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Same, my sis hated the movies and said they were absolute horrid while I thought she was overreacting, then I read the book and I also have hatred against the movie
No, it's like then getting motion sickness in the air. That woukd be like a fesr of drowning, which Percy actually got for part of the hoo series, so yk. Just a more accurate comparison.
The fear of heights is fine cuz phobias are irrational and can't be controlled (like Percy getting a fear of drowning). Motion sickness however... Easily can.
Percy was afraid of drowning in heroes of Olympus bro also your right this never happened but I think a more accurate comparison would be child of Zeus afraid of lightning
@@bixmcgoo5355 could you elaborate by chance? most fanfics authors don't even monetize their work and post it to sites where people can read it for free. they write fanfics out of the joy they get from a source of media and aren't trying to rip it off or classify it as original work. can an artist not draw fanart of an animation show too because it's considered as "ripping off" content from the original source? of course not. that's stupid.
@@samanthalorainebilagot7461 I feel like it’s more like Harry and Snape being friends, Percy and Kronos being friends is more like Harry and Moldy Voldy being pals
“I guess the moviemakers just wanted a scene with an abandoned theme park” damn, if only there was a great scene full of character development set in an abandoned theme park. That they decided to cut from the first movie for some reason
IKR! That scene would have been great in the first movie and would have actually given us some of Percy and Annabeth's relationship. Something that is sorely lacking
Tyson wasn’t Tyson in this movie. I love Tyson, he was kind and innocent, but people treated him like he was stupid because of that. Tyson is younger than Percy, but here we got a teenager like him. It was awful.
My question is how does a cyclops know what the hell a Boy Scout is anyway since clearly he can’t be part of society at all since the mist isn’t an ever present thing
Harry potter book fans: "Goblet of fire is the worst adaptation ever! They ruined Dumbledore!" Thunder stealer & Ocean of scary things: "hold my sprayable mist"
Luke is too smart to do this. If the movie would do that, it would get much hate for disrespecting the character. Luke is too inteligent to fight, but tbh the movie ignored that trate
If there’s one thing I’ve learned as a special effects artist: it doesn’t matter if you tell the director/producer it’s a terrible idea, or how many people tell them that, they always think they know better and insist on it anyway. These two movies are the ultimate example of that.
@@dubiouscloud5115 I feel bad for my brother, he went to the theatre to watch it and payed money, before I watched it I didn't think it was very very bad but it was very very bad
Grover was actually also meant to be on his own quest at the beginning, as at the end of The Lightning Thief he went out to look for the god Pan. This then led him to getting captured by the cyclops, which Percy was having dreams about due to the connection that Percy and Grover had. Those dreams and knowing Grover was in danger was why he wanted to go on the quest in the first place, to save his friend and also the camp, not because he wanted to be seen as the hero.
I personally liked the "Don't walk on my roof scene" To me it feels like the most Percy Jackson energy we're going to get lmao to each their own. However I agreed with everything else you said!
He did it. The unthinkable, the impossible, the untolerable, the inconceivable, he watched the Sea of Monsters. Big respect for you. Hope you didn't suffer too much
Honestly I can’t even lie I enjoyed both the movies and the books, even though it dosent pay a good homage to the books I really enjoyed the adaptation because it was cool towards most kids. But yeah the books are better and gives more context
There was one time when I was discussing with a friend how they would have continued these films with Luke gone. And... well, seeing how they made Hades the bad guy in the first movie and how they heavily implied that Luke was dead, we came to the conclusion that they would have probably aged up Nico (of course) and make him the villian. I bet that the idea was to make him and evil lord who brainwashed Luke and whose sole motivation is to see the gods fall. I have no proof, but I have no doubt.
Young Walker from the Adam project is going to be playing the new version of Percy Jackson in the Percy Jackson and the Olympians film and his voice over is so awesome and spot on with the monologue in the book it's far better than this you should check it out
This is what ticks me off about Hollywood and the movie industry. You've got a director meeting up with the creator of the books they wanna adapt into a film. This can go one of two ways: A) The director listens to the author and makes sure they do everything right Or B) The director throws everything out of the window and into a flaming trashcan and just basically rewrites everything terribly and glues on the title in hopes that it'll sell good
When I saw this movie in theaters with my dad, I remember saying to him beforehand that I knew it wasn't going to be a good movie but that I could forgive a LOT if I got to see Percy as a Guinea pig. Needless to say, I left the theater furious and thoroughly disappointed.
