Shaq & Charles Barkley Get into Heated Argument - Inside the NBA | May 6, 2021 

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Yep, and you can't tell which role players will deliver in clutch for championships until top tier players GET them there, and give them an opportunity to.

@@jamesward6898 the 5%

@@jamesward6898 Billups and Ben?

Charles is wrong. The Raptors won the championship just 2 years ago with one (1) SUPERSTAR and Others. Yes Kyle Lowry is a great veteran but he's never been a Superstar outside of his popularity in Canada. Detroit Pistons beat a team of current and former superstars in 2004 without one single Superstar on their team. Why? because the Laker's (Others) did not do enough to hide the mistakes of their superstars. LeBron's second ring (2013) would not have been possible had it not been for an Other (Ray Allen was definitely out of his prime at the time). Dirk the only superstar at the time (Jason Kidd was way past his prime) in 2011 championship versus 2.5 superstars. Mavs Others stepped up big time.

10000 right

Chuck always spitting facts! Kenny IMO always saying random things in the hopes that it makes sense, and shaq is hard headed as always lmao

Oh so you're going to consider Chris fkn Bosh in Others??

No he's just making excuse for him not winning anything in the 90's and wants to downplay what KD and all those guy are doing. He is salty while Kenny as a champion can tell it's not just about the stars.

@@S200. spot on

Bruh

That's the most insanely accurate thing I've read

Facts

Those friends are annoying, spineless cowards.

@@bernardohernandez2620 you got that right bro!! Tap dancing man pleasing trolls that be out here to please everyone

Bosh was no average all star

@@yobro6053 a little above average but he was the “other” on the Heat let’s be honest

@@m_n_m7322 yeah because of the system lol if he got as many touches as Wade and Lebron he’d probably be more efficient but they made him into a spot up shooter

@@Ninjersey1 fax look at the games wade and bron didn’t play bosh would drop 30

@@m_n_m7322 Bosh was more than a little above average before he joined the Heat. He knowingly took a more back seat role to Wade and Lebron

True, but he did step up big time when he was needed from his superstar. That's the difference between a championship and not.

Sometimes Kenny tries too hard to appear smart

@@joolz6991 ...sometimes? Lol Charles is 85% of what makes this show enjoyable, if not outright watchable. And it's not even close.

@@blakehansen8284 agree!!

Facts, I felt what Kenny said was true.... in the 90s. But for today and the past 20 yrs, ring have been won with 2-3 SUPER star players

That’s why his bum ass never got that coaching spot he wanted

@@lakersin556 You acting like Shaq

@@lakersin556 Hey, Mr. Sensetive...

Kenny says everything but nothing. That dude on many occasions dont even know where he is going with his point lmao.

@@lakersin556 was he the reason for those rings or was hakeem. Kenny was a other

Lol lol

🤣🤣🤣

Lol 😂

Charles: Zion is a young superstar Shaq: “You never went back to back, Chuck, you don’t know”

Shaq- Thats what I thought! Aaiiighht then!!!!

No, that's not the 'only reason'. For one, Shaw played mediocre teams in the finals, plus he got beat by Hakeem's Rockets, so it didn't take Jordan to beat a Shaw team. Also, we'll never know what would've happened if the Bulls had played Houston. They'd have no answer for Hakeem, the Rockets had the better bench, plus the Rockets swept the Magic team that beat Jordan and the Bulls in the playoffs.

@@kevinlakeman5043 seeing how you intentionally misspelled his name to mock my comment, I can’t take anything you say seriously. It’s also obvious you weren’t around at the time to witness the bulls at their peak. Be gone!

The magic beat the bulls because grant left and jordan was out of shape. They wouldn’t have beat jordan if that was the 91-93 or 96-98 bulls. Grant and rodman made a difference, they were the defensive anchor of those teams underneath. The bulls had a good bench with Kerr, Paxton, kukic. They beat the 93 suns who was the best offensive team the league had ever seen at the time. Suns should have won championships but they couldn’t stay healthy and westpal was clueless on coaching the defensive end.

