Should Kobe Bryant be ranked higher than No. 10 on the NBA anniversary team? | First Take 

How was he so great?

6-10 seems pretty fair

Agreed. Kobe needs to be moved up

@@hamzabhatti_24 7 at best

All nba15x v 10 All defense 12x v 0 Mvp 1x v 3x Rings 5x v 5 Fmvp 2x v 3 Scoring🏆2x v 0 Ast🏆0x v 4 Stl🏆0x v 2 Longevity 20yrs vs 13yrs Stat total > pts, reb, blks, stl vs ast The totality of what kobe accomplished is > than magic. Also did it without another top 10 player.

He won all 5 rings with a top 15 coach

Lebron came back from a 3-1 and won a ring against a 73-9 record team without a top 75 player on the roster. NOW THAT IS MORE IMPRESSIVE

Agreed!

@@Howdidhenotseeme last time I checked coachs don't play the game!

@@Howdidhenotseeme dumb @ss statement 🤣🤣🤣

You can’t put Duncan in the top 10 without putting Shaq on the list is what she was saying. Duncan is a top 10 player but Shaq dominated the 2000s

@@GODzClanMKX and duncan played 3 different era and be effective that shows how good his skill set is he's not dominating but he's always up there all his career. And yes you can put duncan in there without shaq.

Shaq deff deserves to be in Top 10. That man has the potential to be #1 if he just worked as hard as Kobe did. No joke, we will never see another Shaq again. Imagine Orlando Shaq with a little bit more muscle always in top body shape.

Shaq is better than Tim Duncan

@@chuckchuk5157 so you saying Shaq isn’t top 10???

The NBA did the media didnt...

Neither did most people until he died

maybe because he isnt that good lol

Kobe's better than oscar, while lebron is not top 2, top 7 suitable for superteam creator

@@gameyee8251 you’re trippin

Beat more 50+ win teams than anyone all time & in those 3 straight he beat more than Lebum did in his eight straight in the East. All that with just Pau Gasol, Lamar Odom, Derek Fisher, a banged up Andrew Bynum & Ron Artest for the last one lol

@@NICANTONIO Lebum?😂😂😂😂

@@NICANTONIO so what

*Kobe 2008 Postseason* (633pts) 30.1ppg, 5.7rb, 5.6ast, 1.7stl, 0.4blk, 3.3to *fg 47%, 3p 30%, ft 80%* 0-3Ft Shooting 62% (Paint) *3-10Ft Shooting 63%* *10-16Ft Shooting 50%* *16-30Ft Shooting 42%* Shooting Distance - *13.9 feet* ________________________________________________________ *2009 Kobe Postseason* (695pts) 30.2ppg, 5.3rb, 5.5ast, 1.7stl. 0.9blk, 2.6to *fg 45%, 3p 34%, ft 88%* 0-3Ft Shooting 59% (Paint) *3-10Ft Shooting 40%* *10-16Ft Shooting 45%* *16-30Ft Shooting 46%* Shooting Distance - *14.6 feet* _______________________________________________________ *2010 Kobe Postseason* (671pts) 29.2ppg, 6.0rb, 5.5ast, 1.3stl, 0.7blk, 3.4to *fg 45%, 3p 37%, ft 84%* 0-3Ft Shooting 54% (Paint) *3-10Ft Shooting 52%* *10-16Ft Shooting 47%* *16-30Ft Shooting 43%* Shooting Distance - *15.1 Feet* _______________________________________________________ *2008 West Finals Lakers vs Spurs W 4-1* Kobe 29.2ppg, 5.6rb, 3.8ast, 1.6stl, 0.0blk *fg 53%, 3p 33%, 90%* (11 free throw attempts) - *2008 West Finals Game 1 W 89-85* Kobe 27pts, 5rbs, 9asts, 1stl, 0blk, *1to* *11-21fgm, 1/3 3pm, 4/4fta* (14pts in 4th - 6-9fgm, 0/1 3pm, 2/2fta ) - *2008 West Finals Game 2 W 101-71* Kobe 22pts, 5rbs, 5asts, 1stl, 0blk, 3to *10-17fgm, 1/5 3pm, 1/1fta* - *2008 West Finals Game 3 L 84-103* Kobe 30pts , 5rbs, 1ast, 3stls, 0blk, 4to *13-23fgm, 4/9 3pm, 0/1fta* - *2008 West Finals Game 4 W 93-91* Kobe 28pts, 10rbs, 1ast, 1stl, 0blk, 2to *14-29fgm, 0/1 3pm, 0/0fta* (should be 40pts) *2008 West Finals Game 5 W 100-92* Kobe *39pts* , 3rbs, 3asts, 2stls, 0blk, 2to *16-30fgm, 2/6 3pm, 5/5fta* (17pts in 4th: 6-11fgm, 1/2 3pm, 4/4fta) ________________________________________________________ *2009 West Finals Lakers vs Nuggets W 4-2* Kobe 34.0ppg, 5.8rb, 5.8ast, 0.8stl, 0.5blk *fg 48%, 3p 34%, ft 93%* - *2009 West Finals Game 1 W 105-103* Kobe *40pts* , 6rbs, 4asts, 0stl, 1blk, *1to* *13-28fgm, 2/3 3pm, 12/13fta* (18pts in 4th: 4-5fgm, 1/1 3pm, 9/9fta) - *2009 West Finals Game 2 L 103-106* Kobe 32pts, 5rbs, 3asts, 1stl, 1blk, 2to *10-20fgm, 2/4 3pm, 10/10fta* - *2009 West Finals Game 3 W 103-97* Kobe *41pts* , 6rbs, 5asts, 2stls, 0blk, *1to* *12-24fgm, 2/5 3pm, 15/17fta* (13pts in 4th: 3-5fgm, 1/2 3pm, 6/8fta) - *2009 West Finals Game 4 L 101-120* Kobe *34pts* , 7rbs, 5asts, 1stl, 0blk, *1to* *10-26fgm, 2/10 3pm, 12/13fta* - *2009 West Finals Game 5 W 103-94* Kobe 22pts, 5rbs, 8asts, 1stl, 0blk, 7to *6-13fgm, 1/6 3pm, 9/10fta* - *2009 West Finals Game 6 W 119-102* Kobe *35pts* , 6rbs, *10asts* , 0stl, 1blk, *1to* *12-20fgm, 2/4 3pm, 9/9fta* (9pts in 4th: 3-3fgm, 1/1 3pm, 2/2fta) ________________________________________________________ *2010 West Finals Lakers vs Suns W 4-2* Kobe 33.7ppg, 7.2rb, 8.3ast, 0.8stl, 1.2blk *fg 52%, 3p 43%, ft 88%* - *2010 West Finals Game 1 W 128-107* Kobe *40pts* , 5rbs, 5asts, 1stl, 0blk, 2to *13-23fgm, 3/6 3pm, 11/12fta* (21pts in 3rd qtr: 7-10fgm, 1/2 3pm, 6/6fta)(35 min) - *2010 West Finals Game 2 W 124- 112* Kobe 21pts, 5rbs, *13asts* , 0stl, 1blk, 2to *8-19fgm, 1/3 3pm, 4/4fta* - *2010 West Finals Game 3 L 109-118* Kobe *36pts* , 9rbs, *11asts* , 1stl, 1blk, 5to *13-24fgm, 2/8 3pm, 8/8fta* - *2010 West Finals Game 4 L 106-115* Kobe *38pts* , 7rbs, *10asts* , 1stl, 1blk, *1to* *15-22fgm, 6/9 3pm, 2/4fta* (Should be 40-45pts) - *2010 West Finals Game 5 W 103-101* Kobe *30pts, 11rbs* , 9asts, 0stl, 4blk , 2to *12-27fgm, 4/10 3pm, 2/3fta* - *2010 West Finals Game 6 W 111-103* Kobe *37pts* , 6rbs, 2asts, 2stls, 0blk, 2to *12-25fgm, 3/8 3pm, 10/11fta* (11pts in 4th : 3-7fgm, 0/2 3pm, 5/6fta) (Game winning shot) ________________________________________________________ Kobe in his prime eliminated Spurs, Nuggets, & Phx that had elite players/ hofers.

