My IT Team leader often complained of being forced to "have meetings about meetings to have more meetings". Just nothing really concrete, just a bunch of BS.
there are some people that just love having meetings, i was working in a IT company and our manager have meetings all fricking day, some of them not even in the schedule and they were about nothing, so, our number were pretty low, another manager came, meet with the team except the manager to now the deal, and we told we, we can do any work because we are on meeting all the time, he ask us if we can double our numbers, we said we can triple them if we dont have meetings, so he cancel all the meetings, left only 2 (those were from the client side) and hold and behold, as we said, we triple our numbers
That has to be the *dumbest* HR department. Literally their single job is to protect the business, and the risk of ignoring an obvious case of sexist and ableist, is asking to get dumped by the business
Their One Job is literally to keep the company from getting sued. Is surprised when loyal employee they allowed to be harassed and subsequently unjustifiably fired threatens to sue. Couldn't have clowned themselves more if they worked for a circus.
@@DarkEinherjar This doesn't even make sense from a cynical standpoint. They didn't move a finger to avoid surefire-loss lawsuit *for the company* that would have SURELY costed them hundreds of thousands. Not caring about people is expected, this was beyond stupid from literally any point of view.
Kevin probably scored high at his former department and this was one person so they just assumed it is just an isolated case. Nothing to worry about. Laziness
And the fact that one of their best employees suddenly has a bad performance review under this freshly put boss (the same boss this exact employee had complaints about) didn't raise ANY eyebrows shows exactly how much nobody there gives a fuck
I've rarely dealt with sexists, but my daughters teacher was the worst. He completely ignored me, shaking hands with and speaking to my husband, my daughters stepfather, who didn't really know anything about her. I would ask a question, and he would give the answer to my husband. He asked my husband questions he didn't know the answer to, so when my husband had to ask me, he turned away. It was the craziest thing I've ever seen. It could've been he was sexist. Maybe he'd gotten beaten into the ground for speaking to someone's wife. I don't know the reason, but you can't act like that when you're a teacher at a crappy high school.
I wonder how he acted with single mothers or when mothers came alone to meeting, etc Because more often than not, it's mothers who get in touch with school or with kids-related stuff (not saying Dads don't, total respect to them) so if that teacher need to meet with solely a woman, how can it be productive?
You said he can't act like that when he's a teacher at a crappy high school. But that's exactly the reason he _can_ and _does_ act like that. Crappy schools don't give a flip. "So what if he's a sexist who probably sniffs women on public transport? Hire him anyway, we literally don't have anyone else who would take this insultingly low paying job" is what the principal probably said to the vice principal the morning of his interview.
@MrRedstone exactly. Went to a crappy middle school, and almost all the teachers were horrible. My band teacher threatened to sue me twice, once for accidentally breaking a 5 dollar recorder (my friend was the one who broke it) and again for breaking an already broken instrument (before a parade, she still made me March and pretend to play.) She would also yell at me for every wrong note I played on said instrument. Last I heard, she became principal of that school. They don't give a shit.
Story1: Imagining what the VP was thinking as he signed the agreement, "why did we fire one of our best employees and why is she threatening to sue us?" What is the fastest way to fail an interview? Yell at the interviewer.
HR: Well, she was talking about how sexist her new manager was and how he went out of his way to give her a bad review during our layoffs. VP: She's pretty smart, you think she'd probably mention something about this earlier. HR: Oh she did, about six months too. VP: ...What? HR: Yeah, we swept it under the rug as it was her word against his.
@MrIHaveASword I'm almost certain a number of HR employees were also let go; it's their literal _job_ to protect the company from being sued. They're not there for the employees, but rather keep the company from being sued. _Whoops!_
@@TheEDFLegacy I was wondering that myself. I sure would have liked to have heard a follow up about them. BTW, how often do HR people move from firm to firm, and how do hiring managers react to 'former HR' on resumes?
I would have loved to be a fly on the wall during that failed interview. Even some half his age, or even a preteen, would know better than to throw a hissy fit during an interview. That guy got what he deserved in the end and I hope that company's reputation went down with him.
Then why didn't the HR helped the company in this case? The HR should have stopped or fire the sexist guy because this would have helped the company. It's literally their job to prevent all these when OP complained and filed reports about him. The HR failed in their job
Story 2: Wow, what a creepy D-Bag. He tried to cheat on his wife with someone half his age, was denied, and when Sami sees her with a friend, he calls the cops out of jealous anger (I bet). Well, I bet his wife threw him out first chance
I feel bad for the wife of the crap manager from story 1, if he feels it's ok to yell at someone giving him an interview, just imagine how he speaks to his wife and kids behind closed doors?