@@kevinlakeman5043 the finals might have been easy but the west was 🔥 so don't do that. Look at the WHOLE picture. If it wasn't for refs cheating, Shaq would be singing a different tune

Both of them got carried Shaq was the #1

Lol! He made it seem like that was a very mysterious question

It's simple, the stacked teams win Championships! No other comment needed. Lol.

*giannis

Or maybe because he was playing with Westbrook🤔

well see this year lol

Word. But I think what he's tryna say is others can be great too.

Kenny wasn't even good enough to be an Other. Robert Horry, Sam Cassell, and Mario Elie made the big plays on that Houston team. Kenny Smith was the 7th best player on that team. Dream, Horry, Cassell, Thorpe, Elie/Drexler, Maxwell, and then Kenny "the spineless boot licker" Smith.

Right but I also feel like it almost kinda proves Charles point. What was Kenny before Hakeem? What was he after? I feel like Charles would argue (if Kenny wasn’t in the room) that if it wasn’t him it would have been Cassell or someone else who’d be sitting next to them, thanks to Hakeem. Put Hakeem on the Cavs and maybe Mark Price is sitting next to Barkley?

Kenny knows that he wouldn’t say otherwise

That got 2 rings

I see it as a complement. They know he's right, so they try to tear him down. That's how I see it, I could be wrong.

I completely disagree, Charles only standing points are “YoU NEeD SuPErStars” they not disagreeing but you can’t say you need superstars. You still gone need the OTHERS to deliver ! Charles just want cushion to make his argument or why he ringless

And it is funny how yall stay sucking on Chuck's nuts. Chuck is incoherent, dude made no sense this segment.

He knows there's some truth to that. Can't avg. 12 PPG and be considered a 'star' player in a playoff run.

😂🤣😂

@@kevinlakeman5043 exactly! Bosh had moments but Bosh wasn't carrying anything in Miami. He knew his role as the “other”.

@@kevinlakeman5043 what big you know is usually the go to scorer?

@@Rangelong Im not a Bosh fan but he did come through when it matter during the playoffs game.

@Eonian Sage so did Charles. So

@@BILLINICO Kobe, D Wade, Penny, Horace Grant , Payton, etc...

😂 he does!

Riding on coattails of Kobe and Lebron.

@@BILLINICO maybe his rookie season. He really carried the Suns against the bulls.

Michael Jordan: Sorry Chuck

What's weird about his voice 😂

@@EnzoPepsiCola ask yourself that question. Then ask yourself again lol

@@cameronmetz9933 I probably got used to it

@R That Southern accent

@@EnzoPepsiCola I see what you mean, personally been around a lot of southern people myself, never heard anyone sound like Barkley, that’s why I say that. But do I care how he sounds? Course not. I’m just explaining what others think and don’t want to admit. He’s not very articulate so people think he’s stupid, which in some cases may be fair for true loudmouths, but not Barkley. What he’s saying, (his logic) is sound 95% of the time, he simply can’t speak very articulately lol

Defer, but yeah.

Chuck has been there (the finals), he just didn’t win... because... MJ.

Chuck has been on the other side of the coin though, being a superstar who only had "others" and no star partner on his team when he was in his prime.

@@GabeCerebro not just because of MJ. Can you tell me the name of anyone else other than Chuck on that Phoenix Suns team ? On the other hand I can name quite a few on that Bulls team other than MJ such as Pippen, Paxson. You take those guys away, MJ ain’t winning jack sh*t . Case in point - MJ ‘s Wizards.

@@slimshady2100 Phoenix suns had the best record In the league that year man. Why even hate like that?

He knows it’s getting old. If barkley had Wade and kobe he’d have at least two

Google me chuck

@@edwardnigma9037 if* which means it didnt happen which also means there leaves room for more what ifs* and that opens the door for more room for possible failure...we seen superstars not mesh well n not win all throughout sports history

I know right, he uses that alot for the wrong reasons, cause he knows that chuck or whoever is right about what they're saying.