@@B.Piercesports he jus explained it

Yep

kobe kicked his head in in the playoffs.

@@joestevens3071 but Duncan beat LeBron

And Duncan won chips in 3 different decades :).

@@andreward8268 Cleveland and Miami Bron 😅

I love this

just swap Steph for Wilt and that'll be the Top 10

Dude, I hope you reply to this but you just made so much sense... like so much I was confused 😂 good comment bro, ima use this in my argument anytime this comes up

@@qweqweiopiop123 What’s up my guy 😎

How about Jerry West? Before you laugh, consider this: West was the best scoring guard of his era in addition to being one a remarkable perimeter defender. He averaged 27-6-7 FOR HIS CAREER.

They just hate on kobe. They skipped the kobe mj debate, and now all these gen Z kids think lebron is the goat... the world is garbage

Ppl finally smarten up u can’t be top 3 owning the most missed shots in nba history

Lol kobe was never top 3 when talking about rankings. Only Kobe fans put him there.

@@christianallen1620 lebrons closing in on 4th missed shots 😂 and soon 3rd most missed shots 😂😂😂

@@jeffzalonka lebron barely entered the goat debate in 2016 😂😂😂

Achievement (ACHV) Totals… NBA Titles: Tim = 5 Kobe = 5 Shaq = 4 Curry = 3 Finals MVPs: Tim = 3 Kobe = 2 Shaq = 3 Curry = 0 Season MVP: Tim = 2 Kobe = 1 Shaq = 1 Curry = 2 1st All-NBA: Tim = 10 Kobe = 11 Shaq = 8 Curry = 4 1st All-DEF: Tim = 8 Kobe = 9 Shaq = 3 Curry = 0 ACHV Totals. Tim = 28 Kobe = 28 Shaq = 19 Curry = 9 Curry isn’t even close to the greats. Even when it comes to scoring, he’s #17 in Career Scoring per Game. BTW, when it comes to Achievement(ACHV) Totals, Jordan is #1 with 36 and LeBron is #2 with 30 When it comes to stats Wilt is #1, Jordan is #2, and LeBron is #3

@@FreedomFighter2112 duncan is elite

Always was my favorite player of all times

Preachhh the only comment that matters

I feel the same way bro. All this talk is nonsense

factz me too

Me too

Umm he is not the goat but he should be in the top 4

@@carlosthrasher1301 naw bro he’s the goat. I could debate back and forth about it. No one gives him his respect

I’m sure they played more than one game among themselves

In 2001 Shaq destroyed Tim Duncan when the Lakers swept the Spurs and the series was not even close.

@@harinderrana9735 99 spurs swept lakers shaq and kobe. So your point is invalid and try again

@@harinderrana9735 In 2001 Anyonio Daniels was Duncan’s 2nd best scorer People have a short memory or can’t be bothered to look into it, but from 99-04 SA failed to give Duncan offensive help, hence why a team that had both Kobe and Shaq beat him 3 times in that time span, and somehow with either an aged Robinson or a teenage Parker Duncan still beat them twice

@@darkaskss Not really because Shaq outplayed Duncan in 01 and 02.

Yea you could tell she just got the job

HE IS THEGOAT PF

You are correct.... Achievement (ACHV) Totals… NBA Titles: Tim = 5 Kobe = 5 Shaq = 4 Curry = 3 Finals MVPs: Tim = 3 Kobe = 2 Shaq = 3 Curry = 0 Season MVP: Tim = 2 Kobe = 1 Shaq = 1 Curry = 2 1st All-NBA: Tim = 10 Kobe = 11 Shaq = 8 Curry = 4 1st All-DEF: Tim = 8 Kobe = 9 Shaq = 3 Curry = 0 ACHV Totals. Tim = 28 Kobe = 28 Shaq = 19 Curry = 9 Curry isn’t even close to the greats. Even when it comes to scoring, he’s #17 in Career Scoring per Game. BTW, when it comes to Achievement(ACHV) Totals, Jordan is #1 with 36 and LeBron is #2 with 30 When it comes to stats Wilt is #1, Jordan is #2, and LeBron is #3

Run an had 3 hof players around him his whole career. Gtfoh

yeah that so dumb asf

💯 the most underrated basketball player of all time

But people won’t see that, only real ones know

7-0 if he didnt get hurt in 2000 before the playoffs

tim duncan was so good he made pop look like a coaching god

He wasn't better than a shaq

i feel like its just kinda disrespectful that they don't have kobe top 5.

@@Tkw-ez4ke he don’t deserve that much lol

@@Official_JG None of the players except MJ deserve it. How can any of them deserve it if Kobe can't? If 5 chips with numerous accolades can't deserve it, how can other players deserve it? You feel me, you clown?

