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Shocking? Running A/C for hours, 2021 Ford F-150 Hybrid Generator 

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In this video, we test out how much gas we use with the 2021 Ford F-150 hybrid generator via the Powerboost hybrid. We let the F-150 generator run for several hours to see how much gas it uses to run the A/C on a camper.
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@davva360
@davva360 2 года назад
So glad I found this video. When I first saw this truck on TFL I thought this would be a game changer for people with campers. Interesting to see someone testing it.
@texasbradley
@texasbradley 2 года назад
You were correct it's a game changer for sure, bye bye gas generator
@redbaron6805
@redbaron6805 2 года назад
For anyone interested in the math on this, technically a gallon of gasoline contains 33.7kWh worth of energy. So, if you had a theoretical (but impossible) generator that was 100% efficient, you would be able to get 33700 watts out of every gallon of gas, or enough to run this camper for around 13 hours or so. Gas engines are around 17% efficient on average, plus energy losses in charging the battery, inverter losses and heat losses in the cables, etc. All in, you should be getting around 4 to 5 kWh worth of electricity from each gallon of gas. Since the truck has a 30 gallon gas tank, one could probably run the camper 50 to 60 hours of day time use with the A/C on, and probably closer to 120 hours of total use between day and night. So, 5 days worth is probably a pretty good estimate...
@Flash1857
@Flash1857 2 года назад
Might have a low fuel cut off, that way the truck won’t be left with an empty tank.
@colinpovey2904
@colinpovey2904 2 года назад
BTW, this is why Tesla's crush gas vehicles in 'fuel economy'. Gas vehicles run around 15-20% efficient efficient, with newer, smaller engines running better, closer to maybe 30%. Tesla custom engineered motors will out accelerate any car on the market, and are around 96% efficient.
@redbaron6805
@redbaron6805 2 года назад
@@colinpovey2904 Exactly. The combustion engine is around 35% peak efficient at a single RPM, but is only 17% efficient on average. Electric motors are over 90% efficient, which is the reason why you can have the performance of a Turbo V8 or a V12, yet have better fuel efficiency than a small 4 cylinder engine...
@F239141
@F239141 2 года назад
So about the same as an on board Onan generator would.
@redbaron6805
@redbaron6805 2 года назад
@@F239141 Probably. Gas to electricity conversion using an engine is probably pretty similar between engines. Diesel engines should be slightly more efficient due to higher energy content, but other than that, the process should be about the same.
@timkavanagh2872
@timkavanagh2872 2 года назад
Set the truck on eco-idle, runs at higher rpm's for a shorter period of recharge.
@katierunnberg7997
@katierunnberg7997 2 года назад
I just got my F150 Hybrid last week and cannot wait to attach it to my trailer when I get it next month. Already I love the power in the back for charging batteries on the road. I'm 50 years old and 120 pounds, and a solo traveler, so not having to constantly deal with 2 45 pound generators is great for me! And I also won't have to worry about locking them up at campgrounds. Win all around for me! Great video, thanks.
@jimmymike1881
@jimmymike1881 2 года назад
Thanks for the confirmation review. Use my powerboost to run my moveable shop out in the woods...band saw, table saw, drill press, planer etc. Hate noisy generators. I often run it all day. This truck is fantastic. Amazingly the truck has a better tow rating than the first generation F-350 power stroke crew cab srw it replaced. The generator and the tow rating sold me. Have tested both extensively as described and hauling nice loads of lumber and logs. Great ride too! I would have been happy with an XL with vinyl and minimum creature comforts. But, got talked into a Lariat. Nana likes it so it was worth the extra bucks. Last...it is so nice to drive up to a drive through or talk to a neighbor without having to shut the truck off. On the road unloaded I average about 25mpg. Towing my trailer loaded about 13. Great truck. Love the quiet. Love the utility. Love always having an emergency generator tuned up and ready to go.
@MarkRVillano
@MarkRVillano 2 года назад
For the hard core, extended stay boon-docker, this coupled with solar and extra water in the bed seems like a killer set-up. With a composting toilet, the only limiting factor would be running out of food.
@skidoomxz550x
@skidoomxz550x 2 года назад
I'd like to see someone run it for at least 8 hours. Fill up before and after the test to know exactly how much fuel it used, and what it cost. I think that would be the best test to see how efficient it actually is.
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 2 года назад
Impossible test really with way too many variables. I did this test during the heart of the day because an overnight test has just too many variables. What happens if the weather changes? The temperature drops? The wind picks up? We turn down the A/C because the camper holds the cold air better at night? Running it during the day for a set period of time shows the worst case scenario. You can take the result and multiple it by 4 to get the 8 hours of the test, which I talk about, and you'll see fuel usage will be around a quarter of a tank, if that, like I said.
@skidoomxz550x
@skidoomxz550x 2 года назад
@@Pickuptrucktalk I don't agree that it's impossible at all. I mentioned an 8 hour test because I don't believe a shorter test would use enough fuel to give an accurate result. My point is that it would be nice to know that with the AC running how many litres of fuel you can expect the truck to burn. As an RV owner and frequent traveler this would be valuable information. Especially when boondocking for a week. That way you can decide whether it's better to use a standalone generator, or the truck from a cost perspective. The problem with your test is that you went off of what the EVIC displayed for miles to empty. This isn't reliably measurable in terms of how many litres are burned. Also, based on the data from many other RV owners theres no where near ¼ tank of usage after only 8 hours of run time. I've enjoyed all your videos on the Powerboost, and had been looking out for this one for a couple months since you mentioned it initially. I was just bummed that the litres per hour powering the RV AC still hasn't been tested.
