Also note that A LOT of actors have always claimed that playing a well-written villain is more enjoyable, creative and gives them more opportunities to flex their acting muscles. So I would dare say a lot of non-white actors would also love to play villains. Who the hell wouldn't want to play Doctor Doom if they think they've got the role down?
And didn't a lot of the Death Note fanbase call out that the casting seemed off, given how the Japanese upbringing informed Light's circumstance (as a genius student on top of his Social Ladder)? Like, this wasn't an accepted alteration despite being the closest instance of actual "White Washing" I can think of in the last few years.
@@papershadow Its simple for riley and his "community" whitewashing is terrible and any racism against a black person is terrible yet if its blackwashing or racism to white people then its ok cause of privelege and other buzzwords.
He implied hellboy was "Asian American" when he's, I doubt you noticed but a DEMON FROM HELL! I also don't care if it's in the comics that he is Asian American because that's not how ethnicity works.
That and he's one of those characters where his skin color actually matters. He's supposed to be the outsider. Wouldn't have much of an impact if he were Chinese.
@@sharavy6851 Precisely! While I'm at it, I also never understood how or why someone being interested or liking elements of another culture is a bad thing for some people. Cultural appropriation is a term I feel gets misused a lot. Sorry I tend to ramble quite a bit lol
I actually had the displeasure of "debating" Riley on one of his streams. When he asked me if I get just as mad when they make a preexisting character of colour white, I said yes. Then I gave him an example, saying that as much as I love Liam Neeson, I was disappointed that they cast him as Ra's al Ghul, my favourite Batman villain of all time, in Batman Begins. For this reason, I found his depiction in the T.V. show Gotham much more enjoyable, as he's played by an actual Arab man, as he _should_ be. I also pointed out that Nat Wolff was cast as Light by Roy Lee, Dan Lin, and Masi Oka, all of whom are _Asian_ and _could have_ cast an Asian actor if they wanted to. He blocked me.
What I hate about Riley is that he acts like "people of color" have literally NO representation on the media and that white people are the ones who are ALWAYS represented on TV and movies That's not the fucking case here. Bollywood has almost NO white people in it because the vast majority of the population in India... are Indians. There are no white people in Korean telenovelas because it's predominantly Korean. Does Riley even understand that concept? White people don't complain about the lack of representation in Bollywood, manga, anime, and Korean shows because they know for a fact that whites are a minority in those countries. People like Riley are so fucking sheltered, it's not even funny. You can tell they've never stepped foot outside of America.
Butterfly_Crescent92 whats funny (and with funny i mean incrediblely sad) is that riley actually has stepped foot outside america. he travels alot and even lived in france for awhile. and yet he cant grasp the very easy concept of white washing or the fact that most people arent retarded and dont believe everything they see on tv. he knows about the world outside of america and yet his view on everything is so fucking americanized its truly tragic.
Maybe he needs to go to countries where People of Color are the vast majority. He should go to China, Japan, Korea, India, or even better, go to Saudi Arabia and see if he likes it there.
Post that comment to Riley's page. These libtards are happy when white people and cultures are fully gone from this Earth. Maybe then world is full of peace and progress...lol. Whites are already big minority on Earth.
I don't even understand the Iron Fist thing. Danny Rand is a white guy and has for his entire existence, to my knowledge, BEEN a white guy. It's pretty much just like batman, but instead of Bruce intentionally doing globetrotting soul searching and learning ALL THE FIGHTING, from ALL THE CULTURES (no one shouting cultural appropriation there?) Danny WAS ORPHANED IN TIBET (Not even Tibet, FAKE MAGIC COMIC BOOK TIBET) and WAS RAISED IN THAT CULTURE. My Chinese art professor in college asked if we knew what an Egg and Banana were? We didn't really reply because a lot of the time he just goes off on tangents and his accent is pretty thick but he's still a boss art teacher. We thought he was talking about the paintings we were looking at, like some history lesson, and he goes "An Egg is a white person raised in [Asia] China, and a Banana is an Asian person raised in America[or Europe], Because their white on the outside but yellow on the inside, or yellow on the outside but really white on the inside." It was like a gut-punch because that comment came out of nowhere and I almost DIED LAUGHING. Danny Rand is an Egg. The character is an Egg. A 50+ year old Chinese man told me that term.
