Kobe Bryant is 10th on the GOAT list, should he be ranked higher? I NBA I SPEAK FOR YOURSELF 

Yes but when you look at the argument yes Larry Bird was phenomenal however he had John Stockton and two other Hall of famers on his team for the 13 years that he played

Wiley needs to banned off TV for saying Kobe not top ten stick to football you have always been a Kobe hater so no need to front cause he gone

Another things is this you wanna put Duncan over Kobe Duncan was a center playing pf cause he did want that wreck with Shaq Kobe used to punish Duncan and the spurs with or without Shaq stop it

ocho we are better because those before you. Give me a break put respect on the legends names dude.

This some bs! Duncan wasn’t better than kobe

no way duncan was better than shaq

hakeem is better than shaq, but shaq should be ahead of kobe for sure

Replace Big O with Shaq for me

@@youraverage90sguys7 Hakeem was great but Shaq literally changed the game. From the rules to the equipment being used, nothing was the same after Shaq came into the league. People remember him as the immobile fat guy barely able to dunk. Look at Shaqs Orlando years. The highlights alone show how superior he was to every big man in the game.

@@thebenc1537 ive seen shaq play, but if he himself and mj both rank hakeem higher, im gonna go with that guy instead. its not like hakeem was some scrub of a center, he could hold his own against shaq as one of very few people. winning record against mj and won titles without a super team (people pretend as if that didnt exist back in the day)

My boy!!! I’ve been saying this forever like Lebron played with 8 players who’s definitely HOF but he’s number 2 when MJ played with 1 n Kobe played with 2 🤔

Like LBJ

I think it's bc Shaq is a top 10 player all time himself. Back then, the Lakers obviously had the best team with Kobe and Shaq, but I'm not positive that Kobe was better than Shaq. They're both top 10 all time imo.

Thing is Shaq was better than kobe. Shaq won all 3 finals mvps when they played together.

@@qdontae6 lol mj played with 4 other hofers all on one team at the same time. Pippen, rodman, kukoc, and Robert parish. 2 of those guys won rings before the bulls by beating mj in the playoffs. And kobe lol... Shaq won all 3 finals mvps, meaning kobe wasn't even the most valuable player on his own team for most of his rings. Can u imagine Dwayne Wade winning every finals mvp when bron was in Miami? Lol

Facts but we all know why he didn’t get more

@@qdontae6 and why is that? Don’t say race. Wilt scored 100 and averaged 50 during this era

stop it little boy. Respect your history.

@@JT-xp3in stop ignoring facts little man

@@MensIntelligenceAgency same era LMAO that 100 point game was back in the 60's and it tells me all I need to know for your knowledge on this game

Yup, even in what’s considered Kobe’s lowest moment, 2004 finals, he was chasing Rip all over the court on D making it an absolute nightmare for him. But that gets buried under the rug

How about Hakeem Olajuwon? Hakeem is better than Kobe.

Leflop not even fit for top 5, i would rank leflop 8th, while kobe 7th

How about him being a ball hog, but number 1 in assist in SG position

@@kennethli8 go to sleep and dream, 2 chips aint better than 5

Pau Gasol isn’t even eligible for the Hall of Fame yet..? He will be in the Hall of Fame…

Respect to Kobe, but after Shaq was traded, Kobe missed the playoffs, and hovered around the 6-8th seed until Gasol got there.

@@2Faded247 you acting like it was 10 years it was literally 3 the first year The Lakers missed the Playoffs by like 3 games and Kobe missed about 17 games also Lamar Odom missed 19 games then the next 2 Years Kobe dragged teams that had no business in the playoffs to the playoffs and took a Suns team that won 60 games to 7 games with Lamar Odom as his only other quality player and even he was inconsistent Not to mention it wasn't just Shaq leaving the whole team was rebuilt If we gonna tell the story let's use context

Facts preach. As great as gasol was he ain't on the list but he maybe a hof one day.

Pau is a hall of famer and the Lakers had the best frontcourt in the league with pau, lamar and bynum. Not to mention a great defensive player in ron artest. As usual people love to downgrade these players teammates who were good

He's number 2 on my list

kobe top 2 lol.

@@ricardoalvarez8415 lol he's right where they got him ranked. Stop smoking rocks.

@@jmcgee39 He mopped the floor with Timmy Dunked-On... Blocked MJ 3 different and dropped 55 on MJ's head... Kobe GOAT 🐐 Man 💜💛

@@quirinogarza7381 this is the worst arguments i have ever seen in my entire life 😂😂😂😂

Yeah. Younger folks think he was just a shooter. They don't realize what type of all around game he had.

You know that’s right. Bird was a beast on an incredible team.

Bill Russell is.

@@hitek9too255 Dude has awards named after him. He is in a ton of peoples top 10, but because of how long ago he played he is definitely being overlooked more today than 20 years ago.