@cybertrk
@cybertrk 2 года назад
@@skidoomxz550x problem is SOC of the battery at start and finish would need to be calculated. Also you’d have a variable load… you’d instead need to run constant loads like heat guns
@skidoomxz550x
@skidoomxz550x 2 года назад
@@cybertrk Not really, the battery has such a low capacity that I don't think it would make a difference. Based on all the data I've seen the truck runs for about 4 minutes with the engine off, then about 1 minute with the engine on. So even if you're fully charged in the beginning it'll drain it back down in approx. 4 minutes. Cranking the AC right down would give you a constant load. Even better would be to test it on an average weather day in your area. Let it cycle on and off at whatever temp you typically set it to. That way you can get the cost on an "average" day. This would allow you to assume for "X" amount more or less on a warmer or cooler day.
@billypippin3046
@billypippin3046 2 года назад
I left my truck plugged in for three days in generator mode in Iowa in August. I think I used a 1/4 tank of gas. 30 foot camper.
@thomasdipaolo2349
@thomasdipaolo2349 2 года назад
Thanks for the info. Btw, rv camper is 30 amps at 110 volt not 220-240 volts. Another words same as residential house outlet just more current available at 30 amps vs 15-20 amps. I mention this so watchers dont plug their RV into a 220-240 volt outlet and detroy all the electrical in the RV ;)
@51AB
@51AB 2 года назад
The rv plugs will not fit into a 220 volt outlet. The 30 and 50 amp plugs are also different. Good catch though.
@armegeddonschildren
@armegeddonschildren 2 года назад
My first thought when he was saying he bought an adapter! Haha
@AJP2565
@AJP2565 2 года назад
Did he not say that it was a 240volt 30amp twist lock to 120volt 30 amp adapter? I've watched something similar to this on TFlL Trucks, but with a dual 50amp adapter. I work in water so I have no clue about electric other than hooking up pig tails for plumbing appliances.
@cameronkeegan4480
@cameronkeegan4480 2 года назад
@@51AB not true actually. I had a contractor install a 30 amp plug on my house, but little did he know that that meant I needed 110 even though I specified it was for a camper. Everything ran fine for about 10 seconds, until my convertor started smoking. I lost the fireplace and microwave, but fortunately hadn't turned on the AC.
@51AB
@51AB 2 года назад
@@cameronkeegan4480 I'm sure what you're saying. I've installed many 30 amp RV servuces. The 30 amp RV plug is completely different than a 220 volt dryer, stove or welding outlet. There are only 3 terminals on a 30 amp Rv plug. Hot, neutral and ground. If your electrician hooked up two hot 120 feeds no wonder everything blew up.
@DS-TRUCKS
@DS-TRUCKS 2 года назад
😳 there's nothing better on the market! Ford is amazing!
@kdcarver
@kdcarver 2 года назад
Thanks for running this test. It helps people get an idea of how the system would work in the real world... including forgetting your keys in trailer.
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 2 года назад
Yeah, well I really thought I had my keys with me!!! LOL
@bostonblueguy
@bostonblueguy 2 года назад
awesome video, please post more of these onboard generator videos. love them!
@bantizzle79
@bantizzle79 2 года назад
Thanks for this video. Very useful to prospective buyers.
@mcdowellkoselzopoulos1680
@mcdowellkoselzopoulos1680 2 года назад
Thank you so much for making these videos. I absolutely love watching.
@Johnny_Bee
@Johnny_Bee 2 года назад
Great demo test, thanks
@mohnster4000
@mohnster4000 2 года назад
Thanks Tim! No days off 👍
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 2 года назад
Always hustling!
@bump_draft
@bump_draft 2 года назад
It's also hot because that giant glass sunroof is open, closing it will make a huge difference.
@oldmanfromoc7684
@oldmanfromoc7684 2 года назад
The windows on the camper are open also!
@googleuser2170
@googleuser2170 Год назад
The 7.2KW pro power is one heck of a package to be honest. I saw another video where the truck actually used less fuel over an extended period of time than a gas Honda 5.5KW generator.
@ellomirza
@ellomirza Год назад
And it’s not a separate item, and it doesn’t make a loud annoying noise constantly, and it has emissions equipment unlike a generator that just pollutes unabated.
@smithssillyscience4156
@smithssillyscience4156 2 года назад
Wow wonderful video. I am sold. I just need to wait until I can afford one.
@markpontes4457
@markpontes4457 2 года назад
Even if the engine idled the entire time you would burn less than a gallon an hour, I'm retired police officer and we would have the cars running all shift 8hrs they only burn 5 or 6 gallons in an explorer. If the A/C was running it on the car it would burn almost double that.
@colinpovey2904
@colinpovey2904 2 года назад
Which is why the NYPD LOVES Ford Fusion Hybrids. Most police cars run constantly. I don't remember the numbers for amount of gas only saved (they save not only gas but less maintenance as well), but their actual comparison figures that that, even allowing for the higher initial costs, the Hybrid cars saved the NYPD more than $10,000 per car over the typical 3 year life of a squad car.
@diaperdood1
@diaperdood1 2 года назад
@@colinpovey2904 so the climate control runs off the hybrid battery?
