Real Doctor Thinks We're Unsafe - Safety Third #16 

thanks for having me on! 😌🍣

Next time there's gonna be double the Discord sounds

Having chubbyemu, a doctor, on the show without Nigel, a chemist, is criminal. I bet Nigel would have had plenty to discuss on the chem side of medicine

"He died the way he lived, very slowly and painfully" Made me choke on smoke, that came outta nowhere and had me laughin so hard.

This is the most unexpected guest but a very good one.

**Discord mute sound effect** "Chelsea, we're recording a podcast right now." **Discord unmute sound effect**

I watched all of these in a row and now all my thoughts are narrated in Will's, Kevin's, and Nigel's voice. Take that as you will.

I'm 20 minutes in and I'm already almost just ignoring Alan, Kevin, and Will and watching the docs face as he listens on in abject horror at the actions of these three.

The physical pain in this Dr's face. If anyone is dying it is me, because this is killing me.

I love the pure chaos energy of these boys torturing this poor doctor.

When i was 16, I pickled (non-dumpster) eggs the exact way Allen did with old pickle juice and gave myself absolutely brutal salmonella poisoning. I thought i was gonna die.

Allen is definitely going to be a star on chubbyemu's show. 22:05 Egg shells are partially permeable, and they were sitting in racid milk and flour? Bruuuuh.

It's always great when an outsider to the group comes in and doesn't expect the chaos and everyone talking over each other. He's trying to be so professional and it's hilarious.

Medically what would happen if you ate a hotdog that had been in a Canadian mans pocket?

Stuff Made Here is like a god level engineer, you guys should definitely think about having him on as a guest!

I'm a dumb idiot who's going into my last semester of B.Sc. in chemistry so the mercury poisoning story is always a welcoming thing to hear on a Thursday morning going into lab. I never want to touch a fume hood again

Sad that nigel wasn;t there for epic biochem conversations but great guest and great episode, Hoping to see Chubby Emo agian Some time

Watching Bernard wince and choose which wrong things he is going to spend the time to correct was my favorite.

Ngl, I wish Nigel was there. He did so many questionable things that I think Chubbyemo can make a whole lecture about it.

That sharp bit on the skull is called the styloid process (styloid means "shaped like a pen"), it is totally normal and is a site for muscle attachment.

*PRESENTING TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM*

1:39:00 Literally happened to us. Wife goes to emergency room. Hospital is in network, doctor is not, labs are not. We have to pay for those 2. We were not given any choice. This was a life threatening situation and other people made decisions that we have to pay for. It's insane.

I've been watching ChubbyEmu forever. I didn't like how he was cut off at times, even though he was super graceful about it, but it was a really good discussion panel, and I appreciate all of y'all's personalities.

1:40:00 ish. I'm 24 and live in NZ so we have universal healthcare. I walked in to the ER on May 1 2020 with pain and swelling in my testicle. Was diagnosed with cancer within 6 hours. On 4 May 2020 I was then back at the hospital for surgery, 12 hours later I walk out. Paid absolutely nothing and received perfect care because there is no insentive to prioritise someone else based on who has how much or the better insurance or whatever

“Why do liberals only care about horses” lmao that got me

every time someone said: "but.... what if....." I got a big smile on my face and prepared for a never asked question

This is hysterical😂 I love Kevin appearing back onscreen with thumb & finger apart @ 31:15 "8 inches right?" 🤣🤣

God I love this podcast. The perfect mixture of laughs and serious interesting conversation

I'd love if the podcast started with everyone in hospital beds

I feel like chubbyemu is legit a fan. Every time they reference something he’s seen the episode. I think that’s pretty cool.

