Video Timestamps: 0:00 Welcome 1:25 Should I Get a Divorce? 8:30 Establishing Your Personal Values 15:18 3 Things to Consider 28:40 Message to Men Contemplating Divorce 31:50 Questions and Comments
What helped me decide was, looking at how she "needed" me rather than wants me. When i go on work trips, i immediately had to start cleaning upon returning because she couldn't take care of the house. She expects so much from me and offers very little. I'm tired of being a caregiver, slave, financial adviser, and a father to her. She rarely values my opinion and knowledge so its time to move on for my own sanity.
I was going to start a long comment about how my marriage went bad. Too much. No one reads long comments. My divorce was final last week. I am happy, and am starting to rebuild my life and confidence. In the short time I have been looking at your videos, it all RINGS TRUE. I was told my biggest problem was that I thought I was a good man. HMM. Thanks very much.
At 66 years old I saw no reason to continue to hope for the wonderful Wife I married to come back me after her brain and body were changed by menopause. No amount pleading and bargaining for 7 years would convince her to seek any medical help. I was told our sex life was over, to just get used to it and maybe I needed to get a girlfriend. So I did exactly that and now I'm single again and stupidly happy with a new love that loves to take care of all my needs. Watching this channel will keep me aware of what to watch out for in case my new lady begins to stray from her Good Woman ways.
Going to do the same get a girlfriend. Wife projects how she feels about herself onto me. No love or care for me only hate and disgust. Even though I’m the source of all I her life.
I am curious if your ex-wife landed up doing all those things anyway (getting hormone replacement therapy, start going to the gym) because she needs to attract the next man to look after her.
@@whocarescrapsa I hope she does. I tried to be her provider and lover for 20 years and suddenly she didn’t want me doing that. I only wanted the best for her and maybe someone else can be there for her.
my wife and i have been in counseling for a bit. i had a single session and the counselor asked where i would see myself if things didnt work out. my answer was alone - i never want to get into another relationship with a woman ever again. i know i am good person / husband/ father (not perfect but who is) and reading all these comments i've realized just about all women end up being the same or very similar and i'm not willing to take that risk again
You are absolutely right brother. Been married 15 years and if my wife left me I am done with women completely. They take no accountability, start arguments then when you respond they turn the tables on you, never say sorry, always gossip and are in their imagination, it comes straight from their spiritual father Satan. I’ll pass
@@KM-nq7ezIt’s a nice idea, but the vetting process is wildly imperfect. Only 5% of women are marriageable. Basic math tells you that 95% of men will not be able to be in a relationship with a worthy wife.
For some reason my comments keep disappearing…. weird. When you say “just about all women end up being the same or very similar”, I believe it’s about 95% of women. Only 5% of women are marriageable in today’s society. If you are appealing enough as a man to be able to attract one of those 5% of women, then by all means do so. But for most men, the risk is going to be extremely high.
To all the men out there who are deciding to get divorced after putting so much into your marriage: It is now time to love yourself and continue to build the best body, mind, and soul you can 🙏
I didn't marry a bad wife, I married a woman. Wow. I never looked at women as the same before. I saw her values as the Christian she seemed to live in front of everyone. That put her in a totally different category for me. When she filed for divorce, that didn't even make sense. She doesn't believe in divorce. But as a woman, none of anything means anything to her at all. All she has to do is change her mind. Wow. You can't make any covenant with a person who doesn't even believe in a covenant. I did that.