@fivecrosses9040
@fivecrosses9040 2 года назад
This is great content👍
@OldAndGettingOlder
@OldAndGettingOlder 2 года назад
For future reference if you do another test... Using a Bluetooth OBD2 adapter and the TORQUE app you can read your fuel level in a percentage. In other words, a digital fuel gauge. Maybe Ford's diagnostic mode will show a digital fuel gauge as well. Anyhow, more accurate than using miles remaining.
@IATG-tl3jf
@IATG-tl3jf 7 месяцев назад
Thanks. This was exactly what I’ve been looking for.
@marklickfeld6477
@marklickfeld6477 Год назад
Great video Just got a Powerboost and will be dry camping this week. Looking forward to trying this
@byronhowe6753
@byronhowe6753 9 месяцев назад
Best video yet thank you
@Adiscretefirm
@Adiscretefirm 2 года назад
Winter will even things out, but now in August I am a little jealous of any place that describes 85 degrees as a typical summer day. That would be a cold snap here. It's 81 now and it's almost 10 PM.
@kentmahan9391
@kentmahan9391 Год назад
Boondocking in Idaho, running the ac in 95 F weather, I was getting a cycle of 8 min on the hybrid battery, 2 min running consistently. This past weekend in Laramie I used 2.3 gal of gas in 10 hours running time. 2022 Lariat Powerboost.
@simplywanda1065
@simplywanda1065 Год назад
Hi, what options do you have on the truck and what did the payload turn out to be? TIA
@davidhillbrand2302
@davidhillbrand2302 2 года назад
Hoping to see a Super Duty Gasser with the built in generator / Hybrid.
@jaysson1151
@jaysson1151 2 года назад
Duuuude, you ain’t kiddin! Imagine a 7.3 gasser with a bigger, beefier electric motor and battery. Of course Ford will introduce it RIGHT after I purchase an F150 Powerboost, knowing my luck.
@whiteboysixty5
@whiteboysixty5 2 года назад
They need to make a diesel hybrid, way more efficient
@michaelsylvester7272
@michaelsylvester7272 2 года назад
Hi Tim, This is a big score
@wilmarbarrick3194
@wilmarbarrick3194 2 года назад
It's been 25 years since Tim boasted he could go all day and night... well except for getting out of a sand trap... that could take a while.
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 2 года назад
lol
@gabrielsasala1875
@gabrielsasala1875 2 года назад
This is incredible, my uncle just got a Chevy 2500 and an airstream, and had to by a huge generator that is super loud, and I asked him why he didn’t just get the F-150 with the powerboast he didn’t even knew that this car existed
@dor1tomcswagger69
@dor1tomcswagger69 2 года назад
They do have generators that are quiet no need to buy a truck when you can buy a generator for $2000 😂
@jonromero4406
@jonromero4406 2 года назад
@@dor1tomcswagger69 yep, and storage batteries are better than ever these days as well.
@Yan7001978
@Yan7001978 2 года назад
That's awesome!
@shirleygorre6003
@shirleygorre6003 2 года назад
I was there when your winter test failed and was waiting for you to do this again sooner rather than later but couldn't wait. Got my own F150 Power Boost and our little 9000 btu trailer and boondocked over night twice at Cracker Barrel coming and going with a 30 amp to 110 adapter and worked great. Love our truck! I want to get my hands on your adapter tho so I can use that plug too!
@coreybutler23
@coreybutler23 2 месяца назад
Thank you for this video sir - you are the man!
@ryanmccormick9905
@ryanmccormick9905 2 года назад
Good video. I saw this option and as a Ram fan boy thought that is best new option for a truck. If I get back into Camping will have to look into this. AC at night at some of my favorite camping spots where at 10:00 pm quite time starts but that thing does not really make any noise sound like a win to me. Hope to see some more videos like long run and gas used and then maybe a portable generator comparing to this in gas usage.
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 2 года назад
Check out the playlists from the home channel page. Got 30 videos on this truck.
@Jakereviewsall
@Jakereviewsall Год назад
I have a 22 powerboost but have not used the onboard power yet, thought about trying it this weekend.
@djaftermath4313
@djaftermath4313 2 года назад
This hybrid is a game charger. Just think, that it's Ford's first try at a hybrid half ton. Should only get better from here!
@michaeldobson8859
@michaeldobson8859 2 года назад
Stupid idea when a $700 quiet inverter generator can do the same as your $50,000 truck. Dumb and dumber
@stephennorth8309
@stephennorth8309 2 года назад
@@michaeldobson8859 That truck was probably a lot more than 50,000. I am failing to see any efficiency here. inverter generator is the way to go.
@aarona3228
@aarona3228 2 года назад
@@michaeldobson8859 That generator will be much louder and require separate maintenance and refueling. Most campsites we go to don't allow using a noisy generator at night. A generator can't replace a pickup but this pickup can replace a generator. IIRC, he said this was a $750 option...
@yankeedoodle7693
@yankeedoodle7693 2 года назад
7200 watt inverter gen only runs 8 hours on a tank. At.one point ford advertised this package running for 32 hours at max load. Considering the cost for a truck with a tow package to begin with, being able to fill up, tow to the spot, hook up, party all weekend, and drive home with no refills, no gascans, no gen constantly running at night, seems like a good option for people who would like to utilize it. But you'll need to enjoy it while it lasts, I don't see much for internal combustion in 10 years.
@djaftermath4313
@djaftermath4313 2 года назад
@@yankeedoodle7693 Yeah, ICE cars/trucks are going slowly going the way of the manual transmission. I'll miss the personality of them but I'm sure EVs will develop something as a replacement. I'm curious as to how those nostalgic EV car meet ups will look in 40 years lol.
