This video should be on everyones youtube mat. I was in tears a few times because its just amazing how you guide us like that so direct and unconditionally.
I want to encourage everyone to watch this entire video through to the end and really consider the extraordinary depth and profundity of this message. Even contemplate the wonder and mystery of how it is that you are attuning to this message?
Absolutely love how practical these pointers are! I had a glimpse once in deep sleep (no sense of body, form, identity or locality, no thoughts, just seeing, nobody to see, nothing to be seen; felt exactly like dying). Ever since, the mind can't help but wonder what that would be like while the body is awake. Thank you so much for sharing these amazing pointers, Angelo. Much love💜
@@lamanade9789 A dream has content (images, sounds, sensations, feelings, thoughts, ...) and, most importantly, you are there as the perspective the dream is watched from. It was nothing like that. There was absolutely no content and whatever I used to call "I" was not there. There was no sense of personhood or perspective. Just a boundless, impersonal "seeing" (for lack of a better word, tbh I don't think words can properly describe this, at best what it's not, never what it actually is). Nobody "seeing" nothing. Try and picture that, if you will.
This reminds me, when I was about 6 or 7 I used to sit on a fence in the garden in the evenings sometimes and gaze into the sunset. I had a game of closing my eyes for a few seconds then opening them suddenly, and for a split second I would feel as if I was in the sunset. No distance. Of course, it didn't mean anything much at the time.
What a perfect new year's wish, thank you! I came to bed to listen to this at 11:48, the fireworks started going at 12 out the window and I could hear my partner and bro-in-law downstairs but I knew I was in exactly the right place 🙏🏻❤️ couldn't have wished for a truer star to the new year, thank you Angelo 🙏🏻❤️
Thanks. 🙏This sent me into sitting with some painful feelings I have been experiencing. And I realized that my thoughts reminding me of a samadhi as a means of soothing that pain doesn't help. Instead, it creates a thought loop.
This visual field seems to have a type of magnetic pull which is very visceral and applies to each item that is ‘looked at.’ It is like subject/object switching and the whole field takes on a density.
It is wished that I might send you the cards I painted (digitally) for the Yuletide - your constant guidance is ever a grand companion for so very many people, and I am hugely grateful.🍀🦋🙏
What perfect timing for this video. I was feeling into some deep emotions this morning as my body was telling me to during my morning meditation session. It seems to come in waves at times. Thank you for this video. Also, that is a perfect new year's wish. Happy New Year to you and your family Angelo!
Thanks so much for this Angelo. It seems to touch me at a new and different level although I can't say I am "grasping" it completely as yet.. I will need to listen again, I feel a longing for this type of very concrete direction, very happy for any suggestions of other videos or further ones you might create to take me farther in this more "experiential" direction. A wonderful New Years present.
This is a very clear and gentle introduction to body/emotion work and exploring our actual experience. There are some very powerful observations on how quickly and automatically the mind delivers a response and wants to move on to something else. I find deeply embedded beliefs difficult to identify and noticing this kind of movement of mind is like a neon sign pointing to some deep belief about myself or a situation. I also find asking myself "what can I really know for sure?" helps create a divide between beliefs and knowing....One side seems to be a thriving community, the other side usually ends up being a party of zero or one.
this pointing is so so helpful and relevant right now... thank you so much!! so many points of view collapse at once just as a natural shift without any drama (well, there is kind of "drama- thought", but it's seen as just another possible point of view as well :)) seems like it's all falling away just by the simple recognition that *they are all* points of view, and not real in and of themselves... who is watching all of this? what is not a point of view? i'll keep looking i guess. no rush. just exploring. where is there to go? how is "there" better than "here"? when it's all just points of view? thank you so much!!!
Similar to this message comes from Michael Brown, The Presence Process. Personally, I live in a mental state of "I do not know." And focus my mind on my body and feelings, centering on my heart and felt empathic connection with all life.
Very well said and very helpful, Angelo. Though I am a fan, I acknowledge that Daniel Ingram is a controversial figure in the Dharma scene. That said, I think he nailed it with this quote from his book, MCTB II, at the end of the chapter, “The Three Doors.” “People can easily fall into the notion that perspective itself is the problem, when actually misperceiving the sensations that make up the ordinary sense of perspective is the problem.” MCTB II, Daniel Ingram
I think that statement is right on the money, though I think he's talking about perspective in a different way than I am here. I'm using the word perspective in a non-common connotational way here. I'm really pointing to the 6th fetter (subject object construct).