They basically just jumbled a bunch of different events throughout the books, picked them out of a hat, and used that to decide what went into which movie. We've got the Hydra from book 2 showing up in movie 1 The amusement park in Book 1 showing up in movie 2 The prophecy in book 5 showing up in movie 2 The screen writers either put no effort into this, or put so much effort to actively ruin any potential these movies had
Feels bad for Clarisse's character in this book. As much as she is pushing herself to try to be tough and prove that she is worthy of her possition, you get the impression for the entire story that if camp were under attack she would make some effort to take on the enemy on her own regardless of how helpless the odds if it ment a single person might have time to prepare or escape. She is one of the most authentic characters in the story, she really IS about the life she portrays.
When I watched the first Percy Jackson movie, I was like “Wow. That was the worst 2 hours of my life. The second one can’t be worst than this since the bar is practically on the ground.” But the second movie brought a shovel.
@Eliana Volfson yeah that’s my point. That revealing Silena early is the same as if Harry had killed Nagini in book two and both actions spoil the ending
Definitely. If that would have happened in Harry Potter movies I would have gone crazy. And they literally just destroyed silena by showing her on the boat. What worse can happen in the movies? They might even kill Percy in the last part.
@@DrZuluGaming well, atleast they had some suspense and tense moments to show the suspense, and didn't ruin voldemort and pettigrew's characters, so all hope wasn't lost
They really nerfed Tyson to oblivion didn't they. Something else, I hate how Kronos becomes this massive creature. Kronos with Luke's body seemed much more terrifying to me.
Sorry I know this comment is old, but this was my exact thoughts on this too, I was terrified of him because of his power, then to hear (I think Poseidon/Luke in the Last Olympian?) say that him regaining his true form would incinerate any mortal and be 10 times more powerful than any Olympian god was just chilling, you knew Percy was on a tight timer to stop him from getting his true form back.
I Know This Comment Is Old But I Hate How Kronos Was In Lukes Body It Made Him So Boring And Disappointing Especially With How Luke Regains Control In Every Other Scene And How Kronos Never Even Does Anything Other Than Show Up Monologue And Then Get His Ass Kicked Over And Over Again Until He Died
This film series didnt do tough women. They made it look romantic between Clarice and Percy when it was the complete opposite. It was her time to shine and prove herself. Percy let her.
Yeah and in lightning thief annabeth rough and too tough and in sea of monsters of I’m tied up I’m a damsel in distress help meeeee and she wears no armor
Yeah, also the reasong he goes to the quest is to get credit, while in the book he doesn't give a shit, he simply wants to save grover, who is not captured in the movie making the whole thing super pointless
This movie is honestly hilarious to me because the way they tried to backtrack and exposition dump in order to have the story make sense was hysterical. I mean, changing it from him being 16 to being 20? You can't tell me you didn't laugh your ass off when you heard that.
I unironically want the director to keep making these movies for the pure shitpost and garbage memes that is about to happen. They literally killed the Big Bad of the main series in the second movies as well as fucking up Luke's character arc. If they did make the sequels, this is how they'll butcher the characters: Nico is straight until they retcon him as bi, Bianca will 100% be gay, and Percy, Annabeth, and Rachel will definitely have a love team like Twilight did
Wonderful video. I just starting to read PJ. Just one thing: Of course there's not much sense in adding Tyson getting seasick, but it's not like impossible. Thalia is afraid of heights too.