I hope he doesn't have a daughter, because I would feel so bad for her. Chances are, he would treat her horribly just for being a girl. Also, I would be embarrassed to have a father like that XP
Actually, rSlash, no - you're not immune to the "don't mess with the IT guy" rule even if you are the IT manager. I don't remember which episode, but you read a prorevenge story where this Karen manager screwed up a project, tried to throw OP (the one she ordered to do the project her way) under the bus and had the IT manager (who she had an affair with) delete all evidence of the email exchanges about the project to cover her butt. OP, having a contact in IT, recovered the emails and used them as evidence of both the screw up and the attempt to destroy evidence. Karen and the IT manager were both fired for tampering with company documents.
I agree, also not to throw dislike or anything but does he not realise that the people who write those stories about IT, those who messed up have *obviously* never, and will likely never, watch his vids? Some of them are even from years ago and honestly him saying something along the lines of "they don't learn" is getting old and overused by now. At least imo.
@@francescaperron2003 hi hi! I now have a cat laying on me, trying to get me to sleep. Guess I shouldn’t have streamed and tried to sleep earlier. Oh well. Going to movies later and hope I don’t sleep then. I hope you get some sleep, insomnia sister!
I mean, that's still better than someone trying either of these multiple times, at least he got the message. But why does he sound like he was expecting a "great job" cookie and a handshake, that's what got me. "Oh, you only tried once? Well, then it's alright, nevermind!"
@@JayLeeBeanz if someone is the type to try something like that once it means that they either have or will do it again. he didn't get any message or learn any lesson other then he needs to be more careful to not get caught in the future.
Story 1: you know in this day and age where being biased towards anything is the easiest way to be blacklisted from everything. You would think people would learn by now that even if you are sexist, racist, homophobic, or whatever to keep it to themselves. But now we still have people that have to learn the hard way.
Some people think freedom of speech means freedom of consequences for said speech. If there's one thing I like about today's world is that people will jump on a bigot with the ferocity to match a pack of starving hyenas.
True in the private sector and government. Academia: my PI mocked the religions of his grad students, threaten to shoot them over political disputes and mocked their intelligence. But appearly mocking their personal appearance is a bridge too far, as HR was supposedly involved when he called a grad student fat.
7:28 That was one line I HATED when I was at school complaining to the teacher, vice principal, any teacher who would listen but some how it was my fault I was bullied and "try to get along with them" "try harder to get along with them" or "you must have done something for them to act that way towards you", " there must be a reason, they dont just decide to pick on people" The teachers always made it my fault. Even kn report cards most of the teachers for most of high school life, I always got "does not get on well with others"
The last story I know OP was probably recording theirs and Sammy's talk but just the line, "I only tried once sir." Like that has to be the dumbest thing I have ever heard come out of someone's mouth as an excuse for their actions, like that's gonna help you keep your job Sammy. Hope this dude is on a no hiring black list.
Hey rslash, I just wanted to thank you. I've been listening to you for years enjoying your content. However, recently, I've had major mental and physical health problems that have only been getting worse, but listening to your videos has been a great grounding tool for me and I wanted to say how much I appreciate it and you. Thank you and keep it up
Story 2: You want her to press formal charges against a guy for attempted passionate hugging with no evidence? Do you KNOW how well that will turn out for her?
Story 1 - I'm sure Kevin thinks he bombed that interview because it was a "stupid female who doesn't know anything", and his anger was justified for having to deal with such an "incompetent". Source - I'm a female working in IT. Story 2 - Yikes! I feel bad for his wife, married to someone like that.
My wife had a dream job she wanted to career at her whole life. they worked her to death until it started literally killing her. she finally buckled and they immediately shit-canned her, and replaced her with a college age volunteer, which, we're sure was the goal. they've been through, like 8 of them in the couple years since.
the fact Kevin already got kick out one of the major tech companies already and then get kicked out the second biggest tech company in the world and blacklist from that company, Kevin going have to find a new career and this why it is important to be nice to everyone in your job cause like OP said that manager you know may know other managers at other companies if you apply there that I chief and my boss know alot chief so if I want get another job, he may know that boss there so be nice to everyone
Yeah, if there’s one thing to keep in mind when you’re working in the tech industry is to never ever burn bridges, because people move around a LOT in the industry and the whole “six degrees of separation” thing is a very real phenomenon.