I agree Bird is…..but he’s still not better than Kobe Bryant idgaf what yal talkin bout 🤷🏽‍♂️💯

it was also a little different back then bc guys did 3-4 years in college, they came into the league much more developed. bird and magic were top 5 players as rookies, Kareem and Bill Walton were the best players in the world while they were still in college. it's interesting to see how many more top players nowadays were not top 5 picks or not even lottery picks, it's so much harder to draft well with 19 year olds

You can just as easily say Duncan did the same tho, to all those players and Kobe

@@hardwoodthought1213 he only did that to Kobe twice. Kobe sent Duncan home 4 times tf you talkin bout

@@Truthbeing888 Cprrection, Shaw with Kobe sent Duncan home 3 times. As his teams best player he beat Duncan once

@@hardwoodthought1213 no KOBE beat them Spurs go watch those games foh boy

@@Truthbeing888 Getting played straight up in single coverage whilst Shaq was doubled by Duncan and Robinson? Yeah, Kobe got his, but 80% of the defensive focus was paid to stopping Shaq. Either way, the point isn’t really who was betters, it was that for 3 of the 4 series wins Kobe had the far superior team. Duncan’s best help in 01/02/04 was what? A rookie Tony Parker? David Robinson on his last legs?

Couldn't agree more

Facts…they not just like dumb skip bayless. Rings FMVPS and losses determine greatness. Steph not top 20 all time?..wtf🤦🏽‍♂️

How is race baiting and hating on Larry Bird just cause he's the one white guy on the list intelligent conversation??? I mean really now...

@@mylaughingeffect3459 If losses determine greatness why is Lebron 2nd? Cause last time I saw he's lost more than Kobe, Duncan and Bird COMBINED!!!

@@mylaughingeffect3459 wait...Steph not top 20 all time? Did Skip actually say that?

Kyrie wouldn’t have a ring without lebron, bosh doesn’t get two without lebron, AD doesn’t get a ring without lebron.

@@connerwittig9288 the thing is Pau Gasol isnt a top75 player

Duncan got swept and Kobe did also

lmao and kobe was not the best player in his first 3 lmao your delusional to think kobe is over duncan also magic is unquestionably top 5 all time dude played 13 years and won 5 he is the goat laker by far

@@Steven-lt5yu Kareem is better

EXACTLY

He's a Kobe hater

Wade is a guard who played during the same era and averaged 25-30 points on 48-50% shooting.

Kobe also scored a lot on fade aways and shooting contested shots. It is what it is. The truth is 2-10 are interchangeable imo. You can argue Kobe over any of those guys and you can also argue any of those guys over Kobe. Jordan is number one.

@@Christopher._M Kobe shot over 4,000 more shot attempts from 3 and has an overall more diverse scoring game than wade. So him only being 2% less in field goal pct is still very good

Df? If anyone got disrespected it’s Lebron, he should be higher.

@@LeChina foh. kobe over bird and bron. yall bronsexuals need to stop

@@GunsNGames248 Exactly, Thank You!👏🏾

Kobe waxing Bird and Big O ... respectfully

@@LeChina lower

🤣🤣🤣 good one

Good thing we didn’t ask you

kobe is not the Goat. But he is #7.....NOT #10

@@BrandonClark-StocksPassports Nah, Kobe definitely #3.

Nah but i do think kobe was definitely better than LeBron for sure, So kobe should be number 2 most definitely!

whihc is why when kobe guarded players, and he locked em down, it should be viewed as an even greater achievement

Or uses logic instead of being emtional

The same media you're watching trying to move him up the list. Shaq was the best player when he played with Kobe.

Media hated Kareem more than any of these guys on the list and he is top-3

That’s a bullseye take my man

THANK YOU

LOL! Yup. If Bird was althletic, he'd literally be the perfect basketball player! He didn't when 3 straight MVPs in the NBA's Golden era by accident.

But was he better than Kobe absolutely not

His magic was always on offense. Kobe was a lock down defender. Remember him locking up tony Parker when NOBODY could

@@biggboi3932 Rebounding is a part of defense you know, and Kobe was no where near the rebounder he was. He was also a team defender and was super annoying at locking down passing lanes. I'm not knocking Kobe, he was an awesome player, but Bird did things that were just ridiculous. And I say that not as a Bird fan, but as a Lakers fan who at the time hated that guy for how super annoying he was to play against :p

@@benadek6703 yes he was

Agreed and agreed. Big O shouldn't be top 10. Hakeem and Shaq should definitely be ahead of him and possibly Moses Malone.

He can’t “guard” them, but he’s a good team defender helping the weak side/dunkers spot who can stop big man with his athletic ability/agility as well as power to stop possessions for big man. He’ll never or super rare he’ll guard actual great centers in the post.

You missed the series vs pacers Hibbert. That year he should’ve been dpoy. I think gasol won that year but didn’t make first team all defense. Riddle me that

You must just started watching basketball and that’s cool. He don’t do it as much cause he’s 37. So your research homie

He does play all positions, in fact he's played a lot of center this year. But let's be realistic, he's 37 years old so he's not going to go get physical with dominant centers in the post on every play

Didn't LeBron get ate up by Rafer Alston in that Orlando series they lost when Jamer Nelson was hurt! The back up! Skip to my Lou. Oh my bad they going to act like that didn't happen but look the games up

The man had little help toward the end of his career too. I don't get the disrespect.