All women live as if they're in their own reality TV show - its all "for show". None of them have enough personal integrity or accountability you'd be willing to bank your life on. I was in the same boat as you - she seemed so Christian; parents were righteous, their marriage was strong - figured she had a good "example" to learn from..........NOPE! I was confused for years because as a Christian I'd never treat anyone the way she treated me. But as life came at her hard with various medical situations - I realized "trust God" "be still", etc - normal faith-base suggestions just rolled off her like water off a ducks back - as if I was speaking in another language. But in that did I realize - you cannot give yourself to God if you don't know/love/honor thyself first. And therein lies the root problem. But I could never figure out the "why" she didn't know/love herself - heck, most of us men learned these life lessons on the playground and by 25 we were solid in our convictions! Karyn has now put words to my experiences and has painted the picture of women that I never ever would've guessed was true - but I've lived it so I know its true! Its just amazing all the years that us men have wasted being confused AF because we didn't know this when we dropped down on one knee. Remember - Adam knew better than to eat the fruit. Eve was tempted first - gullible/lustful for the control/power satan had promised - and was easily able to string Adam along because she was naked! That historical perspective has to be re-ingrained into young men so they don't lose themselves over the pleasures of the flesh and makes sure they know what to look for in a woman to make sure she's on the low end of the "woman spectrum".
Same here brotha. My divorce will be final My 1st. She played church every Sunday. Sang in the Choir. Grew up in the Christ and it blows my mind that she did this after all the stuff I put up with and forgave her for. Yet this.
I’m going down the path to divorce. One day a switch went off. No more affection in any way, daily paranoia and accusations of cheating. It’s exhausting. She has always had issues but was nice. Now she’s mean and cold 24/7. I can’t wait to have peace again when this is over.
Divorce don’t remarry and just date many women because a wife will not treat you right. They’re selfish inconsiderate things once married. All of them… PERIOD!
They may appear to be happy, but I guarantee you they are not behind closed doors. Women are incapable of loving a man unconditionally. And conditional love only leads to anger, resentment, and misery for the one that kind of love is projected on. Just don’t ever get married, it’s not worth wasting your life living in misery.
Thank you for confirming one of the realizations and things I think about on a regular basis: would I be happier with another woman? I think about this often, and then I realize that all women are like this. Not exactly the same, but eerily similar. You're absolutely spot-on about the spectrum. It always answers the question. But to be honest, if this goes, I probably would not enter another relationship again. After what I've been through, I get why men don't want to do it.
Grass is always greener on the other side until you step into that pile of dog poop. Our minds have a way of making things seem so much better than they really are.
Yep, after two failed marriages not of my own fault, I want nothing to do with any woman ever again. I tolerate them at work just to keep my job, but I avoid them everywhere else. The negative energy they exude is palpable once you step back and remove yourself of their toxicity.
@@MagusKali YES!! And, while "courting", people are on their best behavior. Perfume, cologne, holding doors, making your favorite meal, laughing at your jokes, masquerading as enjoying time with your extended family... THEN OFTENTIMES (not always) but oftentimes THE WALLS COME DOWN AND THE MASKS COME OFF.
Karen keep going!! You are getting the hard truth out there that both women and men need to hear!! Your word is spreading as I see snips of your show on other relationship channels! Keep up the great work. Hello from NH!
Thank you for being honest. I have been watching John deloney , maybe spelled wrong. And I noticed that he talks to a LOT of married women, without even knowing the whole truth or having talked to the husband. He is quick to tell the married woman to leave the husband even without the whole context and I think that is evil. At least you have a non biased view and are about truth. Everything I have seen from you has been spot on
I am in the endgame with my wife. She is finally coming to realize how much she stands to lose but still cannot break her own pride and free herself from her ways. Thank you so much for helping me see the truth.
I started the divorce process 3 weeks ago. This was a very long time coming going back probably 6 years. I actually came to this conclusion 4 years ago and started initiating but pulled back. As stated and despite the ultimate result, I own that. But, the 4 years was important. I've grown so much in that time. I also wouldn't have realized things about my parents divorce and started recently healing my relationship with my dad. I am the prodigal son and he just patiently waited until I came running back. The sad thing, is I built my whole adult life around lies my mom told and were reinforced for many years in my marriage. Thank God my eyes were opened to the truth.
Are there women out there that are single and not "stuck in their women ways"? To be honest it is hard not to want to date anymore. I am not pursuing anymore, I cant, I get hurt way to easily now. Plus, I do not want to get called a creep or anything like that. I am just too damaged right now. I don't know, to me it feels like it is not worth it anymore. I rather be alone at this point in my life and I am 30. All I ever wanted was a wife to be loved by and give love in return.
