Restoration tips for seized vintage BSR turntable 

Hi Robin. Thanks for the comment and I am glad that you did great successful DIY job. Teddy

Great to hear from you. Congrats on your success. Teddy

Good to hear! Thank you for letting me know.

HI, thank you for your compliment on my video. I know you will finish your restoration successfully. Teddy!

Good to hear! Thank you for the comment and congratulations on your successful restoration work.

You are welcome! Enjoy restoring your vintage music gear!

same here and bsr changers aren't always that easy to fix

Great to hear, congrats!

you are welcome! Sorry for the delay reply.

Good for you! Congrats for your success.

You are welcome!

Hi, Digam. Thank you for your compliment on my video, and congratulations on your success DIY restoration. Enjoy your music with your precious turntable!! Teddy

You are welcome, thank you for the feedback!

You are welcome. Thanks for the comment.

Great to hear that.

@@teddyhashee What type grease used in this turntable any buddy know tale me please and I’m live in uk.

Glad it helped

HI, cycle cam gear will be removed when you give a time to burn the old grease with soldering gun. Take a time, while heating it, check the movement by your finger, you will feel it starts melting. Also you will smell the grease is burning. teddy

I don't have a soldering gun, so have been using a wood-burning tool (the tip looks the same as that on the soldering gun in your video). It was successful at getting the grease loosened up enough to make the cam gear turn, but it would seem the gunk that's holding it on the shaft is thicker and stickier. I'm trying again today and will do the back and forth turn/pull move that you show here, as well. What did you use to re-grease once you were done cleaning?

I just want to make sure that you removed c-figure-crip that holding gear to the base. If so just take time to burn the dried up grease you will get gear moving smoothly soon. For cleaning up, remove remaining grease with q-tip, then use rubbing alcohol to remove grease further, the best tool you can have will be liquid wrench amzn.to/2r41USi you can find it on amazon, ebay, or your local hardware shop.

Yes, I did remove the circlip, but you're right that would make it difficult. ;-) Thanks for the tips!

Glad to hear that the video helped you. Congrats!

Great to hear from you! Enjoy music with vintage turntable!

You are welcome!

Hi, Juan. Thank you for your compliment on my video!

Thanks for the comment.

Hi, thank you for the great information!

You are welcome, hope your restoration work goes well.

Hi, James. Thank you for your compliment on my video. I believe turntable restoration is much easier than disassembling VCR. Hope some day you will try to restore record changer!

When you are heating, use other hand to try turning the gear a little bit, very gently, keep doing this for a while, you will feel that gear's dried up grease starts melting, at the time you should smell that the grease is burning. Take a time.

When the tonearm reaches the end of the record, inside of the changer it will kick the small plate to start cam gear rotation, then when the rotation ends, the tonearm will set in the rest position and the same time power switch will be goes to off. In this mechanism, if you have a problem proper ending, some of the moving parts are not moving due to the dried out grease. If I were you, I would remove changer from console, and clean up the whole mechanism using rubbing alcohol and liquid wrench.

Thanks so much I will try that!!!

I use a lithium grease, like this one. amzn.to/2Dv3zGs

+Davide Artelier Hi, Davide. Thanks for the comment.

Davide Artelier How do I get the turntable removed from the cabinet in my Columbia model C-1148W?

Seems like it is wooden case console stereo. I guess you need to remove back panel and see inside from its back. Usually changer has 2 or 3 legs and each of them has stopper, you need to flip it to vertically, and you need to remoce the cables from the amp. Not difficult to do so.

Teddy Hashee Thanks!

Remove screws from back or bottom panel and pull the stereo out slowly. Then lift deck up slightly. There should be two lockdown clips underneath the transit screws. flip them downwards. Then you disconnect the L/R phono jacks and the power cord from the motor. The latter two steps might be difficult; in this case, you may need to spray a little penetrating lubricant and use a small flat head screwdriver to pry off the power cord and disconnecting the jacks from underneath the record changer using a pull and slightly twisting motion.

some of the spindle need to be pushed until you hear the click sound. Some of the spindle need to be rotated in order to secure it. Seems like you need to find how to set spindle securely to the body. Check spindle and its holding parts from the bottom and see what need to be done in order to secure the spindle. When the record does not drop to the platter, check the alignment of the spindle and the parts that will push the moving parts of the spindle, this moving parts will hold the record in the air, then hiding into the spindle when it is pushed and eventually dropp the record.