Atlantic top 75 greatest NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 4. Bill Russell 5. Magic Johnson 6. Wilt Chamberlain 7. Larry Bird 8. Shaquille O'Neal 9. Tim Duncan 10. Kobe Bryant PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3pt%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron PER: LeBron WS/48: LeBron VORP: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) LeBron a better player then Kobe Field goal% LeBron 50.5%✔️ Kobe 44.7% Points scored career LeBron 36,559✔️ Kobe 33,643 Most missed shots in NBA history 1. Kobe Bryant 14,481 2. John Havlicek 13,417 3. Elvin Hayes 13,296 LeBron more points then Kobe Kobe more missed shots then LeBron Total 3pointers made LeBron 2093✔️ Kobe 1827 Total Steals career LeBron 2,128✔️ Kobe 1,944 Total Blocks career LeBron 1,022✔️ Kobe 640 Defensive win shares LeBron 75.62✔️ Kobe 50.66 Assists Leader LeBron 1✔️ Kobe 0 Career highs Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record Career highs LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record Playoffs game winning buzzer beaters LeBron 5✔️ Kobe 1 2010 NBA finals Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points 2013 NBA finals Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points Pippen 6 rings > Kobe 5 rings so having more team awards rings dont mean better player Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and carried Kobe Bryant to 3 sidekick rings 2000 NBA final Lakers 4 Pacers 2 Kobe 15.6 ppg and 36.7% fg and 20% 3pt carried by Shaq 38.0 ppg and 61.1% fg and 16 rebs and finals mvp Mavericks 4-0 swept Kobe in 2011 NBA playoffs LeBron 16-6 winning record owns Kobe in 22 career meetings Jordan > LeBron > Shaq > Kobe Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in NBA history isnt even top 10 player all time

@@kerrybase8037 lebron played way more games than kobe what do you want me to say!? Kobe had worse teams and still they where competing. Lebron only could shoot from 15 ft and most where layups amd dunks...... I don't need to show you all the stats to prove kobe was better. Lebron went thru the east that was a nightmare for 5 to 7 years..... your stats mean nothing. Lebron is a stat padder what had lebron done in the last 2 years with a loaded team. You sound ignorant there is no argument. Ask any player ask Jordan himself. Without kobe there would be no Shaq and vice-versa. Lebron had wade and Bosch also had kyrie and love. Jordan had pippin and Rodman. I don't need to write a book or novel like you did to explain lebrons greatness he okay but he ain't kobe or Mike.

@@chrisromeo6277 They not my stats they LeBron and Kobe individual stats and they say that LeBron better player then Kobe so try again Kobesexual I dont have to ask Jordan anything because when both LeBron and Kobe individual stats compared they say that LeBron better then Kobe LeBron higher 3point% then Kobe in regular season, playoffs, NBA finals so that destroys the narrative outside of 15 ft 🤣 You dont have any stats that show Kobe Bryant better thats why you cant show them Kobesexual you have no evidence thats why So only arguments you will make will be emotional and subjective based for Kobe Bryant Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in NBA history 14,481 isnt even top 10 player all time Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant Bleacher report has Kobe #14 Kobe Bryant had Shaquille O'Neal, Glen Rice, Pau Gasol, Andrew Bynum, Lamar Odom, Ron Artest and Phil Jackson

@@kerrybase8037 Nice copy and paste. Get out and find a job.

Talk to them

I guess Odom, Bynum, Metta and Fisher werent there right.

Kobe could barely even sniff a playoff win and wanted to leave LA before Gasol came. You act like he carried the man.

@@17thNO All good players but all of them only won with Kobe.. the first year they went to the ship against the Celtics they Pau/Bynum only played 25-35 games… they were already a top seed before the trade so year Kobe was coming into his own… the next year Bynum only played 35 games when they won the ship, and meta was only there for the last ship and was averaging like 10 pts that wasn’t the Ron Artest from Indy

@@Kubisi All I'm asking would he have won those championships without those players? I think you know the answer. He was there without those players from 05-07 why not then. He was averaging 30 and 35 ppg. I know that's your guy but the truth is the truth. Also he played several years after that why no more rings, including getting swept by the Mavericks in 2011?

@@Ratchetface Kobe put the team on his back even with Shaq on the team in the regular season and playoffs. Never forget Kobe bailed the team out in multiple playoff games where the lakers could have been eliminated!

@@Ellis1993 shaw won the fmvps i believe.

@@truthdr6735 so against the pacers when they keep fouling Shaq and he kept missing free throws boy couldn’t make a coconut in the pool if he wanted to. To the point where he got frustrated in the playoffs against the pacers and Kobe said he got this and single handle smoked Reggie and his boys

People be talking bout efficiency but when you get triple team and when you play through numerous injuries and you be having to score wit just your left hand it’s kinda difficult don’t you think

Kobe top 3 💯✅ list is dirt

Atlantic top 75 greatest NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 4. Bill Russell 5. Magic Johnson 6. Wilt Chamberlain 7. Larry Bird 8. Shaquille O'Neal 9. Tim Duncan 10. Kobe Bryant PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3pt%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron PER: LeBron WS/48: LeBron VORP: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) LeBron a better player then Kobe Field goal% LeBron 50.5%✔️ Kobe 44.7% Points scored career LeBron 36,559✔️ Kobe 33,643 Most missed shots in NBA history 1. Kobe Bryant 14,481 2. John Havlicek 13,417 3. Elvin Hayes 13,296 LeBron more points then Kobe Kobe more missed shots then LeBron Total 3pointers made LeBron 2093✔️ Kobe 1827 Total Steals career LeBron 2,128✔️ Kobe 1,944 Total Blocks career LeBron 1,022✔️ Kobe 640 Defensive win shares LeBron 75.62✔️ Kobe 50.66 Assists Leader LeBron 1✔️ Kobe 0 Career highs Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record Career highs LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record Playoffs game winning buzzer beaters LeBron 5✔️ Kobe 1 2010 NBA finals Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points 2013 NBA finals Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points Pippen 6 rings > Kobe 5 rings so having more team awards rings dont mean better player Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and carried Kobe Bryant to 3 sidekick rings 2000 NBA final Lakers 4 Pacers 2 Kobe 15.6 ppg and 36.7% fg and 20% 3pt carried by Shaq 38.0 ppg and 61.1% fg and 16 rebs and finals mvp Mavericks 4-0 swept Kobe in 2011 NBA playoffs LeBron 16-6 winning record owns Kobe in 22 career meetings Jordan > LeBron > Shaq > Kobe Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in NBA history isnt even top 10 player all time

