Should You Buy a 2018- Facelift RANGE ROVER L405? (5.0 P525)

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@bricktop. Год назад

No. No. I absolutely should not. It's a ridiculous purchase, I'd never recover financially. But do i want one? Oh god yes.

@tarkilldudegaming2296 Год назад

You'd recover financially if you had much more money than the cost of the car, or if you never went on holiday lol

@bricktop. Год назад

@@tarkilldudegaming2296 or ate no food, lived in a tent and consumed only what I was capable of cultivating in my own armpit hair.

@AzanAli- Год назад

@@bricktop. Cultivating in the armpit?? 🤣 You can grow potatoes in there

@ashleybussey7425 Год назад

Hi Matt! Love the Range Rover comment! Why does everyone not have one? Please get a p38 on the channel!

@ashleybussey7425 Год назад

Hi Matt! Love the Range Rover content! Why does everyone not have one? Please get a p38 on the channel!

@simono4991 Год назад

Your "how to justify buying a Range Rover" videos always make me smile.

@HighPeakAutos Год назад

I’ve got to do it otherwise I have that nagging doubt in my mind I’m going to end up bankrupt

@rjmouland Год назад

@@HighPeakAutos you should run a competition to see how many range rovers you've reviewed on this channel, it might stimulate views on other reviews whilst viewers are trying to count the range rover ones :)

@RRPapi22 Год назад

@@HighPeakAutosthe literal comparison of the 5 star hotel not offering towels did it for me if i am going to make payments i want to have it ALL or at least what the original owner decided and hope was ALL the Options lol

@therealmarkiemark Год назад

Matt, while I’m also a self confessed LR addict, I had two L405’s from new, back to back and they were dogs. The P525 was incredible but broke down twice in 36 hours, lesson learned.

@chrisreynolds6152 11 месяцев назад

What issues did you have? Reliability is my big concern. I've heard they aren't as bad as they used to be. Now that they are using the n63 motor from BMW, I might opt for that.

@Kelveron Год назад

'The Range Rover is the best car in the world. It just is.' Can't beat a thoroughly well thought out and comprehensively constructed opinion! 😄

@Incountry Год назад

Obviously you don’t know JLR then…

@v12-s65 Год назад

best suv at least

@Incountry Год назад

@@v12-s65 No it’s not…. What is the Definition of best…???

@TheFlyingClutchman Год назад

@@Incountry he clearly said best all rounder multiple times. Can't really disagree with that

@Incountry Год назад

@@TheFlyingClutchman Opinion isn’t fact, like a feeling is just of personal nostalgia but isn’t fact…. As a brother of a sibling who owns and operates two JLR franchises not because of the “Best 4x4xfar” played for the public but the income it suggests (even though the warranty work is crazy) is very lucrative for the family member… JLR vehicles are poorly constructed, parts are not substantial, quality just isn’t there even though the engines used in Europe are not the same as used in the US (variants) electronics still fail engines with or with a SC continue to fail, the diesels have issues, they’ve even had UK JLR factory technicians fly over for few weeks at a time trying to figure out the issues. So try not to soak your panties when thinking of “the RANGE ROVER….”

@noahcawkwell216 4 месяца назад

Just bought one and quite literally the most comfortable vehicle I’ve ever driven. All my friends have negative opinions about the Range Rover, I think it’s amazing and I already want another one!

@darylp5861 Год назад

“Should you buy blonde hair dye”. That’s the vid I’m waiting for haha

@robpollard7135 Год назад

Mate of mine just payed £106000 for his. Just taken it in for the 1000 mile run in service check and when he asked if everything was OK they said " yes just a little oil leak on gearbox but nothing to worry about yet". I was daft enough to have 2 and both threw out so much transmission fluid I had to have my drive re- block paved. My wife and I used to try and guess the stance of ours in the morning as the air suspension would constantly play up and leave the rear or the front on the ground. When they work they are great but you know when it's getting bad when your on fist name terms with the recovery drivers.

@shanginadildo Год назад

Could you get land rover to pay for the damage done to your driveway?

@henryviiifake8244 Год назад

An oil leak after just 1000 miles for a >£100k vehicle (presumably from new at that price)? To call that worrying is like calling a broken leg "inconvenient". 😬

@MASO204 Год назад

why would you accept that?

@resnonverba137 Год назад

Paid...