After 4 years of Marriage I went to start the Separation process because things were going wrong with her. The wife found out and tore up the papers in front of me and threaten not only me but the Lawyer also. Fast forward 20 years and after the money well went dry it was her that went for the Divorce. She became Narcistic but I was glad to get rid of the mess. The Judge forced the children to live with the Abuser as I got away penniless.
Just awesome work, I am grateful to have come across your presentation. I have been dealing with divorce after 36 years of being with my ex, we were married 27 years when she pulled the emotional trigger and divorced me via zoom and text messaging back and forth for months. I am on training and planning an emotional come back before I get too old for love…
@@rong7754 aren't we all. However, for what it's worth, marriage isn't like a job, where you find "a better one"... marriage takes a toll, a lifelong toll. SURROUND YOURSELF WITH LIFELONG FRIENDS!
"If she's unhappy, then she'll make you unhappy." screw that selfish crap. Even if i have a bad day, i do my best to separate my problems from others. It's my problem, not yours.
As a divorced man that agrees with most of what is said here, I have taken responsibility for the choices I have made. What I do not understand why I would ever let another women hurt me again? I can count on one hand the number of women that I have put trust into and not been betrayed in one form or another. Yes I am including family in this as well. How can I trust a women when 99% of my experiences with trusting women have ended with betrayal of some kind?
@@CDRFINANCE I am aware I don't have to. I'm commenting on the part of the video where she said to not hold on to past hurts and being a victim. I agree with her mostly. I'm not holding on to the pain, I have learned from it though. And what I learned is not to trust women.
Karen, it’s so interesting following your content in my journey. My wife left me w/o filing and has refused to contact me or take ownership for her actions after counseling finally held her accountable. It’s been over 11mo and just yesterday I retained an attny to file myself in the coming weeks. My values as a Christian first, I’ve done everything I can to admit my faults , change, and be patient. I established in myself that I wait a year for her to take responsibility and reengage the marriage, but she has only continued to blame me. She hasn’t changed so I have to move on. After 23 years, it is hard. Your videos have been helpful from a women’s perspective and someone who sees the things you have learned. The Bible teaches these things and my wife should know them. You don’t seem to operate from this same principle value system (the Bible exclusively) guiding you but nature has taught you this truth. Keep going.
Here here good man, I’m suffering same fate in large part. Trying to save the money to file myself she’s had the truth for a year now, still have hope somehow she wakes up but just waiting on lord’s timing at this point which is when he provides the financial ability to start the process. Damn it hurts tho brother as I know in largest part it is not lords will………but neither is being a martyr for someone with no purpose………sent in love.
@@LastRebel1978 well, since you both have broached the Lord and His will in our lives.... sometimes we have to STOP and inquire of Him if this is His will. Just like men in the Bible who were suffering and enduring, we have to inquire and assess what is the Lord's will. Me? I would rather suffer temporarily while knowing it's in God's will for me, than to live outside of His will. Moses suffered, Paul suffered.... I do NOT want to suffer, but I accept it IF it is something I will learn and grown from. Divorce usually (and you can disagree) divorce usually produces 2 broken toys.
@@thehappywifeschool Do you even feel regret for the way you treated your husband? Is every single woman in the world like this? Please answer me. I need reassurance. I truly believe good women are still out there.
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Never again. I was super husband, father, etc. wasn’t good enough. She cheated. Got caught and blamed me. Got labeled as boring etc. Now only date and release when it gets stupid.
That's one thing I'm thankful for. My wife and marriage is dysfunctional now and ending after over 10 years..... BUT I could have done so much worse and I dated many of them that would have treated me worse, and sooner. Or left me just cause she's bored. Or whatever. My soon to be x-wife is super good with me having the kids as much as I want, etc....