Logic matters and the Owners vetoed the trade because Chris Paul was on an expansion team owned by the NBA. It had nothing to do with Kobe, it was about protecting the expansion teams. Kobe had Shaq and Phil for half his career, he should be happy he didn’t get drafted to Philly and end up like Iverson

So true

Shocked this comment only had 11 likes. Ty for highlighting that.

@@terrystyles3486 how many top 75 player did Kobe play with? How many all defensive teams did Kobe make? Because last time that I checked basketball is a two way sport. How times was Kobe the only option on his team? Stop trying to tear down another man’s legacy to build up another…

Bird had HOF TEAM 1-5...that helped

Where is Shaq a top 10 player like he had a 6 year great stretch of basketball. Was very limited, he's barely in the top 5 Centers of all time and was the most less skilled of them top big men.

Shaq’s lack of longevity hurts him… He was basically Rasho Nesterovic at the end of his career.

@@cheez333 Rasho the last 3 seasons indeed 😭🤣

@@Mercurial. For basically 12 years, Shaq averaged 27 pts and 12 boards with 2 blocks. Over 12 yearssss not 6 and Shaq was more skilled than bill russell but not the other great great centers. I will give you that but Shaq wasn’t just power. He could move, had moves in the post and would run the floor.

Exactly. It’s all about narrative.

Kobe is a eye blink lessor than Jordan - due to Jordan improved Kobe's game. Who scored 80 plus points in 1 Game. Kobe's number 2 it 1 on any list. There lucky D Rose got hurt. Lebron has had a all star team and still can't get it done. Love Tim Duncan also and wade was a beast

@@warrenbarfield7069 it’s ridiculous how the self appointed “goat” needs soooo much help for him to win. Look at dirk or Gianni’s. They had great role players but no other bonafide star. And no I don’t consider Middleton a superstar. He is borderline allstar. He only makes the Allstar games due to giannis

Except Malone also proved he could score before Stockton even became a starter & after he retired. They were just THAT good in the pick & roll which they revolutionized. However, I agree on everything else. If Kobe isn't top 10 then your list is fraudulent.

No sir, you are trippin.

Nah your overrating him. He only has 2 finals mvps.

@@antoniosciarappa1453 😂😂😂

@@LeChina 😂😂🙏🏻

Only player above Kobe is arguably mike

He claims he had respect for Kobe It's funny he never talked like that when Kobe was living. That's why I say a lot of these media outlets are jokes some people fake and act like they like you. In reality now that he's gone he's going to say how he really feels.

Bill also did things outside the Court that made players have the oppurtunities they have now, not only that, while Bill did have a HOF team, he pushed them up to that level. And he managed to slow or even stop Wilt the stilt. If we go by stats, thats outside my expertise, but as for things he did, i can see why he's so high. Bill Russell is so much more than his rings. And its sad that people forget that.

@@Darksky1001able If we factoring the character aspect then there's no argument against Kareem as the GOAT.

Brother those stats are not fabricated...the numbers don't lie and kobe had one of the worst shooting percentage amongst guards

@@Big7wardnola just like LeBron finals record

and whos not ??

My top 10 is in no order mj, lebron, kareem, shaq,bird, Duncan, Russell, magic, wilt, Kobe. I have kobe at 10 and i think if curry wins his 4th and a fmvp he will take his spot

@@marcuscarpenter7230 i respect your opinion but im still not putting steph over kobe im sorry bro

@@kbjr9423 lol I don’t care everyone’s entitled to a opinion I think Steph better than kobe but everyone has a opinion.

@@marcuscarpenter7230 🤦🏾‍♂️

@@marcuscarpenter7230 how can you put him over Kobe tho he doesn’t plays better defense or is a better scorer doesn’t have more championships or nun the only thing he does better is shoot

Lebron defended Duncan and Parker in the series that the Heat won vs the Spurs. He defended Howard, Hibbert, Noah, Duncan and other centers in his era. Not saying he played those people for whole games but I vividly remember him actually in the post defending Duncan, Noah and Hibbert in playoff games.

Go look up jazz lakers last game then talk to me

@@nsmith3128 switching on to those players for a few possessions is not really that beneficial. If you wouldn't match him up with a 4 or 5 all game, why do they bring it up as an advantage for LeBron? I'd rather have MJ locking up his normal position and playing help defense for steals and blocks against the bigs. Who hasn't seen the clips of him flying by to block post moves from true centers, or steal the ball from a back to the basket player.

@@carlingram8316 Exactly, it's mostly help defense.

