I like the idea of Waspinator having an indestructible spark. It’s pretty much the only explanation for how he survives so many obviously lethal attacks.
I think Inferno could claim an honorary durability stat (certainly not an 11 though) as he shrugged off being vaporized once. I theorize he only died because Megatron was firing at him at that moment, and therefore assumed he was under orders from the queen of the colony to cease living. 😎
You know, I actually never realized how lucky Waspinator must be, considering that he flew through space for a couple million years (or a billion, depending on personal preference) and not ONCE did he get blown up by a Decepticon who thought he was an ordinary alien, not to mention that he did it with bug wings rather than thrusters.
@@PerspectiveEnd thinking about it, if predacons are the decendants of the deceptacons in G1 they may have some level of the deceptacon flying ability that lets even the non-flying combatants take to the skies.
I had an idea recently and I need to get it out in writing. Ok, so if Persecrive were a beast wars character, his transformation code would be: "Perspective, CRITICIZE!" I feel like this is the peak of my creativity
Man I can just imagine how OP Rampage would be in these categories Like he only died after having his half spark (half his spark was cut out so megaton could keep him in line) skewered by a blade made of raw energon
Others have already mentioned Megatrons hip cannons, i just remembered that Terrorsaur has an Eye laser attack just like Dinobot and Waspinator. i think that eye weapon really makes terrorsaurs arsenal kinda OP. You see him use it a few times including when he and waspinator were melting a hole underground in the episode A better mouse trap.
I like how... fair(?) the beast wars power levels feel. There's definetly a lot of characters way stronger than others but you can match up two people and most of the time I could see the fight going either way. Great video perspectiveend!
Gotta say, I do think the listing are perfect. Beast Wars knew you can't have that 'cool, best fight who never dies', everyone has a flaw that another member can make up for. I feel like more series could take a note from that. You know what? Waspinator needs this. That poor dude needs a win and having the only 11 stat seems like a good win
Scorponok is a weird one because of how inconsistent he was during the show, but despite this, I think his ratings of strength and tactics could be raised a point since he has been shown to aim at rocks behind people like Terrorsaur. He does this in Gorilla Warfare, where he shoots behind Dinobot so that the rocks crush him to distract Optimus. Scorponok also has utilized his tail in a fight, this is shown in Dark Designs, in the same episode he got into a fight with Dinobot and was also able to keep Dinobot on the ground for a while.
@@PerspectiveEnd In that episode he swung his body so that his tail would whip around and hit Dinobot which is what knocks Dinobot down and allowed Scorponok to jump and headbutt him. Rewatching it Scorponok does seem to just enter a blind rage but he did seem to keep Dinobot on his back for a while.
Interesting thing about Trantulas. While in the show he was one of the lesser fighters when it came to melee, for his original toy Hasbro intended to make him a ninja. Kinda interesting then that in the show the other spider character end up with more ninja like properties. Though I'm not complaining as Tarantulas ended up becoming when of the best evil scientist characters in all of Transformers.
If i'm not mistaken, the missiles megatron uses come from those blasters on his thighs. You can see them on the sides of his thighs, imbedded in his beast mode kibble
@@PerspectiveEnd Yes, they did. I was watching an episode today where he fires a missile and it came from his tail/pincer. God, that just looks awful and makes no sense.
Durability: 1st-Waspinator (unkillable, not even Beast Machines could kill him) 2nd-Rampage (needs pure energon to put him down) 3rd-Inferno (after being VAPORIZED still came out okay, only when a battleship ass blasted him he finally stayed dead) 4th-Tarantulas (only because he needs his minibots to drag his pieces back together time and time again or upload his mind from Black Tarantulas' body)
If I remember correctly, Waspinator used the same wormhole to get back to Cybertron as the others but not on a ship. It was still funny. (I did like Beast Machines)
I mean Tarantulas took a Nuke to the face, detonated by a pair of bombs that were on him, which wound up Killing Ravage. A lot of them got blown up ALOT.
Waspinator beats everyone with the power of plot armor Seriously though, that notwithstanding, it's interesting under analysis that Waspinator isn't actually that bad in combat, he's just very unlucky.
Megatron had only two loyal troopers Scorponok and Inferno or three troopers if you include Rubbeer ducky yeeess. Beast Megatron said it best in the Lil Formers number 129: The Megatrons comic.
Terrasaur also gets blow to bits and lives, same with inferno. But both were destroyed by heat (inferno by the heat of an explosion, and Terrasaur by lava$
As does Megatron, Beast Wars is not a Flawless show, and it played a little fast and loose with what was serious damage. But as Waspinator usually remains conscious after destruction, I gotta give it to him.
Great video, definitely do more, but I'd personally put Terrorsaur tactics at a 7 just because he doesn't show off many examples of quick thinking or advantageous positions. I'd also put Blackarachinia tactics at a 9 if not a 10. She's a god tier spy and she set out traps that always landed and worked and she liked to do them oftenly. She makes every advantage fliers have look like a joke.
If the durability thing applied to more characters, the transmetals would definitely rank higher, they are far more relisilient, however waspinator and rampage definitely would still be the highest ranking
Megatron also has those guns on his hips that I don't think I ever saw him use. Blackarahnia op plz nerf. Waspinator is not totally useless. Proud of my boy.
@@PerspectiveEnd if there is anything that I feel needed fixing in this otherwise glorious Transformers series, it was the ridiculous inconsistencies in how damage is life threatening. Inferno is definitely an example of this. Considering he was killed alongside Quickstrike by a blast from the Nemesis but survived the energon explosion that literally vaporized him and in fact was when Hasbro originally intended to kill him off... but like, if you decided he could survive that, then you gotta go all out when it's finally time to kill him...