It’s not entirely the same. Being afraid of your parent’s sphere of control and having a physical reaction to movement on water are different things. Thalia’s fear of heights is more than likely due to some sort of trauma irregardless of her godly heritage. Possibly a fall, getting left somewhere up high (like getting stuck on a ferris wheel), etc. Tyson getting seasick is a bodily function, which is a huge difference from an irrational fear. Children of Poseidon don’t get seasick because the sea is their father’s domain. The water is where their strength is the greatest, and, while yes, Tyson’s on a boat and not directly in the water, he is still in Poseidon’s domain and therefore shouldn’t be having a negative reaction to his father’s sphere of influence. If, while on a boat/life-raft, Percy can know exactly where he is and how fast the boat’s going (things he’s physically able to do due to Poseidon being his dad), Tyson shouldn’t be having such a negative physical reaction while on a boat. That’s the main problem with Tyson being seasick. It’s not that he has a fear of the water, it’s that he’s having a negative physiological reaction to his father’s sphere of influence. If Movie-Tyson had an irrational fear of water due to some past trauma (maybe a sea monster attacked him when he was younger or another traumatic event), I think the fandom would be slightly more willing to overlook that specific mis-characterization because it’s shown multiple times that demigods and children of gods can have irrational fears about their parent’s domain (Thalia, and others (I don’t want to spoil anything for you)), but the general rule is that godly children will be strongest in their parent’s domain (sea, sky, underworld, in battle, etc). A child of Poseidon would not get seasick just like a child of Zeus wouldn’t get plane-sick, a child of Hades would not get sick in cemeteries or in the Underworld, or a child of Apollo would not get sick from standing in the sunlight. Sorry for the info-dump, I just wanted, as a PJO veteran, to explain a bit more about WHY Tyson getting seasick makes NO sense, even with the knowledge that godly children can be afraid of their parent’s domain. Welcome to the PJO fandom, and I hope you love the books as much as I have!! I’m happy to answer any questions you have, just let me know!! 😊😊
“Disrespectful” is the best way to describe these movies. The studio just took the Percy Jackson name and haphazardly threw a junk movie together in a desperate cash grab. They knew there was a huge loyal fan base who were ready to see Percy come to the big screen and they totally took advantage of it
The one thing that i'm not seeing people mention that ABSOLUTELY TICKED ME OFF in the movies was Tantalus!! He replaced Chiron in the books and he gave Percy absolute hell to deal with. I was so upset when he didn't show up in the movie
After reading the books I was literally so mad at the movies, so watching someone roast the movies for 33 minutes is probably the best part of my day. I agreed with every single point made in this video. You know, maybe Morgan should be the one writing the script...
As a huge fan of Percy Jackson here’s what I have to say abt this. In my 5th grade class we read the first book and I was hooked. I LOVED it! Then when our class watched the movie we sat there disappointed. They left out SO many awesome scenes! Especially with Annabeth being more like Clarisee. Then I watched this and was so sad that they didnt include Percy and Annabeths relationship growth. I love how they subtlety throughout the books start to like each other. This didn’t even include them having much interaction. And I feel like no one is on my side with this but the series cast is messed up. The plot will probably be great but let’s be honest, all of the fans will have trouble picturing this cast with the characters.
Also, in the cafe scene they have a Hekatonkheire as a barista, one of only 3 in existence, 1 in these books because the other two faded away and Briares was the last left. Also heckatonkheires guard the gates of Tartarus itself to prevent the Titans from escaping.
Another thing that irritates me is that they DID read the other books, as they mention that Ethan Nakamura was on the ship. Ethan wasn't mentioned until the fourth book, as he was the final Demigod needed to rise Kronos
It was the only line in the entire movie that I could see actually being from the book. But maybe not Luke saying it. It made Luke almost comedic and I just can’t.
It was a funny joke, but it should have been somewhere else. It's pretty funny but it completely threw off the suspence that was built. I wish it was somewhere else
That and the 'Oh come on! That sounds like Clarisse. Nah, it can't be her. You ridiculously stupid morgon! Nope, it's her' Were the only parts of the movie i took my face out of my sweatshirt *moron. I don't know what tf is wrong with my autocorrect, but it thinks it's funny
Something that has only just occurred to me. The scene in the coffee shop established that the mist stops mortals from seeing things as they are (like in the book) but then Tyson said boyscouts saw him and got scared.... so could they see him as a cyclops? And if the mist is ever present, why did they even need the spray bottle version in the first place??
My friend introduced me to the series with watching the movies. At the time, I didn’t think the movies were half bad, and I couldn’t understand why my friend was so mad. The, I read the books. Wow. Now I understand. Great video!
Actually, the Cruise ship is actually much more important than we think it is because its kind of a big thing in Trials of Apollo Ain't gonna spoil but have you ever wondered where Luke got the 'sponsors who gave the money to buy a goddam cruise ship?
Riordan in the first Percy Jackson movie : Please, can you listen to me and stop ignoring the books, please ! Riordan in the second Percy Jackson movie : What are you ?! Deaf ?!!