@@47hundo86 But chuck was a monster... he was giving troubles to the best teams in that era, its not even a if at that point with Kobe, Those two alone would be scary as hell with a solid team and would guaranteed win.

YES! Respect Sir Charles!

Exactly.....people are clowns

barkley also said the warriors wasnt going to win championship with small ball before they won the 1st one

ganninia This Just In: people are wrong sometimes

Joker is still the MVP, that's what

True but he does have some crazy takes 🤣🤣

@@powaman5963 wouldn't call them crazy. More Hilarious than crazy lol

@@powaman5963 not really

Chuck just mad old man all the time😂😂😂

@@powaman5963 not as usual as people make it seem. When it comes to his arguments with Shaq he usually has the most sane arguments like 95% of the time which is why Shaq always resorts to the rings 😂

perfect response

The first time I heard chuck be so right

Chris Bosh: 11x All Star, *1x All NBA second team!* Vince Carter: 2x All NBA (in 21 seasons? Wtf) 8x All Star. All Star selections are meaningless unless you're also All NBA. I hate when people mention all star selections. Usually means you weren't on any all NBA teams which means that you're overrated

@@tropicaldepression3459 you don’t watch this show regularly do you? Chuck is 95% of the time right when he argues Shaq lol

@@tropicaldepression3459 never head him say anything wrong

He was a other that stepped up in big times most threes in the finals

Kenny"others that can deliver"smith 😂😂😂😂

Yeah but you're not considering the impact the superstars had generating easy opportunities for the "others". GS hardly doubled LeBron in that series at all. They chose instead to let him isolate and take away his teammates. Hard to get your teammates involved with defenders draped all over them. On the other hand, the Cavs were often sending 1 or 2 extra defenders at Steph, even off the ball. That gravity was opening up a lot of easy looks for the role players AND Durant.

Charles is wrong. The Raptors won the championship just 2 years ago with one (1) SUPERSTAR and Others. Yes Kyle Lowry is a great veteran but he's never been a Superstar outside of his popularity in Canada. Detroit Pistons beat a team of current and former superstars in 2004 without one single Superstar on their team. Why? because the Laker's (Others) did not do enough to hide the mistakes of their superstars. LeBron's second ring (2013) would not have been possible had it not been for an Other (Ray Allen was definitely out of his prime at the time). Dirk the only superstar at the time (Jason Kidd was way past his prime) in 2011 championship versus 2.5 superstars. Mavs Others stepped up big time.

you don't win chips wth 2 superstars and a trash roster/bench. What did Jordan do before Pip and Jackson got there? Or even Grant ?

@@marcmorr8 exceptions aren’t the rule .. lebrons 2013 still had wade and bosh .. you can use ray as an “other” but they had wade and bosh(grabbed the key rebound to kick it out to ray) .. teams win with stars plural

@@marcmorr8 Detroit pistons, you are right, but don’t act like ray allen is a other. There is a reason why he is considered one of the best 3pt shooters in the era where three point shooting was not the meta in the nba. 2011 Mavericks while they didn’t have any all stars besides dirk, they still had a lot of talent and experience. Tyson chandler was not an other, Shawn Marion was not an other. And dirk during that playoff run was like two mvps put together so to a certain aspect I understand where you are coming from but mavs weren’t bums that year besides dirk.

@@marcmorr8 that 2013 one doesn’t fit your argument. That leaves you with 3 examples of all the championships that have been won. Of course there will be anomalies but that doesn’t take away the fact that Chuck is right

Don’t like shaq he comes of as ignorant. Just saying.

Everyone knows shaq is one of the most self centered guys of all time, the only highlights shaq has in shows are when he gets mad or falls.

They whack except kenny and earnie

@@MrGreenBeanBeenBeanin Shaq can be pretty arrogant but in this case he's right.

@@hanssolo8918 hes a certified lawyer,has a PhD and has more wealth than you’ll ever see in your lifetime....