@@Tkw-ez4ke how dude

@@avocaza1393 cuz bron and kareem have more accolades then kobe lol kobe isn’t top 3 top 5 maybe

Because u gotta understand the league favoritism lebron more than they did Kobe lebron should be 10 and Kobe 2 because Kobe was the closes thing to Jordan but it’s pretty obvious the league ESPN and the people working for sports shows ain’t gonna disrespect lebron

@@jovanimalickMiller0401 Na, man. I agree. Just throwing it out there. Where I have him, too.

@@rickydamiron4905 No you sound slow

why because he died.

Kobe achieve more

@@ryukenhondaraiden252 No because he's better. Oscar is 60's Westbrick, just another empty stats player who couldn't win.

@@ryukenhondaraiden252 look at level of competition that Oscar & Wilt played in. It's by far the weakest.

@@ryukenhondaraiden252 y’all have no argument 🤣Kobe was top ten before he died y’all just bron fans hating because kobe the last great laker

Achievement (ACHV) Totals… NBA Titles: Tim = 5 Kobe = 5 Magic = 5 Shaq = 4 Bird = 3 Curry = 3 Finals MVPs: Tim = 3 Kobe = 2 Magic = 3 Shaq = 3 Bird = 2 Curry = 0 Season MVP: Tim = 2 Kobe = 1 Magic = 3 Shaq = 1 Bird = 3 Curry = 2 1st All-NBA: Tim = 10 Kobe = 11 Magic = 9 Shaq = 8 Bird = 9 Curry = 4 1st All-DEF: Tim = 8 Kobe = 9 Magic = 0 Shaq = 3 Bird = 0 Curry = 0 ACHV Totals: Tim = 28 Kobe = 28 Magic = 20 Shaq = 19 Bird = 17 Curry = 9 Curry isn’t even close to the greats. Neither is Durant whose Achievement totals are at 11 BTW, when it comes to Achievement(ACHV) Totals, Jordan is #1 with 36 and LeBron is #2 with 30. This is why Kobe should be in the Top 3 or 4 When it comes to stats Wilt is #1, Jordan is #2, and LeBron is #3

@@FreedomFighter2112 if you say Kobe is Top 4 what about Tim? Based on your logic

@@cmc2110 Tim Duncan has a losing playoff record against Kobe

@@FreedomFighter2112 Do you have these already written out? I would be curious to see the totals of the other guys that are in the top 10, like Kareem, Wilt, Bill, Hakeem as well as someone like Oscar. Also wouldn't other stuff like scoring titles, assists titles, ROY, MIP, All-Star selections, AS MVP etc. count for at least half a point or something?

They are the whole circus itself

facts I simply don’t understand how anyone can act like kobe isn’t at least #5.. MJ is the only one who is clearly better but really MJ, magic,kareem, and lebron are the only 4 players who can make a real argument for being ranked just ahead of him and those 4 ONLY making him at least #5. blows my mind how some ppl don’t see he’s easily #5 at least

@@jaket5716curry>magic

for real that’s a clown take stephen a is a casual

Kd 4x scoring champ the youngest ever kd only player in history with a 30ppg average in the finals while shooting 50/40/90 he also is the only guy ever with a 25ppg on 61% ts

Overrated, his accomplishments are largely because of Pop. His numbers and eye test don’t hold up in comparison to Kobe or Shaq (or even AI)

@@melorileytv3408 he also joined a 73-9 team n was a sidekick to steph Curry

mvps are so narrow though u could make the case the KD was mvp from 2012-2014. he had less Talent then Lebrons heat but won the same amount of games in a tougher conference

@@mrlalalaelmo7454 couldn’t you say the same about Kobe with Phil Jackson also Duncan had to deal with both shaq and Kobe and battled them hard with an old David Robinson and very young tony Parker.

And by advanced metrics the greatest defensive player ever. Watch Clayton’s GOAT series where he does an episode on why Duncan is the GOAT.

He’s not top 15

Kobe was more Active and Hardworking

People forget how good Duncan was just cus he’s playstyle was ‘boring’ Kobe’s my favorite player but I still got Duncan over him

@@kingsfan4evr24 Tim Duncan has great advance stats because Spurs were a great defense team always casuals

but that doesnt mean its accurate

That would be a horrible list too then… Kobe does not belong in the NBA top 5 and he’s my favourite player all time

@@captaincalamity8487 May I ask why he’s not in your top 5?

@@captaincalamity8487 ur cappin no Kobe fan wouldn’t put him top 5

No way the players are voting him over MJ, Bron and Kareem just not happening.

The disrespect to Kobe is atrocious they put lebron at 2 and Kobe 10 lebron shouldn’t be 2 because he’s not nexts to MJ at all plus Kobe was loyal to his team than lebron lebron is and never was loyal to no team but the nba loves lebron so much the favoritism for him is atrocious 🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻

@@jovanimalickMiller0401 please stop

@@samsmith8086 what I’m saying is true

@@jovanimalickMiller0401 i didn't bring up any names man. Your comment is strictly opinion that many people share. But again, if you refer back to my original comment there will always be bias and difficulty choosing the top 10

KD over bird is some BS, KD isn't probably top 3 scorers ever but he isn't the leader that Bird was.

@@Sg6CrossOver who yo top 3 scorers ? I’m jus curious

Kd never did ANYTHING by himself… he top 20 and that’s all

@Caleb Lipscomb true, but he gets the edge because he’s arguably the greatest white basketball player ever….

KD isn't Greater than Bird. You might argue is BETTER, but not GREATER

Sad you people support this guy knowing what he did in that hotel room

@@sac1211 Lmfaaaaaaoooo 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@sac12 you never cheat a day in your life

@@sac1211 isn’t curry wife looking for another man 🤣not top 30 in my eyes

@@sac1211 WAS THAT YOUR MOM WHO HE SMASHED😂🤣🤣

The only 4 times ALL STAR MVP makes him the Star of the stars

Popularity has nothing to do with greatness. Secondly I know many kids who preferred Iverson over Kobe that doesn't make Iverson better than Kobe.

Yeah he played with a bunch of great players. Its like half the best players in the league would go there.

@@datsapaddlin free agency didn’t exist in those days either….a player would stay with a team until the team didn’t want you anymore.And because players had to stay with 1 team when free angency started in the NBA in 1976 players still had the mentality to stay with 1 team so they never used the freedom of free agency until basically the late 90s….And then Lebron came along and rewrote the free agency rules

@@JuanMedina-ml1qx well that and the Celtics could get no low draft picks in a league of with not many teams 😂. Somehow they would get the best players in the draft.

Facts about Bill Russell.