@@Tustin2121 agreed same in the kitchen industry cause alot chief know each other and if you do some dumb shit like Kevin did, other Chief would know and wouldn't hired him
2nd story 1. If she was unwilling to pass charges it wasn't enough evidence to fire another employee. "I only tried once.." He didn't specify what he tried. 3. The woman was doing something illegal in your country, and you took her side. All kinds of wrong went on there.
It’s almost always 9am EST, sometimes he uploads a little later. I know because I look forward to them since I drive all over the country and typically am up well before his videos and they’re something new and interesting I can listen to.
@@MegaMyown If you're talking about the couple of minutes afterwards, it's because RU-vid staggers the scheduled uploads to reduce stress on the system! If you're talking about when he was a couple hours late, it was an accident. :)
Every day, I wait for 4 pm for a new video to come out, when I finish the new one I just rewatch the old once, thank you Rslash for helping me deal with my autistic SPD
Story 1: This is why you need *COMPETENT* and *SELFLESS* people as managers, not IneptManager (Kevin). Everything was going well, and everyone was happy, but Kevin came along and everything fell apart. Kevin's misogyny and ableism is not something workplaces need. Don't be like Kevin, because people will remember everything you do, and it'll nip you in the arse later
I need to write a book "How to talk to HR" It's going to be like thirty words. After speaking to my attorney, we are moving forward with a lawsuit over _. This meeting is to inform the company. Any further communication will be through my lawyer. An HR jumps out of their chair and goes NOW WAIT! LETS TALK.
The first story is a very important lesson about not judging a book by its cover, and how karma can go borderline nuclear when you're a misogynistic, ableist piece of garbage. This is why you should always be nice to people: the butt you kick today may be the butt you have to kiss tomorrow.
In my experience working in IT for over 30 yrs. HR's one and ONLY job is to protect the company and upper management from anything that might cost the company money or get upper management in trouble. If you aren't upper management they couldn't care less.
As someone whom works in Corporate, I cannot stress that enough. Always leave the company on good terms, never burn bridges, in the corporate world, it's a small world no matter how big the industry you are in seems to be... your actions will spread and you will become a pariah in your own field. Please, check your ego, leave with your held held high and always document every HR Communication with a follow up email to ensure there is a paper trail. Despite what HR tells you, they are there to protect the company NOT YOU. Remember who pays their check, it isn't you. HR DOES NOT have your best interest at heart. There is only one person that will look out for you, and that is you.
I got laid off from MADD because, and I quote (paraphrase) HR "MADD does not support the ADA and will not provide accommodations to anyone asking for any accommodations for disabilities, regardless of coverage by federal law." because I asked for accommodations. So what do you do? How do you prove things like that? How do you get a lawyer when you have no income? HR 100% is there to protect the company and NOT employees.
First story: do you REALLY think Kevin learned from that, that screaming at his interviewer didn't get him the job?!? Or was it more like "the FEMALE interviewer didn't give him HIS job"...?
What blows my mind the most was that Kevin HAS a wife and kids!! Can you begin to IMAGINE being married to and raising kids with someone like him? Sexist and ableist? He sounds like a REAL good husband and father. 😂
Love that second story!!! My question is; why didnt OP just go to the VP with the issues regarding Kevin? He probably would have looked into it all right away.
The problem I have with the last story is the OP's motivation. Fire someone for attempted R word, yes please, but that was his excuse to fire him not his real reason. He was already looking to fire someone when he realized it had to one of his employees. He wanted to fire one of his employees for reporting a crime being committed on his property. He's first comment to the POS R word guy was about why even get involved, why does he care what an employee does on their own time. But it was on you YOUR property. He wanted to fire an employee for reporting a crime on his property and the sexual assault attempt was his excuse. I won't say the driver got what he deserved because he deserves to be in prison, but he got as much as the OP could do, but the OP is NOT a good person
Ok so I'm not an expert on CPR but I went through training for being a teacher at a daycare and also training when I had given birth to my son and another time bringing my son home after his heart surgery, but I have NEVER heard anything about digging a hole under someone to give them CPR in fact when performing CPR you need to make sure that the patient is on a flat surface to ensure correct and complete chest compressions. Just saying that girl has some serious issues and I recommend that she NOT go into nursing because if she is giving false information on CPR could potentially put people in danger and I would personally not want her as a nurse.
What the heck is the purpose of HR? Seriously. I guess I am an old fart that didn’t work anywhere where there was an HR. Rarely do I hear stories where they are helpful to employees getting harassed, especially by managers. I am sure this is not always the case, but man I am blown away by the idiocy of this particular HR.