I promise you he takes zero shame in being a starter on championship teams 😂😂😂

Hes a champ he did his part did his roll no shame at all he a legit champ

Bingo

Man you are right

I’m not seeing your point. He was an all star.

Ong it never gets old 💀

Thats y they put the date in the title

Although this argument didn't get nearly as heated as some of their past ones.

There is only one honest possible exception I can recall that beat a superstar riddled team, That was the 2011 mavericks. Ironically they totally rampaged 4 in a row with simply a aging Dirk and no counts at that point. And those no counts basically shut lebron down, clowned d wade at times. Oh and swept them. This was a miami team that buried an up and coming bulls team that was headed for destiny alongside youngest MVP ever D Rose. And they got steamrolled.

@@mellykruger9495 that’s because Dirk is a Top3 PF.

@@mellykruger9495 LeBron threw the series. My first rebuttal to Chuck was the 2000s Detroit Piston but they had Mr.Big Shot and Ben Wallace. Chuck is 100% right

@@mellykruger9495 The last time Pistons, Mavs, Raptors, and Spurs won. I say Spurs and Raptors because they only had one superstar.

Bruh

Was Drexler on the team when Houston won the their titles?

Drexler wasn't in his prime

Lol no way in hell was Clyde in his prime in Houston.

@@ballinboxer3676 he was more in his prime in Houston, then KD is in Brooklyn

@@atimorales the same KD who is putting up 28 on 54/47/88 whilst returning from an Achilles and also missing 40% of the a shortened season?

This was postgame, lol, but yes, Ernie did say after the break that they had never stopped talking lmao.

It’s better than most NBA games Lol

@@MylotheZooLovingScientist clearly says halftime report on the screen

Lol music just playing in the background 😂 😂 😂 😂

So an other that can make a basket is equal to someone who can’t make a basket.. gotcha.

It’s true, Chuck is the MVP of NBA on TNT. Shaq is still playing the commentator game like a rookie!

Leggo

Charles always gets acknowledged as the GOAT former player turned TV personality. Part of why Shaq has gone after him so much, he wants that title. Especially when Shaq first joined, he was trying to be the alpha. But he's starting to mellow a bit realizing that it's out of his control.

@@dechenthurman2708 Both are annoying af.

He does have a few Emmys to his name

😂😂😂

Sponsored byyyyyyy.... Oh, Hennessey

😂😂

Well done

In the last 30 years... Detroit and Dallas... It's and exception.

3 superstars or 2 superstars? If it's 3 superstars, then last year Lakers won with 2 superstars.

@@richrich876 How many examples are you allowed before your exception bullshit is called out? PS: Raptors only had Kawhi!

@@minzyailee3023 he said 2 or 3.

@@mediacenterman8583 they only had Kawhi but they had such depth that it was like having other super stars.Lowry and van fleet played like stars and so did siakam plus they probably don’t even win if not for warrior injuries

You must be 12 because kenny Smith was not on the bench smh.

Kenny was on the court as the starting point guard you casual

You nailed it bro. Charles carries this show the way Kobe and Wade carried Shaq in big moments.

Kenny is a giant leftist Democrat so there’s that... easily manipulated

@@thsu8 watch your mouth bum

@@mijo5964 if you don’t stfu and go protest in Hong Kong

Because Kenny just wants to be on the side of the argument that gives him props. Inevitably when Shaq gets triggered he will bring up rings and acknowledge Kenny as a champion if he sides with him. I have seen Candace Parker show more of a fight and use her own brain than Kenny does.

Facts curry nem literally built from scratch. Can’t hate it.

every lebron championship

He's not. There have been superstar champions. But there also have been championships where the "others" played a key role. Raptors was the most recent

@@harsha8976 yes but raps would’ve lost had KD and Klay not been injured, you can’t not figure in circumstances but that still proves chucks points that you need a great player, Kawhi was that player.

but barkely said the warriors wasnt going to win a ring with small ball before they won the 1st one. he hates the warriors

Word lol always gotta throw that in there smh 🤦🏽‍♂️

It did. Kenny said Shaq was right because Shaq has "been there".

