather than some shit like retail
@adichatterjee
@adichatterjee 2 года назад
TOP OF THE MORNING
@MrCHI2cool
@MrCHI2cool 2 года назад
You can't fathom his "love dude. Lock yourself in a room doing 5 beats a day for 3 summers."
@simuna6921
@simuna6921 2 года назад
@@MrCHI2cool I resorted to these numbers
@yesidisagree6109
@yesidisagree6109 2 года назад
SZA giving kanye another reason of why slavery was a choice
@morningowl43
@morningowl43 2 года назад
Everyone’s talking about Kanye and his “go find god” comment…meanwhile I’m over here freaking tf out about SZA, that’s such a disturbing thought process
@layicorn
@layicorn 2 года назад
ngl the "go find god" was kinda gangster
@jasper3706
@jasper3706 2 года назад
"Hey man, these shoes? Kids were enslaved to make these shoes. Isn't that awesome?! You gotta make sacrifices to make people happy (specifically me, a rich famous person!)"
@Iamnotimaginative
@Iamnotimaginative 2 года назад
Yeah it's pretty disgusting. Not shocking from a kid of two executives unfortunately
@kobinho1917
@kobinho1917 2 года назад
Yeh that was much worse
@MYNAMACHEF
@MYNAMACHEF 2 года назад
SZA got that sweatshop owner mindset
@guzz_hoiss
@guzz_hoiss 2 года назад
Fun fact: Da Vinci never really finished mona lisa. It was one of his late-life labors in which he was already a known and wealthy artist of italy. He spent the time he needed, the resources he needed, and even though he never reached the end of the line, it's still one of the greatest pieces of all history. For all inspiring artist ou there, take your time and don't starve. Respect yourselves and things will come out clearly.
@allanfiesta
@allanfiesta 2 года назад
Someone pin this
@E1337N3SS
@E1337N3SS 2 года назад
The difference is that Da Vinci was a genius. These people just think they are
@maka5585
@maka5585 2 года назад
wrong
@maka5585
@maka5585 2 года назад
@@E1337N3SS wrong
@guzz_hoiss
@guzz_hoiss 2 года назад
@@maka5585 well, why?
@6oundStudio
@6oundStudio 2 года назад
as a working producer I can assure you that nothing good comes from a 33 hour work session. This isn't like making same thing over and over, you are required to constantly think and come up with ideas, test them and decide wheter they work or not. there are some processes which are pretty tedious, like editing and stuff like that, but even then, your best results will be the ones that you've tried, checked and approved rationally. Mixing, production and other processes are forms of art just as much as the music itself, so crunching just makes the result worse
@b8IIin
@b8IIin 2 года назад
I don't wanna hear any social commentary from artists like this if they can't even treat their own colleagues like human beings. Especially that Sevdaliza/SZA post, which is essentially gaslighting people into thinking that working under exploitative and overwhelming conditions is just part of "off the grid quality" whatever tf that means
@berni1011
@berni1011 2 года назад
Working more than 10 hours a day is unsustainable, hell I'd even say 8 hours is already the limit, I fucking hate hustle/grind culture, even if I work in something I love and I am passionate about I shouldn't be expected to work overtime, if I do it, good. If I don't, good.
@trentvalentine9
@trentvalentine9 2 года назад
@@berni1011 the average white collar worker is only productive 2-4 hours per day. No one needs to work more than that, regardless of field. There's no need for society to be this way, except that evil won
@nage9465
@nage9465 2 года назад
"Unpopular opinion: it's okay and necessary to treat your workers like shit to get what u want" lol
@fredleeland2464
@fredleeland2464 2 года назад
Yet Steve Jobs is seen as an icon
@GoldenBoyDims
@GoldenBoyDims 2 года назад
Bezos
@davidvillamonte2007
@davidvillamonte2007 2 года назад
Kubrick
@nikhilpranav6915
@nikhilpranav6915 2 года назад
The dude was 2 hours late, Kanye was in the right, he did what any person with an employee would have done.
@kidnamedfinger2840
@kidnamedfinger2840 2 года назад
Sigma grindset
@ardan981
@ardan981 2 года назад
Many producers and mixing engineers I know agree that even 1 hour straight is more than enough because your ears get used to the problems with the mix... 33 hours makes the music come out worse not just because of your own deteriorating health but because of the deterioration of your ears
@bijmetho6502
@bijmetho6502 2 года назад
This is why i like frank ocean. He just taking his sweet own time releasing his album, no deadline or anything, and its definetely gonna BANG.
@user-nn7im9ev7r
@user-nn7im9ev7r 2 года назад
Frank Ocean makes Dogshit Music tho.
@scarycooper
@scarycooper 2 года назад
@@user-nn7im9ev7r cap
@mountsinai_
@mountsinai_ 2 года назад
@@user-nn7im9ev7r cap
@policies8534
@policies8534 2 года назад
@@user-nn7im9ev7r pac
@TR13400
@TR13400 2 года назад
@@user-nn7im9ev7r cap
@Zmargo702
@Zmargo702 2 года назад
“Good morning Lets work” “You’re fired. Go home”
@VioletPrism
@VioletPrism 2 года назад
Hahaaa
@squeallymaniac
@squeallymaniac 2 года назад
2 hours apart ... the Ye album cover comes to mind
@krspykreame1
@krspykreame1 2 года назад
He did tell him to come back after he finds God 🤣
@symich5836
@symich5836 2 года назад
@@squeallymaniac yes ‘mind’ dummy
@officialFredDurstfanclub
@officialFredDurstfanclub 2 года назад
Well I quit, y’all welcome
@JakeRanney
@JakeRanney 2 года назад
"Some of you may die. But that is a sacrifice I am willing to make." -Sevdaliza and SZA
@HostileHairline
@HostileHairline 2 года назад
More like SZA
@JakeRanney
@JakeRanney 2 года назад
@@HostileHairline You are right, I'll edit my comment
@cameroncampbell1638
@cameroncampbell1638 2 года назад
W comment.