@NopeNopeNope that’s a great question,and I would say that it has to do with a combination a both.Because if you look at those players stats it did contribute to winning at different times of Russels career,example when hall of famer Bob Cousy retired in 63 he averaged 18 and 7 asst for his career it was great in those day and average now….he was than replaced with Sam Jones who averaged 17 considered great back then average now a days And that’s what the Celtics did when a player retired or got old they replaced them with another great player.

Yep...enough said

Nah. That’s MJ

@@jeffzalonka Nah. It's Kobe

@@avocaza1393 definitely not

Same could be said for A.I. But one thing Kobe had over AI was them 5 💍

@@louisnoel7936 AI had no shaq or dwight howard, pau gasol, gary payton, etc...and no phil jackson

Kobe got carried by superstar his whole career and Kareen should be number 2 all time kobe was very overrated

@@darnellwilliams8783 lol carried his whole career yet went to 3 finals without shaq 🤡

@@darnellwilliams8783 who carried him to his 4th and 5th rings?

@@connor3885 he had superstar pau gasol .kobe was a average superstar

@@socalsp3 this man called gasol a superstar, I'm sleep. So by your logic Chris Bosh was a superstar on the heat since him and gasol we're literally averaging similar stats when one was on the heat and the other on the Lakers lol

'A league of his own' Act like there isn't a superior version of Kobe named MJ 💀

@@JoeSmithGOAT MJ s not better

@@Cincychamps 💀L

@@Cincychamps just cause someone died does not suddenly make them the goat

Wilt will be talked about 4ever as well

Achievement (ACHV) Totals… NBA Titles: Tim = 5 Kobe = 5 Magic = 5 Shaq = 4 Bird = 3 Curry = 3 Finals MVPs: Tim = 3 Kobe = 2 Magic = 3 Shaq = 3 Bird = 2 Curry = 0 Season MVP: Tim = 2 Kobe = 1 Magic = 3 Shaq = 1 Bird = 3 Curry = 2 1st All-NBA: Tim = 10 Kobe = 11 Magic = 9 Shaq = 8 Bird = 9 Curry = 4 1st All-DEF: Tim = 8 Kobe = 9 Magic = 0 Shaq = 3 Bird = 0 Curry = 0 ACHV Totals: Tim = 28 Kobe = 28 Magic = 20 Shaq = 19 Bird = 17 Curry = 9 Curry isn’t even close to the greats. Even when it comes to scoring, he’s #17 in Career Scoring per Game. BTW, when it comes to Achievement(ACHV) Totals, Jordan is #1 with 36 and LeBron is #2 with 30 When it comes to stats Wilt is #1, Jordan is #2, and LeBron is #3

Kobe retired and people suddenly put him on a pedestal . He died and suddenly he’s the goat . No . Kobe was all time great but Kobe was just as likely to shoot you out of a game as win it for you . He’s right where he belongs , #10

Should be top 20 at the most

The numbers don’t lie Oscar better

Oscar wasn’t stat padding like Westbrook lol he was just playing to win

fr I hope after this season people realize how overrated triple doubles are and how little they contribute to winning compared to what people actually think,

@@lilharold Oscar is basically if you threw Russ into that weak era tho. He’s not better than Kobe

@@Arturo_Kilgore_Morgan lol no it’s a reason Russ not in da top 75 and he is and kobe top 10 right where belong it’s not like it’s scrubs over him

#7 is enough respect for him

@@efrain926 Nah, he Top 5

Achievement (ACHV) Totals… NBA Titles: Tim = 5 Kobe = 5 Magic = 5 Shaq = 4 Bird = 3 Curry = 3 Finals MVPs: Tim = 3 Kobe = 2 Magic = 3 Shaq = 3 Bird = 2 Curry = 0 Season MVP: Tim = 2 Kobe = 1 Magic = 3 Shaq = 1 Bird = 3 Curry = 2 1st All-NBA: Tim = 10 Kobe = 11 Magic = 9 Shaq = 8 Bird = 9 Curry = 4 1st All-DEF: Tim = 8 Kobe = 9 Magic = 0 Shaq = 3 Bird = 0 Curry = 0 ACHV Totals: Tim = 28 Kobe = 28 Magic = 20 Shaq = 19 Bird = 17 Curry = 9 Curry isn’t even close to the greats. Even when it comes to scoring, he’s #17 in Career Scoring per Game. BTW, when it comes to Achievement(ACHV) Totals, Jordan is #1 with 36 and LeBron is #2 with 30 When it comes to stats Wilt is #1, Jordan is #2, and LeBron is #3

@Ta-Kuan Fuan I still think 7 fits him just right. I will never argue KD is ahead of Bird in anything. KD has a long way to go to be considered in the top 10, I don't he's getting in that club.

There's at least 5 players better than Kobe

No what r you on about

@Aaron9 exactly and why y’all hating on Lebron… the dude is a solid top 2 and can be 1 based on who is doing the list

i love kobe, but he isn't top 2.

I say you don't know basketball lol

Kyrie coming for that

LMAO no where near MJ AND Bron. Keep sucking tho

Most skilled he has a great case but the problem was he wasn’t as efficient as the other great perimeter scorers and that’s why he usually gets knocked lower.

@@datsapaddlin6449 idgaf about efficiency dude who cares😂

@@daytrue6995 I mean that matters if a player is inefficient it can hurt the team at times. He’s still great he just wasn’t efficient like MJ or Lebron. Why do you think most list are like this? I will say he’s top 5 in my book. Top 10 in general ain’t really a slight but I’d have him higher.

When Oscar Robertson did it there was no such thing as a triple double. It wasn’t until years later when his career was tallied that they realized how dominant Oscar was without chasing stats.

He played in a league that only had 8 teams..majority were unathletic white dudes...he was great tho

Im not defending the list, i dont think he should be top 10, but over his first 5 career years he averaged 30 10 and 10 rounding down. Something to think about, take what you want out of that.

@@trugee5848 watch jonny arnett he will show that it is a full false statement

@@joshjohnson7586 That doesn’t make him a top 10 player & it definitely doesn’t put him over Kobe

Everyone says that Kobe Bryant has Shaquille Gasol, but which of James' team-mates is not an all-star? The number of Champions is obtained by holding a group. Why is it second in history?

Wade, Bosh, Allen

So wouldn't Kobe top him since he won 5 rings in 10 years and made it to the finals against all those guys 3 years in a row 2 separate times??? Because most of the guys you listed weren't even in the league anymore when Duncan won his last ring and Kobe smoked them all in their prime...he should be over Duncan.