@robertfalzone6397
@robertfalzone6397 Месяц назад
Thank you
@kansasadventure1831
@kansasadventure1831 Год назад
That's a neat truck. I'm full off grid so that would be nice to have
@TheJasonVoorhees
@TheJasonVoorhees 2 года назад
I got the 2kw pro power plenty for small trailer
@evquietcornerct3210
@evquietcornerct3210 2 года назад
i've been testing mine extensively over the last 2 months.....my camper is also a 30 amp hookup......i use the high idle option, for better turbo health....with AC on, and other draws for charging battery bank and whatnot, 2200-2400 watts is the average draw.....cycle times around 1 min idle, 6. mins battery only.....
@kdcarver
@kdcarver 2 года назад
Paul, you wrote: "i use the high idle option, for better turbo health." Can you explain this mode?
@evquietcornerct3210
@evquietcornerct3210 2 года назад
@@kdcarver in the settings area there is a choice of idle settings when the engine is idling and charging the battery. select high idle to be on. it idles the engine at about 1300RPM's, vs. the normal idle of aroung 900RPM's.
@mikefoehr235
@mikefoehr235 2 года назад
I wonder if the new Tundra will have something similar to this truck. No noise power is great for an old guy like me. The older I get, the more i love silence.
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 2 года назад
Silence is golden. I'm completely with you there.
@mikefoehr235
@mikefoehr235 2 года назад
@@Pickuptrucktalk 👍
@robertheinkel6225
@robertheinkel6225 2 года назад
Quiet until the battery needs recharging. Engine will start up frequently to keep batter charged up.
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 2 года назад
@@robertheinkel6225 the truck doesn't make that much noise at all.
@jackharding98
@jackharding98 2 года назад
I have a 3.5L Eco boost V6 in my 2013 F-150. I live in Alabama and run my AC while parked for hours. I burn a little less than a gallon per hour of fuel with my engine running and the AC on full cold (Using an Xguage to measure fuel consumption). Your gas guage wouldn't have noticed just two gallons in your test. Really appreciate your test though, very good info. I may have to upgrade my F-150 to a Hybrid. I pull a travel trailer and that inverter feature would be great.
@jasonguy6572
@jasonguy6572 2 года назад
Yeah but in 2 hours his truck would have only ran for 24 minutes or so It would be off the rest of the time. It cycles on and off. He used maybe 1/3 gallon or $1
@WisconsinDIYGuy
@WisconsinDIYGuy 5 месяцев назад
​@jasonguy6572 Glad you pointed that out. Hybrids run only when the battery gets low. I use a Prius on some group campouts for lights, fridge coolers and tent usage. At 100-200 watt draw Engine runs about 4 mins per half hour for 3 to 4 days straight. I dont even notice the fuel usage.
@joshn3448
@joshn3448 2 года назад
I would already have one these powerboost trucks if they had them on the dealers lots!
@LandParkColby
@LandParkColby 2 года назад
I am just SO impressed with the F150 PB ... imagine if and when GM and RAM finally get into this action!
@redbaron6805
@redbaron6805 2 года назад
I don't think either one will duplicate this. GM is focusing on an all electric Silverado. The battery would probably be in the 150kWh range as they are claiming 400 miles of range. The Ford is claiming around 230kWh worth of total energy available at peak load on the 7.2kW generator. I haven't seen any hints from Ram or Chevy they are planning any Hybrid trucks, except for the mild Hybrid available over a decade ago.
@secretsquirrel572
@secretsquirrel572 2 года назад
Looking forward to a 50 amp generator being installed on the F350/450 models to run the big fifth wheel units.
@Brandon_Neil
@Brandon_Neil 2 года назад
Woah, hadn't even thought of this option. I hope that ends up being an option
@secretsquirrel572
@secretsquirrel572 2 года назад
@@Brandon_Neil it would make pulling into a truck stop a lot nicer. Just turn the generator on and go to sleep.
@martinroncetti4134
@martinroncetti4134 2 года назад
Agreed. Last September (2021), I was looking at purchasing a F350(XLT) and asked the sales rep if Ford was planning to add a generator to the Superduty series. He checked and he informed me that, at that time, Ford was not planning to. I am hoping that Ford changes this decision.
@WisconsinDIYGuy
@WisconsinDIYGuy 5 месяцев назад
It wouldn't make sense unless they did a hybrid f350. The battery is a buffer for the generator. Minus the hybrid battery the engine in a regular truck runs 24/7. Then a regular generator with idle down is a lot more economical.
@secretsquirrel572
@secretsquirrel572 5 месяцев назад
@@WisconsinDIYGuy so adding a battery pack and a generator to the PTO option of the transmission wouldn’t work? Seems like a great idea. I hate pulling off at a Loves and not being able to run my air conditioners.
@jaceski5806
@jaceski5806 2 года назад
No longer “how many miles?, now its gonna be “how many hours?”
@willlowe1301
@willlowe1301 2 года назад
Thanks nice video. Any ideas on how to properly set up a transfer switch to power part of your home during a power outage?
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 2 года назад
Hire an electrician and then go to Home Depot or any other store. There is an exterior plug you can install outside your house and then bring into your breaker box. From there, you need a power transfer switch in the fuse box.
@willlowe1301
@willlowe1301 2 года назад
@@Pickuptrucktalk I have a 2022 F150 Hybrid ordered. I got the 7.2kw one also. Have zero idea when it arrives, but really looking forward to getting. Again thanks for your video.