Alright. I’m going to have another listen. I will confess that I listened while driving to work this morning. Let me give it another go when I get home and have less distraction. Thanks so much for the reply. 😊
Thank you, Angelo. Now I finally am starting to experience what Douglas Harding exercises were pointing to. It’s a slippery slope. “I” feel happy to get a glimpse and then chastise myself for my perspective. Lol can only laugh at the hall of mirrors!
Hi Angelo, Very interesting discussion about perspective….. I’ve experienced a couple of episodes… where my eyes glanced at my arm/hand area….it was weird as I don’t know how to describe it…. Like “that’s my hand? Yes, that’s June’s hand.” I appreciate the words you used to describe perspective because it gave me words to help understand the experience I had…you’re exactly right… it’s the perspective that was “different” for/from me/it….? I remember trying to stay in that moment/awareness. It didn’t last very long but seemed to “open” me(?) to something. Thank you. I very much appreciate you and your efforts to help us along the way. ❤
I dont know anything about anything anymore with any amount of certainty. Can you relate to this? It's paralyzing me and I feel so lost. I use to walk through life with a certainty that gave me the feeling of confidence in knowing that I knew. I meditate and reflect on life. There are too many variables seen and I know now unseen that I can't possibly know anything for certain. It's a helpless feeling.
Powerful experiential pointing. The view was seen clearly, the viewer dissolved. Equanimity reigned supreme! Thank you Angelo for your new year wish to all of us. It hit its mark here
Honest question, do I really even have control with what's going on? Now that I am on this path it doesn't seem like I even decide to be present, it just comes then goes... and when I am able to take a look it appears like there is sooo much, so much emotion, so much thought.. is this all me? I am such a little being... What's being a being even?
So I was staring at a door frame in my office while doing this inquiry and watching thoughts that label it, staying out there with it. I noticed after a while, briefly that the image became kind of psychedelic. It moved a little and the edge became kind of blurred.
I’ve had a couple of episodes where my eyes glanced down at my hand/arm, and there was a weird awareness that I now understand better from your discussion of perspective. That’s what it felt like…that my arm was being observed from a different perspective. At first, it didn’t seem like it was my arm, kind of like I was observing it for the first time…hard to explain but it was weird. I tried to stay in the moment, but it didn’t last very long. Is this an example of what you were discussing about perspective? I appreciate you very much and your efforts to help us along the way….❤
All questions are with respect to the visual field. Don’t answer with thoughts/concepts. 20:54 how else can this be experienced/seen, if not through the lens of self and other/here and over there? 24:57 where does subject turn into object? Are you really moving anything when you follow out from object to subject? 25:48 where is no distance? 26:30 comparing the center and the periphery, is there anything indicating subject versus an object ? 28:00 is there any evidence of apartness or distance?
I find it helps with this kind of exercise when I think- feel- imagine that all my senses, specially visual awareness, is literally happening inside my brain. Which it is! this is all a neurochemical experience inside our brains. The first time it happened with me was sudden and quite strange. But I was still 'in the middle' of the experience so it didnt seem to help much after a few times of doing it. I can switch into it easily now but so what? It inevitably fades and I am back where I started 🤔🤨😏
At a baseball game right now. Looking at the pitchers mound sometimes the dirt section of the infield seems to disappear and be replaced with grass (which surrounds the mound) By no means the first time I've seen some along these lines, is this something you'd expect while doing these exercises? Or do I need to see a neurologist lol
this is what i been going htrough last year or so, except there is no such thing as me and there is no such thing as going through anything! lol :D damn it's hard to talk about these tings! haha
Doesn't asking myself "what am I feeling?" conflict with the approach of "not doing anything with emotions"? It seems like they are mutually exclusive approaches: if I answer what I am feeling I am engaging in narratives and dig into beliefs, if I don't do anything with emotions I'm just wordlessly embracing them and giving space to the sensations. Is it possible to do both or are they meant to be done at different times?
Really depends on your level of insight and comfort with emotions. Like Picasso said, you have to learn to do art properly before you can re-forget how to be an artist and just paint. The mountain is a mountain, then it isn't a mountain anymore , then it is a mountain again. However you cannot skip the journey just because it is uncomfortable.. so it really comes down to your own authenticity and deep congruence :)