That was empowering. I reflected on my failed marriage and my place in it, the path I took. My core value was to be a good husband and I was. After the seperation I had a period of personal growth while she lost the job, house, and life I supported her in. Six months after our seperation she missed the intimacy I provided that men from the internet didn't; she had lost me. We both lost by the marriage falling apart. I felt I failed because I worked for it. I didn't fail though and i am not a loser. My mistake was not letting it go sooner.
You are an invaluable source Karyn, but I have to push back on something you said early on. While we can have our own sets of values, we are not entitled to our own truth. That leads to unrealistic expectations of other people, which is what we are trying to fix.
💯....people talking of "my truth" which sometimes is simply feelings-based and not always factual giving some folks a blank cheque to redraft what the "actual truth" is in situations.
I’m at the beginning with this. I have made the decision to start the process and am secure with my decision. My wife doesn’t respect me but that is fine.
I moved to Mexico 15 months ago. Since then I've had half a dozen women apologize to me when they messed up. A simple "I'm sorry" and I say it's ok and we move on (and I apologize when I mess up, too). It's been at least 10 years since a USA woman did that. It's a sick culture that is the problem, giving sick messages to men and women over and over and over. Go where you're treated best, as Nomad Capitalist puts it. Unfortunately Karen has not lived for extended periods in multiple non-Western countries like I have, so she doesn't understand this. Learn to respect yourself as a man and strive for excellence, and enforce boundaries against disrespectful people. Then get a remote work job and get out. Best decision you'll likely ever make in your life.
It is a bitter pill to swallow, but this is the reality I expected based on the Bible. Thanks, Karyn, for sticking with the truth. The truth always sets people free!
The epitome of stupidity is to drive away a good man while blaming him. 44 years of marriage to an angry, blaming wife. I’m devoted to stay and care for my wife so she is fortunate. I had hoped for decades that she would be one with me and respect her vows but now reality has set in: I will die lonely, disrespected. Very sad. 4-23-2024 EDIT: this thread seems to stir lots of emotion, understandably. I just want to say I'm not judging anyone for their choices or comments. Thanks for all the reply's.
Make the choice to leave. I am after 25 years. It will be hard, it will be costly but I will persevere. Yes it is my choice and I will own it. Forward to a future is my Battle cry.
Yes, it is 100% uniquely empowering to have this message come from someone with two X chromosomes. The first time I viewed one of Karyn's videos that described the reality of women's behavior, I thought, "Oh, my God! You're not allowed to say THAT!" But I'm happy to say that since then, Karyn Seitz has become more valuable to the future of my marriage--which is looking quite bright thanks to my wife's receptivity to the message--than 1,000 marriage counselors EVER could have been.
I’m married to a woman that I love I’ve worked hard and paid our mortgage working 70 hours a week as a truck driver to make a good life for both of us and all I get is the cold shoulder. I don’t know what to do anymore
Get in the truck and not come back, I feel your pain but to costly not only for me but being a farmer it destroys our children’s chance to become a farmer
@@marklowe5939 let's be honest, men have issues too. As a man who is married for over 46 years, it's easy to 'blame someone else" but we all have issues and missteps. None of us are perfect. I have to adjust my halo too. LOL
If it's much harder for us women to accept responsibility and change than it's ok to applaud the ones can push through the bull crap in our brains and do the work. That's the while point of karyns videos is to help women do better, so their men can be happier.
Thank you for this. I'm not perfect, and definitely did some damage to the relationship myself, but I do believe I'm generally good, and I do want the best for my wife. However, she refuses to see what she is doing to contribute to our permanent Power Struggle phase. If I were to show her your videos, it would start World War 3 in my home. I'm going to ask for a divorce on the 28th of this month, at the first marriage counseling session immediately after my birthday. I can't continue living like this, and neither can she. it isn't fair to either of us, and she's not willing to do the work she needs to do on herself (like I've been trying to with myself) in order to get to a better place emotionally. After this marriage ends, I will never get married again. I'm of an age where I value my peace, more than I value the company of someone who disturbs that peace.
Matthew 5 says not to make vows or oaths, just to "let your yes mean yes, and your no mean no, and everything else comes from the devil". Psalm 15 says, if you make a vow or an oath, you had better keep it.