@CraigSmith568
@CraigSmith568 2 года назад
This is the first option on a new truck I would actually like to have. I need it on a 3/4 ton with a standard cab eight foot bed and with the 7.3 engine.
@Chumbucketsecret
@Chumbucketsecret 2 года назад
Nobody needs the 7.3. At that point buy a diesel. Why would you want less power & to spend more on gas?
@CraigSmith568
@CraigSmith568 2 года назад
@@Chumbucketsecret $10,000 buys a lot of gas.
@TheCrawdaddy029
@TheCrawdaddy029 7 месяцев назад
Even if you never end up using it you may as well get the 7.2KW generator if you get no other options. Its one more option that will help resale later. That and 4wd was the only 2 options i got on mine.
@TiktokBrandoniMacaroni
@TiktokBrandoniMacaroni 2 года назад
Man I could of used this truck this past weekend in the Adirondack mountains 🏔
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 2 года назад
Definitely has its uses.
@jeffarthur322
@jeffarthur322 2 года назад
Good thing you got a power source. Was 95 degrees when we were there and shore power kept going out. Rattle snake in bathroom and we are out of here . Second worst campground ever
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 2 года назад
Yeah it’s not that great of a campground.
@jeffarthur322
@jeffarthur322 2 года назад
@@Pickuptrucktalk understatement , makes our state parks look good
@Pistolmike59
@Pistolmike59 2 года назад
So you are only using 1 leg of the 240V plug. This is evident on the truck dash display where the wattage only shows a draw on the right gauge. One would think you could also plug something in to the 120 V plug that draws on the second gauge. You could run a coffee pot or other device off of an extension cord and it wouldn’t affect the 30A circuit draw. Is that correct? You could draw up to 3600 watts on the 30 amp plug and up to 15 amps on the 120 plug?
@hinesburgk17
@hinesburgk17 2 года назад
You could run two RV’s off that truck 1 on each phase. As you are only using one side(phase) of that generator/inverter.
@simplywanda1065
@simplywanda1065 Год назад
I got that this was a 3.5L PB XLT with max tow package. What is the payload and with what options added please. I have been trying to figure out how to max payload with wanted options. Is it possible or probable that you can get anywhere near 2000 payload?
@DirtRoadRemedy
@DirtRoadRemedy Год назад
Does the average trailer need the 7.2kw or is the 2.4kw plenty for a trailer?
@PNWLiving1725
@PNWLiving1725 2 года назад
Can you please give info on toy hauler you pulled. I got the standard towing, 11,000. Wondering how heavy it was to pull that toy hauler.
@jasonguy6572
@jasonguy6572 2 года назад
Do an all day test for us please! I’ll put 5 on it :)
@AlignmentCoaching
@AlignmentCoaching 5 месяцев назад
Great video. Does the 7.2kwh use all of that no matter what is being powered or does it limit how much is produced based on the demand?
@AlignmentCoaching
@AlignmentCoaching 5 месяцев назад
I’m going to answer my question and say no it doesn’t require using that power…since I watched you video entirely now :) I’ve got a truck choice between the 2.4 and 7.2 and just didn’t want to overkill with the 7.2 but it sounds like it’s good flexibility
@michaeldobson8859
@michaeldobson8859 2 года назад
I don’t know why this is so special. So you run your $10,000 truck engine and your $8,000 battery bank to power your trailer AC and refrigeration plus a few LED Lights. When you could have purchased a 3500 kw inverter generator at Harbor Freight for $700.00. How does this even make any sense? Just an add for Ford.
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 2 года назад
In my view, inverter generator is louder and you have to make sure it starts plus have fuel and space for it. This is just much more convenient.
@d21mike
@d21mike 2 года назад
Did you notice Fumes? I have a Tesla and I like being all electric. But I love the range of this truck. I had thought maybe turn the truck around so the fumes would not go into the trailer?
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 2 года назад
I didn’t notice fumes at all. New trucks aren’t like old trucks at all.
@MB-ho8ns
@MB-ho8ns 2 года назад
I cant wait to see what sort of early issues he has with the particulate filter the truck engine must be equipped with...I dont think you can simply let modern engines run at idle for hours on end without having problems in the exhaust filters early on. Maybe a high speed drive or two would clear it out, maybe not. Ive only experienced this issue with diesels, but I noticed the last car I bought in 2019 had a gas engine and an identical particulate filter as my diesel model had....got to imagine it will screw it up similarly.
@brysonburl2035
@brysonburl2035 2 года назад
I have a 2013 Ecoboost 3.5 f150with 190.000. I idle at least 8 to 14 hours 5 to 6 days a week. It runs as smooth as my 2020 2.7 Ecoboost f150
@lisahiler3230
@lisahiler3230 Год назад
Considering getting the F-150 XLT specifically for the powerboost capability. Thanks so much for this video. Do you happen to have the options and specs of your truck posted anywhere? Thanks.
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk Год назад
Sure. It is on the website at the bottom of this post: pickuptrucktalk.com/2020/12/bought-2021-ford-f-150-powerboost/
@JohnSmith-ev1sm
@JohnSmith-ev1sm 2 года назад
Great video! I love the idea of on board power, now I just have to wait until Ram or GM puts that into their truck. I wonder what that kind of idling does to the engine though long term. Probably cant be that good for it? If a coffee maker cycles the gas engine that quickly, that can't be good also, need a bigger battery or something to run longer between cycles and just cycle less often.