@stephenbailey9656 Год назад

Great to see another RR video from you Matt. Your enthusiasm is addictive and your confidence in the brand is heartily encouraging. Your previous one is serving me well.

@HighPeakAutos Год назад

Pleased to hear it. Cheers

@ttall3334 Год назад

I must say…. I absolutely love your videos. Every day I check in to see if there is a new video. It doesn’t matter which car you are reviewing, I just enjoy them all. In particular I like your videos on old cars because, lets face it, thats what most of us can afford. Please keep up the great work 🙏🏼

@smileoftenatsea Год назад

I hope you get to review the new xc90 t8 soon. From what I can tell, we share a similar appreciation for certain cars and the aforementioned Volvo has been my biggest ownership surprise in recent years. Just a terrific all rounder. That said, I still miss the sense of accomplishment you get behind the wheel of the Range Rover.

@HighPeakAutos Год назад

I’d like to drive one of those

@smileoftenatsea Год назад

@@HighPeakAutos Happy to offer mine, if your travels take you to Vancouver, BC 😎

@bukshyrecording2448 Год назад

T8 wtf? That must be a tank engine

@lincolnengland5005 Год назад

Lovely car....sometimes you have to follow your heart not your head.....or we'd all be driving a Toyota Yaris!

@HighPeakAutos Год назад

That’s right. Nothing wrong with the Prius or the Yaris

@mickthompson584 Год назад

As an auto el;ectrician i see loads of these motors and they are an absolute nightmare, great when everything is working but a money pit when they go wrong.

@johnmalin1676 Год назад

They only go wrong because people don't get them serviced correctly. The Majority of the issues regarding the RR, is the air suspension. But, its a luxury that sets the RR aside from the competition, so, if you bare this in mind when purchasing, and set money aside for when you do have issues, you can get it sorted. Plus remember, you can usually still drive the RR when there are Air Suspension issues.

@jonathangiles4854 Год назад

You’ve worked hard for it, so it’s deserved. Quality car!

@davetaylor5501 Год назад

Another brilliant video with a bit of humour. I love the fact it's quiet and unassuming whilst still being hot hatch fast i would never get tired of that. If you're ever stuck for space Matt I'd happily look after it for you 😉

@TheBigd1975 Год назад

On holidays in Riga from Ireland. Still ain't gonna miss the latest video 😂

@hassana22 Год назад

Lucky b*****t

@TallisLizzy 9 месяцев назад

Boy does this look a million times better than the new generation.

@badwolf4058 Год назад

You're right on two fronts here: (i) time is the most precious commodity and (ii) although I hanker after a Range Rover, there's no justification for spending £60-80k on one ...

@stephensenior7006 Год назад

I totally agree with your review. I have just swapped my 2018 P525 Autobiography for a newer low mileage 2020 SV Autobiography P565. This has every option imaginable and is almost too powerful and harder riding than the P525. I can safely say that the P525 is the best and most satisfying car I have ever owned. It was a beautiful Dark Metallic Racing Green with a Tan Leather interior and always felt really special. I have gone for the the 2020 SV while I wait for my series 5 to arrive. Pity about the change of engine from the 5L V8 supercharged to a 4.4L BMW V8 Twin Turbo in the new model. I have really like the 5L V8 , the economy is quite respectable. I think the P525 2018 model is an extremely hard act to beat!

@supercarplates4739 Год назад

As always absolutely brilliant! And the one liners, puns, dry wit and delivery are fantastic! Towards the end of this review, I would actually call it life affirming and reassuring. We genuinely appreciate and love you Matt! The Best at what you do. No one gets close…

@digitalimager4946 Год назад

Harry Metcalfe?

@carspot_2 Год назад

Simply, You are an excellent Ultimate Driving Machine Specialist. Best commentary masterpiece.

@benw7601 Год назад

Good job on the camera work on this video! Its a good step up from before :D

@wileyfilms Год назад

I love your Range Rover videos! I have a 2017 here in America and I chose the td6 because of you! And I absolutely love it! SVO Windward grey color and all the options you could get in the US. I actually prefer it over the facelift models because I get actual buttons for climate and seats but with the new tech! Thanks again for steering me in the right direction!!!

@wileyfilms Год назад

I do love your spec and color! Ive always wanted a white one! But I think the 17 l405 is the best they have ever made!