@@taraatkins4823 I’m just giving my argument that Duncan belongs in the Top 10. The order doesn’t matter since these were decided by the writers at submission. Monica slightly questioned Duncan belonging in there, that is all. I’m just saying winning consistency over a 19 year career should not be questioned for Duncan belonging in the Top 10.

Who do you take out of that top 10 to add Shaq? You can’t do a tie here

….think about this for a second he’s better than everybody outside of the top 4 and it really isn’t debatable. His prime didn’t last as long as some people on this list but when he was in his prime he reached a higher peak than anybody above the top 4 on that list.

@@vincemeyers2064 shaq said he is not better then Kobe … and Duncan isn’t either

@@daytrue6995 bruh he can say that all he wants his had a better prime 😂. Those guys might’ve had overall better career in totality but if we’re talking peak you can’t tell me Shaq isnt top 5 when it comes to who reached the highest peak of play 🤷‍♂️

Shaq over Oscar

Lol he couldn't even make the playoffs unless he had another franchise level big man in his team. Most overrated player ever honestly.

@@NoName-cn3cp Michael needed Scottie. Lebron needed Kyrie and Anthony Davis. So what's your point?

@@joshuahoward4221 Michael needed Scotty to make the playoffs? LeBron needs other franchise players to make the playoffs?

Those all defensive teams were underserved.

@@NoName-cn3cp but calling kobe the most overrated player ever. Are you denying that man's offensive and defensive game. 18 time all-star doesn't happen on accident.

Because lebron is the poster child I mean he lost more finals than Kobe but loves disrespect after he’s now gone is crazy

Kobe’s disrespect

Yessir people who saw Kobe play his whole career know this 💯

Yeah he said that bec he died. Kobe should be at number 10. That’s not bad number to be at

lmao magic johnson said a lot of players is better than he is… Magic is literally lakers bias magic is not credible

@@amartin4368 he said that before his death bud

@@shiro9112 very credible in fact

@@_The_Journey bruh magic literally said lakers will win championship when they were one of the worst teams in the nba and rebuilding

TD is top 3.

Ya but he was never as popular as kobe kobe was a fan favorite

Overrated. It’s mostly Pop. Stop making it sound like Timmy was the sole reason behind his 5 rings.

@@rpalmer274 popularity don’t make u better tim Duncan would be 6-0 if it wasn’t for bron and ray Allen

Oscar should not be top 10

Crazy Shaq has somehow become underrated

Shaq was a dominant force from 92-03. Duncan was dominant from 97-06…

Achievement (ACHV) Totals… NBA Titles: Tim = 5 Kobe = 5 Magic = 5 Shaq = 4 Bird = 3 Curry = 3 Finals MVPs: Tim = 3 Kobe = 2 Magic = 3 Shaq = 3 Bird = 2 Curry = 0 Season MVP: Tim = 2 Kobe = 1 Magic = 3 Shaq = 1 Bird = 3 Curry = 2 1st All-NBA: Tim = 10 Kobe = 11 Magic = 9 Shaq = 8 Bird = 9 Curry = 4 1st All-DEF: Tim = 8 Kobe = 9 Magic = 0 Shaq = 3 Bird = 0 Curry = 0 ACHV Totals: Tim = 28 Kobe = 28 Magic = 20 Shaq = 19 Bird = 17 Curry = 9 Curry isn’t even close to the greats. Even when it comes to scoring, he’s #17 in Career Scoring per Game. BTW, when it comes to Achievement(ACHV) Totals, Jordan is #1 with 36 and LeBron is #2 with 30 When it comes to stats Wilt is #1, Jordan is #2, and LeBron is #3

Shaq isn't even the best center omitted from the list. The Dream was better than him. It's not me, it's Shaq himself that told that.

@@g1lmk I believe shaq and Hakeem are the two best centers to ever play. It’s tough but I think shaq at his peak was better. Hakeem was definitely better in the early-mid 90’s but yeah I believe they both should be on the list. If I’m being honest, I truly believe the best players are Jordan, lebron, Kobe, Shaq, Durant, Hakeem, Duncan, magic, bird and *maybe Gianni’s at 10 when it’s all said and done. The dudes before the modern era couldn’t play like the guys in the modern era. I.E. Kareem, wilt, Oscar, jerry, Russell.

Bird has 3 rings not 4 sorry and bird would have 0 rings if he didn’t play on a superteam u might wanna go look at bird teammates 4 hof on his team and had a top 2-3 team of all time the 86 Celtics so stop the bs bird has played on superteam his whole career those are facts the 80s is the superteam era

Bird had 4 hof in their prime

@@melorileytv3408 all of KD s rings are from forming a super team. And Bird got his rings against the Lakers who also were a super team.

@Melo Riley Tv you don't think that Steph Curry, Klay Thompson and Draymond Green are locks for the Hall of fame? + Andre Iguodala has a good case considering he won FMVP.

@@melorileytv3408 People over that because he's whyt

Why should you do that? That only allows for people to get into the list just because they were best at their position, not necessarily because they are better than all other players in history

But Kobe also said Magic was the greatest Laker 🤷‍♂️

Agreed

Nah. Real top 10 is MJ, Lebron, Kareem, Magic, Bird, Duncan, Hakeem, Russell, Kobe, Hakeem.

Dude they didn’t have this energy when Kobe was playing.

@@spelllegacylikedeath9957 Kobe is overrated he ain't top 10

u right. He should be 11-12

VERY

@@JAYSPLASHMUSIC the hate is forreal and ill always wonder

I have Kobe at 9 at the lowest, and 6 or 7 if you highball him. Anything higher, or lower, I think is definitely wrong.