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 2 года назад
No issues with the engine long term so far in the past 10 years we have had hybrids.
@sg1friz
@sg1friz 2 года назад
I idle my F150 up to 8 hrs a night when on the road working. No problems 6 yrs and running. Although mines a 5.4 L 1997 hahaha 😆!
@MrChuff12003
@MrChuff12003 2 года назад
Tim, did you try having the trailer hooked up to the generator while towing? That way when you get to the camping spot the trailer is already cool. I thought that would drain the gas but this video proves is probably wouldn't.
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 2 года назад
No I didn't. In order to do that, I'd need to somehow attach the cord to the RV so it doesn't fall off on the ground. Not my trailer, so I can't do anything permanent to attach cable.
@turdferguson2839
@turdferguson2839 2 года назад
I'm interested in buying a F150 with the regular ecoboost and the 2.5kw generator, I wonder how well that would do in this test? The generator is a great idea and makes a lot of sense.
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 2 года назад
It would just take more fuel with the lower power output.
@TobyCostaRica
@TobyCostaRica 2 года назад
The other problem is you have another item to carry and maintain. They are much louder than a truck idling too. I have a 3500 watt inverter genny for home back up but its a PITA to run it every 1-2 months, oil changes, etc
@jeremysmith9868
@jeremysmith9868 2 года назад
Alright, so I dropped a comment on your next video before I watched this video asking about the pickup battery's Ah limits. After watching this video, however, I am concerned with the pickup running out of fuel while in generator mode. Is there a safety shut-off for the generator mode that leaves enough fuel in the tank to allow you to drive to a filling station or do you need to leave a small gas can in the box to ensure that you are not stranded at some boondocking site?
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 2 года назад
Yes, Ford says it will shut off the generator mode when the fuel gets low. My sense is around 50-100 miles of fuel left, it will kick off. I’m not sure of the exact number.
@kdcarver
@kdcarver 2 года назад
I noticed on the dash readout that you have 2x 3600W guages (an "A" and a "B") -- this adds to 7200, but does this mean can you only service 3500W max to a single 110VAC circuit (either A or B)?
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 2 года назад
that's a good question. Frankly, I never once plugged every outlet in and checked what the screen showed. I just used it as I would typically.
@toyota420xp
@toyota420xp 2 года назад
The range might change after you take it for a drive for a few miles
@JavierRivera
@JavierRivera 2 года назад
Hey, I am looking for a powerboost for the same task, the problem is the payload of the F-150, what are the aspects of yours and payload? I need at least 1,800 to be able to tow an airstream with a dry tongue weight of 875, and loaded could be up to 1,095. How you can tow that one that is 745 tongue weight?
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 2 года назад
I think this one was 1,400 lbs. When I towed with it, we only had the family in the cab and we had like 100 lbs to spare.
@Andi_Doci
@Andi_Doci 2 года назад
You should pop the hood if you plan to run it for long hours, this way it helps keep the temps down, and less radiator fan on time to save gas.
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 2 года назад
You know it turns itself off and on right?
@Andi_Doci
@Andi_Doci 2 года назад
@@Pickuptrucktalk I did watched the video, I know. But, incase you run it with more load it would save the engine and accessories if you let the heat out. Lifting the hood is free.
@gerrygalvan7313
@gerrygalvan7313 11 месяцев назад
How did the truck do pulling that trailer?
@Pilot545
@Pilot545 2 года назад
If I still had our Jayco I would DEF be trading in my 2018 Platinum for a 2021!! This really changes things for boondocking. Like you said, no more embarrassing loud generators! And you’ll never want for wattage.
@ernestjohnson1807
@ernestjohnson1807 2 года назад
Until you need to drive your truck and can't have power at camp when you do. Or worst the Ford reputation catches up with you and that truck is in the shop for a week. Then you are buying power or going without.
@Pilot545
@Pilot545 2 года назад
@@ernestjohnson1807 lmao. First, if I’m driving my truck while boondocking, I likely don’t need power for the time I’m away. Second, I currently own a 2018 F-150 Platinum (in case you missed that part) with the 3.5 EB and 5 Star E50 tune since new. Zero problems. My next truck will be another Ford. Try your hate on somebody else.
@martindriver6026
@martindriver6026 2 года назад
Just got me a 2021 powerboost. I dont know about using it to run my RV or my home as the sales person said I can. I am to old school, I think I will continue to use my Champion generator. It is light weight that I can carry and it will run everything. I think my problem is frying the trucks electrical.
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 2 года назад
You can't fry the truck. It will stop providing power if it gets too hot.
@martindriver6026
@martindriver6026 2 года назад
@@Pickuptrucktalk You are most probably right. Its just me. There is so much on this truck that it is overwhelming for me. Young family members that checked it out cant believe everything it does. I just found out the tail gate lowers on its own. I had bought on a whim because my 2013 had broke down while on vacation, so I just bought this one and I was in a hurry to get back home, so the salesperson just went over the basics with me. Hell it might even fly. I dont know😃
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 2 года назад
@@martindriver6026 I can confirm it doesn’t fly. LOL. It is quite the technology in the truck. You’ll get the hang of it.
@ernestjohnson1807
@ernestjohnson1807 2 года назад
Is sounds good until dad takes the truck to fish at the lake and the camper is left without power until he get back.