EXACTLY ! I've said this for 30years . The two times I've been to court to testify, I insisted on a * solemn declaration " instead . I've often thought this to be a problem in holding political office protocols
Hi Karyn , I am a born again man. Your channel is the first one that I have across which has content that builds. You have helped me process how my marriage failed 5 years ago.
You and your channels message are truly sincere and of immense value for both men and women, I hope your teachings spread far and wide as you are helping so many people!
IMO, the instant your wife says she wants out, let her go. You can work on it, but most likely you’re delaying the inevitable. The longer you delay, the higher the cost both emotionally and financially. If you wait too long (50’s, 60’s) you may never recover. I say this, married 22 years and just turned 50. Of that time, 5 years were happy, 10 were just doing the routine and 5-7 were awful. That’s not linear. Every couple months there would be a few awful weeks, she’d threaten to leave, stuff like that. I’ve internalized it now. A day doesn’t go by that I don’t fantasize about spending the rest of my life alone. Not with her. Not with anyone. Not sharing a living space with anyone again. The cost to me today would be extremely high.
Thank you Karen! I've been watching your channel since September. Everything you say sounds like my x-wife. I have grown incredibly angry at women since my divorce (3.5 years ago). I haven't even started dating. I'm beginning to get angry even at my daughters, mother, and sisters as I see their "womanly ways". I don't what to hate my family. I don't want to hate women. I realize that I need to take responsibility for my self. I need to find what defect allowed me to be emasculated. I will change me! Camp Responsibility!
I think it is useful for men to reassess what they are getting in a relationship. It is very easy for us to put a load of washing on. Takes 30 seconds. We can have a healthy meal done in a similar fashion. Push a button on an air fryer and go do something else. If you hate doing that stuff hire a maid and get her to cook you meals for the week in advance. Now all you are lacking is intimacy. You can think very clearly about how much that is worth to you. If you 25, it will be all you can think about. At 45, it might be worth 5% of your time. It is almost impossible to find good women. It has never been easier to find intimacy. Pivot and go with what is available in the market. Guard your heart and your wallet.
I can say that for 40 years of marriage, I was a good man, husband, and Dad. Then I broke the marriage covenant. For all the men considering an affair as your "cry for help"... either get help or get divorced. The consequences of an affair are epic.
as do we all. None of us are perfetc (misspelled intentionally) We all have faults, we all have fallen, we all have regrets. But, we grow when we learn from those missteps. We grow as individuals.
@@Jojo10475 Thank you for that. It's like the Garden of Eden narrative, once we realize our vulnerability we can't go back. We only have the LORD to count on ; His grace, right?
Spot on Karen! These are hard truths but all truth is hard and ultimately sets us free. Love your channel and also Pearl Davis of Pearly Things. It would be great to see you two interview or collaborate in some way!🙏
She wants attention. Walk up behind her and growl in her ear. Date her....pat her butt as she walks by. Tell her she is sexy. This is an easy one. Be her man
@KJ-pu8dw I guess that's true, but what role do women play? I'm confused on why my desire is innate and hers requires me to do things for her on a consistent basis?
Guys these action for women especially mature women are stupid games, that is for children, if she says oh I have to be chased, that’s insecurity, the key to marriage is serving one another with know strings attached, no bullshit games
Dam you know at least I can see I'm not the LONE RANGER ! 😂 I was beginning to think I was loosing my mind ! Can't keep up with the Roller Coster ride . trying to maintain my mind, body , and soul is a huge battle alone when you're expecting to have a partner in life.
My wife probably scores high on this spectrum. I have had to turn myself off emotionally to her in order to survive. I wish women could understand that, when this happens, they loose both the ability to hurt us AND the ability to experience joy. I got off the emotional roller coaster and now I have peace even when she acts out.
You are right. These problems are common everywhere. I’m married to a Chinese woman (born and raised), with little to none western culture influence. It’s the same. Only by explaining what happened you’ve already taken a huge burden from me. It’s comforting to know that I’m not alone. I can’t stop watching your videos. Ps: you are beautiful!