@Azazelislost
@Azazelislost 2 года назад
She is female thanos
@rickeybernard8156
@rickeybernard8156 2 года назад
Is that...is that a Lord Farquad quote? Shrek had some good quotables.
@lucifercallum952
@lucifercallum952 2 года назад
This feels parallel to the "crunch" culture of game development. This fierce rush to meet deadlines or put things out quickly coming at the cost of peoples well being will ultimately result in diminishing returns. To rush the process of art is to kill part of the soul that is required to make said art enjoyable. Bands like BTBAM take years between releases because making such dense amazing music requires time and patience to make right. I feel this shows mainstream music has lost the plot and is more focused on music as a commodity rather than a piece of art.
@maka5585
@maka5585 2 года назад
wrong
@annanguessan-ble6488
@annanguessan-ble6488 2 года назад
@@maka5585 how?
@jimbo5276
@jimbo5276 2 года назад
@@annanguessan-ble6488 it's a troll don't talk to it
@maka5585
@maka5585 2 года назад
@@annanguessan-ble6488 game developers are forced, this isn’t similar at all to what happened here
@azabass
@azabass 2 года назад
@@maka5585 i mean as a fellow game dev i would walk out of my job if this was forced upon me : D (i have)
@JustAJauneArc
@JustAJauneArc 2 года назад
"...the guy being two hours late after 9am, I'm not feeling too sympathetic..." 2:48 Dude. Shit happens. If the guy has by no means made a habit out of it and he's clearly super repentful about it, axe'ing him is far too harsh. Call me a bleeding heart but everyone makes mistakes, and we're all human. It's Ye's call for sure, but as an assistant manager with my own small band of people it feels intensely out of line from my own perspective.
@oWoUwUoWoUwU
@oWoUwUoWoUwU 2 года назад
Gotta agree. Ppl slip up, and it seemed like a first time mistake, which means you can write them up or the equivalent of that, but not really grounds for firing someone imo
@maka5585
@maka5585 2 года назад
wrong
@THRDNL
@THRDNL 2 года назад
@@maka5585 coming from another kanye stan, tf is the point of spamming that on every comment you don’t agree with lmfao
@JustAJauneArc
@JustAJauneArc 2 года назад
@@maka5585 glad you aren't a manager at least
@maka5585
@maka5585 2 года назад
@@JustAJauneArc I am. I've fired people for less than being 2 hours late.
@jamescarter6468
@jamescarter6468 2 года назад
Just my two nickels in this thing right?: The video game industry is going through this EXACT thing right now and while people are co-signing Kayne and his bs, people are not some expendable resource. Have you ever heard about the horror stories of crunch? Developers and staff working till they can't anymore and then have their jobs threatened? It's not okay. The fact that we eat up all of these products and only care when it makes news is not okay. It's amazing how some people at the top are so disconnected when they're constantly in and out of rehab for similar shit. No empathy for the little guy ya know? It's whatever though, most people aren't even ready for that conversation
@ilovecody7514
@ilovecody7514 2 года назад
THANK YOU!!! Dense motherfuckers in the comments really trying to defend this shit. As if just because it's an "opportunity" Kanye or any other celeb can just treat any kind of way.
@bbybuttercup
@bbybuttercup 2 года назад
I was just thinking about what happened to Telltale today too
@auguste573
@auguste573 2 года назад
But Kanye is staying up with them... Kanye is not a game company that hires people and then himself goes to bed, Kanye is known for sleeping like 2 hours, also this was only during the Mercedes Benz renting out listening party 1 month to finish the album type thing.
@gmchessplay9043
@gmchessplay9043 2 года назад
Where in nature do you see empathy? The fact that you have a phone with WiFi puts you at an advantage over billions of people. Where’s your empathy for them? Give someone your phone since you can buy another. It’s a strange thing to want empathy from others even when our own circle of empathy is tiny.
@GlitzPixie
@GlitzPixie 2 года назад
this happens in every industry, it's capitalism babey 😎
@AntiVectorTV
@AntiVectorTV 2 года назад
"Some of you may die, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make" - SZA
@rileylol7045
@rileylol7045 2 года назад
😳
@HODMinistry
@HODMinistry 2 года назад
🤣
@nutterinherbutter5080
@nutterinherbutter5080 2 года назад
Oh naw 💀💀💀
@user-sl1ml
@user-sl1ml 2 года назад
honestly kanye should be honored by the engineers lateness that he would even show up to that fake shit
@Number1FanProductions
@Number1FanProductions 2 года назад
Also how they said they’d be there in 5 minutes but 5 hours later they’d be there in 5 minutes
@cassiusineuros
@cassiusineuros 2 года назад
kanye went nuts, went apeshit
@scumfuckflami
@scumfuckflami 2 года назад
The engineer’s presence is a present. Kanye can kiss his ass.
@blindfaith2934
@blindfaith2934 2 года назад
btw they lightly scratched your corolla
@joelman1989
@joelman1989 2 года назад
lol underrated comment
@AnimeProfilePicture
@AnimeProfilePicture 2 года назад
That Sza quote is how you get woman who are forced into uncomfortable sexual situations just to have a career in the first place. They have to "sacrifice" and get off the "grind" to get ahead
@straightXjessedge
@straightXjessedge 2 года назад
Sevdaliza and SZA be like "actually, wage slavery is pretty based."
@m00nrac00n
@m00nrac00n 2 года назад
Its so dishearting to see when POC celebrities forget their roots because of success and act all high and mighty "I made it cuz I worked hard - so you have to aswell, no excuses." such bs.
@JayCooperX
@JayCooperX 2 года назад
​@@m00nrac00n w̶o̶r̶k̶e̶d̶ ̶h̶a̶r̶d̶ forced people to sacrifice for me
@933Bane
@933Bane 2 года назад
@@m00nrac00n What do you mean, lmao, SZA grew up with money and privileged, this is a direct product of that
@rickeybernard8156
@rickeybernard8156 2 года назад
@@m00nrac00n some black people here don't come from slavery. They just immigrated here. There are two different viewpoints of black Americans.