As a female "person of color", I don't give a crap of how many white people are in films and shows, and don't fail to connect with them due to their "whiteness". Also, I write and draw, and most (if not all) of my characters are white (and also male)- does that mean I have "internalized racism" and misogyny? Am I a brown-hating brown person? Nope! Also, being mixed race, I have a lotta white, too, but I don't hate myself for having white. It is what it is, and I'm proud of it. Gosh golly, it's almost like none of this actually affects me! Maybe, just maybe, people make characters however the way they want, and don't like being told how to make their characters! Wow, imagine that! Girl, I've been bingeing on all your videos, and absolutely love them. Your humor is top tier and your editing is fantastic. Thank you!!
@@ArthurTorrias Good writing is about how a character pursues their goals, whether the goals are good ones, what means they use, etc. Not about their outer appearance. Someone obsessed with race doesn't have enough mental bandwidth to dive into more nuanced issues. Thats why the writing is so bad.
I'm also a writer, and a good percentage of my characters are white dudes, could that be because I'm a white dude? Maybe, but I'd rather have lots of white characters than token characters, because that shit is even more racist. Also you might notice I said MOST not all, because I do have female characters and poc. Why? Because I came up with them that way. (Excepy for one but I actually liked reqorking them into a female instead of a male, it allowed me to have lot more ideas and make a lot of new plot points.)
Literally there are MORE POC studios out there than just Hollywood but Riley seems to want to focus on why a predominately WHITE studio is casting WHITE actors. What a dumbass.
Did Riley attempt to compain about Black Widow? She's Russian though... Played by Johansson.. So, should we call it US-washing? Or cultural appropriation of the Soviet spy culture?)
No, I think she was suggesting either a talk of white women being the token woman in a team of men, or more likely how Johanson is commonly being pulled for roles that are different than her real identity... as actors should be.
I think it was for her not being Japanese in Ghost in the Shell. Despite the character being a robot (so it probably shouldn't matter) and the Major possibly being white in the manga. Also the japanese don't care, they have no problem with it, it's just the Riley's of the internet who do
Can someone please tell me why this Kirsten Stewart knockoff keeps making videos spouting such misinformation? But, hey, if it means we get an awesome JLongbone rebuttal, I'm down!
Just because a movie character is white and I am white it doesn't mean I connect with that character. And just because a movie character is black and I am white it doesn't mean I can't connect with that character at all. It comes down to how they are written not their skin color. Also you know I don't really feel like any other white person in the world because we have white people from different countries with different cultures. And also if we talk about representation I go by my country and culture first. And I can say that I am not represented in Hollywood because actors from my country barely get jobs there and when they do they play either really minor role or a Russian.
Yeah, a prominent Polish actor from our country got the chance to play in Netflix's The Witcher. The only representative of the country the books hailed from. He had the pleasure of playing a very special character designed just for him A corpse...
Idris Elba was cast as Roland Deschain in the Dark Tower. He was written as a white character and they cut one of the main characters in the book who was a black woman. So I am just trying to understand where they fall on the leftist triggering scale.
As a white European my favorite movies when growing up were those with Jackie Chan, action packed comedies. I guess that because I am white I actually did not enjoy those movies and could not sympathize with Jackie Chan's characters. At least, according to Riley "Horse Face" Dennis.
Just realised a thing. Might be wrong but I wanna give my thought a shot: I feel like art is a reflection of how society is. Not the opposite. So like when black people started becoming more respected, blackface disappeared from TV shows and movies. Females started having better and more diversified roles when they were given more rights and became the same as males. Stuff like that, y'know? They didn't stop doing blackface to give respect to black people. But now these people kinda do the opposite. It feels like they THINK the change is to be done on TV first, so they think every character should be black, trans, queer, etc. Even though the fact there's more of those characters is mostly the fact that now they are more respected in society. They got it all backwards. Or almost, now it's shoved in our faces not as a reflection of society, but how they want society to be. Which is catering solely to them. Again, might be wrong, it's my opinion based on stuff I don't know much about.