Bro he emailed the directors and told them they where staying in line with his vision on both movies. And yeah things still happened they way it did because the film makers seem to have never read past the 1st book and even that is questionable
Easy fix for the Luke riding the wave scene is that Luke could have used some flying shoes that he took from Hermes, but even then it doesn’t fix the issues with the plot
1:37 Another example of a good voice over is the princess tale in deathly hallows part 2 when snape is voicing over stuff from the first film. It's a really well put together scene and what I think is better than how Rowling did it in the book.
It also annoys me about how they got Kronos's story completely wrong, not just because its in the books, but because its an actually Greek Myth that happened. It's already a Greek story that happened. It wasn't just made up by Rick, Rick got it from another true source.
Don't forget that they didn't have the Mist in the first one. In the beginning, that woman sees Poseidon walk out of the ocean in giant form(also, why have him walk to Olympus? He's a God he could literally teleport there!). Afyer that there was the wife who got turned to Stone by Medusa. The third time was the woman at the hotel seeing the severed head of Medusa.
I read a lot of Rick Riordan stuff but really put aside the percy jackson books because I was reading the other ones and I just forgot for a while. I instead watched the movies for convenience, I heard it was much more different from the books but I thought, "It couldn't be that far off". Few years later, I see this vid, and now, you just motivated a guy with barely any spare money to buy books to read five percy jackson books haha what a life
Just finished the book series. I’m so angry about how these movies are. I watched the movies first and WOW ARE THE BOOKS SO MUCH BETTER AND ACTUALLY MAKE SENSE when I started reading I had to like force myself to not think about how they looked in the movies. It was struggle. By how badly they messed up
I think Riordan's take still works though. I can't find any myths concerning Ares that portray him as caring towards women. It's more that there aren't many myths that involve him being particularly nasty towards women, compared to the likes of Zeus or Poseidon. It's also interesting to note that despite the Amazons being descendants of Ares and worshippers of him, they never seem to have any major military victories in the myths they appear in, if at all. So I think Riordan's take on Ares still definitely works.
the best was an interview with the cast and they didn't know anything about the books. a fan joked about blue food and all of them were so confused and asked how that was even significant which shows none of them bothered to read the books. the best part is when the actor for tyson (who read the books) realizes their mistake and fucking walks off. but one reason they didn't do a third was because logan lerman refused to continue
@@rainydeestar I would expect them to. If you're playing an existing character you should be doing research. The way an actor performs a script is a major part of how a character comes across, not just the words. It doesnt help that the script sucks too though lol
@@valinterahonestly no. the script should give actors everything they need to build their performance, without requiring reading the base material. If actor's need to have read the book to play their character it's a shit movie
@@mikiwilliams4133 How are they supposed to build their performance if they don't know the character they're portraying? How are they supposed to get the mannerisms, the attitude, the delivery right? It’s not just writing that makes a character, its also how they come across. Are they happy and cheerful? Moody and grumpy?
"Dont walk on my roof" is the best line in the whole film, its hilarious and totally seems like a thing that Luke would say when he isnt feeling all evil and doom and gloom. It is a bit out of place yes, but its still a great line. That and Dionysus saying, "you know the Christians have a guy who can do this trick in reverse".
I hope one day we can see the books get adapted in a way that's authentic to the books. I've never read the books, and I've only seen the first movie, but the two videos you've made, it's made the books sound very interesting and shows how bad the movies are as adaptations. Only time will tell I guess.
I love the way that in the Percy Jackson series each character gets their moment to shine. Rick Riodran gives each character a moment at some point to explain why they do the things they do, what or who they care about, and their motivation. The movies just completely ignores all of that. Also, this movie not only goes against the book, but also simple logic.
@@IvvyExists145 I mean I understand that to a certain degree. Some great adaptations like Clockwork Orange, Game Of Thrones (season 1-6) or The Shining deviate from the books and are still great. But the Percy Jackson movies arent even particularly good even if you haven't read the books. The first one is okay at best and they ignore a ton of important context and plot points for the series as a whole. It's like if you just cut out all mention of Voldemort in the first Harry Potter movie, and then he ressurected and killed Cedric in the second one.