In terms of ER doctors having something to do, I kinda chopped a bit of my finger off with an axe, n after they stuck me back together asked "uuh, how??" "Kinda cant see outta this eye". The Eye doc on call was Soo pumped to actually do something. It was 11pm on a Tuesday, n I had steel shards in my eyeball, he probably hadn't done any actual work for days. He did a great job, but we dragged it out way longer than it should have taken, we got on great. I was on local n general painkillers, so I felt great, n had already told my boss I was in ER n probably wouldn't be in tomorrow, so no rush to get home. But he explained all the gadgets, let me have a play with some of them. We had a great time. The half hour procedure probably took 2 hr. I only bailed when I needed a smoke. I probably could have got shown the secret smokers area n got a cup of coffee n a biscuit. But it was a pretty good experience, n didn't cost a cent. Public medical care FTW. Edit ~45min: yeah, that's kinda the point of public health. Like water or roads. Worth paying tax for that. The kinda shit you just pay for hoping you never need it. N if you do need a few stiches, meh, it's there. If you have have to have major surgery after a car crash, the guys are still there. One reason to avoid 'murica. Fixing people is up there with a million bucks a mile for roads, or massive dams. We all need roads n water...

The discussion at 1:29:00 (or thereabouts) is interesting because that's what I find is common with most new technologies and industries that pop up: when the technology is valid in some applications, but scam artists will try and sell it to you when it's not really applicable. Good example: solar panels. Many homes benefit from it, but solar providers will try to sell it to you even when they know your home is not a good candidate for it. Another good example would probably be dietary supplements, like multivitamins. Supplements like that are good for people with deficiencies, who will actually see a benefit from them, but for the general population they're effectively useless.

For the record. You cannot eat 50 bananas in one day. I got 25 free bananas from my professor in college (he had a banana tree) and being the poor student i ate like 14 or 15 in one day instead of buying food and i started uncontrollably twitching, maybe having heart palpitations (My nursing student friend checked my heart so that's unclear) and felt very ill. So if you make it past 20 bananas i would be surprised. It was awful i tell people never to eat more then ten in a day cuz i started to feel sick after my 11/12th banana

Hey Will RE: Podcast Box: The ROLANDV-02HDMKII or Roland VR-3EX All-in-One might be something close to what you want, the one thing I don't know about it is if you can hear the return audio from the PC. If you are using XLR it is a bit more annoying but Roland has some options. If you need some help, let me know.

Please dont leave Discord unmuted during a podcast. I kept thinking I was getting messages lol.

How DARE you platform such a DANGEROUS and IRRESPONSIBLE "medical professional" who REFUSES to entertain the thought of eating pickled dumpster eggs?

I swear ChubbyEmu is basically one of us just sitting back watching the train wreck lmao

I think what Will said about reading a tweet as negative from the get go is why Twitter feels so awful. Everyone just assumes you are hostile and they come back at you with hostility.

Whats weird is that I actually learned some real medical stuff. And I'm now alarmed at how much garbage food Allen eats. He's our sole warrior fighting the food waste problem. You guys quickly became my favorite podcast. This is great

I don't know about the money thing, where I live you can go and buy a test just like William is saying, like a hamburger. You order it online, then go to the place and they take your blood (or whatever other thing), you pay x amount that is known at the time of purchase, you get out and get the result in a couple of hours/days. A regular blood + pee test cost me what a meal at mcdonalds costs (that is WITHOUT involvement of any insurance or the public healthcare system). You could also buy a straight up MRI scan, an MRI of the abdomen with contrast is 200$ (also without any insurance or going through the public system). The cost of healthcare in the US has to be inflated by something, because it's just not possible for those things to reasonalby cost as much as they do.

Man, that cancer thing and not getting treatment because you don't have insurance....That's the stuff that pushes people to commit violence. Nothing left to lose anyways.

I'm so glad you're still doing this podcast even though you're taking a break from the other channel. Good to see you're still around William

The device you're looking for is an audio interface/digital mixer. Focusrite has high-performance options for a decent price. Most of these don't interface with HDMI though. Blackmagic ATEMs are good for mixing camera feeds, but those require multiple HDMI inputs rather than just one. If your primary focus is audio, you'll need an HDMI to Audio convertor, which there are tons of. I've worked as an audio engineer for the past few years, and have used these a ton during my career.