Not going to lie, the video wasn't what I feared it would be as I have been having challenges with my spouse recently after some smooth sailing but all three points were the same as I had come to as I have considered the potential of separation or divorce in the past. While it wasn't nothing new it did further reassure me that my conclusion with regards to separation or divorce wasn't just something I dreamed up to justify things.
@SALTYCOMBATDIVER-Exinstructor, thank you for always being willing to share. I am happy that the show today reassured you about your conclusion about what's best for you regarding separation or divorce.
Going through this my wife basically wants to friend zone me while she has fun we have 3 children and 12years she has taken the house all the money all the possesions i have literally nothing and would be homeless without family, and im so backward im still to fix it. All i can think about is the kidz, my religion is my guide ive decided that im just going to do what i think is the right thing to do, and go forward that way. Its all so much tho i really wish i could just focus on myself but im not there, i feel broken :*(.
Your video's are very helpful for me. My wife is premenopausle. She's mean, emotional and quite unpleasant to be around. Most men would tell me to get out. But, I love her and I'm going to stand by her. No matter what! I'm her rock. I'm a sentinel.
top priority should always be YHWH (GOD) and HIS Will. good spouse and relationship second which includes “camp take responsibility”. this is how i live and will continue to. we are here to serve our creator, everything else is secondary to that. but that doesn’t mean being a bible thumping actor, it means being a real person striving to be better today than i was yesterday within the confines of YHWH’S instructions.
I think good men are in denial about the status of their marriage.They don't want to beleive it's over. That was my problem. I didnt want to see the obvious signs. Wake up men. When it's over. It's over.
❤🎉 Tks 4 your videos and your words of encouragement YAH ( GOD) bless you and your marriage and family. My wife checked out but I m not Out because of your help and my messiah and king ( YAHUSHA) ❤🎉 tks. Fact’s :
The living Word helps me through the darkest moments in marriage, in this life. “Hear, O LORD, when I cry with my voice: have mercy also upon me, and answer me.” Psalms 27:7 “When thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek.” Psalms 27:8 “Hide not thy face far from me; put not thy servant away in anger: thou hast been my help; leave me not, neither forsake me, O God of my salvation.” Psalms 27:9 “I had fainted, unless I had believed to see the goodness of the LORD in the land of the living.” Psalms 27:13 “Wait on the LORD: be of good courage, and HE shall strengthen thine heart: wait, I say, on the LORD.” Psalms 27:14
In regards to marriage, the legal system looks to be intentionally designed to destabilize relationships and break families. It rewards the least responsible partner for causing harm to the more responsible partner. You need to speak with an attorney before signing a marriage contract with the state.
After years with no love or respect. I did pay everything, cleaned , took for 80 plus percent care of the kids etc. We went to a session and did not get any clearance. So yes it cost money but at least I found peace and not disrespect behavior anymore
14:20 - Guys, a cheat code that makes your “value system” super simple and maximally effective is this: 1) To know God through His Word, the Holy Bible. The Bible has all the instruction one could possibly need in it so those who prioritize knowing it through a principled process will also have the rest of the knowledge & tools to navigate life. Being principled in your process of interpreting the Word of God is paramount.
So ive listen to this twice, im a bit confused on making a decision that is in line with your values (in terms of a divorce part). When making the decsion thats best for you how are you determining that. For example: if your value is being a good husband, but you find yourself unable to meet your expectations (for whatever reason) then would that be apart of the framework to get divorced or part of the framework to double down?
I would like to respond to a statement you made at or near to 41:00 into your cast, "...This is the way women have been for thousands of years ..." I am quite certain that this is not correct not least because, if it were, then we could not be here now listening to you because we would have been extinct long before now. I believe this was instigated with a sexism probably seeded by the likes of John D. Rockefeller in the 19thC., who bought up the media and weaponised it for the purposes of indoctrination with the intention of dividing people, in this instance particularly men and women and with among other things the intention of destroying the family unit. After triggering female egos with sexism it was relatively easy to indoctrinate the characteristics and myths that created "Feminism", a powerfully strong movement with a disingenuous trope requiring a peg and a hole to be "equal" and to apply "equality" instead of "complementarity". Please keep up your beautiful and brilliant work - You are saving many men's lives as well as marriages and happiness. Love you.