@@Mrballerize i mean there NBA players who rank kobe top 3 all time Kevin Durant has Kobe top 2 all time Tracy Mcgrady has kibe top 3...guys like iverson D wade drymond green Shaq have saud kobe is top 3....oh Michael jordan has numerous of times has siad Kobe is the only one on his level because he has his skill set ...so to act as if your opinion trumps all those greats is irony at its finest

Facts. Anytime I see a Kobe topic I just assume they bout to be on some BS & disrespect his legacy

Cause he Jordan 1.5. lol 😆

Disrespect is a understatement

Actually that's not true. ESPN and particularly has never had Kobe rated even in the top 5. You might have an individual guy like Mark Jackson who would question if he was good at Jordan but he was never anywhere near rated top three or even top 5. I can literally show you list from multiple Outlets and some of them didn't even have Kobe in the top 10. And this was like 10 or 12 years ago

@@str8duval We should let players do the rankings 😂

@@str8duval Incorrect. I don't care what ESPN's "lists" said, I'm talking about what they were saying on all the talk shows & the pre-Finals breakdowns & all over the sports world. Individual analysts CONSISTENTLY would debate him vs Jordan, and many would even throw out things like "he's the better offensive player" quite often. You can find clips of these debates all over the place. When Phil & Shaq left, Kobe dragged the Lakers with Smush Parker, Luke Walton, Kwame Brown, etc. to the playoffs & nearly beat the Suns on his own. People used to downplay that, but then over time you saw that narrative change too. Even without other stars, you need strong role players. People saw how stacked the West was, & Kobe stayed put anyway. Without any other star or capable role player, Lebron struggled even worse in the West. When AD & the squad was healthy, the won another title. I clearly remember these discussions, because at the time I *HATED* the guy. I'll be the first to admit being one of those guys who hated the top player for always keeping my favorites down. As a 6-13 year old, hated Jordan. As a 13-25 year old, hated Kobe. Since the minute he was playing, hated Brady. But I can at least respect them & give them their praise. They earned it.

@@corey2232 That time when Kobe and the Lakers blew a 3-1 lead?

@Prolific Officer Yeah but most the time he was playing super teams as the underdog or his team was hurt other than Dallas. It’s like criticizing Kobe for losing to the Celtics when Bynum was hurt or the Suns both times as the underdog or to twice the Jazz twice when he was younger. It makes no sense.

He is easily 10-13, Kob is top 5 period

I think he meant opposed to Shaq. Somebody has to go out if you let shaq in. I prefer you take Big O out but i think that's what he was referring to.

Thank you

yup i agree. people LOVE acting like they love kobe and worship him and then turn around and put him at #10. It's a joke. WE saw him play mf don't act like we didn't. He didn't play in the 50s or 60s ...

It’s his play style and mindset that are identical to mj. But he never achieved the level of performance MJ did. That’s statistically a fact. But he should be absolutely in the top 10 around 7-10 spot.

It’s only 1 person Im saying better than “Ko8e”

@@millardfilmore1403 The problem always comes down to the numbers. Visually he was the closest to MJ. When you dig and find that he has the most misses in NBA history without taking the most shots, the inefficiency ends up biting his legacy. I love Kobe, but I think that's where he always loses ground.

He got 1 mvp and 2 fmvps that's not Jordan like

The two Mickey Mouse ring Hakeem? 🐭 That fraud?

Agreed.

true statement. I am not a Stephen A fan but "this is a tough list".

I totally forgot about Hakeem. Mans was a monster

The starting point to be considered a top 10 player should be a multi time champion. Big O while a great player only has one

Yeah Oscar is not top 11 probably top 15 tho

Its ESPN. Their rankings are always a joke

Achievement (ACHV) Totals… NBA Titles: Tim = 5 Kobe = 5 Magic = 5 Shaq = 4 Curry = 3 Finals MVPs: Tim = 3 Kobe = 2 Magic = 3 Shaq = 3 Curry = 0 Season MVP: Tim = 2 Kobe = 1 Magic = 3 Shaq = 1 Curry = 2 1st All-NBA: Tim = 10 Kobe = 11 Magic = 9 Shaq = 8 Curry = 4 1st All-DEF: Tim = 8 Kobe = 9 Magic = 0 Shaq = 3 Curry = 0 ACHV Totals. Tim = 28 Kobe = 28 Magic = 20 Shaq = 19 Curry = 9 Curry isn’t even close to the greats. Even when it comes to scoring, he’s #17 in Career Scoring per Game. BTW, when it comes to Achievement(ACHV) Totals, Jordan is #1 with 36 and LeBron is #2 with 30 When it comes to stats Wilt is #1, Jordan is #2, and LeBron is #3

Larry Bird,Magic Johnson ,Oscar ,Wilt they aren't better than Kobe

Truth be told, no one on that list is better than Kobe was aside from Jordan, so I'm annoyed. Then again, it's an ESPN list, so it's a joke.

@I Side Effect I Kobe's record against Timmy's spurs in playoffs is 18-12 😂

They ain’t even put Shaq in the top 10 😂. I know he hot rn 😅

@@emotionaldamage4401 you mean Kobe and Shaq record lol

Don't be ridiculous.. out of hundreds of all-time great players being put at number 10 is far from being disrespected. And No, his postgame and footwork alone does not automatically put him in number 7 lol.

@I Side Effect I I’m taking Hakeem over Duncan to be honest. Rings don’t mean you are a better player. Duncan had the better career because his team was stacked with talent but Hakeem was the greater player. I feel the same with Wilt and Bill Russell. He used to Kill Bill.

The Kobe disrespect has been going on for so long it’s crazy! You’re right, I would love to see a players list

Top 5 dead or alive

🙋🏿🙋🏿🙋🏿 Hey my good brother, I have to respectfully disagree. I love Kobe to death, but I view him as a copycat MJ. I can't put two of the same players in my top 3.

@@MambaBlackOP big facts

@@MambaBlackOP I respect what you say but the list is not about who is the most unique player of all time. Had that been the criteria you could have an argument there and the list would have been completely different , but the question is who was the best …. Even MJ himself said at Kobe’s very first all start game “that laker boy gon take anyone 1 on 1 … “ and Kobe wasn’t even at his peak then …. Greatness recognizes greatness … and the fact is that Kobe was the only one who came anywhere near MJ greatness.. he even droped a 50 piece on his biggest mentor as a farewell gift. Competition is not necessarily about being the most unique or most inventive … it’s simply about destroying your opponent and no1 apart from Mike could do it better than Kobe ;)

Why Because his Gone you 🤡 😅

Yea I bet you think nipsey hussle was a great rapper too

@@vensonj G.O.A.T. comment

@@chrismendez1770 yall are both 🤡's and im not from LA kid I just know the game of basketball

@@dripreapers kobe is ten all time sorry but he was overrated he never won nothing if he wasn't being carried by superstar big men like shaq and Pau .

No holes lol he shot 44% Jordan shot 49%

Lebron shot 50.8

@@B.Piercesports because LB does mostly put-backs, layups and dunks.

@@retrosoul8770 what lol how come he got more 3s than kobe then?

@@B.Piercesports I did say "most" of his field goal attempts are those 3ft and under from the basket which are more efficient, easier shots. Kobe spent most of his career before 3s took off with Steph Curry and is much more and better of an outside post shooter compared to Bron. But it's interesting to note he still attempted 500+ less 3s than Bron despite them playing around the same number of games.