@HighPeakAutos Год назад

Good choice! You're right about the physical buttons for the climate. 2017 was the last year that was available.

@brownfamily67 Год назад

Just worked out I first drove a Range Rover 42 years ago! I have owned them for 35 years. They are the best. You have to put up with occasional sarcastic reliability comments mainly from those who have never owned one and who keep surprisingly quiet when their BMW is in for repair. The Range Rover versatility and driving experience makes it worthwhile though. Nobody does it better - as Carly sang.

@kiwirangerover6052 Год назад

Great to see a great Range Rover video! These are what got me hooked to your channel

@MrSunnyBhoy Год назад

You are a Land Rover connoisseur Matt. Never used to like these but watching your vids has changed my mind. If I had the money, I prob would get one and put up with the inevitable host of issues that will come up at some point. I guess when you sit up so high and comfortable, it's hard to them switch to anything else.

@stephenlane9168 Год назад

Nice Matt. Worthy video for a mid week binge. Worlds best car. Classy and elegant design and the L405 is the most luxurious Rangey. Love yours in white. Perfection. I’m a huge JLR fan and owner with similar videos as yourself. 👍☺️ once you’ve owned one, you know 👌

@michaelstaunton1632 Год назад

Really enjoying the content of the video, especially the recent Toyota Avenue one . Keep up the good work 👌👌

@toms_garage Год назад

Great video (as always) love the wood inserts

@henrikheiestad7355 Год назад

Love the video, wonderful review - super happy with my AB 2019 hybrid.

@williamfence566 Год назад

As a car fan I can appreciate many vehicles I'd have no need or desire to own . Just can't get the range rover unless you need the 4x4 as a necessity . Each to their own.

@shehryar1091 Год назад

Had been waiting a while for this one! Please cover the Long wheel base version as well and let us know the differences in dynamics and comfort if any! Thanks

@adnaankhan5132 Год назад

Matt, thanks for the review, currently driving a 2005 Range Rover HSE (L322) and was looking for a replacement. Your review has convinced me that the extra expense in buying an L405 is a better choice overall. Thank you.

@jamiemurray1770 Год назад

Honestly despite their commonality, i must say a green, l405, 4.4 sdv8 autobiography is my dream car! Just got to get a well payed job and save enough money to drop 80grand on it 🤣

@johngunning2123 Год назад

@ Jamie Murray. I hope that a well-paid job doesn't require you to be able to spell correctly.🤣

@rodneyemmerich8828 Год назад

Precisely why Land Cruisers are so popular and why Toyota cannot keep up with demand

@bukshyrecording2448 Год назад

Hey Jamie, There are software engineering apprenticeships which pay you a salary to become a software engineer. 4-5 years in, you can make 6 figures. If you dont fancy tech, there are apprenticeships for almost every industry, once again, you re getting paid to learn during it. There s your solution for your car. Thanks for coming to my HPA talk

@coyley72 Год назад

Don't do it. Though they are beautiful they are unreliable dickheads. Well, at least mine is

@ianyoud1 Год назад

Hi Matt great video looking forward to seeing your new car in detail it’s stunning there’s just something about a Range Rover especially a white one beautiful cars that if looked after will do everything you could ever want my white L322 has been amazing even though I would love a L405 I’d find it hard to get rid of if because she been the best car I’ve ever owned hope you are well best wishes ian

@maceyrob Год назад

Thanks Matt. I had my finger on the trigger of a BR Green P525 L405 with tan interior about four months back to replace my Discovery 4 and my head won out based on the engine…. Now you’ve done the man maths for me and I’m regretting that decision. Bugger. Best get back on approved used.

@sicebim1 Год назад

Great review as always.

@crawfordg Год назад

Quite simply what a motor. I can easily see why they are the best. Great video as always Mike. Regards Crawford

@AndyK.1 Год назад

The queens personal cars (xj8) use to be able to control either rear windows from either side. Looks like they made it standard which is excellent

@54mgtf22 Год назад

Love your work 👍

@Peter-MH Год назад

Love it! I think there's a good reason why people who have massive car collections always have a Range Rover in it, and the Range Rover is always the car they use the most!