I don't know but Bernard's reactions to the chicken nugget & eggs stories basically killed me🤣🤣 @18:00 & @20:46

I absolutely adore Williams’s humour and just the way he talks tbh

EMIA, meaning presents in blood. Have a Merry Christmas all and stay *safe. Edit: 18:05 This is golden; 34:27 I believe that is the styloid process.

now that's a collab ! I wish Nigel was there for all the biochemistry talk tho

That pointy boy on the skull is actually a bone. It's called the styloid process and connects to muscles that help control the tongue and voice box.

the guys didn’t know that -emia means presence in blood, this is how their organs shut down

I'm brazilian, and we have a bunch of social problems that makes me wake up depressed every day. And yet, every time I hear anything about american health system, all I can think is "how can society get to this point?".

What a delight to see one of my fav RU-vid doctors with my fav disasters!

Culinary school student here.... anything food left out past only 2 HOURS is not safe to eat. 4 HOURS is still pushing it safety wise but anything over that and bacteria starts to grow. Obviously depending on the humidity and temperature.

@1:44:10, when I was a child, I got cancer while I was living in California. I'm fine now, but according to my parents, it was a fight to get the doctors to even acknowledge that I had cancer, despite being extremely pale and basically dying.

Oh my god I love ChubbyEmu I'm so glad my favorite RU-vidrs are really coming together now

2:50 my grandfather drank and smoked since he could walk, and stopped once my uncle was born because his wife threatened to leave him if he didn’t stop. Surprisingly he never had cancer or any other smoking or alcohol problems after that. He passed away last year from heart failure. I will also add he used to work with asbestos a lot without protection.

fun fact: doctor is a fancy word for safety nerd

When I had to put my cat down (cancer) he also passed just from the painkiller shot. He was so weak he passed before they pulled the needle out. 😿

I love these episodes where they ask experts absurd questions, like asking Explosions and Fire about making bulk gold fulminate lol

Around the 53min mark, my father was on holidays in the UK when mad cow disease was going on. To this day he isnt allowed to be a blood or organ donor in case he was infected. Prions are some crazy shit

40 - 140F is the 'danger zone' for food. That's the zone of temperature in which bacteria will proliferate. There does need to be bacteria present in the first place, of course, and something like a deep fried food is unlikely to start off with much bacteria on the surface assuming it has been handled properly... but there will always be SOME if it has had any contact with the air. You should assume all air is loaded with bacteria because, well, it is. And all surfaces are covered with it. Luckily most of it is harmless to us. It's good to know how it works though so you can have a handle on what is legitimately risky and what's not. The only thing to be really super severely concerned about are things that create an anaerobic environment, meaning no oxygen, like stuff kept under oil. That can be VERY dangerous. Botulinum bacteria exists everywhere, but it can not function in the presence of oxygen. It just sits and waits. The bacteria itself is harmless to us. BUT, if it gets into an anaerobic environment at a favorable temperature for awhile and it wakes up... it produced botulinum toxin. While the bacteria is normal and can be killed with normal cooking temperatures, once that toxin is formed, you're not going to be able to destroy it. You'd have to burn your food to charcoal to destroy the toxin. Freezing does not hurt the toxin. And the toxin is the single most poisonous natural substance known to mankind. Cooking things submerged in oil (like making garlic oil) or smoking uncured meats (with no pink salt or other nitrites to cure it) at low temperatures for long periods (cold smoking) are the two likely scenarios where you might accidentally produce enough toxin to kill a city. So, like, don't do those things.

I was actually at Disney when the whole thing with the alligator went down, and horribly enough I met the family the day before the incident on the monorail while heading to magic kingdom

Please get electro boom 💥 on here....would be cool 😎 🙏 👌

Probably the best episode yet! This is easily my favorite podcast, 2 hours flew-by so quickly! Please keep up the great work and awesome guests!

Bernard has such a unique smile that looks like extreme happiness without a crazy vibe. It needs to be an emote or something similar to stop this injustice!

Medically trained and that's my biggest fear also being locked inside yourself. I saw some research that's showing some people when in a coma are aware of everything. That's so scary.

Snake oil is an actual remedy for joint pain. The reason snake oil has its modern meaning is because some guy was selling on an industrial scale snake oil that had no snake oil in it. Edit: in Chinese traditional medicine water snake oil was used to cure joint pain and arthritis as it contained lots of omega-3. Then businessmen in the US tried using rattlesnakes which don't contain enough omega-3 to be effective.