@@nsmith3128 I specifically remember the 2009 ECF, he was not the primary defender on Dwight, it was mostly help defense. The few times he got caught in the post with Dwight, he got punished. I will have to see the clips of the Spurs finals again. But remember they couldn't do anything about Nowitzski either. These are games that mattered. People who genuinely guard all positions on nightly basis are the likes of Draymond.

Kobe is not above top 7-8 all time you delusional. You would probably take wilt out the top 10

Stop Rebecca kobe was the watered down version of mj and he's not tied for 2nd with lebron. Kobe was an all time great. His first 3 rings he was the 2nd best player. Let's stop disrespecting his teammates everyone knew the Lakers had the best frontcourt in the NBA with pau lamar and bynum. Not to mention ron artest

you right kobe second to mj these fools thinks bron and bird is more skilled than kobe. bunch of idiots on youtube.

@@oddball9743 nah you do delusional. There’s not more than 5 players in history touching Kobe.

@@oddball9743 You clearly don't know wtf you're talking about.

Facts Kobe all day

facts ppl never. bring that up and they carried him for some years "Scoring wise"

Magic never won a championship without Kareem

Kareem was averaging 16 his last nba finals, stop it.

And he went 5-5. If Jordan going 6-0 matters why doesn't 5-5

@@malikroach5306 Magic went 5 -4

MJ is more skilled then Kobe. I love Kobe he's my second favorite player of all time but Kobe forced his game thts why he was so insufficient . Just watching you wouldn't be able to tell. But ole boy is right . If you look at Kobe numbers across the board and compare them to the top 20 players he'll probably be at the bottom of the list. As much as i love Kobe as a basketball player his numbers doesn't say he's a great player. It just shows he's a above average player and without the accolades he'll probably be at the bottom of tht top 75 players. Or somewhere around tht 40-50 mark. R.I.P Kobe.

These dudes want to count shooting percentage, but then downgrade rings. Ridiculous!

You could argue the eastern conference back in the 1980’s was tougher than the west in the 2000’s.

@@mayjaaudio6539 even if I agree with you. Just remember bro JORDAN was VERY VERY LUCKY he played for the BULLS when JERRY KRAUSE was the GM. He assembled 2 dynastic team for JORDAN N THE BULLS. He also made the move for PHIL JACKSON even though Collins made a deep run in the playoffs the year before. Additionally Scottie PIPPEN was always at Jordans side all those championship run. Thats like the LAKERS having Jerry West for the whole KOBEs prime years. We would be talking differently. In fact if CP3 did not get vetoed for that trade the LAKERS could be looking at multiple championship run and Kobe having at the very least 7-8 rings.

@@nordicblood8470 all of that is valid but “what if’s” aren’t reality unfortunately so we’ll never know but Kobe is 7 or 8 on my list

Curry now; definitely not a better all around player than Bird. Not even close imo, but curry is definitely the all time best shooter the nba has seen

@@huh3719 But he isn’t as good in the big moments. I’d consider saving a life a huge moment, and Steph tends to come up small…

@@Samurai31631 okay, but neither is bird. Bird was good with coming in clutch in regular games, but he wasn’t nearly as good in playoffs. Especially when comparing the two in shooting Steph has the highest 3pt% in playoffs all time. Even if we go free throw percentage given the different times in the nba, Steph leads in that too

Bleacher report top 50 best NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3pt%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron PER: LeBron WS/48: LeBron VORP: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) LeBron a better player then Kobe Field goal% LeBron 50.5%✔️ Kobe 44.7% Points scored career LeBron 37,062✔️ Kobe 33,643 Most missed shots in NBA history 1. Kobe Bryant 14,481 2. John Havlicek 13,417 3. Elvin Hayes 13,296 LeBron more points then Kobe Kobe more missed shots then LeBron Total 3pointers made LeBron 2,140✔️ Kobe 1,827 Total Steals career LeBron 2,136✔️ Kobe 1,944 Total Blocks career LeBron 1,041✔️ Kobe 640 Defensive win shares LeBron 75.62✔️ Kobe 50.66 Assists Leader LeBron 1✔️ Kobe 0 Career highs Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record Career highs LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record Playoffs game winning buzzer beaters LeBron 5✔️ Kobe 1 2010 NBA finals Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points 2013 NBA finals Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points Pippen 6 rings > Kobe 5 rings so having more team awards rings dont mean better player Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and carried Kobe Bryant to 3 sidekick rings 2011 NBA playoffs Mavericks 4 Lakers 0 Kobe got swept with home court advantage and favored to win series LeBron 16-6 winning record owns Kobe in 22 career meetings Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in NBA history isnt even top 10 player all time Bleacher report has Kobe #14

No disrespect, but it happened when Kobe passed away.

@@kareemadham253 inaccurate, Hakeem is not a top 10

@@jrnew1970 Agree to disagree my G...Shaq and Kobe went to Hakeem for training on how to play offense in the paint..They thought he was Top 10

@@jrnew1970 Hakeem is in the range of top 10 -13 greatest ever. Hakeem stats were better than Shaqs in 1. Rebounding 2. Blocks 3. Steals 4. Assists The only thing Shaq was better than Hakeem in was points per game and Shaq was stronger. Most of Shaq's points came from dunks. Hakeem moved like a guard, and was more agile with a combination of power and Finess. Hakeem was a better mid range shooter, a better free-throw shooter, and had a wide variety of Offensive moves...cross overs, spin moves, Head fakes, up and unders,was faster, had arguably the best footwork ever of a center, and The Dream Shake. Hakeem led the league in steals as a center for a couple of years and is ranked 9th overall in league history in Steals. Hakeem held the Record for most Blocks ever. The combination of his Block record and top 10 all time in steals places him as arguably the Greatest Defender ever. Hakeem is usually called one of the most complete players ever because he was dominate at Offense and Defense and had hardly no holes in his game. And Hakeem was the greatest center for over a decade...from the late 80s to most of the 90s before the torch was passed to Shaq. So yeah, he is around the top ten or right after. People don't put him directly in the top 10 sometimes or even higher than top 10 simply because he won only 2 rings. Guarantee, if he had 1 more ring somebody would get booted out of the top 10.