@menelikiii5004
@menelikiii5004 2 года назад
@@rickeybernard8156 If you think this divide is because of heritage youre gonna be sadly disappointed plenty of African Americans, who buy into this rhetoric.
@dylanvickers7953
@dylanvickers7953 2 года назад
No one is mad if Kanye wants to lock himself in his room and make 5 beats a day and “dig his own grave to feel alive” the problem is he is standing over a slew of people yelling “dig, motherfuckers! Dig or get lost!” Which is a different thing. You’re not one of the kid’s in Holes, SZA, you’re the warden.
@PaoloState
@PaoloState 2 года назад
He is not forcing anyone
@gas-station-sushi
@gas-station-sushi 2 года назад
@@PaoloState Really now? After shouting at Chance in the studio, not paying to the Church Sunday Service, and being an egotistical asshole to most people he knows, he won't force engineers to crunch? LMAO
@stevescott3735
@stevescott3735 2 года назад
@@gas-station-sushi do you think Chance will be ok?
@gas-station-sushi
@gas-station-sushi 2 года назад
@@stevescott3735 prolly yeah, but still, from what I heard he just went to check up on Ye because he was worried abt him
@roarsarch201
@roarsarch201 2 года назад
Lmao, another assumption. He ain't forcing shit lol
@TheBaawws
@TheBaawws 2 года назад
This is like when Prince did his crazy recording sessions: he went on for 48-72 hours at a time and had engineers switching with eachother after they'd done 16 hours each...but at least he knew his people couldn't keep up the same pace
@GamingCentralTV1
@GamingCentralTV1 2 года назад
Must've been a lot of coke residue on the mic
@alexwebmch
@alexwebmch 2 года назад
Thanks Anthony for the measured response. There's nothing wrong with working beyond the usual 9 - 5 on a project of this magnitude, but mixing for 30 hours straight is very unlikely to lead to great results. I'm not a world class mix engineer, but in my experience a good night's sleep allows you to come back with fresh ears and make some instant improvements.
@Attillion
@Attillion 2 года назад
Gonna use “go find god” in every conversation going forward
@jodajoda2863
@jodajoda2863 2 года назад
Stop commenting Go find God Come back after you found God
@Fred72355
@Fred72355 2 года назад
@@sarang8585 stop replying to replies Find God Come back after you found God
@somebonehead
@somebonehead 2 года назад
Fwd from another text: I found God guys! Yesterday after replying to replies of replies, I got jittery, lost my sight and then fainted to the ground. RU-vid came and all but I'm told i fought not to have my comments deleted lol Anyway I'm back. Getting ready now
@fduranthesee
@fduranthesee 2 года назад
@Nostalgia Jones stop sending laughing-crying emojis Find god Comeback after you find god
@squeallymaniac
@squeallymaniac 2 года назад
Me: God isn't real.
@UnterThane
@UnterThane 2 года назад
Imagine you pass out after a 33 hour work shift and when you up Kanye messages you to put Globgalob on a track
@m00nrac00n
@m00nrac00n 2 года назад
I'd go insane. The Clownery.
@yakovhadash
@yakovhadash 2 года назад
at that point the message probably comes from Globgalob himself
@pagapollo5601
@pagapollo5601 2 года назад
the glob was a great choice tbf
@obrey__
@obrey__ 2 года назад
“It’s easier to rationalize the perversion of it [the messed up state of reality] than work against it” the type of sentence to spark self awareness and change. I used to be so wrong about Mellon
@phoque022
@phoque022 2 года назад
Sza basically said what society is at this current point in time, except she actually endorsed it? She can't be serious right?
@chrilborn4138
@chrilborn4138 2 года назад
"Damn 33 hours and those keyboards were still clipping on Pure Souls??"- Anthony probably
@maka5585
@maka5585 2 года назад
wrong
@gabrielalfaia8154
@gabrielalfaia8154 2 года назад
The fact that Kanye's first songs were about being broke while pursuing your dreams and the troubles of the working class is peak irony.
@Thirtle
@Thirtle 2 года назад
"you were supposed to destroy the sith not join them"
@fredleeland2464
@fredleeland2464 2 года назад
Most of Kanye's music had a team of writers that didn't get credit I'm a fan of his but he, like most rappers at the level he was at, make pop music to sell...not to educate or speak real truth
@auberginedreams00
@auberginedreams00 2 года назад
It’s sad to see as a fan of him from the beginning. The fame/money changed him even more than it does most people.
@rayfordreed9304
@rayfordreed9304 2 года назад
Did you want him to still be rapping about financial struggles when he's a billionaire?
@sgtcreasegrease
@sgtcreasegrease 2 года назад
@@rayfordreed9304 That wasn't the point of his comment, forehead.
@piter97hjap
@piter97hjap 2 года назад
I work on the film industry and Kanye's cut throat response is pretty common as well
@maka8551
@maka8551 2 года назад
People in the comments are comparing their job as a cashier to working with one of the biggest artists on the planet lol
@joshuabrown6256
@joshuabrown6256 2 года назад
As a working engineer/ producer. This needs to be talked about more in the industry. Getting ripped off can absolutely make your passion feel not worth it. It’s also essential for the engineer and producer to have time for breaks, it allows for a creative break so you can come back with a newer perspective and newer ideas. Grinding them to death only makes the product worse.
@JimPea
@JimPea 2 года назад
"The guy being two hours late, I'm not feeling too sympathetic" Anthony then proceeds to explain how working long hours and not getting rest can have a detrimental effect on your health and ability to give your best work. I guess what I'm saying is, dude probably really needed that sleep.