Wow, the American healthcare system is terrifying :( I have multiple complex health conditions and universal healthcare. I have been almost dead several times, and We are already quite poor, because I can’t earn any money, and my husband has to care for me and is in school right now. I’ve had experiences when doctors were incredibly dismissive, to the point where I nearly died of gallbladder infection (because I had stones and hadn’t been able to eat for over a month by that point). Eventually they took me in and dosed me with antibiotics, eventually removing my gallbladder (finally!) and then I was sick with (thankfully mild) refeeding syndrome… all because they didn’t think I was sick enough! Because I look female, and because I am autistic so I communicate pain differently. Thankfully I now have great Gastrointestinal doctors and specialist Dieticians. Who make me so grateful.

Cedar pollen is a big issue in Texas in terms of allergens.

There are so many people in the U.K. who could potentially have been exposed to prions (myself included). It’s so concerning that so many people just don’t know if they are going to get vCJD in the future or not.

Yeah I had a panic attack and went to the emergency room and my visit to get my BP, pulse, and a cup of water was $700.

1:30:00-1:35:00 Allergens in Texas are extremely bad, especially in the spring, especially in central to east Texas. There are a very large amount of trees everywhere, and they are producing pollen almost year round. Also, weeds like ragweed, dandelion, etc produce a lot of pollen that get blown around in the spring and fall seasons. We also get periodic dust and smoke from other places in the world. The last thing, it is also humid here, so we get a lot of mold. Especially when it rains, yeah sure the rain washes out all the pollen in the air but the next day mold spikes like crazy.

We need to see an episode with Cody Don Reeder (Cody's Lab)! That guy must have the BEST stories.

too bad nile wasnt there. i feel he wouldve added a lot to the discussion about organic mercury

Advice(?) for recording, silence the discord notifications on your machine for the recording period for a higher quality recording, since clippy was executed for war crimes in the 90s so humans have to given the annoying tech support to the creators now.

I love how the Spotify discription still says one episode every week

I felt Allen in that chicken nuggets story. I've seldom strayed away from eating a half eaten burger on my desk for breakfast the next morning.

Chubbyemu is one of my favorite RU-vidrs and i loved seeing him here

bruh the pickled eggs out the dumpster had Chubbyemo just speechless, that's absolutely foul

Canadian here, not a medical professional (at all) but what I can tell you is free healthcare is definitely awesome as long as you keep paying your staff well. Healthcare where I live is a nightmare because of short staffing, Covid did make that way worse, but yeah. People aren't paid enough, they go somewhere they're paid more, puts more pressure on staff, they have to do mendatory over time (yes. they are FORCED to do overtime.) they burn out, more nurses drop out than new one comes in, pressure increase, it loops until the rubber band snaps, and it crash. Covid pretty much snapped burned and atomised the rubber band. And since it's so easy to get healthcare people take it for granted. I was talking to an american telling me his uncle had a 3 000 000 debt because of cancer, while here people were screaming in anger because parking price got raised while everything else is free............ so yeah.

I can't speak for other states but as an oncology social worker in WA state, my oncology clinic works our asses off to get our undocumented, uninsured patients seen and treated. If a patient has a confirmed diagnosis of cancer, with very little income and no assets, I can usually get them some form of coverage in WA state. Some of those patients do experience delays in care due to financial assistance delays or Alien Emergency Medicaid processing times, but it's not all hopeless. It's the folks earning just slightly higher that have the hardest time paying for care (e.g. middle class, uninsured, and over income for financial assistance through the hospital). Bring a medical social worker on your show, we'll scare you about how shitty the system truly is, because we deal with every one of these barriers to care every day and are expected to pull miracles out of our ass.

Chubbyemu trying like hell to drag the boys back on topic 😂

What chebbyemu says about money and healthcare being wholly incompatible is soooooo important. I really hope he has a video on this topic alone. It is so utterly important. I propose that it is the most important problem humans face at this moment.