I don't care about the character's race unless it's integral to the story or another character's arc. For example, Holly Short in Artemis Fowl is the very first female officer in the LEP Force, and faces a lot of hardship because of that fact, shaping her into the tough character she is. Julius Root, the male head of that organization, is at first very hard on her because of that fact, and that he knows she can be the best officer the Force has and stick it to the sexists. Over time, he becomes a father figure and mentor to her and it's devastating when he dies. In the movie version that's coming out soon, Root was cast as a woman, destroying a vital part of Holly's character and Root's as well. Holly no longer has that drive to become the best she can be and Root therefore has no reason to be hard on her because of that. Just maybe because of her "potential" or whatever. That's an example of bad movie making. That's what I don't want. Of course Riley would probably think that's a good thing but whatever. Edit: I just realized also in the Artemis Fowl movie that they made Butler black. Which normally I wouldn't have a problem with. But his family has been "serving the Fowls for years", sometimes without any pay, and he is going to serve and protect Artemis Fowl, with his life, until he dies, and in the third book he does just that. Congratulations Hollywood. You played yourself.
The photo of that random white guy was from the Death Note adaptation on Netflix. I guess Riley is saying that a Death Note adaptation set in AMERICA, would have Japanese family as the main characters? You could, but you also have to consider that actors are not robots or pairs of shoes. You can't interchange them so easy. Also, the same movie also has somebody who was white changed to a black guy. Both guys acted well and that is main function they serve
They butchered Death Note. It is set in Japan and they all should be Asian, it is not hard to find Asian actors. Plus, there already were 3 Death Note movies so why did the Americans need a 4th? Same with Ju-on and such...
The irony of this is that Death Note, despite being a piece of shit, manages to break Riley's argument no matter which direction you take the discussion. - If it's a matter of the casting pool available, Hollywood has a largely White pool of actors in that age group that now requires acknowledging why, say, Bollywood primarily casts Indian actors. By law of averages, American works of film would have more people working on them who are white if one assumes all other factors like talent, literacy, and physical capability as necessary for roles are completely equal across all candidates. - If it's about racism amongst the producers, I believe a large amount of the staff with power over the casting were Asian or Asian-American, so is the suggestion in Riley's head that PoC specifically discriminated against hiring PoC for an adaption of a story where it would not disrupt the setting or consistency? This also considering that the Netflix adaption is set in Seattle, which has a proportionally larger Asian-American population (~14% vs the US at large being ~6%) - If it's about "visual" faithfulness to the source material, that argument is immediately thrown off by the move to the US setting in the first place, considering that Japanese vs International law was a significant factor in Death Note's Cat-and-Mouse conflict (meaning the race and setting change aren't just arbitrary). "Anime = White" discussion aside, Light and most of the cast were explicitly Japanese (i.e. native to the story setting) or foreigners raised in predominantly white-populated countries like England. - If it's about the character depictions being the important part (seeing an "unwanted" race over talent in the actor), this is put down by most of the performances, whether by actor or direction, simply not being effective at depicting either the Death Flix characters or representations of the Death Note archetypes: Light's a delinquent doormat, Mi(s)a's a manipulative dom trying to control everything, and L is overly emotional to the point of compromising his principles on Justice in the case. - If it's about pandering to or reaching an audience, Death Flix's casting was one of the only things anyone remembered about that project before or after it came out. The fanbase clearly wasn't pleased with the decision, likely in part for what I cited above about how it was among the many examples of changes that undermine the premise and idea of the original. So it's not like this was something that is perpetuated by appeasing an American-White audience, as they objected to the decision even before seeing the script was a piece of shit too.
4mp3d and if you watch slot of anime a lot of Japanese characters, especially young females are portrayed white. Sailor moon had big round blue eyes and blond hair, but was Japanese.
"It's so hoooooooooooooot" it says while wearing a thicc ass beanie. I don't put it past Riley to know that keeping your head and neck cool is the best way to keep your whole body cool, but it's ok, it says "Little Queer" and it's gotta repreSENT.
1990BJK If only he were about "social justice". I don't know a single person interested in justice who would steady tell a lesbian she's a transphobe because she won't ride dick. Only in Riley-land can that be called "justice". To me, it sounds like contempt, not "justice".
Jessi B Hey! Don't insult drag queens like that. Some of the queens on the show are fishy (Tatianna, Kenya, Gia Gunn) as hell and they look waaayyyy better than Riley.
But there’s one difference between them. One is entertaining and funny as hell. The other wants to make you self-concuss yourself. P.s Riley is the fucking horrible one.
Not only did Spiderverse gross millions at the box office, but it's considered one of the greatest comic book movies EVER MADE, and Miles even has his own critically acclaimed video game. If that doesn't show that geeks aren't the racist trolls that Riley makes them out to be, I don't know what will.