@IvanSal778
@IvanSal778 2 года назад
Fr people are not putting the two text together if a guy in a similar position worked till he fainted then that guy probably did an ungodly shift too and not waking up at 7:30 makes sense
@toddanator4313
@toddanator4313 2 года назад
Yeah, my theory is that he straight up just slept through 3 and a half hours of his alarm ringing. When you’re absolutely exhausted, your body sometimes just refuses to wake up until you’ve had that sleep.
@yadsewnde8699
@yadsewnde8699 2 года назад
Well said. If they doing 30 hour days and hot to be there at 9 something gotta give.
@N3kras
@N3kras 2 года назад
I actually didn't put this together until this comment. So s/o to u2 for changing my opinion
@Falxifer95
@Falxifer95 2 года назад
Wouldn't be the first time he plays good cop for Kanye.
@TheSkaOreo
@TheSkaOreo 2 года назад
We’ve romanticized this idea that if you work hard, agonizing, hours, it’ll all be worth it in the end and you’ll be making dough. Except it’s largely bullshit and all you’re really is making the guy above you richer.
@hecticbeatzz5628
@hecticbeatzz5628 2 года назад
Nope working hard is worth it in the end. Certainly not in your McDonald’s minimum job. But whether you work hard let it be sports or music or anything it does payoff. An elite work ethic always bests talent or intelligence.
@TheSkaOreo
@TheSkaOreo 2 года назад
@@hecticbeatzz5628 like Nah? Because what constitutes as "working hard?" Let me put it this way: there's--how many?--like a thousand players in the NFL, out of millions of others who are hoping to play at a pro-level. Are we sayin that those people who don't make "just didn't work hard enough?" Of course not. There's no guarantee that if you do back-breaking work that you'll be rewarded with wealth and success. Because the numbers are against you from the start. Especially in sports where luck and genetics are just as important as hard work The point is "not" people should not work hard, it's that we've perverse the meaning of hard work to justify working long hours for low pay and for rich people to exploit the poor with promises and fairy tales. And with more and more studies showing the dangers of overwork, there's no real reason to abide by that any more. If it's something that makes you happy, then do what you can while also minding your mental health. But if it's for the sake of some suit than nah? You shouldn't be doing hard work for the sake of someone else's vision. treat a 9-5 like a 9-5...you do the work that you're contracted for, and that's it. Unless they're going to pay you more, there's no reason not to be mercenary about it.
@TheSkaOreo
@TheSkaOreo 2 года назад
As an aside..knowing that a large number of wealthy people made it not because "they worked hard" but because they either came from wealthy family, had strong connections, or just was at the right place at the right time, puts a hard damper on our societies obsession with work. Add that studies show that while people are working longer hours, that it'snot translating to higher pay, and only recently have seen a slight uptick among the middle class. But I can go into a whole thing of how choices stemming way back to Reagan has purposelly made it so that people's wealth was not increasing at the degree of business owners like it was post WW2
@maka5585
@maka5585 2 года назад
wrong
@TheSkaOreo
@TheSkaOreo 2 года назад
@@maka5585 nah
@chuckledell4859
@chuckledell4859 2 года назад
One of my favorite stories is that of John Lennon’s vocals on Twist and Shout. The Beatles only ever recorded two takes of that song because the vocal performance was so intense for Lennon that he was barely able to speak for days afterwards and had to drink lots of milk just to sooth the pain. That was Lennon suffering for HIS music on HIS OWN decision. He wasn’t forced to do that, nor did he force anyone else into anything that was painful for them. I admire stories of when so much effort and dedication is put into music and seeing the incredible result. But not when that effort is forced. In my opinion, that is so exactly the opposite of what music should be.
@alexblack4145
@alexblack4145 2 года назад
I’m sure the Beatles did their fair share of overworking their vast array of underlings. Like ye, Lennon was a creative genius, but he had more than his share of issues as well. He was a very abusive person most of his life, I’ll say that much.
@victorpetrescu6586
@victorpetrescu6586 2 года назад
@@alexblack4145 people often live very different lives professionally and personally. Conflating the two is a dangerous game and just assuming someone must be abusing their coworkers to achieve success.
@SirArthurTheGreat
@SirArthurTheGreat 2 года назад
Yeah it was just his children and wives who had to suffer at his fists
@alexblack4145
@alexblack4145 2 года назад
@@victorpetrescu6586 not saying it’s the reason for his success at all I’m just saying there’s ample footage of Lennon tearing the studio engineers and George Martin and co producing apart so he’s not a good example. I brought up the abuse in his personal life just to further the point of this being a stupid ass comparison
@alexblack4145
@alexblack4145 2 года назад
Btw I’m a massive fan of the fabs and ye but my point is it would be more appropriate to liken the two than to put Lennon on pedestal in this situation
@mariusdragoe2888
@mariusdragoe2888 2 года назад
The reason we don't see Cal anymore is because Anthony is keeping that sweet boy locked in the basement working on his videos!
@clarkgholson1028
@clarkgholson1028 2 года назад
Literally just hire another engineer or studio tech or two or 5 or how many ever you need and rotate them out. Why would anyone even want someone in the studio with fatigued ears trying to mix or record you’r album
@jasper3706
@jasper3706 2 года назад
But then you wouldn't get to have a power trip and that's not fun!
@Substantial-hf1rm
@Substantial-hf1rm 2 года назад
@@jasper3706 "No one man should have all that power"
@auberginedreams00
@auberginedreams00 2 года назад
Fr in my experience I need to refresh my ears at a certain point or I can’t accurately mix a song not matter how hard or long I work on it.
@evsanger
@evsanger 2 года назад
Half the reason these industry albums suck has to do with exactly what you just said
@boyananakiev4896
@boyananakiev4896 2 года назад
This is true but it's also true that 10 people mixing the same thing can have disastrous results. It's not like you can just swap out 1 producer for another or 1 mixing engineer for another, you'll definitely get varied results and at best it's going to be a very complicated process where they'd know how to work with eachother very well.
