Radio Free Mormon: 016: Apostolic Coup-D- Etat 

Also, it literally is a corporation masquerading as a religion.

@@function0077 Tax free, BayBee!!!

@@Spawn303 Also, they get paid for a product that they never have to deliver. If I was a sociopath, I would start a religion.

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Come to find out he WASN'T out of town. It was just a coincidental alibi. The book "the exoneration of emma joseph and hyrum" shows proof enough they were not and staged their "out of town" story. 😪

This is what many of us believe. He was planning Joseph's murder as early as 1840.

You're not †he only one who has this sense...

It’s almost certain he orchestrated the assassination

yes l.ron / David is a great example for what your describing. Joseph just like l.Ron started a crazy story that led to lie filled sci-fi book and they both started "religions" that are really cults. 😳 and brigham and David both made their inherited cults worth billions of dollars by hurting and controlling their delusional sheep.

Have you read any of LRH’s books or taken the free courses on their website? Ever read the JS or BY journal of discourses?

@@coppersky Nah, my interest in them is more that of the dilettante and less that of the diligent student. I found the brief exposure to the RS/P manuals of JS and BY off-putting enough. I remember my dad reading lots of their in-depth materials in his struggle to maintain his testimony. I didn’t pay too much attention as I was young at the time. I’ve read that the first LRH self help book was good, but I didn’t realize the Scientology folks material. I’d love to see their $5k manuals! I did read Battlefield Earth. So hilariously bad! Do you read Scientology or Mormon doctrine? I’ll have to take a peek at that online Scientology course.

Except that Young was more competent than Miscavige.

Actually that’s a gross misunderstanding. Fruits can be super deceiving & misinterpreted. Gotta know how those fruits sprang forth.

@@coppersky I know my church’s leaders sprang forth.

don't worry. POS BY endlessly condemned Emma for not falling into Young's murderous grasp. No doubt that Young would have blamed "anti Mormons" for killing the remaining Smiths.

I left the LDS church unofficially at 18, just before “my mission”. Everyone was just assuming I would go, but I declared I did not believe Joseph smith was a true prophet and I also denied Jesus that day. I looked for a spiritual teacher and found some community at ananda church of self realization, but later I joined a Kundalini Yoga Practice taught by Stuart Perrin, learning the exercise from his most senior and closest student, Kris. I stuck with the meditation group for 19 years but I left the group, basically to have a family. Now as a father, I’ve been poring over the scriptures and I have my own relationship with God, through the person of Jesus Christ, who is not a mere guru preaching the prosperity Gospel, but salvation for myself and all who will believe and follow him, which means love one another. Long way of saying you are commanded to love one another, and dead if you don’t. I don’t know what else to say, but I do know the way, the Derekh, which in Hebrew means the way. Read Psalm 119 every day for 3 days. I’m not joining a church or a cult ever again! I wish also I could share how the book of Jonah changed my life. To me, it really answers the question “which church should I join” for once and for all. If only Joseph II had read that book more closely, perhaps we would never even have had Mormons. For, if he had read that he would have noticed that Jonah converted Ninevah, that great city, with a 6 word sermon, that God is just as merciful and gracious perhaps even more so to the repentant of heart than any of the sacerdotal elect who day by day burn incense in His holy temple of Zion, more than sixscore persons who know not their right nor their left; and also much cattle”

@@dereklords9688 If it makes any difference Joseph Smith was never commanded to start a church. I'm sure it was probably Sydney Rigdon. Joseph Smith just wanted people to be familiar with the Book of Mormon. As for me, I'm tossing D&C out and all of what the church says. I believe Joseph Smith was called by God to bring the Book of Mormon forward. If one were to read that book, it is actually very anti-mormon. It coincides well with the Bible. I'm not saying any book is perfect, but I believe they are helpful to know God.

Comparing JS to Warren Jeff’s is the only connection I needed

or Hitler!

@@markkrispin6944 As tempting as it is to compare every despot to Hitler I do not think it fits in regards to Brigham Young. As with Stain following a charismatic leader in Lenin BY followed Joseph Sith Jr. to power. He was able to change and shape the church in ways JS may not have. Germany in the years after WWI is not comparable to the early years of the church Sorry if you meant your comment to be a one-off ! When people use Hitler it really is a poorly thought out exclamation and should be pointed out as such

@@dianethulin1700 I value and respect your comments.

Stalin killed millions. BY did not. How exactly do you see BY likened to Stalin?

Same here with you, my friend

"Women with power and influence, I hate it!" said Brigham Young, probably. /s

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“Some hinky hanky panky….becoming el jeffe”. LOL Too funny. 😂

If you substitute BYoung in each instance where you said Smith, then I would say you are correct. It was BY, not Joseph, that did those things.

@@Kristy_not_Kristine I was actually thinking about revelations in the Book of Commandments. This book was largely by Smith and Rigdon. Most of the commandments seemed to be self serving. Smith would grant followers powers, but he was always careful to make sure that he was firmly established as the center of the powers.

From Independence, have partaken in Many CoC services and events. I should inform you that your statement is false. Many "progressive" moves are in direct contrast with the scriptures. Most of them have decided that the BoM is not a true book, and many have agreed that the other scriptures are only fables. They have no more doctrine, and you don't even have to believe in God or Jesus to join. It is not so much a church, as it is a religious club. As for powerful outreach, far from it I'm afraid. They are shrinking in size faster than any of the other factions. If you did a comparison of today's CoC and the RLDS of the late 1800's-early 1900's, there is virtually nothing of similarity. Many of the members are nice folks, but they are not the rightful group, despite coming from the RLDS. The independent restoration groups, which I grew up in and which broke off from the CoC to remain according to the original church practices, are far closer to the rightful church than the CoC, but they are not quite right either. I'm partial to the Second Invitation group out of Brazil myself.

I dub what the "American foreigner" said. Even the fact that they openly allow homosexuality in the leadership-that alone shows they've become apostste. But also that America foreigner brings up alot if other very valid and true facts. But i believe the TRUE gospel has to be restored AGAIN and I believe it will be through the end time servant aka "the davidic servant"

I actually think Sidney Rigdon had the stronger position. They are head quartered out in Erie, PA. Church of Christ, I believe.

I can't read gobeldy gook... and this is pseudo bat sh^t cray cray. Sentence structure: it's a thing.

Sad news. We won’t have our own planets like once taught…

No one knows God. We can either choose to believe or choose not to believe.

But we still live in a human animal society, where lies, misrepresentations, and coverups are not acceptable. Jesus also taught that "ye are gods".

Stop drinking the Cool-Aid.

@@markkrispin6944 ok Markie boy! Just for you!

What is a load of crap exactly?

@@markkrispin6944 lol apparently nothing. No response yet 🤔