Rrriiiight. Never a follow up with 2nd or 3rd 😂😂😂😂

chuck is wrong..you don't need to have the best players to when the title...and if you do have them you will still need your bench to produce..

toronto were stars? mavericks? 03 pistons?

@@abdihassan7208 yes, they had Kawhi, Lowry, and Siakam. One superstar and two stars. VanVleet "stepped up." Turns out he's just a near star caliber player the next season, so he didn't step up at all. He's just good. Pistons and Mavs are 2 championship teams in the last 20 years. You're going to need more examples to make a point

@@fangiscool1 I made my point. None of those were stars from the beginning. Charles is wrong and so are you

@@fangiscool1 plus he forgot that Mavs had a lot of stars players who passed their prime ( Kidd, Stojakovic, Butler, Terry). Pistons had a 3X DPOY with Ben Wallace, the Sheed was an All-star, just Hamilton and Billups wasn't yet. But like you said it's only 2 teams

Everybody forgot their 2nd unit is a good support team, Iggy, Livingston, Mcgee, Barboza, David West

Yeah but they also acquired pieces especially KD who I believe was the beginning of the end of their dynasty

Unlike the nets

@@jeremybrown9611 yes maybe ur right on that they gave away a few parts to get kd and then kd injury allowed the space to be shown in their defence plus cosuin was injured as well and he was meant to help in the kd injury absence

Well obviously there are only few duhh u can get it done with 1 superstar but a player can be a superstar one year abd be great and win and cant do it every year that 73 win team they wanted it they planned it it they won once. And that wouldn't happened again

Beside both teams had dawgs pistons had R.I.P Hamilton Chauncy billips Rasheed Wallace and Big Ben. Def not a team with jus one star and a bunch of bums . And mavs had a veteran Jason kidd a solid Tyson chandler and a good enough Sean Marion . Both still teams that couldn’t jus win it all with one person .

Precisely because he lacked "others". Shaq and Penny lost to Hakeem because Hakeem had the better team.

@@blanktrigger8863 that more proves Chuck right tho, because when he had kobe and wade he which were better stars

@@AnthonyVex I don't see how. Hakeem was by himself like Dirk but won because he had better others. If Chuck was right then Shaq and Penny would have won based on star power alone.

Lol

Orlando shoulda won but they were too young at the time. If shaq stayed they coulda had a better chance later on like 1999 or 2000

@Tyler Meis 😂

"Those aliens ain't even averaging 30 and 10, bums"

@Tyler Meis now that's funny...lol😅😅😅😅

6 games bro...not 7

6 games not 7

Let's be real. If we swapped Charles and MJ, the Suns aren't beating the Bulls. Chuck was playing on a sorry team and was a runaway MVP that year.

@@j.r.fernandez2453 How old are you? How was that Suns team sorry when they had the best record in NBA?

They were though, Shaq was 33 Karl Malone 40 Gary payton 38 only kobe was the young bull and fisher.

@@ohhhyeahhh1174 it was a different era too, there wasn’t twenty 1 and done players coming out every year or aG league. The league was an iso scoring league and the average age was much higher. Pace was down and defense was important. Also Malone was past his prime for sure but Shaq wasn’t just some washed up scrub, just out of shape. That 04 Pistons team was legit though would’ve beaten the Suns or Spurs, they were a couple seconds away from winning back to back against the Spurs the next yr till Sheed fell asleep on D 🚫🧢

@@spencer8699 That Horry poster against the pistons is what sealed the deal for that spurs chip i know he had a game winner but it was the poster on rip hamilton that sealed it for me, even though it was one of the worst viewed finals i watched it was one of the most competitive, plus the spurs were much younger then the Lakers finals appearance, and no Shaq was not washed old but he was starting to show his age and of course he was overweight.