@hamzasaid3368
@hamzasaid3368 2 года назад
Kanye getting into a car accident 20 years ago due to him overworking himself must have slipped his mind.
@coolguy2418
@coolguy2418 2 года назад
He probably credits it with his creativity and demands everyone crash like him
@ubelsimp
@ubelsimp 2 года назад
@@coolguy2418 honestly you’re probably right
@bri1085
@bri1085 2 года назад
The sad thing about that accident is the actual victim wasn't compensated if I remember correctly. Leaving the man without broken legs and a totalled car while unable to work
@Bladius_
@Bladius_ 2 года назад
People, especially older people, love glorifying harmful things that happened to them. "Oh I almost died doing this" "I used to get hit much harder than you did". They're incapable of saying "damn, maybe it doesn't have to be like this" they just wear it as a fucked badge of honour. I totally see this happening here too; "I nearly died for my music, you need to do that too or you can get out". Happens in plenty of industries, you better be willing to give up your own health, or they'll find someone who will.
@yrudonking
@yrudonking 2 года назад
To me it sounds like Knaye is mad because the person was late and a good amount of time went by without any response. I dont know what kind of arrangement they had but If im employing people to help me while under lots of pressure and they are late Id be upset. Yea he comes off insensitive but in the moment he was probably mad.
@pantzforhire
@pantzforhire 2 года назад
kanye: “i am a strict boss who will turn the other cheek when my engineer works himself into passing out” SZA: “sweat shops are actually good”
@elegantilk
@elegantilk 2 года назад
I remember Akon telling the story that Eminem was working on his music for several hours a day, and has since then applied that to himself because he realized that burning yourself out, working in the studio day and night is nonsensical.
@gas-station-sushi
@gas-station-sushi 2 года назад
People who complain abt the first guy probably never slept 2-3 hours a day for weeks. When you sleep that little, NO amount of alarms and shouting will wake you up and get you going. Your body after a threshold cannot work anymore and NEEDS that sleep, your body cares more abt having sleep and being able to keep going than made-up job schedules
@Thirtle
@Thirtle 2 года назад
Stans will always defend their favourite artist no matter what they do
@evsanger
@evsanger 2 года назад
Accurate
@rickeybernard8156
@rickeybernard8156 2 года назад
I know the feeling and you are 1000 percent right.
@rickeybernard8156
@rickeybernard8156 2 года назад
@@Thirtle stans are in every industry unfortunately.
@hunson3396
@hunson3396 2 года назад
This is a pretty big conclusion to jump too that this guy was getting 2-3 hrs of sleep for weeks
@dylanvickers7953
@dylanvickers7953 2 года назад
This seems like basically exactly how tech CEO’s act.
@Braindead154
@Braindead154 2 года назад
Nope, it's a completely different world. Competent Software Engineers are headhunted weekly and tech companies know that work/life balance keeps employees around.
@m.rizal.s5625
@m.rizal.s5625 2 года назад
more like financial bros though
@alexcatch2436
@alexcatch2436 2 года назад
You must be working at the wrong companies
@chrisbduck1938
@chrisbduck1938 2 года назад
Or animators or game designers with "crunch time". Sometimes there's going to be a lot of work when deadlines are comming up but it's not something to be proud of. Overworking your employees doesn't produce better work quality of work. Who tf thinks working 33 hours straight and going blind is going to produce better work than just paying for more employees and giving them more time.
@peterbadami4872
@peterbadami4872 2 года назад
Well Kanye did say "I'm Steve Jobs!" Haha
@DNAshurii
@DNAshurii 2 года назад
I feel so awful for the producers of this album, and for any producer in general that has had to work in conditions like this. They are at the core of what brings the music to life and give it the colour and characteristics for us to critique and enjoy the music as we do - it’s so overlooked and it pisses me off. They deserve better recognition, working conditions and pay for everything they do. There would be no music industry and high quality music without these guys - we as both musicians and music lovers owe everything to producers.
@strangerofthe2067
@strangerofthe2067 2 года назад
Somewhere right now is a McDonalds manager that takes his or her job waaaaaay too seriously and is adopting this mindset right now to push their employees to make the best burgers they can make and to fix the damn McFlurry machine.
@jordanestes1997
@jordanestes1997 2 года назад
Idk if that flurry machines actually ever going to be broken. They'll tell you it is though
@bejtulahsadiku6093
@bejtulahsadiku6093 2 года назад
Top of the morning Top of the morning Top of the morning Top of the morning Top of the morning Top of the morning Top of the morning
@tuananhx3
@tuananhx3 2 года назад
Lets get this shit
@TheBUGGIEDUDE
@TheBUGGIEDUDE 2 года назад
Melon, you're videoes have been really good lately, you seem very happy and if you ever read this I just wanted you to know that you're videoes are a bright spot in a lot of people's days
@zbsfm
@zbsfm 2 года назад
I agree and I'm glad you wrote this, the audio and visuals have been great too. We love you melon boy
@stevescott3735
@stevescott3735 2 года назад
That’s because Melon found god
@Frank1e.b0i
@Frank1e.b0i 2 года назад
It's certainly a bright spot in my day ❤️
@TheLily97232
@TheLily97232 2 года назад
Here is some tea for some of those people like SZA : we don't need four collections of clothes each year, we don't need a whole album every year, we don't need constant new music either. We need QUALITY even if it takes time to build. But deep down what they want is just the fame and money behind each production
@GG-lr3gv
@GG-lr3gv 2 года назад
It’s quite a feat to work a 33 hour day considering Earth’s days are generally only 24 hours in length
@shidomohamoud6769
@shidomohamoud6769 2 года назад
33 hours straight man not 33 in a single day
@TheMattmatic
@TheMattmatic 2 года назад
We all know Kanyes studio isn't located on planet Earth.