@jimmywarren6685
@jimmywarren6685 2 года назад
Need to remember that using it to power camper will have an effect on oil life...it will need to be changed before the odometer reading that was set for the next oil change as oil life is determined by hours of engine run time...we just normally use mileage as the marker for service.
@mototodd
@mototodd Год назад
No the truck calculates the oil life based on the viscosity of the oil itself not the odometer. Miles no longer matter it actually tests the oil.
@jimmywarren6685
@jimmywarren6685 Год назад
@@mototodd I never use the vehicle computer for determining oil changes...I use mileage. I know mileage works and I trust it...I don't trust the computer as I see how inaccurate the gas mileage computers can be as compared to miles/gallons calculations.
@noniespam
@noniespam 2 года назад
Man oh man Tim,,, this truck seems to fit right into your lifestyle.. Towing, powering up the camper, I don’t know how the hell you can trade this in??? But I have an idea, trade in your wife’s vehicle, give her the F-150 and get yourself a different truck for the channel…. That way you still have this little gem in your family. AND you can continue to report on the F-150 as the miles pile up.. You would have a two YES two truck channel…. Can you imagine that??? Do it Tim, just do it…..
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 2 года назад
Someday the channel will be big enough to support two trucks. The other, real challenge, is putting miles on both trucks as well as all the other vehicles I drive all the time.
@noniespam
@noniespam 2 года назад
@@Pickuptrucktalk Good problem to have Tim.. Keep up the great work.
@Network-Mike
@Network-Mike 2 года назад
How did plugging the camper into 220v not damage anything? Does the adapter only use one leg of the power (3600w)?
@markbrown6849
@markbrown6849 2 года назад
Yes, only one leg, he has another video detailing this.
@nicolasdesposito2362
@nicolasdesposito2362 2 года назад
Does your f150 have the max towing package? I'm going to tow an RV around that size and weight. Should I be worried?
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 2 года назад
Yes max tow. You need to check your trucks payload and towing limits. Get a weight distributing hitch as well. After that, it’s all about learning, experience and getting comfortable.
@jghall00
@jghall00 2 года назад
Torque app and OBD reader can read the fuel level.
@cptgroove
@cptgroove 2 года назад
I like your videos. You seem like an average Joe like me.
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 2 года назад
Thanks!
@user-ux2dv7vf7t
@user-ux2dv7vf7t 11 месяцев назад
I bought the 30 amp adapter and when I plugged it into my camper I got a grounding default message. Did you ever run into this issue? I looked on the F154 on and there are multiple people that have had this issue.
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 11 месяцев назад
Never had this issue, sorry.
@anthonygasparini1734
@anthonygasparini1734 2 года назад
Thanks for the video Tim I am torn between this truck and the Lightning!
@BarryMDHo
@BarryMDHo 2 года назад
The challenge for electric trucks is the significant range drop with load or towing. Range can drop by half or more with heavier loads/tows. Then add very cold or extremely hot climates, winds, uphill grades, and voila range anxiety to the max. Lastly, all that and try draining your Lighting battery further by plugging your rv into it. The Powerboost is arguably superior. Even better, having the Powerboost come with a 5 kWh or more battery (reduce generator run time).
@Iwo26
@Iwo26 11 месяцев назад
How much energy could you use without using the engine running ?
@itimebomb89
@itimebomb89 Год назад
I just want to point out your amp math. It is correct BUT it's only correct when you are using a 120v system. Like house power. If you go to a 12v system it will be 12v per amp or a 220v system it will be 220w per amp. It's called ohm's law. I would recommend checking it out instead of always using the 120w per amp calculation. Basically Voltage = current (amps) x resistance. So with a little algebra you can calculate it to watts= Amps x Volts.
@IseeIrony
@IseeIrony 2 года назад
Great video. Thanks. Now, if someone wanted to add a bed cover to the truck and lock stuff inside would there be any easy way to route the power cable out of the bed without modification to the cover? In other words, is there any cable routing exit by the outlet panel, etc?
@lisaw4239
@lisaw4239 Год назад
Did you ever find a way to do this? I was wondering about this myself.
@MyBrandography
@MyBrandography Год назад
Isn't there an issue in using 220 Volts into the camper? Guessing the camper is rated for 110. Am I wrong about this?
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk Год назад
Yes, 220 is too much power.
@jtr82369
@jtr82369 11 месяцев назад
Holy crap that AC unit draws a ton of watts for only 13.5K BTU
@jtr82369
@jtr82369 11 месяцев назад
also, coffee pot actually takes a lot of juice, those resistive heat elements draw a quite a bit. I think Ford needs to add a 5kw battery instead of that little 1.5kw, I run a lot of stuff for 2-3 hours on a 5kw so 10kw would be amazing on this truck.
@jamesmccabe3050
@jamesmccabe3050 Год назад
Constant fire up and shut down on oil that never warms up makes me wonder how harsh this would be on a truck used by the hardcore weekend warrior
@21trips
@21trips 4 месяца назад
How many kWh per gallon?
@tommymilazzo1932
@tommymilazzo1932 2 года назад
Hey Tim wondering if you had an answer to an odd question I had. Say something in the hybrid system failed ie the battery or motor. Could the truck still be driven as just a regular ecoboost f150 or will it not be drivable without the hybrid system working?
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 2 года назад
Hmm… not sure. I’d imagine the computer has a limp mode setting if the hybrid system fails.