Um... When I was growing up my role models were, Sidney Poitier, Will Smith, Wayans Brothers, Mr. T, NWA, Snoop Dogg, Dr. Dre, Spike Lee, Eddie Murphy, Richard Prior, Whoopie Goldberg, Danny Glover, Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan, Samo, Brandon Lee, Sylvester Stallone, Mel Brookes, Gene Wilder... Diversity anyone?
Agree 100% with you. This is also an issue concerning LGBT. Some (I say some because obviously not everyone in the LGBT community is butthurt about everything) LGBT people believe that there is no rep when in fact there has been several movies as well as shows that represent them. They show that they aren’t just gay or bi or transgender. They also have other things that tie into who they are as a person. Could there be a bit more rep? Well sure I can see that. But when someone disagrees and uses logic, they attack them and of course they get praised. Ex: Voltron. Nuff said.
Listen Riley. Growing up I wanted to be a Pokemon trainer, and let me tell you that neither Ash nor Red look like me or represent me in any way. In fact, not only are they opposite to my gender they weren't even created by American culture. But I guess i was only really okay with myself growing up because there were people who looked "like" me in movies and TV shows I didn't watch or care about.
If he is consistent in his argument, he will no longer be relevant. As is the case with most SJW's. How can they complain about an issue if there is no issue?
i love you for not stoping your amazing content ! Your personality was the breaking point that made me start a RU-vidChannel ! (Like, "Dang I want to make peoples laugh as much as she makes me!") Love from France.
If I may, I'm mostly white- most of my family is ethnically Jewish I'm ethnically Jewish And as a kid I didn't see a lot of Jewish characters You wanna talk about stereotypes for POC in media, Riley? Don't even try. Jews get stereotyped CONSTANTLY! You know what tho? I didn't care. I didn't need someone who looked like me or were my same ethnicity for me to relate to them. So yeah
Ya I feel the same way. It is nice to see a Jewish character who’s not a complete stereotype, but if I don’t like the way a character is done, I don’t watch it lmao but it doesn’t take away from my confidence. Personality always mattered more to me anyway.
The worst part about this kind of argument is that it throws a sponge in the face of the huuuuge amount of talented, established black actors throughout cinema history.
Thank you again for bringing up biracial people. I'm half Italian and Irish, half Puerto Rican, and am pale as frick. I was also raised by my white dad, leaving me with no raising in Puerto Rican culture. My greatest cultural influence is Italian American. To live in Riley's cookie cutter world pretends people like me don't exist.
I spit my coffee (which was black btw how I like my women) at 5:24 holy fuck J please marry me. Riley’s eyeliner in this video is pissing me off, one eye is much sharper and angled than the other
as a POC native american and Hawaiian both very underrepresented in things that truly matter like ya know weird things like the right to vote in every state....the right ti clean water.... and the media not really reporting any of it. but yes the "real" problem is that there arent enough of my people in movies. says my white messiah! thank you riley for speaking for my people, since we need good white people like you to speak for us.
Also, in *Ghost in the Shell THE MANGA*, the main character looks like your typical manga character--in other words, she doesn't appear like she's of any particular race. She's just of the Japanese manga aesthetic. They could have made her any race, and I doubt that people from Japan were "offended" by the choice of using a popular White actress. That said, I haven't seen the "Scarlett Johansson" version of GITS, but I have seen the anime movie, and there weren't ANY Black folks in it. Also, Japanese tend to be of a lighter hue, like Caucasians, and, as I've said earlier, their aesthetic doesn't promote any particular racial characteristic. In fact, a lot of their manga/anime characters "look White." Knowing a little bit about Japanese pop-culture, it seems to me that a lot of Japanese are happily flattered that Americans are impressed and are growing a fan following of their films and comics and for this clown to be virtue-signaling about this particular title just proves that he's an ignorant troll.
Actually, the Ancient One ( Thilda Swinton) from Dr Strange was Celtic and the celts populated ancient France, Germany and Britain and Thilda Swinton is British; MEANING A PERSON FROM BRITAIN; WHICH WAS POPULATED BY CELTS; WHICH IS THE ETHNICITY OF THE ANCIENT ONES CHARACTER!!!!!
Just bc someone is white doesn’t mean I automatically relate to their story and I assume the same goes for ppl of color, that’s such a ridiculous generalization
My biggest problem with this whole narrative is that they only look at HOLLYWOOD. We know Hollywood is trash. We always complain about it. You want to see movies with POC leads, gay leads, or female leads? Or, GASP, all of the above? SUPPORT THE INDEPENDENT MOVEMENT. But nah, you wouldn't have anything to bitch about, would you? Its all about which films make the most money and not about the actual quality, huh Riley? Kiss my ass. Sincerely, from a current mentee in an independent studio.