@hellothere7752
@hellothere7752 2 года назад
I’ve never even thought about how stressful it must be to know a celebrity can decide to fire you whenever they want, I’m not even just talking about the Kanye situation but also engineers that work for even less experienced or mature artists, the person in charge is more determined by fame than experience managing people
@thechazz8080
@thechazz8080 2 года назад
I guess, but at the same time it’s like you kind of have to know what you are getting yourself into Some people just work excessive and long hours, and on top of that working with someone thats kind of just an A tier producer At the end of the day, I mean at least maybe Kanye let them come back after finding god which more than I can say for some jobs that just let you go
@selanryn5849
@selanryn5849 2 года назад
You ever work in a restaurant? Cuz you pretty much just described working in a restaurant.
@ves138
@ves138 2 года назад
Thats jusg america tho. In Europe your boss has to let u know 2-3 months in advance ghat you're getring fired so you have time to fi d a new job in the meanwhile. Getting fired on spot is illegal. And if the boss decides to fire you he has to go throuvh a lot of paperwork bullshit to justify his decision
@maka5585
@maka5585 2 года назад
@@ves138 wrong
@maka5585
@maka5585 2 года назад
wrong
@343.43
@343.43 2 года назад
SZA acting like Kanye had NO choice in recording/releasing his album the way he did. All that drama he stirs up by having his releases be so hectic and unpredictable is just marketing, it has nothing to do with the artistic statements he's making. SZA should know its possible to have a quality and successful album that was worked on over a reasonable amount of time, its absurd. Kanye just knows he has that kind of power over people so he can bend and twist them to whatever end he wants to 'shock the world' with. Get real
@hitomukawakami7124
@hitomukawakami7124 2 года назад
As someone who has stayed up for over 30 hours at a time I can definitely confirm it’s not the strongest strategy for maximizing efficiency.
@adichatterjee
@adichatterjee 2 года назад
TOP OF THE MORNING LETS GET THIS SHIT
@diegocorral8787
@diegocorral8787 2 года назад
GIVE Me that, BIITCH
@notforsale9488
@notforsale9488 2 года назад
@@diegocorral8787 but sir
@thegermaniclanguagebranch1117
@thegermaniclanguagebranch1117 2 года назад
I’m gonna get ratioed but genuinely a better song thannoff the grid
@notforsale9488
@notforsale9488 2 года назад
@@thegermaniclanguagebranch1117 ratio
@jasper3706
@jasper3706 2 года назад
Lots of people in this comments section need to consider hiring a dominatrix cause they're giving off serious "I like being abused by people in a position of power over me" energy
@maka5585
@maka5585 2 года назад
wrong
@Will-bn9km
@Will-bn9km 2 года назад
Everyone already lowkey being exploited by the government right now tho. Ain't mean to sound corny but Pac said, it ain't about you getting exploited its how long you allow yourself to be. Ye engineers need to check themselves they know how Kanye is, and with SZA and that Sadavelli girl with this post, they should do the same.
@CTFXCarlos
@CTFXCarlos 2 года назад
Nah just Kanye stans apparently
@marc-rene8878
@marc-rene8878 2 года назад
Isn’t forgiveness a big thing with Christians
@craigj.7035
@craigj.7035 2 года назад
Kanye hardly follows anything of Christianity
@GinkgoPete
@GinkgoPete 2 года назад
American Christianity is a nightmare anyway. Apparently Jesus hated everyone according to their dumb shit.
@rockinrocky15
@rockinrocky15 2 года назад
@@GinkgoPete idk where you get that from. that's not at all what the Bible teaches us. now if you don't agree with what the Bible says then that's on you. but Jesus don't hate, he loves. he loves you, he loves everyone on this earth even if you choose not to follow him. if someone let you down or have a bad view of christians because of someone I'm sorry. but that's not Jesus.
@Hjea
@Hjea 2 года назад
@@GinkgoPete you know if you want to discourage people of religion, then don't use lies. It makes you and other people who want to prove a point invalid from here on. You can have a discourse about religion but doing like this makes you ridiculous. Need to use facts abd logic to disprove something. Not emotions.
@cay924
@cay924 2 года назад
Well first, we'd have to assume Kanye is a Christian and not just a deluded man with a god-complex who is choosing to use religion as a scapegoat to excuse his bullshit actions.
@wertjoe
@wertjoe 2 года назад
"Sometimes we just need to dig our own graves in order to feel alive." Wow! So deep and meaningful. It's like something out of some 13 year old emo kids poety notebook.
@maka5585
@maka5585 2 года назад
wrong
@Dropkickclash192
@Dropkickclash192 2 года назад
A union would mean that kanye wouldn’t be able to hire people without agreeing to the terms set out by their union. Urgh i wish more engineers could be unionised industry wide.
@cheekybananaboy3361
@cheekybananaboy3361 2 года назад
but then the problem is he just wouldnt hire anyone in that union
@Dropkickclash192
@Dropkickclash192 2 года назад
@@cheekybananaboy3361 Which is why the entire industry needs to unionise. I’m sick of my fellow live and studio engineers being exploited by their employers, their clients, and by artists. How do you think hollywood gets by ? Actors and writers all have unions to get treated fairly by studios.
@cheekybananaboy3361
@cheekybananaboy3361 2 года назад
@@Dropkickclash192 i have no clue how hollywood gets by, i wouldve assumed it was the same situation unfortunately lol. exploitation around every corner.
@timlaxton5805
@timlaxton5805 2 года назад
@@Dropkickclash192 Time for studio engineers to organize under IATSE. They cover most entertainment and have the bargaining power to fight back against the music industry
@guppy719
@guppy719 2 года назад
@@Dropkickclash192 Hollywood isn't exactly a shining becon.
@thelastchannelonyoutube
@thelastchannelonyoutube 2 года назад
The fact that people are defending this behavior is so disturbing to me. The idea that overworking underpaid musicians is a necessity to make good music just reeks of privilege, especially when it comes from people who don’t do half of that work. Do these people not understand how psychopathic they sound? They basically just said “it’s perfectly fine to work people to death in the name of squiggly air”. It doesn’t matter how good the music is, no one deserves this type of abuse. Edit: Because you dumb asses keep bringing this up, no, I am not saying that arriving 3 hours late to work is okay. Of you arrive that late to work, it is a sign that you are irresponsible, I am not denying that. I was referring to the post that SZA put on her instagram story.