@tommymilazzo1932
@tommymilazzo1932 2 года назад
Thanks for the quick response! Yeah we do a lot of extremely remote camping and stuff out here in Utah and love the idea of the inverter generator and technology for what we do. Just don't love the idea of having a hybrid system that I wouldn't know how to work on if something went wrong in the middle of nowhere. But I'm sure the engineers thought of this and at least made it so you could get home if the system failed.
@ernestjohnson1807
@ernestjohnson1807 2 года назад
Get a separate generator. This is a gimick that will leave your camper without power anytime you need to drive. Also if your truck goes down for any reason you are buying power or going witout until it's fixed. Save yourself from future problems.
@JohnSmith-lw2bm
@JohnSmith-lw2bm 2 года назад
Can you drive and make power at the same time if needed?
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 2 года назад
Yes. The truck will ask you to confirm there is something plugged in, but after you hit ok, you can drive.
@markfountain4149
@markfountain4149 2 года назад
The truck keeps turning on because you have the ac set to 65 degrees. So in order to get and keep the trailer at that temp the truck will run alot.
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 2 года назад
That was the point. This was a worst cast scenario test.
@PNWLiving1725
@PNWLiving1725 2 года назад
Did this one have a tow package or standard package?
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 2 года назад
Tow package.
@marccole8345
@marccole8345 2 года назад
My favorite part is when he noticed the red 01 Chevy gaser 2500.
@LMRKTL
@LMRKTL 2 года назад
Does that adapter actually switch 220 to 110? Was surprised to see that. I was shocked to see he didn’t melt down the camper electrics.
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 2 года назад
Yes, it drops one of the legs.
@henryford2736
@henryford2736 2 года назад
What kind of fridge is in the camper? 12V or dual gas/electric? Is it running while driving?
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 2 года назад
Running on batteries while driving. Dual gas and electric. Not sure on volts.
@henryford2736
@henryford2736 2 года назад
@@Pickuptrucktalk check the temp inside the fridge when you leave and when you get home. They need the 30A plug to be plugged in to run in electric mode. It's only the control panel that works on the batteries. People switch them to gas when driving but then you are driving with open flame. They invented the 12V fridge that runs on batteries all the time. The gas/electric needs the 30A plug to be plugged in to run in electric mode.
@flybyairplane3528
@flybyairplane3528 2 года назад
@@Pickuptrucktalk Those are ABSORSION UNITSlp gas, 12v dc, or 120 when at an RV HOOKUP they need to be level for them to work, 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@bohenderson
@bohenderson Год назад
A typical gas generator and most likely the F150 can produce about 10 kW-h of energy per gallon of gas. 1,700 watts or 1.7kW for 2 hours is 3.4 kW-h. That is the equivalent of 1/3 gallon of gasoline. My guess is that you burned around 1/3 gallon for 2 hours. Or 1/6 gallon per hour. Or 6 hours per gallon. with a 30 gallon tank it should run 180 hours but that assumes AC on all the time. Most likely AC is off 50% of the time. That should handle you for a week of camping. By the way, I believe the Powerboost is a much better option than the Lightning.
@warrenpuckett4203
@warrenpuckett4203 2 года назад
It takes 6 gallons of 87 octane to run a 8000 BTU casement a/c unit, refrigerator and TV 8 hours with 90F ambient set for 74F. That is with a 500CC OHV 1cylinder generator. Th A/C unit is about 800 Watts.. Cooling about 1100 sq ft of space. So 74F close to the A/C unit and 80F away from. Comes in handy when the energy company decides to shed load because they just dismantled the coal fired back up power plant. AS why such a big generator (9000 watts continuous)? Well I was going to just wire it into the house and run it off natural gas. BUT that would cost 5 x as much as the generator. That does not include the permits needed. The housing to keep it out of the weather. And re-enforcement to keep from growing legs and leaving. That Ford is really efficient electricity producer. But you can't just plug it into the house. Don't want to to back feed. So you have to disconnect the main fuses or breaker 1st. That is where the expense come in. It has to autosense on and off and automatically disconnect to and from the the grid where I am located.
@Berzilla
@Berzilla 2 года назад
can you get this truck with the 7.2 gen and a 36 gallon tank ?
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 2 года назад
Nope.
@CroakerOutdoors
@CroakerOutdoors 2 года назад
Just found out about this, great vid. Does Ford have an app where you can remotely turn off the generator via your phone?
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 2 года назад
Yes.
@CroakerOutdoors
@CroakerOutdoors 2 года назад
@@Pickuptrucktalk Excellent. Definitely a great help when camping/RVing.
@andrewalaska
@andrewalaska 2 года назад
Engine running 5-10 times an hour at
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 2 года назад
Sure, but larger battery = more weight = less payload = less overall towing. Happy medium.
@oof_Dad
@oof_Dad Год назад
@@Pickuptrucktalk What type of battery does it have NMC or LFP? My only concern is the charge discharge cylces on the battery. I assume they are smart and cycle the battery only to 80% but LFP would handle that cycling much better than NMC. Is there an options to just run the engine straight to not cycle the battery and starter when you have larger consistent loads? Great to have auto mode like shown for intermittent/light loads, but also nice to not wear out the battery and starter for larger loads...
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk Год назад
@@oof_Dad From Ford: "1.5 kWh lithium-ion battery and a 41-horsepower motor."
@oof_Dad
@oof_Dad Год назад
@@Pickuptrucktalk Ya I did some Googling around and have not found the exact chemistry (NMC and LFP are the most common Lithium Ion chemistries but there are others also). LFP is slightly heavier than NMC but have 3-4 times the cycle life.
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