You can sorta pickle eggs by putting them in pickle juice... but no that's not exactly how pickling works

I really have only one criticism of the show: Let someone answer a question. 3 words in, everyone is trying to make a joke or ask a follow-up question. As a listener I'd like to hear the answer, even if we're all just here to have a good time.

30:35 Ugh now I'm worried/curious that under NPO my "hunger madness" might trigger. It's like getting very hangry plus some light delirium, as well as being a migraine trigger. I'd always assumed that the nourishment from the IV would prevent that.

Wow, what a state the US health system is in. For all the flaws in the NHS at least nobody will die from refusing to go to the doctor and every person can go for a 10 min consultation with their doctor for free, literally go in, wait a bit, have the consultation and leave

Price transparency is the plan. Encouraging competition rather than discouraging it would also be a massive help, among other things.

A fellow uninsured Floridian here and I've got an 8k bill I'm sitting on for 2 nights in essentially the Super 8 Motel of hospitals and an unrelated ultrasound at the same hospital as it's the only one in town. Sucks for them though, they're never getting paid. Mostly cause I'm broke but also why pay to be checked on twice a day, have a faulty or intentionally disconnected buzzer for service, and have nothing done for you other than an IV of water for your dehydration and be sent out the door 2 days later? We've gotta at least make it free to be treated like human landfill. Great podcast tho, I kinda dig ChubbyEmu being a guest

No, no, no. Kevin Hospice is palliative care, and a very good thing. Their patients are already dying, hospice makes them more comfortable while they do. My wife is a hospice social worker for over 20 years. Hospice already has a negative stigma so I had to comment so that people would know palliative care is not, in fact, euthanasia.

1:36:00 70k for a possible Apendicitis is simply insane. I live in Brazil, we have universal health care (which is flawed of course, but definitely a grace in our country) and even if you are paying for a private treatment it would be a tenth of that, maybe less. And no, I am not talking about private hospitals in the jungle with monkeys as doctors and football players as nurses.

We can now refer to Allen as the "trash pan-da"

Always good to see William is doing fine.

No Nigel :( But there's Emu yay!

the discord pings made me look at my other monitor EVERY TIME

I'm sure it's about to be explained, but here's the rundown on food safety and prep rules. Frozen: probably safe for a long time. Bacteria don't live and/or reproduce at such a low temperature. Chilled but not frozen: safe for a little while, like a couple days, tops. It's why, even if milk is in your fridge, it can still go bad. While it's not the ideal environment, bacteria can still reproduce, albeit at a slower rate. The danger zone for food is 40-140°F (4-60°C) for any period longer than 4 hours. This is the ideal environment for bacterial growth, and this is where foodborne illness becomes an issue. Overnight in a car, even in a somewhat chilly environment, is just asking for food poisoning. Above that 140 range, bacteria are killed off and food is safe to eat. However, even if food is held hot, you still want to reheat it to at least 165 for 15 seconds every 2 hours. Source: USDA rules, along with me being a ServSafe certified food service worker with a combined total of 6 years of professional experience and 25 years as a home cook. Food safety is extremely important to me, chiefly due to the number of times I gave myself food poisoning as a kid, like inadvertently eating curdled cottage cheese or eating a week old ham barbecue sandwich that was so far gone that I thought it was roast beef. Kevin is right in that if something seems off, don't eat it. It's better to throw it away than to risk it, because the last thing you want is salmonella or botulism.

I absolutely love these podcasts. Keep up the great work.

You guys should read about/ learn about tone indicators! Y’all mentioned a lot how you have trouble reading tone on the internet like thinking something is inherently negative or not and I think it’ll help you a lot if you used them, I have ADHD so I’ve always had a hard time reading people’s tone whether online or IRL so finding about tone indicators has really helped me a lot and I think you can benefit from it :)

What a cool surprise guest!

I had super similar symptoms as @William Osman with the cloudy head and feeling kind of dumb. It would get better in super clean environments. Turns out I have asthma. An Sp02 monitor and a lung volume checker are good tools.

Chubby's reactions to the outro were so priceless. I really loved this episode.