@RejectYourIdols
@RejectYourIdols 2 года назад
I agree with you on the fact that no musician should be over worked but the producer who was late for work did deserve to be fired. It’s cruel but that’s how it is. Although Kanye’s response to find god doesn’t help to defend him
@electricman68
@electricman68 2 года назад
How do you know they are underpaid? The time they spend working is specified on their contract. Gtfoh.
@evm7368
@evm7368 2 года назад
@@RejectYourIdols being two hours late for a Walmart job can get you fired, or at least on probation. I see no problem firing them over that. Sza's message was absolutely disgusting though
@suhaybmir7773
@suhaybmir7773 2 года назад
Imagine showing up 3 hours late at any job and getting away with it, let alone working for Kanye West.
@nueveswordstyle3413
@nueveswordstyle3413 2 года назад
You don’t get Songs like Off The Grid from DONDA without pushing your producers 🐐
@Andrewism
@Andrewism 2 года назад
Celebrities coming out in defense of slavery was not something I had on my 2021 bingo card but here we are.
@SM-xr6ev
@SM-xr6ev 2 года назад
It's not slavery
@2c_4m57
@2c_4m57 2 года назад
You know at first I was thinking that forced labor was bad but I heard a pretty good song on a pretty good album and now I'm rethinking the whole thing
@jadebrownofficial
@jadebrownofficial 2 года назад
That line from SZA about sometimes having to dig your own grave to feel alive is real rich coming from someone who gets to do what they want to do for an occupation and how much is she worth? Must be nice to say that to people who actually have to work their asses off everyday yet for some reason all the wealth keeps going to a tiny minority of the population... Weird 🤐
@Cwestlov
@Cwestlov 2 года назад
Jesus fucking Christ can y'all not read that she didn't write that shit! Yes she shared it and obviously agrees to some degree but that other chick wrote that stuff wtf is wrong with yall
@Cwestlov
@Cwestlov 2 года назад
@Bronsexual Police Department whatever tf you want to think is your issue but mention Sevdaliza or whatever her name is too don't just drag SZA
@aa-rondavis2914
@aa-rondavis2914 2 года назад
The other irony is her talking about hard work when she notoriously never fucking releases music. She’s released a few singles this year to keep her name out there, and even with those she was weirdly mad at fans for asking ‘when’s the album dropping?’ As if it’s weird to expect an album when artists release singles. I’m really getting turned off on her, when I used to love her music
@alexalfa892
@alexalfa892 2 года назад
Thank you for being Pro Labor Unions. I know you didn't necessarily say that in your own words. But mentioning the alternative solution along with the treating of people unfairly and trying to normalize tolerating abusive working conditions speaks volumes. I wish more people would talk about Labor Unions in general.
@maka8551
@maka8551 2 года назад
wrong
@KVLTRECORDS
@KVLTRECORDS 2 года назад
I've done 12+ hour studio sessions before and being that focussed at a screen and instrument for that long puts you in a weird mode for a while. You're absolutely exhausted but completely switched on so trying to go to bed at 11am the next morning when you started at 6pm the previous night is difficult. quite often I would just go through the day so that night I would go to bed at a reasonable time. you get a great sense of accomplishment when you do an all-nighter and make a lot of great progress, sometimes completing an entire bare bones of a track but it hacks away at your mental health after a while of doing it. I stopped letting myself write or record music after 9pm at night but unfortunately, those are the best hours to be creative because you have no distractions. I haven't written a song in 3 years. I did get a hold of my health though and started training and lost 100lbs 9 months. (I was very obese) prioritise what you hold dearest to you, I loved making music but my health was burdening me massively
@TheMagmaCartel
@TheMagmaCartel 2 года назад
Yooo SZA is a straight up a villain holy shit
@lewis809
@lewis809 2 года назад
33 hours straight? How is that even legal
@jasper3706
@jasper3706 2 года назад
It seems like it was produced in Georgia, which, based on a cursory google search, has no limit on hours worked per day. It also apparently has no requirement for employers to provide breaks. So yeah, it's legal, though it absolutely shouldn't be. For context, where I live, a worker legally can't even agree via a contract to work more than 13 hours a day (specifically they require at least 11 hours off work each day) and are required to have at least a 30 minute break for every 5 hours worked.
@maka5585
@maka5585 2 года назад
@@jasper3706 wrong
@metascrawlmusic
@metascrawlmusic 2 года назад
@@maka5585 In every thread you’re replying “wrong” to every comment that you identify as being one side of debate rather than the other. You’re just sorting posts into two categories and disagreeing (in the most low-effort way imaginable) with everything you’ve put into category A. In the case of this comment there’s no actual criticism of the artists you want to defend, just some info on employment law. But you’ve sorted it into category A so it gets a “wrong” from you. I have no comment on this sort of binary thinking but it might be something you want to reflect on.
@maka5585
@maka5585 2 года назад
@@metascrawlmusic wrong
@yunghokage2432
@yunghokage2432 2 года назад
@@metascrawlmusic he’s a sad man. Since he got the time to spam that in the comments I took the time to report every single time he’s done it 🤣💀
@TheMuffinManIsHappy
@TheMuffinManIsHappy 2 года назад
Anthony, thank you for calling out the BS in the SZA thing. Likening what you put your team through to sweatshop conditions and justifying it by saying it elevates THEIR OWN art is really gross. You’re literally the only person with a big influence who’s called it out, which boggles my mind because it’s literally someone saying it’s okay to subjugate people to misery for your own personal gain/ambition. It was a statement that sounds like it came out of “There Will Be Blood.”