@frasermacleod7642 Год назад

Absolutely fantastic video, really do love Range Rovers and this is a total stunner. I agree, if your going to get something so luxurious and refined you may as well get it with a big V8 😊👌🏻👍🏻

@Valisk Год назад

Ahh, the familiar comfortable warmth of Matt enthusing over a Rangie. Can't wait for the review of the latest RR, whenever that is...

@Nigelk388 Год назад

Great review Matt production of videos are becoming very professional looking

@HighPeakAutos Год назад

Thanks!

@greghall6950 Год назад

What a brilliant analysis and range rover.

@Jean-Mi_Paradis Год назад

Matt, great video here, and I go agree 100% with you. Cheers!

@MotorTorq_ZA Год назад

I agree Matt. The Range Rover is the best car in the world. It’s not my number one favourite car. But it does everything well. And you’ve got to tip your hat to the Range Rover for doing so

@Big-Cjl-Chris Год назад

I always liked the look of the RR after considering a Cayenne too I just took delivery of a X5 45e as reliability is paramount to me the RR scares me that way.

@thenothinghero8011 Год назад

It's all well and good until something breaks

@dogmadx Год назад

Just bought 2012 L320 tdv6 range rover sport its a fantastic car with help from your reviews so thankyou

@iqihoque6053 Год назад

A truly beautiful car Matt! Done well for yourself, enjoy 🙌🏽

@HighPeakAutos Год назад

Thanks

@thefella71 Год назад

Matt I recently watched Matt Armstrong re build and upgrade his 2015 Range Rover... put all the bits on to make it 2018 esk I thought yessss... now you have wiped all that joy out ... feels like a high stake card game and you said the words" i raise ya and I'll see ya" full house matt well done keep up the content.

@HighPeakAutos Год назад

Each to their own but I don’t see the point of that. Aftermarket infotainment stuff is never as good.

@reinmansmith Год назад

“High Peak Range Rover” love it 😆👍

@carlwoodcock9249 Год назад

Great vid thankyou 🇬🇧👍

@alanplummer9702 2 месяца назад

Hi There, I have been watching your you tube clips for many months and in October I bought my first 2018 face lift Vouge SE, I have been a Mercedes customer for in excess of 20 years ( S Class ). I wanted to add to your comments that I believe that Mercedes have a better build quality, BUT, my RR Vouge 3.0 diesel V6, is by a country mile so much better to own and drive. I fitted a Ghost 2 immobiliser, and also got the JLR (free) security upgrade fitted. I fitted the side steps to get in and out of the car ( they are fantastic if you are not 6 feet tall ), and the icing on cake, I get 28 mpg around town driving and around 36 - 38 on motorway driving at 70 mph. I just had a FULL service ( not an interim service ) including new wipers and add blue ( £500 inc vat ) Thank you for pointing me to the Range Rover.

@kevinleighuk Год назад

Great review! Down to earth, sensible and practical. I've a 2013 (2014 model) 4.4 V8 Diesel Autobiography which has low mileage (60K), all the options, nice colour combo (black outside sitting on 23" Urban wheels and linen interior with grained wood inc the wheel inside) and well looked after. I've tweaked it a little too. It's probably worth what I paid for it almost 3 years. Like you say, the new 2022 models are ridiculously expensive especially with the premiums being asked. They are quite an improvement over the L405, especially one as old as mine. But, the 2018 facelift looks a lot more car for the money. I like the Apple CarPlay addition since I only have a bluetooth link and have to use the iPhone screen. The all-round cameras inc the rear ones on mine are definitely poor quality now (especially at night). I wrestle with whether spending (probably) the value of my car again on top of its current value is worth the extra goodies....? I still have a fabulous luxurious smart looking car, huge range with its diesel engine and plenty of power. First world decisions!! LOL

@JayBrainstorm123 Год назад

Just thinking about selling my L322 V8 petrol and this video is making me reconsider. It's the best car I have ever owned and does everything so well. Gonna be a while before I can afford a L405...

@Edogawa1117 Год назад

Great review.

@AndyK.1 Год назад

This is a new Matt. Being critical of RR and converted away from the diesel v8 to a proper engine.

@charlesmorgan8440 Год назад

Sadly my recent ownership experience of an approved used RRS was poor. 3 electronic faults that caused the car to cut out and a diesel leak, combined with a dealer that supplied me with a hire car without functioning aircon and for a weekend only when the car hadn't even started being worked on convinced me that for all the good things, I was going to have to pay a high price in wasted time. So I bought a 21 plate Lexus RX450h, which is more comfortable, just as capable round corners, and hopefully never to become a regular at the dealer. Je ne regrette rien!