Karyn, I believe you are being a bit disingenuous about dismissing the "wrong woman". Certainly there is a large difference between the barely emasculating woman and the screaming harpy. I wrack my brain about what I could do differently or better and, frankly, the only thing I could've done is divorce at the first sign of trouble. Though to be honest, if I ever divorce my wife, I'm not marrying again because if there is something I could've done better or improve myself, I don't know what it is and don't want to repeat my same mistake. Otherwise I think your advice seems pretty good. Tempered by 27 years of marriage, here are my values: 1) Extreme cynicism about female nature and male/female relationships bordering on misogyny. 2) Extreme cynicism about Christian religious organizations because zero of them warn men about the emasculating nature of women and the dangers of marriage. I believe they do this because they want the families to fill the pews and keep the money coming in. Shame on them. 3) Parenting and supporting my children. I have 4 and one is autistic and requires supervision, so helping him and being his guardian in his adulthood is a life goal. Certainly there is a bit of being a victim in all this, after all someone has done wrong or some injustice. Someone can be a victim but still take accountability of his own decisions and make the best of it.
Yes, you have given us so many truths. So much information and insight. THANK YOU However, knowing and hearing what you say, women are self-centered, and all carry the same entitlement... but along a spectrum. You say, "You didn't marry the WRONG woman, you have just married a WOMAN" Now, concerning divorce... where does it lead? How many more ships do we think will pull into our port? Reminds me of men who complain about their previous 5 wives and 5 divorces. "If Bob has a problem with everyone, then probably Bob might be the problem" Might as well deal with the wife you have. You don't sell an investment because the market is currently down. Other than violence or the expectation of violence... hang in there.
All I ever heard is I want a divorce. My ex was already married once. Then me. She left me for another married man. You want to break a man, do that and have the voice of your toddler twin boys living in your head and reflecting on a life lost with them. Do I miss her no. Do I miss the boys very much. She comes from a Christian family? Not when every sibling was divorced and mommy set a jezebel example.
Most people don't change, only God can make changes in an individuals life. So you have to love and accept your spouse as they are, and bring God into the marriage if you want improvement. The immature allow others, circumstances, and indecision to make their choices. It's easier to stay and do nothing. If you leave and there is no changes in the behavior, then you know you have made the correct choice.
Keeping distance worked for me. Divorces are free money for wives. Also, tax burden maintaining two households. Likelihood of finding another wife that would be open-minded is close to 0%. All ladies I met in places where we lived suggest that. My neighbors dynamics in relationships support that. Women want to be 'taken care off'. They told me. I have been approached. Men submit obediently or ran away. Many skid marks here and there. In your Ep. 30 you do not persuade anyone.
Another content rich, rubber meets the road video. Thank you for helping provide a framework for a situation that causes many to stumble on and off the emotional rollercoaster. I won't be using anymore E-tickets for that ride!
I was with you until you basically said “improve yourself, maintain frame, get back out there and do better. Nope. I’d rather be dead than get married again.
I was going to start another of my long grousing comments, but since "Brevity is the soul of wit," I'm in a Zero Returns on Investment marriage. Been that way for at least 25 years. Today was our 49th anniversary...dinner out...no affection of any kind from her.
Sorry for saying this plain to you. You were also in that marriage for the last 25 years and accept her behavior. So you must man up and don't diner out for the 50th time, or do the last diner out!
I have a question about how you present values. For example... if you vakue your marriage and husband. . Then there's a lot that is intrinsic to that as youve expressed... and described.... a common one here is 2 people got together and then later it turns out they value sex differently... or maybe one values sex as part of marriage and one doesn't... but marriage also includes many other things like finances, kids, etc... that are part of it. So how do you break those out in terms of values? Just top level? Top of tree?