Kobe is the goat 🐐 he's #1 all time

Kobe is undeniably top 10. His individual awards, stats, and team accomplishments guarantee that much.

@@atlien1988 no doubt he’s top 10 but ever since he died people act like it’s disrespectful to not say he’s top 5

@@ARealPerson21 a lot of people been saying he's top 5 even before he died. tf you mean?

@@tedestebar3099 I’m not saying no one had him top 5 I’m saying people now act like if you say he isn’t top 5 it’s disrespectful

The real 👑👑

Wilt Chamberlain played against dudes who was unathletic and like 6'6-6'7!

Level of competition has everything to do with it my guy. Just look at boxing, greats are determined by the level of opposition they faced win lose or draw.

@@3cocopuffs566 maybe Wilt made those guys look un athletic.

Kobe ruled a decade and played in the hardest era. I don’t hear kids saying wilttttt when they shoot a paper ball. Kobe will forever be top 5 and he’s a better player than Lebron.

Y’all acting like Wilt didn’t play against Bill and Kareem lol. Matter fact who did Kobe play against that was on the 75 list? Like who was guarding him and you can’t say Iverson bec he was to short. Plus majority of Kobe career he haven’t even the number one person on the team. That was Shaq

Kobe was a great defender. One of a few, if any, that could contain Iverson

And over magic and Tim Duncan

You'd lose then. Hilariously

Not over wilt but over Larry all day no question.

I'm not taking Kobe over Bird. Mamba mentality is not in Birds league. Bird the most dog player EVER only compared to Jordan in that regard. Plus he was a better leader, way better passer, rebounder, etc.

Kobe Over Wilt ! No Sir.. Fact # 1. Wilt "revolutionized the rules" of professional basketball due to "his sheer dominance". Fact # 2. Wilt was a more efficient and effective Offensive Player than Kobe. Fact # 3. Kobe is NOT on the Top 250 players for FG% in the history of the NBA. Wilt is hovering @ 37. Fact # 4. Kobe is # 1 for Most FG's missed in NBA history. Fact # 5. Wilt is top 5 in scoring playing nearly 300 less games than Kobe.. Not too far behind @7 Mamba, but behind nonetheless.. Now with the facts out the way, I Will take Wilt's NBA career average of 30 pts & 22 rbs a game over Mr. Bryant.

At his peak LeBron could guard 1-4 tremendously well, finished 2nd in DPOY twice between 09-12

probably because the game is played at a faster pace and with more athleticism ever

@@coleworld2429 I guarantee you bring down them salaries and guaranteed contracts they'd figure it out.

@@coleworld2429 The pace was faster in the 80s and at its fastest in the 70s

The problem is they making to much money these days and the contracts are guaranteed whether you hurt or not so they don’t care. It’s not about winning these days it’s about branding yourself and making money.

85%? Completely made up number

Goat 🐐 Jordan > Copycat Kobe Finals Mvps Jordan 6✔️ (most all time) Kobe 2 Rings Jordan 6✔️ Kobe 5 League Mvps Jordan 5✔️ Kobe 1 Total Mvps (league and finals) Jordan 11✔️ (most all time) Kobe 3 Scoring titles Jordan 10✔️ (most all time) Kobe 2 Steals leader Jordan 3✔️ (1988, 1990, 1993) Kobe 0 All defensive first team selections Jordan 9 in 15 years 60% ✔️ Kobe 9 in 20 years 45% Defensive player of year Jordan 1✔️ (1988) Kobe 0 Career Steals Jordan 2,514✔️ Kobe 1,944 Career blocks Jordan 893✔️ Kobe 640 Seasons played Kobe 20 Jordan 15 Points per game (regular season) Jordan 30.12 ✔️ (1st all time) Kobe 24.99 Player efficiency rating Jordan 1st all time ✔️ Kobe 24th all time Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg career Seasons average +30 ppg Jordan 8✔️ Kobe 3 Seasons average +30 ppg on 50% fg Jordan 5✔️ Kobe 0 3point% (NBA finals) Jordan 36.8%✔️ Kobe 31.4% Playoff game winning buzzer beaters Jordan 3✔️ Kobe 1 Game trying or go ahead shots in 4th quarter last 24 seconds to take lead or tie Jordan 9-18 fg for 50%✔️ Kobe 7-28 fg for 25% Jordan way better player then Kobe Bleacher report NBA top 50 best players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant 1991 NBA finals Bulls 4 Lakers 1 First ring Jordan 31.2 pts and 55.8% fg and 50% 3pt and 6.6 rebs and 11.4 ast and finals mvp 2000 NBA finals Lakers 4 Pacers 2 First ring Kobe 15.6 ppg, 36.7% fg, 20% 3pt Carried by Shaq 38.0 pts, 61.1% fg, 16 rebs Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps and best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant 2nd option Jordan 6 times best player on his teams titles more then Kobe 2 times 2004 NBA finals Pistons 4 Lakers 1 Kobe 22 pts and 38% fg and 17% 3pt and locked down by Tyshaun Prince 2004 NBA finals Shaq O'Neal 26 pts and 63% fg and 10 rebs vs Detroit Pistons