@gaara4667 Год назад

Your first mistake was getting a diesel. Diesel cars from LR tends to be shit

@penguinbrucelee Год назад

great vid H.P.A

@filipwennergren2712 Год назад

Always good videos!!! Greetings from Sweden!

@HighPeakAutos Год назад

Thanks

@Copaceticification Год назад

I upgraded to a 2018 autobiography from an 2011 L322 tdv8 which i put 120k on with no severe issues last year but never really fell in love with the L405 & I'm seriously thinking of letting it go, It's a lovely car but there's something about the older model i do miss.

@dmc9487 Год назад

I'll never be able to afford one but that is a beauty of a car. Good video, as always. One day I may let you do a video of my 1.33 Yaris. You just know you want to.

@philgoodwin67 Год назад

Matt the production values on this vid are top gear standard. Really engaging, well edited and on the money 👍👍👍

@HighPeakAutos Год назад

Thanks! You’ve got the same name as my grandfather

@davidmoynahan9585 Год назад

Haha, guessed the answer as soon as I read the question. Mate has the long wheel base autobiography with 4.4 TDi. White with white interior . Open the door and immediately feel and see the crisp sharp lines of all the surfaces. One line leading to another of style and comfort. I was very impressed and enjoyed a drive in it. 25mpg for a land based private jet is very reasonable, making the journey to the destination more enjoyable than the destination itself.

@hamoonhedayati5710 11 месяцев назад

Fantastic review, It’s my plan in soon future 👌

@HighPeakAutos 11 месяцев назад

Good choice!

@alanhayward6719 Год назад

The hamster wheel of life, nicely put!

@kageyme8109 Год назад

This later version is such a good car . I have the 4.4 version which I love and nothing betters it Like you I also keep an SL which I have for years and if you have these 2 cars your set . Nothing else needed . The bluetooth for your phone does work but only gives minimum screen not the full colour and for the volume I only use the small knob on the bottom screen ( it was a revelation ) when I found it !!

@Tahvyy Год назад

I love these videos and you do them well, that Range Rover is beautiful 🤩. I still prefer the pre-face lift but I’m sure I’ll end up with the 18 and on at some point. You’re right once you’ve owned one nothing else will do.🌞

@johnmalin1676 Год назад

There are now plenty of pre 2018 aftermarket spares available, to upgrade these car to 2018 on spec, and not that expensive.

@whomstd Год назад

Looks really sharp. Please do Porsche Macan, would love to hear your thoughts!

@HighPeakAutos Год назад

On my to do list

@colincleary8669 Год назад

That is some motor mat the dogs conkers looks stunning beautiful in white and looks amazing keep the videos coming mat just wish I could afford one so I got to stick with me v70 2.4d 😀

@barryfenwick609 Год назад

i bought a 4.4 l405 two weeks ago thanks to you and its great i love it .but i do agree about the seats num bum.but i can live with that.very nice car but not in white.

@pcat1378 Год назад

SO good that Range Rover get TWO vehicles in the top ten most unreliable cars in the UK

@spiritzen Год назад

The reality is the way they make you feel. You truly feel special, it's time when you feel on top of the world. Where you know your hard-work has paid off and you can ride in a bit of luxury, even if nobody else sees you (but secretly hope everyone notices).

@willardr100 Год назад

I see you have the 1700 watt Signature hifi. Good choice. You don’t know you need it until you have it. Radio 4 never sounded so good! 😂

@andrewmacdonald1103 Год назад

No, I was never going to buy one. However, I enjoy your videos so I watched this! Thank you Matt.

@prasenjitdey4222 Год назад

THAT sir, was like listening to poetry whilst taking a drive with you in the beautiful landscape of your Country.👌 Many dream of it, you sir drive in it. "Cheers"🤩🙏

@HighPeakAutos Год назад

Thanks for watching

@GaryB007 Год назад

Lovely cars - as long as you don't mind sharing ownership with your local dealer. They may well have it as much as you.

@markwall6651 Год назад

Perfect car, I’ve got the Sport 525, best car I’ve ever had, thanks Matt for these superb vids!