Hi Teddy, thanks for your help. I had a bsr once and placing the spindle was very easy. So I thought this one could be with the wrong model of spindle, and got a new one from V-M Audio, but it didn't worked too. Shouldn't it fit in something underneath? There is a metal plate that runs underneath the central hole. This metal place is attached to a spring that forces it upwards, and keeps popping the spindle out.

goo.gl/FZ1qFS Maybe you are missing one parts that lock the spindle. Check my picture.

Wow! I think you find the problem, cause I don't remember seeing that part in the mechanism. I will disassembly the record player (it's a Sony HP-179) again as soon as I have some time and will post the results, thank you again !

Follow the instruction, let me know if still speed control is not working. goo.gl/g13q7l Remove drive tire and clean it. Use alcohol to wipe out all grease. Also clean the edge of the tire. goo.gl/51ayUa Clean the all moving parts in the picture. If you need, remove that parts and clean it completely. goo.gl/627XZ2 Clean with alcohol and apply grease. Under the spring should be cleaned as well. If you need remove that parts and clean completely. goo.gl/sMRuoL Remove motor, clean the spindle and give oil too. goo.gl/jSLhMg Remove screws and remove parts that is holding bottom of the motor spindle. Clean spindle as well as coil and inside of the coil casing. Give motor oil to the bottom spindle holder.

Teddy Hashee thanks for such a prompt response. If I get a chance I'll do that tonight. You're a legend.

Teddy Hashee that worked a treat. Thanks! Now the stylus quickly moves over the record and to the middle. Do you think that's a worn stylus that needs replacing. I'm so grateful for your assistance!

After you cleaned the parts, you want to make sure to wipe these parts with rubbing alcohol. Otherwise, it will slip and speed will be not accurate. goo.gl/ZL98P7 Top of the spindle and edge of the drive tire. goo.gl/CYMAiF Inside edge of the platter that contact with drive tire. When your tone arm slides to the center as if it is skating on the ice, there will be 3 possibilities. 1) Your needle is worn out too much. You need to replace it to the new one. 2) Your turntable is not on the level position. You need to keep the platter absolute horizontal position. 3) The anti skating setting is not right. Your anti skating adjustment need to be adjusted. If your changer has anti skating adjustment like this, goo.gl/SfYWYw here is how to do it. 1)Keep your old worn out needle on the stylus.. 2)Check your platter is absolute level position. 3)Set old worn out LP record, do not use good record that you do not want to make any scratches. 4)Play it, then while tonearm is on the record, adjust anti skating until the tonearm stays in the same position. If your changer does not have anti skating adjustment, then you replace needle with the new one, then put turntable to the absolute flat position, then playthe record. It should be OK. Here is a good info about anti skating. musehelix.com/anti-skate-explained/

Hi, Dave. I understand how you feel, I was there. Which BSR model are you dealing with? The model number is attached on reverse side of the changer. Let me know, I am not sure I will be able to find service manual, but I can try!! Teddy

Hi, Herbert. Which screws are you talking about?

The two with the two black clips that hold the turntable to the box

You flip the clips and you can put it through into the hole.

Teddy Hashee I did that and flipped them back and turn the screws but it doesn't come up to the box but the screws go down please help this old 71 old man

I can not see the problem, take picture and send it to me at teddy.hashee@gmail.com

What is a problem with your turntable?

@@teddyhashee auto not working arm not gone even asingle cm on platter

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It means you need to remove old dried up grease from shut off mechanism. The end of the cam cycle, it kicks small probably metal parts that connected to another metal plate, in this action the metal parts that is holding the power switch free, then it will shut down. When this happened, on/auto start knob will goes to the off position at the same time. All you need to do is remove platter, flip the changer, check the all metal and plastic parts that has grease, removed all of them to make all moving parts free. Then test it again. If it goes well, then you want to give a small portion of new grease to the moving parts. It will take around 2 hours of your time from start to complete the job. Hope you will be able to fix your turntable problem.

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