@@tortoiseoflegends4466 It's worse than that, cause it wasn't only Kronos. Imagine watching that Harry Potter movie but they also removed Malfoy, then decided to bring him back for and give him chemistry with Potter, they removed the Thalia, and Grover's reason to be so protective of Percy, then mentioned her when they realized "oh she is actually important to the story oop." We don't have a problem when you change the story, the problem lies in making it worse and literally unfinishable because key plot pieces are just missing now.
As an OG fan who’s read all the books including Kane chronicles and heroes of Olympus, Bruh when the new Disney+ series comes out I BEG ITS GOOD PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD (ZEUS) I got hope
@@dominicbeen I loved that crossover! With the Setne cliffhanger in The Serpent’s Shadow I was so happy to find out Setne was the villain in Demigods & Magicians.
16:20 to further solidify this point, the movie itself shows Percy trying to use his powers before they're swallowed, and he can't. Because as Annabeth states, "Maybe the Sea of Monsters isn't in Poseidon's domain" which is also a stupid point.
I was watching this video, and I got an ad, and IT WAS THE DAM TRAILER FOR THE NEW SERIES. This is a sign from the gods that this series is going to be absolutely epic.
I’m so glad they never made a third movie, they would have made Nico blonde and evil or something. I’M SO JEALOUS OF THE HARRY POTTER MOVIES! (Also fun fact: Logan Lerman once said that he never even read any of the Percy Jackson books)
I'm not so sure that thats quite as bad as the people actually putting everything together not reading the books since the actors just take direction, but its still pretty lazy. If I was going to play a role in an adaptation, I'd make sure I was at least familiar with the character I was going to play and the basic outline of the plot.
@@marcusreading3783 actually some shows based off of any reading material, the director tells/advises the lead actor to not read anything about the character
@@jsjdhdhshshs7860 so functionally he's dead for the forseeable future of the Riordanverse. OSP made a good point when she said fates worse than death function either as plot removal or character drama, but I digress.
I legit forgot how awful these movies were, and I wish I could go back to not remembering. Still, good essays, and it lead to me discovering a whole graphic novel adaptation that I didn't know about, thank you for that!
I mean I enjoyed the the sequel star wars trilogy and the Hobbit films sure they weren't perfect but they were good but not the curse child that was just bullshit
One thing I have been thinking about since i saw the last scene with Luke and Polyphemus: if the movie had Luke die there, I will be SO. FREAKING. FURIOUS. frankly, it's disrespectful, both to the whole plot and especially to Luke's character arc. Not only would it mess up the whole plot point where he BECOMES KRONOS, but also him overcoming Kronos, LITERALLY KILLING HIMSELF TO SEND KRONOS BACK TO TARTARUS, and having Percy make the gods promise not to ignore their children anymore, it's so well written, I still cry every time I read it (and I've gone through at least 6 times now), and in the movie... I literally realized that they might have Luke die there DAYS AFTER I WATCHED IT. This movie has too much to rant about, I'm going to go spend my brainpower (haha here's me acting like I have brainpower to spend) on something that doesn't emotionally drain me *waves*
I gotta say, I didn't really get into Percy Jackson beyond listening to people rag on these movies, cause I thought it sounded kinda like fluff nothing at first glance. But now that I hear him explaining it in detail...I realize this book series is actually pretty damn dark. I don't really like prophecy stories, and I have a hard time reading due to ADHD, but it sounds neat! Especially Tyson, I love characters like that.
Oh I did an essay on how the movies sucked in 8th grade. They let us see the movie and then one month later had us write an essay on a book we were reading. Let's say I had counted everything bad they did in the Percy Jackson movies and was glad to share the knowledge.
Same, a neighbor named their kid Thalia but they pronounced it the English speaking way and that was all I had to go off of when I read it when I was younger so I didn’t know they said it wrong either
Thing is, several monsters being the children of the gods isn’t even Riordan’s universe’s rules. That’s going against actual mythology. Same goes with Kronos’s defeat after eating his children. Which means that them going against it makes the movie even more atrocious
I actually had faith in the second movie back then, don't know why the hell, but I went to the movies to see it. I was so fed up during the whole movie and when they made Kronos rise, I straight up walked out, and I wasn't the only one. I remember very fondly how me and a handful PJO Fans were outside the movies venting out frustrations to each other.