4:04 Oh my gosh, THANK YOU. Just because there's a lot of people of a particular race, and that they therefore make up a large amount of a category, does not mean that society is pushing them as a default or ideal.
Looking up the a character/idol isn’t about race. It’s about their characteristics. You look up to the bravery of Steve Rogers who throw himself into battle to save innocent people. You look up the the perseverance of Katniss Everdeen when her father dies and she keeps her sister and mother alive. You look up the the guardian in Heimdal, who protects the people of asguard when Hella comes to fuck some bitches up. You look up to Shuri, who turns Wakanda into a gigantic prosperous utopia with her dreams and imagination. If these idiots honestly think that POC need or even want actors who look like them to feel empowered, then that is infinitely more insulting than any racist joke or stereotype.
You are absolutely brilliant. I love seeing intelligent people destroy Riley’s warped views (even though it’s effortless). But I love your views and how you articulate them. Props to you!
Heath Ledger - Method Actor, the Joker from the Dark Knight, he Adapted to the Role of the Joker. He was Bad Ass, and Terrifying in the Movie because he was So God Damn Good, Blessed with the Gift of Method Acting by God. May God Bless his Soul. 🙏🙏🙏🙏 Riley - NOTHING! But a good SJW trying to Force People into a Destructive Ideology.
It turns out that one character everyone was bitching was supposed to be Asian in that movie a year or so ago, was actually supposed to be white according to the original creator, so if anything these SJWs were the ones being racist by assuming that simply because the character was from an Anime that she just HAD to be Asian.
6:16 "actors of color barely have any opportunities" Morgan Freeman net worth: $250 million Samuel L Jackson: $270 million Eddie Murphy: $200 million Halle Berry: $90 million Viola Davis: $25 million Michael B. Jordan: $25 million Jennifer Lopez: $400 million Oprah Winfrey: $2.5 billion
I can't stand this "look like" argument. One of my housemates once told me that Robert Downey Jr. looks like me because we're both "white". I straight up told her that we look nothing alike because, objectively, we don't. I don't even think we're the same shade of tan-ish pink.
I think it's funny how when people complain about whitewashing, they always suggest the same three POC actors for the role, showing they only know three POC of actors.
I know this was two years ago, but I'm a fan of ghost in the shell. She was half white but being burned beyond all recognition in a fire Motako was given a shell ( synthetic body) so technically she isn't anything.
Actually, from about 1998 right up until the elevator scene in Winter Soldier, I could easily say that Blade was my favorite Marvel superhero featured in a live action movie. The fact that he's black is and always has been completely incidental as far as I'm concerned. The fact that Captain America looks more like me than Blade doesn't inform my opinion of either character. Both characters appeal to me for a far more significant reason, they're fucking awesome.
So, what happens if we tell Riley about Kingpin and Roland Deschain? Just two off the top of my head... Edit: further in the video you make many more references. Thank you.
Riley makes All that noise but missed a perfect opportunity to call out the Yellow Washing done in Memoirs of a Geisha. Zhang Ziyo, Michelle Yeoh _and_ Gong Li are all Chinese.
Late as fuck, but did Riley seriously imply most of the characters from the Marvel movies are not giving colored actors a chance? When all the comic book characters they're based off of have been white since inception?
This is basically how we should change society: Black dude: I'm struggling White man: IS SOMEBODY FACING OPPRESSION?! WELL ALLOW ME, YOUR WHITE SAVIOR, TO LIFT YOU UP OUT OF THE MASSES! Black dude: It's okay I can do it myself I don't really need you to- White man: NONSENSE! YOU'LL NEVER GET ANYWHERE IN THIS DOWNTRODDEN WORLD! YOU NEED MY HELP! Black Man: Seriously dude, I White Man: ALL BLACK PEOPLE ARE STRONG AND GOOD
I just don't get why so many people think that the ONLY way you can relate to or look up to a character is if they are your same race or religion. Shouldn't people be relating to characters for their personality or something a little less superficial than the color of their skin??
As a director, I will cast whoever is best for the role. Sometimes that involves race (for example, I wouldn’t cast a white guy to play MLK or a black person to play Winston Churchill). But it all comes down to who is best.