From what I understood, HR lead with a front that is like "hey, we're here to help employees if something happens" Their true role, though, is to keep the company from being sued or being in trouble. By solving the problems internally, it keeps it from being known on the outside and leading to bigger issues. Since their job is not actually to help employees but the company, they seem to sometimes sweep under the rug problems that could lead to being sued or else because... I guess they think people won't do it?
thanks R/ for the dedication you have to never letting us down even for one single day, I'll be honest with you, your 9AM post is exactly what gets me up and going for the day...without your videos every morning I'd never get my ass out of my astronaut level of spacey...no joke....lmfao so It was about time after legit I think somewhere close to 5 years that could be an exaggeration but I'm a lifer on this channel as my first priority every single morning lol
I will likely own a business in the future, and the HR department I create will be very different. HR should never be used as a tool to get a company breathing down the throats of employees. Instead, they should act in the best interest of all employees. HR should enforce anti-discrimination laws, use evidence such as cameras during investigations, and encourage employees to make the workplace better for all. A good HR department should not take seniority into account in any case.
To all new or struggling middle managers: Remember that you are NOTHING without your team. Collectively, your team knows more about the job than you ever will, even if you were promoted from within. Your job is not to tell people how to do their jobs. Your job is to be a valuable resrouce for your team, to assist in coordinating the efforts of the people who report to you, and to align individual skills and talents with tasks, and help people learn, grow, and overcome their weaknesses. Every success and victory is your TEAM'S doing, and every failure and shortcoming is YOUR responsibility. You GIVE the praise, and ACCEPT the blame. If you cannot accept this concept, then you are not suited for a leadership position. I say this, having been in leadership positions across many companies, in many industries. This is a universal concept, with universal results. Love your team!
I will put money on Kevin knowing who, what, and why he got fired, and applied to management positions of all of his former subordinates to punish them in his new position of power. Being a narcissist, he never thought the potential employer wouldn't hire him. There's no way anything else could have happened. Stupidity isn't in this guy's MO.
The last story kinda gives me conflicted feeling.. like i get the justice boner of ruining a rapist's life, but the way it started was weird? Like Sami did commit a crime technically so the call was correct; so I kinda don't understand why OP was being gung-ho about it (remember, it was BEFORE they realised that the rapist is a rapist Then OP said "why create trouble for me etc" and ahhhh.. that's why. And that emoji after hearing the wife cries is just double a-hole ™ for me
2nd story:So this guy is mad at ops best friend for not wanting to cheat on a person who is married cause, he was jealous of her by dating someone else who is not him by calling the cops on them.
Unfortunately it's true, it's not what you know but who you know. I was qualified for several jobs, hell I was overqualified for half of them and never even got an interview! And even when I was working other people got promoted over me. Why? Cause they would stand outside and become buddy-buddy with the managers who smoked, guess it's my fault for wanting to stay healthy! And what's worse, just like Kevin these people were the worst kind. My co-workers loved me, even said I should be a manager... but the others were friends with the managers. So like I said, not what you know but who you know. I knew more than 90% of the managers there and I had to go to THEM to get permission to do things they DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT!!! That's bureaucracy for you!
Isn't the whole POINT of meetings supposed to be getting everyone on the same page? If everyone was already on the same page then a meeting wouldn't be necessary. It would be classic "This could have been an email" updates.
reminder to not get angry at assault victims for not wanting to report it, yes it’s frustrating but the reality is more often than not victims aren’t listened to and even less often does anything good come from the report. just have compassion x
An office with a door? My first day in IT I got an office with a door, then a cube in an office with a door.... 9 other cubes, two storage rooms, two conference rooms, two other offices in the same wing with a door and a headache. Mind you this is all post covid and shared with one person, who has since left. So TLDR I'm in a wing of a building at one location, a decent(?) sized room in another all solo and support 4 other locations without having an office in them.
"i only tryed to kill him/her once you honour, they only ended up paralyzed from the neck so i should be allowed to go free!" thats basicly the guys logic in the last story.
Hopefully Sami winds up in prison, where his fellow inmates each get to “just try it once” in the showers. Again, and again, and again, and again . . .
Imagine being a tech company and hearing that a legend in your field was let go because of "alleged performance issues". You'd make fucking airjumps cause of the chance you'd get with them.
hearing stories from IT make me so motivated to get better in IT. I resonate with OP so well, I am a woman and I have a disability so if she can do it so can I :D.
So the story with the jerk who discriminated because of her disability…the lady was clearly discriminated against, she got a legal settlement that included a stipulation she would not discuss it. She proceeds to discuss it in detail with someone else. Can anyone tell me how this doesn’t violate her agreement? Or at least tell me what I am missing. Legally speaking.