Kobe had a off season in 2004 because of his case and had a bad finals and Malone got injured.

Nah fr bro

KG*

@@Bankai2169 good looking out

He can thank Kobe for that

@@marketingpro2856 Kobe can thank Shaq too

Both right yup

Here’s where I beg to differ. Remember when the Raptors won it in 2019. As much as you want to argue with me, Kawhi was the only true superstar on that team. Lowry was aging, Siakam was still up and coming, and NO ONE knew he’d be an all star the year after. And same goes for Vanfleet. Kawhi averaged over 30ppg almost a third of the teams points. Not to mention they played and beat a warriors team with 5 ALL STARS in Curry, Thompson, Durant, Green, and Cousins. Argue with me all you want but that’s not changing my opinion

Well mabey but Khawai is elite Lowry could nick down shots it was just a bunch of solid talent and warriors were injured it came down to who was healthiest that year healthy warriors beat raptors so under prestine conditions I still need more than one star plus Toronto was pretty good defensively but in today’s super team nba u do

@@ethancluck7507 idk kd klay and wasnt curry out of cause of injuries idk raptors did not fight the full strength warriors to me

@@ethancluck7507 but i think that was Chuck's point. You aren't winning without a transcendent/top 5 player. We have a few exceptions in history like the 04 Pistons or the 11 Mavericks, you could count the Raptors but Kawhi was a top 5 player that year IMO. The Raptors always got stuck before the finals when they only had Lowry and Derozan who were stars, but then they upgraded to Kawhi the next year and that propelled them to the Championship and I think that was what Chuck was trying to say. You aren't getting to the Finals or winning the Finals unless you got one of those guys or a few of those guys. You can have "others", but every team has "others". Not every team has that superstar/transcendent talent. That's why a team like the Raptors couldn't get over the hump until Kawhi. That's why no one could get past Goldent State or Cleveland for half a decade years. That's why no one in the East could beat Miami. Because none of the other teams had Lebron. None of the other teams had Steph and KD. That's why the Heat lost to the Lakers last year. They had no one who could match Lebron or AD. Yes, others make a difference, but it's really the superstars that drive the car and bring the team home.

Miami had Bron, Wade & Bosh, but could not take down Dirk and the others!!!!

Coincidentally that almost was the case! During that draft. The Rockets had the 1st pick and picked hakeem The 2nd pick the blazers picked a bust sam bowie Jordan went 3rd to chicago The rockets had got the 1st pick the year before and had a good center (who career ended early because of injury) The blazers had drafted clyde drexler the year before The blazers offered the rockets clyde drexler and the 2nd pick for their good rookie center they drafted the year before. The Rockets could have had Hakeem, Jordan and drexler as rookies for someone who career ended like 4 seasons later

@@DJ.Generation get outta here with your lies

@@beanteam2217 it's not lies lmaoo

@@DJ.Generation Imagine such a roaster with The Glide The Dream and His Airness ! 😱Game Over ! 2 decades of dominance !😅

San Antonio Spurs are also a good example

That’s probably the only team I can think of that had one star and good role players and won I mean they had Kidd I don’t think he was a star player than and chandler but he wasn’t a star either

That's true. The Mavs that year were an inspiring team. But then again, the next team to not have at least two superstar level players and win it all didn't come until almost ten years later with the Raptors. The "others" and coaching definitely matter, but more often than not it comes down to, "my best players are better than your best players".

@@robhodge1890 spurs are the best example

But those Spurs team had at a minimum 2 top tier players too which strengthens Charles argument.

Pascal wasn't an all star until 2020. don't count him

So another long "LOST" friend I see😉

Not really. The 04 Pistons got the BEST DEFENDER Ben Wallace, the BEST PERIMETER shooter Rip Hamilton (moves without the ball), ELITE point guard Billups, ELITE defender Tayshaun Prince and an agile in and out scorer and also a good defender Rasheed Wallace. Lakers did not have a chance cause they are a newly built team. They arent used to play with each other then plus the fact that they are not in their prime.