More Regular season mvp, more finals mvp, same amount of finals, same amount of rings, Duncan was dominated for a longer period of time. Won a chip in 1999 and last chip in 2013 while Kobe teams was struggling.Never had a losing season. Went to more finals

@@Johenz Kobe’s better stop also got yoinked out of more MVPs

Duncan 5 rings so dont matter if he never repeated Kobe Bryant never won atleast 3 finals mvps Durant better player then Kobe anyday Finals Mvps ( individual player) Duncan 3 Kobe 2 League Mvps ( individual player) Duncan 2 Kobe 1 Total Mvps ( league and finals) Duncan 5 Kobe 3 Field goal% Duncan 50.6% Kobe 44.7% Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant Bleacher report has Kobe #14 Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in NBA history isnt even top 10

@@SonGoku-xz8mm Kobe Bryant didnt get yoinked out of anything stop the lies Duncan better player then Kobe anyday Finals Mvps ( individual player) Duncan 3 Kobe 2 League Mvps ( individual player) Duncan 2 Kobe 1 Total Mvps ( league and finals) Duncan 5 Kobe 3 Rookie of the year Duncan Yes Kobe No Field goal% Duncan 50.6% Kobe 44.7% Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant Bleacher report has Kobe #14 Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in NBA history isnt even top 9 player all time

@@Johenz Duncan didn’t dominate for a longer period tho. Duncan’s prime was from like 99-07. While Kobe was from like 00-13. Duncan lost in the 1st round 3 times in career and Kobe only did twice. The difference was Kobe was playing on terrible rosters that tbh had no business even making the playoffs while Duncan and the Spurs were losing as favorites (09’, 11’). In 11’ Duncan lost as #1 seeds to a 8 seed (only happened 1 other time in NBA history). When it comes to Total accolades (MVPs, FMVPs, Chips, Stat Leader, DPOY, ROY, All NBA, All Defense, All-Star selections, All Star MVPs, etc.) It’s close, Kobe has 61 to Duncan’s 58. When it comes WINNING head to head matchups in the playoffs (where it matters most), Kobe won 4 out of 6 vs Duncan. Kobe always torched the Spurs and was almost always the best player in the series. As far as EYE TEST, Kobe was the best offensive player and one of the better defenders in the NBA at times during his career. Kobe was getting 1st team defense while also being a league leader in scoring. Duncan can’t say that. The gap that exists between Duncan’s offense and Kobe’s offense is bigger than the gap that exist between Duncan’s defense and Kobe’s defense.

Couldn’t have said it Better bro!

Facts - people forget this. Larry and Magic saved the league and MJ made it international along with early euro players

This comment here is the problems with y’all fans. You actually said Magic was equal to Bird when Magic literally beat Bird way more times in the finals then he beat him. He actually been to the finals and won more chips than him. How are they equal?? They were rivals. That’s doesn’t mean they were equal.

@@WEGOTBUCKSENT365 magic was running through an easier conference in the playoffs as well as having a bit of a better supporting cast in Kareem and worthy. Magic might have lasted a little longer with birds back giving out but bird won 3 straight mvps when they were in their primes

@@WEGOTBUCKSENT365 you really don't know basketball... Magic played on what was at the time the most stacked dynasty ever assembled in the sport

You know Oscar never even had an all star teammate until the bucks drafted Kareem now imagine trying to win a championship against the Celtics dynasty that featured 14 hall of famers or wilt chamberlain or The Knicks and your second best player is a plumber

Achievement (ACHV) Totals… NBA Titles: Tim = 5 Kobe = 5 Magic = 5 Shaq = 4 Curry = 3 Finals MVPs: Tim = 3 Kobe = 2 Magic = 3 Shaq = 3 Curry = 0 Season MVP: Tim = 2 Kobe = 1 Magic = 3 Shaq = 1 Curry = 2 1st All-NBA: Tim = 10 Kobe = 11 Magic = 9 Shaq = 8 Curry = 4 1st All-DEF: Tim = 8 Kobe = 9 Magic = 0 Shaq = 3 Curry = 0 ACHV Totals. Tim = 28 Kobe = 28 Magic = 20 Shaq = 19 Curry = 9 Curry isn’t even close to the greats. Even when it comes to scoring, he’s #17 in Career Scoring per Game. BTW, when it comes to Achievement(ACHV) Totals, Jordan is #1 with 36 and LeBron is #2 with 30 When it comes to stats Wilt is #1, Jordan is #2, and LeBron is #3

@@handymanwitthatool2787 The plumber bit was brilliant. 😁

@@pancon5 thank you 😁

Kobe😂😂😂😂😂

so shaq is one of the greatest shooters of all time with your dumb logic

Achievement (ACHV) Totals… NBA Titles: Tim = 5 Kobe = 5 Magic = 5 Shaq = 4 Bird = 3 Curry = 3 Finals MVPs: Tim = 3 Kobe = 2 Magic = 3 Shaq = 3 Bird = 2 Curry = 0 Season MVP: Tim = 2 Kobe = 1 Magic = 3 Shaq = 1 Bird = 3 Curry = 2 1st All-NBA: Tim = 10 Kobe = 11 Magic = 9 Shaq = 8 Bird = 9 Curry = 4 1st All-DEF: Tim = 8 Kobe = 9 Magic = 0 Shaq = 3 Bird = 0 Curry = 0 ACHV Totals: Tim = 28 Kobe = 28 Magic = 20 Shaq = 19 Bird = 17 Curry = 9 Curry isn’t even close to the greats. Even when it comes to scoring, he’s #17 in Career Scoring per Game. BTW, when it comes to Achievement(ACHV) Totals, Jordan is #1 with 36 and LeBron is #2 with 30 When it comes to stats Wilt is #1, Jordan is #2, and LeBron is #3

He’s 6-8

He accomplished less in his career than Jordan LeBron Kareem and Magic and Duncan… he’s the most similar to Jordan in terms of mentality and playing style which is why so many people overrate him when realistically he’s like 5-7 all time

@@fahimabrar277 he hadn’t accomplished less what are you talking about?

Stfu Played for a legendary organization with five or six other Hall of Fame is plus a Hall of Fame coach in his rookie season he played with another Hall of Fame center stfu bro lol 😂 LeBron stays in Cleveland he never wins

Duncan better than Bron? Lmaoo y’all are getting besides yourselves

@@not_da2159 no cap

@Rick Sin so you’re just going to forget about the fact that he play with Robinson who was definitely a Hall of Famer at the time Plus let’s not sit here and act like the San Antonio Spurs were a horrible organization when Duncan came in

@Rick Sin I’ll give you that 💯 And in my opinion Timmy should be top 5 but that’s just me 🤷🏽‍♂️

There’s more to ball than scoring. Kobe’s best scoring year the lakers lost in the first round to the suns.

