So glad these parents are being held responsible. All parents are responsible for the kids until they're 18 years of age. More accountability from parents is a major thing lacking.
It so damm wrong about wat they are doing to these parents and the FBI is watching the judge and prosecutor for misconduct and they will be charged for misconduct
The FBI is watching the judge and prosecutor for misconduct and they will be charged for misconduct and it is so damm wrong for wat they are doing to these parents
They probably could have only afforded one attorney so decided that one pro attorney for the two of them is better than one of them getting a paid attorney and one getting a public defender
SAME. Judge seems extremely timid and uncertain, too. Maybe she is nervous because this hearing was recorded, which is understandable. But this is difficult to watch. Esp since there is palpable tension between Judge and the atty in the pink tweed suit.
ANYONE WITH HALF A FKN BRAIN. THIS WILL DECIDE HOW NEGLIGENT PARENTS ARE HANDLED FROM HERE ON OUT. WE ARE ALL RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR CHILDREN UNTIL THEY TURN 18. THAT'S NO FKN SECRET.
This is what's wrong with the world... 😒 good people go to jail all the time. Reaching out for help causes a lot of issues in some cases. These workers aren't always here to help.
The FBI is watching the judge and prosecutor for misconduct and they will be charged for misconduct and it is so damm wrong for wat they are doing to these parents.
When is the school going to be held accountable for its part in this matter? They had that child in the office, backpack in tow, didn't bother to check it, didn't bother to demand that the parents remove him from the premises, AND allowed him back into the classroom, after which, he committed the heinous act!
.......you can check my comments on the parents (i think we should be real tough on them), i do agree however that the school administration has a great deal of culpability in this case. i don't know what can be done with them legally, but they should be finished as school administrators.
I feel sorry for them all, but that is part of what is wrong with America these days. An American friend told me that "America is broken!" Where else would normal parents buy a weapon to their child, crazy or not. A US network has a daily gun tracker and this reading is tragic and frightening. If you have a gun, chances are that you will use it at some point. If you don´t have one, you will find other - less violent - solutions to most problems.
I own guns and I have taught my children how to use them. We target practice together. But with that said I have taught safety to them and my guns are under lock and key. My kids don't touch them unless we are with them. I hope never to use mine but will if someone breaks in my house and puts us in danger.
The FBI is watching the judge and prosecutor for misconduct and they will be charged for misconduct it is so damm wrong for wat they are doing to these parents.
Guns aren't the problem! Self centered narcissistic people are! That take little to no responsibility to raise their offspring well for the rest of society! Kids killing just as many other's on campus with other tools, like knifes! It's who is raising these kids, & what are they teaching them that is a huge problem! And you don't just see bad parenting in the US so get over this trash America crud! All countries get corrupt leadership that effects their nation adversely! Doesn't mean the people of said nation are the same! My family has always had guns around! Like the tractor & the chain saw, & the kitchen knives & utensils, ALL Tools that need to be handled appropriately, & safely! Also all tools that can kill!
So the defendant can't sleep because the lights are on 24/7?? Well the parents of the victims can't sleep either because their innocent hildren were shot dead by his child with a weapon that you/your wife provided to him!
I had read that it was ordered that Ethan's name not be spoken in court which is why the defense attorney is calling Ethan "the shooter". I know I was just a shock as you maybe right now at this decision from the court. Not sure I believe it was several months ago that this decision was made.
I don't think they should be charged in the first place. Why charge children as adults if we are just gonna prosecute the parents for everything their kids do
They bought a gun for their son and the mother took him target practice knowing their son had severe mental health issues and was more worried about their jobs and themselves to get their son help and innocent people died because of the lack of their parenting.
They also went on the run and was arrested with 7 burner phones and they were hiding out in a abandoned building but they didn't hid vehicle and someone noticed their vehicle and that's how they were caught and arrested.
Believe it or not these two ladies are high profile attorneys. They are known for taking on some of the most despicable cases that no one wants to touch.
These parents raise a monster with no heart. These two need to responsible for their son action . They bought the gun and taught their son how to use it. Then on top of that these parents ran away. Leaving their son in jail. For they knew they are at fault.
NO. They had a child who was struggling with mental health issues. He begged for help but his mother laughed at him and his father told him to suck it up! Not to mention the day before the shooting when the school called them in, concerned with Ethan's behavior and they refused to take him home! They are horrible, negligent parents!!
No, they raised a child who developed mental issues, which they ignored, unwilling to actually make time for their kid, listen and getting him professional help. Telling co-workers "he's weird", telling Ethan to "suck it up", making their horses more important than their son, and then buying him a gun. That's NOT parenting.
....we need to make an example of these two. you own a gun, you're responsible for it 24/7. Period. Should it be stolen (by an outside party, not a member of your household), that's another issue to be considered, but if it's under your jurisdiction, you're on the hook for what it does. Four beautiful young lives were cut short because of their total recklessness. These two idiots need some severe prison time.
Sad he's complaining about his accommodation yet the parents of those his son killed will never be able to comfort or see them one last time, no sympathy for either of those parents to have allowed so much hatred and damage to creep into there sons life through pure neglect.
My question from the beginning. Cold stone rapist/murderers can appear in court in good clothes and unrestrained. Are these two really that dangerous? I believe wholeheartedly they’re responsible for their son’s actions.
These two are 100% responsible for everything. The boy's going to need placement out-of-state in a community that never reveals that they know/knew of the event. So that he can someday move on from this.
Andre Newcomb why are you worried about the shooter being placed out of state in a community so he can “someday move on from this”??? How are the four dead children and their parents going to MOVE ON FROM THIS ????? Good grief 🙄
The sin of the father are not the sin of the son! The reverse also. He did not scheam and outfox EVERYONE, smuggle a stolen gun into the school and fire the gun.