@@gunman9131 not to mention a great coach

@@gunman9131 That 04 team was the only Championship in the last 30 years without an MVP on the team its a Terrible example

@@gunman9131 also the pistons are the only team to ever do it winning it in 88 and 89 also

That team is well-balanced!

Not carried. He is too big

cocktails 🤣

Cocktails lmfao

Pause

He carried kobe clown. Shaq has 3 fmvps while playing with kobe.

Only team to ever Win a championship without an MVP was the pistons and they did it 3 times

Isiah Thomas was a superstar in the 80s. Billups will end up in the hall of fame and Ben Wallace won DPOY like 4 times plus their whole core was basically all all star caliber and some of the best one on one defenders ever.

The Mavs were the 2nd best team in the conference and top 5 team all year and ended up as the 3 seed because of the tie breaker. People act like they were a rag tag 8 seed that miraculously won it all. That team was stacked and will end up with Dirk and Kidd in the HOF, Marion borderline, and TC being a DPOY plus some of the greatest role players ever like 6moy jason terry.

@@oscillon5406 God damn Lebron apologists even try to build up the mavs to make it sound like when the 73 win warriors got together. Dirk is all time for sure, but the rest of the team was role players bro, pure and simple. You can sugar coat it all you want. They had 3 players TOTAL that averaged 15 or more ppg, and Dirk was 1 of them with 23 a game. Marion averaged 12 a game, what a fucking stud. Man, I can't even believe the bullshit you're spouting here, it's fucking offensive.

@@trollanonymously2434 exactly the Mav wasn’t supposed to win and the73 win warriors was overhyped

I kind of agree but I think shaq is right. For the teams that had the best players they also have players (others) that deliver. Would Miami win without Ray Allen ? He was way past his prime but was delivering. Same with Draymond Green and Igoudala they were key others who made that GSW so great. You take one of them an replace it with another other who doesn’t deliver then they don’t win the championships

Shaq - 28/12.5/6.3 on 59.5% shooting Hakeem - 32.8/11.5/5.5 on 48.3% shooting That's pretty close to balancing each other out. Perhaps Nick Anderson missing four free throws at the end of game 1 played a bigger role in the series going only four games.

@@leafsrule4life one game shouldn't be the reason u got swept tho

@@ljayydagoat7113 I don't think you realize how ridiculous what you just said is. Do you realize how many series' ended up as 4-1? All of those were "one game being the reason a team didn't get swept🤣🤣🤣"

@@leafsrule4life No, it wasn't balanced out. There's a reason why Hakeem's Game Score was significantly higher for the series. There's a reason why Shaq had a Negative Net Rating per 100 possessions for the series (Penny's was positive). There's a reason why Shaq had 7 TOs in Game 1 and 6 TOs in Game 4. There's a reason why Shaq had a Negative Box Plus Minus for the series (Shaq's was -1.9 while teammate Penny's was 5.7). I watched the whole series, the Magic were my team, and you could feel Hakeem having more impact than Shaq for the series, which is reflected in the Impact metrics. Just listing surface stats like Pts/Rebs/Asts and saying they balanced each other out is about as surface level as you can get.

@@back2back379 whew. Church. Nice break down...props

😂😂😂

Shaq is smart

@MALAKHI WILK wow

Who is we?

@@micahjohnson425 ur mum?

The most poetic way to describe what I’ve been saying for 15 years of watching inside the NBA. Kenny isn’t in the same zip code as Charles and shaq. He was the definition of “other guy” his whole career. But he talks like he’s a GOAT.

Exactly

But u guys rather listen to Stephen A, Skip, or a Head Coach that played less minutes than Kenny. 🤷🏾‍♂️ The best players was so focused on themselves they don't see the game the way the "THE OTHER'S" see it. That's why they make terrible coaches. Kenny is the smartest one on the show breaking down basketball.

paper airplane 🤣

Wad of paper

Chuck a sucka Flatout

What he’s wrong about?