@interlace84
@interlace84 2 года назад
If the text about "fainting after 33 hours of pro tools" is from the same dude who woke up halfway through the workday... I'd double check on that dude's mental stability as well :/
@MemeSnack
@MemeSnack 2 года назад
Bruh that SZA message could literally be an argument to justify slavery back in the day.
@the_shriekin_swami3069
@the_shriekin_swami3069 2 года назад
SIGMATHONY MALETANO
@EduardoSalamanca1960
@EduardoSalamanca1960 2 года назад
I’m a ligma male
@adichatterjee
@adichatterjee 2 года назад
TOP OF THE MORNIN
@carluyabut2824
@carluyabut2824 2 года назад
The lack of punctuation marks from Kanye's texts legitimizes that it IS Kanye sending these.
@Max25670
@Max25670 2 года назад
Jay z still has the worst punctuation of any human ever tho lol. I’m glad he only tweeted that one day. Even his twitter handle is terrible lmao.
@maka8551
@maka8551 2 года назад
wrong
@user-eg1jy4dh7s
@user-eg1jy4dh7s 2 года назад
Man you’re so smart. Took words right out of my head. I now love you.
@animigo5669
@animigo5669 2 года назад
Irko is a legend as far as mixing goes, makes me sad he's getting used like that. Dude has multiple platinum albums
@maka8551
@maka8551 2 года назад
How do you know that's Irko
@animigo5669
@animigo5669 2 года назад
@@maka8551 name is irko in the text chat
@martytu20
@martytu20 2 года назад
"You shall give him his wages on the same day, before the sun sets (for he is poor and counts on it), lest he cry against you to the LORD, and you be guilty of sin." Deuteronomy 24:15
@richsweeney4897
@richsweeney4897 2 года назад
There’s a fine line between crazy and genius and this whole situation kinda is proof of this
@basedboi3956
@basedboi3956 2 года назад
Is there really a line between the two? Can’t somebody be both?
@Bluezbreakr2
@Bluezbreakr2 2 года назад
Nah, Kanye is legitimately bipolar and doesn't take his meds. There's definitely a strong argument that Kanye's overall state of mind apparently declining has also hurt the consistency of his work. Don't perpetuate this myth of ignoring one's mental health in order to ostensibly achieve "greatness."
@adichatterjee
@adichatterjee 2 года назад
TOP OF THE MORNING
@NoFace-Killah
@NoFace-Killah 2 года назад
"Name one genius who ain't crazy"
@prod_peej
@prod_peej 2 года назад
@@Bluezbreakr2 this a good ass comment
@samferfolja6315
@samferfolja6315 2 года назад
the thing fantano is missing with the first text is that it’s common for these sessions to go till 3-4am. the artist will take breaks (have naps, eat food, smoko) while the producer/engineers will be setting stuff up, editing stuff in the session, chopping up takes, quantising etc. this engineer probably got home at like 4 in the morning and was expected to be back 5 hours later… pretty grim
@heronoverdose
@heronoverdose 2 года назад
I would never dare put my mother's name on anything less than what was made with the kindness she would expect for me. If the album needed more time, give it more time: actually really disgusted right now.
@heronoverdose
@heronoverdose 2 года назад
And I just remembered Kanye was always late! It was his fucking 2nd album so he's also betrayed himself.
@maka8551
@maka8551 2 года назад
wrong
@heronoverdose
@heronoverdose 2 года назад
@@maka8551 ?
@tamoray7319
@tamoray7319 2 года назад
Bruh he fired a guy from being 2 hours late and its not like an emergency or anything he was sleeping. In a highly demanded job he slacking off and could easily be replaced when hes not present he shouldve known better
@KarhuLP
@KarhuLP 2 года назад
Honestly the whole writeup of SZA is a selfcentered stinkpiece. It's pretty disgusting.
@leyllo333
@leyllo333 2 года назад
where can i find it?
@rv.9658
@rv.9658 2 года назад
Yeah, mind sharing a link?
@TheCranberrySource
@TheCranberrySource 2 года назад
On point, Anthony! Quite telling that 50 and 60 years ago, studios and the music industry WAS unionised and people worked reasonable 8-10 hour shifts with breaks, yet look at the music the 60’s produced.
@MalMotorDedo
@MalMotorDedo 2 года назад
"Stop texting Go find god Come back after you found god" Is probably the most hilarious response I've ever seen from Kanye, because I really don't know if he's serious or not 😂
@grrggrrg4805
@grrggrrg4805 2 года назад
Kanye also made me listen to almost 2 hours of his music. I was exhausted.
@bighancho5351
@bighancho5351 2 года назад
white
@aldiyarball2914
@aldiyarball2914 2 года назад
You found God!!
@Thirtle
@Thirtle 2 года назад
@@bighancho5351 black orange pink green blue
@JrChery
@JrChery 2 года назад
LMFAO
@lewis809
@lewis809 2 года назад
You’re on the wrong video, I think you’re looking for the CLB review
@Shadic960
@Shadic960 2 года назад
Here are my thoughts on the whole matter. Mainly about the music industry as a whole. For the ugly practices that go on. People need to get paid, flexible hours or a set amount of hours. Good benefits like health and everything in between. Treating the people you work with as people should be the standard. Treating people like machines shouldn't be a standard in any place. If things need to get delayed then fine. Rather have good quality work and no b.s. than forcing people to work to death. If you wanna go that far with work then that is their choice. "Forced Labor" shouldn't happen period. But, this is from my perspective. Logic had an issue where his people weren't getting paid and getting ripped off. So, this isn't the first time we have heard about the ugly side of the industry.
@drewp.weiner5708
@drewp.weiner5708 2 года назад
“So, this isn't the first time we have heard about the ugly side of the industry” That’s an understatement and a half. Exploitation like this has been going on for nearly a century.
@Shadic960
@Shadic960 2 года назад
@@drewp.weiner5708 Ik it's just some people don't know what goes on. Ain't saying that it hasn't been known for years. Because you're right. It has.
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