@@dominickwilliams3757 LeBron avg a triple dub in the finals and got swept, what's your point?

@@QSLIMQ what is your point? Dude said he’ll drop 30 on anyone so i told him scoring isn’t everything

@@dominickwilliams3757 apparently rebounding and assists either bcuz both experienced the same result.

@@QSLIMQ LeBron would never lose first round in his prime.

factual

Continued disrespect 🤦🏻‍♂️. Kobe is number 2 in my book.

@@charliedcho Kobe is number 2 not only in your book. Just ask the players who not on Klutch payroll yet.

@@charliedcho Kobe is either #2 or top 5 in many people's list including international fans. I've been to several countries, and the people I asked put him in high regards. It is only the media that discredits him to boost LeBron.

Kobe is top 10 bro ... relax

Disrespectful

They always hate on Tim Duncan its not even funny... The pure disrespect smh

100% Tim Duncan so underrated. Man NEVER MISSED THE PLAYOFFS!!! On top of that, the distance between him and the next Power Forward of all time is so much greater than any other position. With literally every other position, you can have legitimate debates as to who is the greatest. Everybody knows that Tim Duncan is the greatest PF of all time there is no debate there. Kobe is amazing, but the consistency Tim Duncan had and his ability to do just about everything whether that be shoot, assist, dribble, rebound, block, steal, etc.

Just because he isn't always in the media doesn't mean he should be underrated or forgot about. It's the same thing that we have discussions about when you try to erase parts of a country's history by not talking about it or pulling down statues. Just because those public monuments are no longer there doesn't mean that the people who they represented didn't exist and the history didn't happen and both the good and bad don't deserve to be talked about and all of a sudden they no longer deserve their monuments for the good they did in history just because there were certain bad things about them, like slaveholding presidents or Sir John A. Macdonald and residential schools who still did a lot of good for their respective countries and deserve public monuments. We should continue discussions about these topics while also mentioning their flaws, and the same thing applies here. Larry Bird chose to keep quiet after retirement and that doesn't mean that we should forget about him or disrespect him. Just because Larry has been fairly quiet and not going after big business ventures in retirement like Magic has, doesn't mean that he should stopped being talked about and be underrated. You don't need to be a showman to be a good NBA athlete. Magic is amazing, but Bird is either slightly better, just as good, or slightly below him. They're 1a and 1b. There's ALOT of recency bias in this list.

Yeah she has no idea what she is talking about. Achievement (ACHV) Totals… NBA Titles: Tim = 5 Kobe = 5 Magic = 5 Shaq = 4 Bird = 3 Curry = 3 Finals MVPs: Tim = 3 Kobe = 2 Magic = 3 Shaq = 3 Bird = 2 Curry = 0 Season MVP: Tim = 2 Kobe = 1 Magic = 3 Shaq = 1 Bird = 3 Curry = 2 1st All-NBA: Tim = 10 Kobe = 11 Magic = 9 Shaq = 8 Bird = 9 Curry = 4 1st All-DEF: Tim = 8 Kobe = 9 Magic = 0 Shaq = 3 Bird = 0 Curry = 0 ACHV Totals: Tim = 28 Kobe = 28 Magic = 20 Shaq = 19 Bird = 17 Curry = 9 Curry isn’t even close to the greats. Neither is Durant whose Achievement totals are at 11 BTW, when it comes to Achievement(ACHV) Totals, Jordan is #1 with 36 and LeBron is #2 with 30. Which means Duncan and Kobe are in the Top 5 When it comes to stats Wilt is #1, Jordan is #2, and LeBron is #3

You left out the evolution of the game, but I'm with you a %1,000!

That don’t say much either lol cause if ya go off that then go look at wilt & Russell’s era . There was literally just 2 teams dominating the entire league at that time . Lakers, Celtics… the competition wasn’t good .. which is why they dominated the way they did .. the talent pool wasn’t as high so wilt & Russell would just rag doll everyone .

@@pablojuan7960 exactly the point...they're way ahead of their peers, that's why they are great...saying that they just had poor competition is just an assumption because you're comparing them to the greats of that era...

Achievement (ACHV) Totals… NBA Titles: Tim = 5 Kobe = 5 Shaq = 4 Curry = 3 Finals MVPs: Tim = 3 Kobe = 2 Shaq = 3 Curry = 0 Season MVP: Tim = 2 Kobe = 1 Shaq = 1 Curry = 2 1st All-NBA: Tim = 10 Kobe = 11 Shaq = 8 Curry = 4 1st All-DEF: Tim = 8 Kobe = 9 Shaq = 3 Curry = 0 ACHV Totals. Tim = 28 Kobe = 28 Shaq = 19 Curry = 9 Curry isn’t even close to the greats. Even when it comes to scoring, he’s #17 in Career Scoring per Game. BTW, when it comes to Achievement(ACHV) Totals, Jordan is #1 with 36 and LeBron is #2 with 30 When it comes to stats Wilt is #1, Jordan is #2, and LeBron is #3

I feel u but everyone wants to know that one dude that you can just say He WAS The Best and I don’t blame em 🤷‍♂️

Larry Bird should be moved to 11 behind Shaq Durant Kobe and Oscar

@@signsofthetimestvhq1134 no f'n way. Shaq was lazy. He did this to himself.

@@georgejohnson3859 Shaq played 8 years longer than Bird. Bird had a fragile back and only 9 good years, whyteboys have inferiorr genes

bringing up race doesn't make your argument. Bird hurt is back fixing his Mom's property. That doesn't happen today. Plus their were tragic events to Celtics players that ended Bird being a role player on great teams. Bird was still better and more impactful. Shaq should be #1 easy but he didn't want it. It's that simple.

Larry Bird is easily top 10 (2nd best sf to ever play the game)

@Reign Supreme LOL Dr.J was Jordan before Jordan. He should be there. He gave the ABA his all, and still had enough juice merging w the NBA to inspire Magic, Mj and a host of others who would propel the NBA to its popular status.

I agree

Ya that was the worst take of his career 🤦‍♂️ Kevin Durant is a perennial loser despite having only superteams to play on

KD is also never healthy …I’m taking bird over him any day because bird was tough and played through injuries to win