@HighPeakAutos Год назад

Good choice

@relaxing1.2.3 Год назад

Waiting for this!

@Colinrobson1 Год назад

Thanks to your enthusiasm I've just purchased a Land Rover Approved used L405. 2017, no 2018 facelift as they were a stupid jump in price. 2017 has the updated media, digital dash and apple car play but not the climate touch screen. Good thing Id say. V6 (I know) SE with some bits added. Treat to dive with first year warranty included. Feel free to offer advice. Ie Service package, tyres (new Scorpion Winters fitted) extended warranty and more. Keep up the channel, if not for me then Used Land Rover dealers. Lol.

@Garffey Год назад

Spot-on again Matt...I've always had a soft spot for a 'Rangey' pretty much of any description, but sadly cost has always kept one off my drive....But they are just so much better than anything Bmw, Audi or anything else german come to think of it!.... A lottery win would have me straight down the dealers I tell you! Keep up the good work. 👍👍💪💪

@MrAsk4more 10 месяцев назад

This was an amazing rendition.

@andrewmarriott4033 Год назад

Nice review Martin 😂😂😂

@twintron Год назад

this is becoming my favorite youtube channel. Can you review a Jaguar XE P250 at some point.!

@MattCSLnut Год назад

That 5.0 Supercharged V8 is probably The Best engine JLR have ever made. I love it in the XF & XK and it makes a lot of sense in the RR L405. So Matt ... is that While L405 of yours finally a "Keeper" ? or are you already looking to upgrade ? ... as hard as that's going to be.

@ProfessorGearchange Год назад

Stealing your Rangie can be made much harder by turning off keyless entry. That is what I have done.

@davidbrooks187 Год назад

Agreed Matt. The Range Rover is the best car in the world. I went down the company car route a couple of years ago and sold my Range Rover. Every day I miss it, it was different class.

@pedromanafaia Год назад

Great car, well done!!!

@gary2632 Год назад

Think you need to do a “state of the collection” video showing your whole fleet 👍

@jonandrews6018 Год назад

I enjoyed this video

@martinhogg5337 Год назад

Quite right, you may as well enjoy the fruits of your labour when you work hard!

@tonypacke6954 Год назад

Nice video again Matt. Surely Land Rover should be sending out the key boxes, (with the LR logo on them) to counteract the the piss poor theft security. But no, just let the insurance company's pick up the tab for an ill thought out system. I saw a late Range Rover Velar parked down the road last week, probably worth £100000 plus, had a steering wheel lock on it. Something is not quite right is it!

@johnmalin1676 Год назад

This is not just a JLR issue. They have the same problems with Mercs, BMW, Porche. Scanners for theses cars can be brought of certain auction sites. There are plenty of youtube video's on the subject.

@ckm-mkc Год назад

I've kept all my car keys in a deep silver bowl for the last 7 years for exactly this reason. Never trusted the wireless security ever since they came out with keyless start....

@paulbeswetherick4261 Год назад

You can disable the keyless entry to reduce theft, have done so on my RRS

@martinr7371 Год назад

@@paulbeswetherick4261 same here.

@adriankingdon3055 Год назад

Not sure that a metal box emblazoned with logos is a great idea. Better to hide your keys in a pseudo baked bean tin.

@jimmcculloch3786 Год назад

Brilliant! Thanks :)

@jonathangray1507 Год назад

Great review. Very nearly went your route but got a brand new SQ7 Vorsprung for £83k. Reliability worries and theft were the swingers (on the street in London). With secure parking, would have gone RR.

@robpollard7135 Год назад

Another one to look out for is the sliding sunroofs. In hot weather the trays they sit in warp and have to be replaced . Twice in my case! When warped they let in water and when you brake you get a cold shower. I even had water in the interior light's. Another annoying part was everytime they gave me a loan car it wouldn't have a towbar which would prevent me from working.

@marylandflyer5670 Год назад

White on black in the RR is beautiful 👍

@FleetAdmiral215 Год назад

Absolutely Gorgeous Car Mat , I'd just have it in another colour than White personally Great video

@pas7272 Год назад

So good, i watched it twice

@cuneyt4313 Год назад

Lovely spec Matt! I think this model is the best of the best, as a Land Rover brand fanatic I can’t seem to like the newer models. Especially the newest Range Rover and the Discovery.