Andre, you seem to be under the impression that murdering 4 people will afford him freedom in the future. The first thing he asked in adult prison is how he could get his fan mail. Maybe you need to watch his trial stuff.
Unbelievable it’s jail not club med. These two fools are in this position as they failed to PARENT. They choose their own needs over fool #1. My prayers for the real victims and families affected by the evils of these 3.
These parents don’t stand a chance at trial in this town, where will they get an unbiased jury ? They are guilty of being bad parents & of the neglect of their sons needs for psychological help so it will be interesting to see if they are found guilty as charged. What a terrible life that is ahead of them.
The judge is in a world of “no” to most every request from the defense. The defense is being sugar sweet and passive and acquiescent. Still, they get nothing. Am I the only one who notices that? 🙄
The FBI is watching the judge and prosecutor for misconduct and they will be charged for misconduct it is so damm wrong for wat they are doing to these parents. I
It is wrong to the parents for wat they are doing to these parents. The FBI is watching the judge and prosecutor for misconduct and they will be charged for misconduct.
You can't discipline the crazy out of someone. While I don't disagree that discipline is needed for all children, I personally feel he needed psychological help far more than discipline. He was clearly calling out for help and being ignored by these two. I don't believe that absolves him of responsibility of shooting up a school full of children, but he did attempt to get help.
While I'm okay with the idea of the parents being held criminally responsible for this, and sadly they may have to be held without bail because they tried to flee, it seems ''cruel and unusual' for them to be in shackles
@@Allergictocatstoo oh shut up with your race baiting nonsense. And theyre not necessarily in cuffs and shackles outside the cell. Thats prison. And leg irons usually only for really violent prisoners. Inmates in county jail are usually put in shackles, sometimes one hand to one other inmates shackles, right before transport and keg irons at the cells in the courthouse.
We all have gotten a traffic ticket, and cleary with non update motor vehicles and non creditable officer try again. -no - did she go through her traffic school, not creditable.
Not a huge fan of this judge. Everything else aside re this case, she seems very uncertain, nervous, eager to comply/accommodate. There seems to be a lot of contention between her and the atty in the pink suit…
The mom was using hands signals and mouthing words to her husband during a prior Zoom hearing. To prevent them from communicating, only one of their hands is left free so they can at least write notes to communicate with their lawyer during the trial.
I think these defendants are 1000% guilty, however, there has to be a fair trial or conviction will get overturned. They are locked up, they can’t even touch the tops of their own heads throughout a lot of these hearings. Not addressing a hearing impairment could be grounds for an appeal, refusal of accommodation for a hearing impairment, for sure, would be grounds for appeal. Why would you want rights violated? Allowing their rights violated means allowing yours to be violated.
The judge is in a world of “no” to most every request from the defense. The defense is being sugar sweet and passive and acquiescent. Still, they get nothing. Am I the only one who notices that?
The FBI is watching the judge and prosecutor for misconduct and they will be charged for misconduct for wat they are doing to these parents it is wrong
Breaking news I hear that the FBI is questioning the judge in this case it may be over with this sorry judge l hope so. That would be good news for the laws. 😎
Court not aware of family ties, not important and not the courts buiness, only lawyers, they stayed In state. This a lesson , do not judge book by cover. They got a lawyer oops.
These are non-violent parents. I think it is cruel to set their bond so high that they cannot afford to get out of jail. The court system lets violent criminals out of jail on low bonds or no bond ALL THE TIME! Enough is enough and their bond should be set at a reasonable amount. And if they are going to be tried for negligent homicide, then the parents of other children that commit crimes with guns should also be arrested. This is looking like a kangaroo court.
Diana thats correct. Regardless of what they did as bad parents. And I'm not saying they are innocent, but I have also seen murders be placed on house arrest with a lower bond. They did not actually pull the trigger although thy were neglectful. But I read where South Carolina, Texas, California are all letting shooters out. And this couple is chained in court and denied. It just seem strange to me.
Bond is so high because they went on the run when they found they were getting charged. State police found them hiding in a Detroit warehouse. It was covered by a lot of news channels.
It's not about them being violent or not. Their bond is high because they're a flight risk. They already tried running before. They even drained their son's bank account before they left.
We can charge children as adults but when we FEEL like charging the parents for the kids actions that's somehow okay? This is messed up. I hope they're aquitted
@Paul Mackyou: You either don't know the details presented at the hearings, or you think what the Crumbleys did is normal parenting. Leaving your child to deal with his mental issues despite him asking for help; tell him to "suck it up", buy him a gun, then refuse to take him home when asked by the school & not once mention that gun in the meeting. "LOL, I'm not mad at you. You need to learn not to get caught". Spent all their $ on horses and a gun instead on getting Ethan professional help. Tons of signs that they chose to ignore. The Crumbleys are were they belong.
1 no gun, fake pictures, snail mail The call Ethan made to James, why- reporting a shooter, Ethan was in the middle. He called dad when was happening. Pretty sure you can't aim and dial- no go pro, 2 they didn't inspect crime scene , whole school , should have been closed down, for evidence, including the internet server, 3 counselor did not report to child protective services of issue 4 finally school board state in the letter they were not aware of Ethan but there was another who was suspended/video released of someone saying bro 5. Math test seating chart Ethan was away and they didn't search the bag
This case shouldn't be happening the boy already admitted in his diary journal that he had to find the gun ..these weirdos had nothing to do with what that dumb boy did...I DO ENJOY LOOKING AT THE LAWYER SHANNON SMITH THOUGH 🔥🔥😍😍