I have to disagree about Megatron's plasma beams being useless. In "Possession," he did cripple Dinobot, and in "Dark Designs," he crippled Rhinox to the point where Dinobot had to carry him out of the Pred base. It's possible that the damage it does depends on the energy he puts into it. Honestly, the power-scaling in Beast Wars is iffy-at best because it's mostly episodic and there's a lot of plot armor.
Hey PE! Hopefully this time I'm quick enough to have you see this before your video for the figure is all but posted, cause it's a neat little undocumented feature -- just got my LGC Bomb-burst, and due to the shape of his feet, if you have something narrow enough he can actually clamp on and hang upside down! Also, the backback will sit much flatter with the wings sattached if you keep the pick (axe?) thing in his hand.
@@PerspectiveEnd Cool! I got him from BBTS, who are also the only place I've seen him in stock without being scalped for ~3x MSRP, even if it is just for five minutes or so at a time before going back to sold out. They must be going like gangbusters.
If you do end up making a version of this with the transmetals, fuzors, and tm2s, you should increase the max level to 20. Transmetals are just better than normal beasts on average.
Waspinator Would've shattered the timeline is he unveiled his True power , There's a good reason Unicron never made an attempt to eat earth During the beast wars
Who is more evil megatron or tarantulas. Both are insane, willing to manipulate and sacrifice hundreds to achieve there goals, and don’t seam to show any remorse or guilt for there actions.
If you take Beast Machines into account Megatron, if you take just Beast Wars into account, I'd say they are probably about equal, with maybe the Edge going to Tarantulas. Megatron would torture his enemies for fun. Tarantulas would torture randos for fun.
That wasn't Scorponok, that was just about every Predacon firing at once. the Mountain was also rife with volatile Energon, so a luck shot likely detonated some of that.
damn and I thought i'd argue more about it all of them are basically perfect a few notes just terrorsaur did use his big blaster thingy again, just in that one episode where they hunt the maximals in beast mode, i think 8 is basically perfect for scopInok, but he also used in the finale of s1 one toxic sting, and the backflip was in the predacon rhinox episode, where he suddenly became a brute and attacked terrorsaur head on, (my headcannon is he did that to look good in front of megatron), blackarachnia I always saw her as the weakest predacon, after all she has the petite girl bodytype, but in what she lacks in raw strenght makes it up in martial arts i'd say, extremely agile and very kick-ery, basically 4 or 3 on strengh imo, finally posession defines extremely well waspinator's skill, his body is capable of much higher skill but bc his user is waspinator is very low, so i dont think its bad luck, its more like he has very low reaction time for a flying bug
so basically the spiders are the most powerful predacons of the whole show, still, i wonder who would win in a fight, primal or black arachnia/tarantulas
i agree with everything in the list as you explain your reasoning for it well but my only problem is that all of waspinator's stats isn't 11. The universe has to keep nerfing him from time to time so that it can avoid getting annihilated by a stray blast from the bug himself
If im correct scorponok also had a laser tail, and i found the clip where tigertron froze scorponok, and when you gonna cover season 2, are you gonna cover ravage and transmutated ?
Yes, I plan to cover everyone who shows up in the later seasons in a future video. As for Scorponok I don't think that's correct, he did attack with the tail a few times, but I don't believe it had a laser.
I tend to have 3 places where I keep all my figures, so if I don't tend to have that problem, now accessories, that does throw me for a loop, and I don't have a good answer.
The problem with other TF Series, is that the 1 there are WAY more characters, and 2 the power levels are WAY more drastically different. Like how do I compare Optimus's Strength to say Omega Supreme. Compared to him, everyone else is like a 1 in strength, and then you got Unicron.
I wouldn't say the are all necessarily evil. I mean Blackarachnia turns good, Quickstrike isn't even a Predacon, Inferno is just loyal beyond belief, and Waspinator isn't really evil so much as just on their side.
If there are two subordinates megatron actually cares for (at least for villain standards) who would they be. I’m thinking dinobot and inferno. Since he did seam to care when he got hurt during the fight in aftermath, and he keeps trying to clone dinobot showing that he likely missed having him on his team (though didn’t care for his honer)
I don't know, I feel like Black Arachnia and Tarantulus's mini gun legs aren't all that powerful. They feel more like peashooters that stuns their enemies than do any heavy damage. Though I don't disagree that they both have a lot of weapons.
Waspinator is not actually immortal, megatron has a ton of blank protoforms on board, but they only work with waspinators spark, whenever I get blasted to peices my spark transformers to them
@@PerspectiveEnd they only work for waspinators spark, as for why he survived getting blowed up after the dark syde was destroyed, one blank protoform survived, and that’s how I survived megatron firing at the early humans, I was stilling walking back there at the time
How if fire a good weapon if characters can survive lava and faking through the atmosphere im thinking of headcanoning or maybe making it a thing for my series, but I’m thinking of giving them all heat sheilds which only work when entering or exiting an atmosphere
Your wrong about Infernos strength. He throws hands with Rhinox, fights Dinobot, fights Black Arachnia and does well in every fight. He even says that "I doesnt need a weapon to fight you" to either Dinonot and puts him on his back.
What if scorponok had a big brain??? How effective would he be in battle?, tbh if he did one of the annoying attacks he could do is make his missles tracking, and make them faster and shoot them rappidly from the far since well he was a techy type of guy even if he was dumb and adding great intellegence would make him very very dangerous good thing character development never went his way
The Wasp is nator Maximals chompin’ at his feet Wasp’s our hero Wasp just can’t be beat *buzzing noises* The Wasp is nator! Also, how you feeling about HasLab Deathsaurus?
I wonder why they made inferno a flier, maybe because he is male and he’s an ant, and male ants have wings, even though his beast mode doesn’t which means his beast mode is female, he’s bi gendered