I don’t think it is disrespect man…I watched them 3 peat and if you weren’t there for hack-a-Shaq then you ain’t a lakers fan…shaq was great and Kobe was okay but Kobe became great and took a team to win but I will never put Kobe above shaq. Shaq even left and got himself a chip the next year. Kobe is where he is 9 to 11

Kobe my goat idc what nobody say

Nope. Kobe is lucky to be in the top 10. He is more like top 15.

@@ivenshufford5797 😂. Ok. Right.

Most disrespected? EVERYONE loved Kobe. However these hardcore Kobe fans have an emotional attachment to Kobe that makes his fans think he was a top 3 player. I do agree that Kobe should be higher than Bird so Kobe should be around 7, him being 10 is not outrageous. ESPN, the athletic, sporting news etc. who had people who covered basketball all their lives all agree that Kobe is in that 10 area. It’s not disrespect it’s fact.

Bs kobe was a good defender not great ,footwork lol what kinda bs is that footwork 🤣🤣🤣.Also he was not a efficient player at all for his greatness.Also he was carried by Shaq and ran shaq out of there.Shaq is greater than kobe ,kobe ain't better than hakeem,Bird,isiah Thomas,doctor j,moses malone.Kobe is a top 15 player I would put him number 14.

@@realabbzzy8856 just admit you’re not a Kobe fan bro. I’m sure you’re team Lebron so stop it.

@@realabbzzy8856 then you don’t know basketball

@@Kashflow81 he's...right except Kobe was better then all those that he named EXCEPT maybe Hakeem or Dr J......and I watched Kobe and Lebron and like em both dont think becuz somebody doesn't like 1 guy that mean their on some other guys imaginary team fan club lol.....(Lebron is/was better by the way)

@@realabbzzy8856 kobe had 12 all defensive teams lol how is that just good and not great? You definitely don't know ball

How do you have the team stacker and biggest crybaby in history in that list of greats?

kobe over duncan is ridiculous

What did Duncan do that Kobe didn’t. Kobe beat him in 08 last time they played

@@faisal4523 Duncan not only beat Kobe but he beat KOBE and SHAQ 🤣🤣🤣

@@smokeabaguhthat5443 because he's ahead in almost every statistic

lol, he's not better than LeBron. Not because he has Jordan mindset and skills means he is better. He's a poor man MJ(Still the closest thing to MJ)

I agree! How can LeBob the Builder James even be top 2 when he needs MULTIPLE HOFs to do so and only won 4! In addition he can’t shoot FreeThrows nor can he playing ball Defense! How!!??

Atlantic top 75 greatest NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 4. Bill Russell 5. Magic Johnson 6. Wilt Chamberlain 7. Larry Bird 8. Shaquille O'Neal 9. Tim Duncan 10. Kobe Bryant PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3pt%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron PER: LeBron WS/48: LeBron VORP: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) LeBron a better player then Kobe Field goal% LeBron 50.5%✔️ Kobe 44.7% Points scored career LeBron 36,559✔️ Kobe 33,643 Most missed shots in NBA history 1. Kobe Bryant 14,481 2. John Havlicek 13,417 3. Elvin Hayes 13,296 LeBron more points then Kobe Kobe more missed shots then LeBron Total 3pointers made LeBron 2093✔️ Kobe 1827 Total Steals career LeBron 2,128✔️ Kobe 1,944 Total Blocks career LeBron 1,022✔️ Kobe 640 Defensive win shares LeBron 75.62✔️ Kobe 50.66 Assists Leader LeBron 1✔️ Kobe 0 Career highs Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record Career highs LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record Playoffs game winning buzzer beaters LeBron 5✔️ Kobe 1 2010 NBA finals Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points 2013 NBA finals Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points Pippen 6 rings > Kobe 5 rings so having more team awards rings dont mean better player Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and carried Kobe Bryant to 3 sidekick rings 2000 NBA final Lakers 4 Pacers 2 Kobe 15.6 ppg and 36.7% fg and 20% 3pt carried by Shaq 38.0 ppg and 61.1% fg and 16 rebs and finals mvp Mavericks 4-0 swept Kobe in 2011 NBA playoffs LeBron 16-6 winning record owns Kobe in 22 career meetings Jordan > LeBron > Shaq > Kobe Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in NBA history isnt even top 10 player all time

@@kristineellis3444 Atlantic top 75 greatest NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 4. Bill Russell 5. Magic Johnson 6. Wilt Chamberlain 7. Larry Bird 8. Shaquille O'Neal 9. Tim Duncan 10. Kobe Bryant PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3pt%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron PER: LeBron WS/48: LeBron VORP: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) LeBron a better player then Kobe Field goal% LeBron 50.5%✔️ Kobe 44.7% Points scored career LeBron 36,559✔️ Kobe 33,643 Most missed shots in NBA history 1. Kobe Bryant 14,481 2. John Havlicek 13,417 3. Elvin Hayes 13,296 LeBron more points then Kobe Kobe more missed shots then LeBron Total 3pointers made LeBron 2093✔️ Kobe 1827 Total Steals career LeBron 2,128✔️ Kobe 1,944 Total Blocks career LeBron 1,022✔️ Kobe 640 Defensive win shares LeBron 75.62✔️ Kobe 50.66 Assists Leader LeBron 1✔️ Kobe 0 Career highs Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record Career highs LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record Playoffs game winning buzzer beaters LeBron 5✔️ Kobe 1 2010 NBA finals Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points 2013 NBA finals Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points Pippen 6 rings > Kobe 5 rings so having more team awards rings dont mean better player Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and carried Kobe Bryant to 3 sidekick rings 2000 NBA final Lakers 4 Pacers 2 Kobe 15.6 ppg and 36.7% fg and 20% 3pt carried by Shaq 38.0 ppg and 61.1% fg and 16 rebs and finals mvp Mavericks 4-0 swept Kobe in 2011 NBA playoffs LeBron 16-6 winning record owns Kobe in 22 career meetings Jordan > LeBron > Shaq > Kobe Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in NBA history isnt even top 10 player all time

Facts 100

Impossible for Kobe to be top five over Bron MJ Kareem magic Wilt

Kobe can go 5-7, but I have him 7. There’s like 11,000 players that played in the NBA. We basically splitting hairs comparing 10 players.

How

No way

@@sub-zero7243 but I'd magic himself puts Kobe over him then why can't we? Kobe has a argument over magic. But I agree with the others.

Great player played most of his career with 2/3 hall of famers. To be honest his last 10 yrs was role player ish. Never won back to back and had the most consistent coaching staff and players around him. Duncan is a great but I wouldn’t say his underrated.

@@dice1997 Disagree, Tim last 10 years he was still a 17pt 10 rebs 1.7blk guy. Tim has never been known to be a high 20’s scorer. His teammates like Manu or Tony are not even top 25 all time in their positions and Lenard was couple years in league at the time. Robinson was at the end of his career and not the same player anymore. In this regard Tim is being underrated

No 3 peat and no back to back titles.. Plus Kobe teams dominated Tim Spurs.. Kobe has more achievements, accomplishments n Accolades than Timmy also.. Both played in the same era n conference..

@@shuggriffin6863 But in the end both had 5 Championship. Timmy had 3FMVP to Kobe 2FMVP. Kobe went in a 3 peat with Shaq, and 2 peat with Paul/Bynum/Lamar oden. Timmy didn’t have a shaq caliber player but yet never missed the playoffs.

@@shuggriffin6863 Land of Basketball website it shows them against each other in head to head and Tim has beaten Kobe 43(31 reg. And 12 playoffs) times and Kobe beating Tim 39(21 reg season and 18 playoffs) times. So to say Kobe dominated Tim Duncan is not true at all.

Yes. Magic has called Kobe the greatest Laker ever! Before Kobe passed. Does his opinion count?

I wanna say no but it's possible Kobe should be over magic but Idk. What magic was able to do on the biggest stages and deliver is almost second to none. Kobe my man 100k grand too.

@@wallwildlife send acho a DM and ask him to amend his list

My thoughts exactly. At least by the logic Acho used in his argument. If Kobe is above Bird, he's above Magic too.

Yes kobe is jyst as great if not greater kibe could scoer way better than magic

Mamba Mentality was the mj Mentality kobe just branded

kobe is top 5 fym

Not top 5? How old are you? Or do you have amnesia?

@@2020Viszion What makes Kobe Top 5 over Bron, Jordan, Kareem, Wilt and Magic?

Herbert Daniel You're right he's not Top 5, he's Top 3!🤷‍♂️

Most spot on analysis of his defence, and great comparison with Jeter. Pre 2004 sure Kobe was a great on ball defender, but dudes really act like Kobe was elite on defence most his career. He was making All-Defensive teams when he was tasked with guarding Rondo in a finals rather than Pierce or Allen

Go on RU-vid type in “Wilt Chamberlain highlights in color”

They are talking about wilt the basketball player dont care for the rest of that, just what he did on the court

@@Rodxdraco On the court?! 100 points 50pts 25 boards in a season 30pts 22 boards avg career Top in triple double categories Led league in assists one year 55 rebounds over Russel Record 4 time MVP Rookie of the year and MVP in same year He holds 72 records so you can look up the rest and those 72 records that still stand today. He post faded and had a jump shot just wasn’t bully ball look up in color highlights it’s a ton of lost faces from mid range

@@Phillz3 the reason wilt doesn't shine as bright as his records suggest in all honesty is cuz of Russel imo

Time out, he didn't dominate Kareem but once and then Kareem proceeded to give wilt 30 every time he saw him

No

Lmao

Didn't even make the playoffs in the east bro

@@damienaiden4302 he got hurt he was a top 5 mvp candidate before he got hurt

@@damienaiden4302 Lebron was excused a couple years ago for missing playoffs for missing games and being “injured” after he claimed he’d be going into playoff mode before the actual playoffs his first year for lakers. Jordan didn’t make it at 40, after they were going to make playoffs but he got injured and wasn’t the same.

@@johnhancock1362 bruhh... If MJ wasn't old they would have been a playoff team... But he was old.. which means he was good for being 40