SIG RATTLER 5.56 VS Q HONEY BADGER 

Had my father try my 300LBK with OSS can, he's a old 80s Detroit beat cop. He said it felt as revolutionary as when he first used a Gen 1 glock 17 in a shootout.

Love the gun review, but that table cloth looks like it was made in an un-named eastern European village during the cold war. That's what this video should be about. Looks like it took 7 old ladies over 1000 man hours to complete. Not to mention all of the rations they probably had to trade for those fancy beads and sequins...IJS!

You can’t go wrong with either. I personally went with the Rattler. Have it suppressed and it’s freaking awesome.

If I had one gun to grab, it would be my HB. Love that thing, especially suppressed

Just buy the 300 blackout barrel conversion kit from Sig for $600 and you can change the caliber by simply removing 2 torx screws and swapping barrels. I have the 556 Rattler and have had issues with the gun on the standard setting sometimes not picking up the next round and holding the bolt back on the last round. If I run the gun on the + setting it eats everything and runs great. Have you experienced that at all?

Once you set the HB for your preferred subs it runs supers fine. Also that set screw locks the adjustment screw underneath it so it doesn’t back off like most adjustable gas blocks. Downfall of sig is they will drop the product line or make that generation obsolete with no replacement parts available. Ask me how many times I was burned by sig for being a part of their consumer research and development program.

You could have just bought the 556 barrel for the 300blk rattler. Changes the caliber in about 2 mins

If you're having so many issues with the .300, just put a can on it and leave it. The round was designed to perform best suppressed. No reason to go back and forth and you can just buy subs.

Excellent information and perspective. Truly enjoyed and beautiful pieces of machinery/engineering. 1800 fps equals 1227 mph. Thats a lot of power in a small package.

Very good comparison. I have the Rattler in 300 BLK out, love it. Waiting to suppress it.

Just say your personal preference is the Sig. I don't know why you wouldn't trust your life to the Honey Badger, it is just as effective and a quality product. I've got both brands and which ever I get my hands on first, whoa to the perpetrator!!

Your lucky to have both! I only got the Honey badger, i can tell you that even after 1000+ rounds w/o cleaning i never had to change the gas setting and i shoot both sub and super back to back. Thanks for the vid!

Its been tested a million times and you know what they found? They both will go thousands of rounds without cleaning. The dirt has to go somewhere so do you want it in a piston or bolt either way after so many rounds it will stop. As far as finding ammo as a reloader I don’t have that issue but I do agree 5.56 will be easier in a emergency time. Awesome pistols though man thank you for sharing!

Love the video! Your are correct 100% I sold badger for czbren2 and also have sig rattler! (300BO) I agree the Rattler is about as good as can get! Looking at either 5.56 barrel and gaurs or just buying another rattler in 5.56.

Great video buddy . Look forward to seeing more content of yours in the future.

Both platforms are on the pricey side but well worth your money. God Bless!

I love it, but for my first rifle, I have to go 300 blackouts and get lighter rounds when I need speed or get a 556 conversion.

I have multiple calibers in the AR. Platform but for pistol length barrels hard to beat the performance of a 300blk out. Wolf polyformance now avail for 20-30 cents a round.

Always check chamber was empty before you’re looking at the barrel. That’s safety.

I love the HB and the Rattler both.

Great informational video!

Lots of great debate over the effectiveness at 300 yards. Most of the research says that the energy sustained by good ammunition at that range would be comparable to a 45ACP or subsonic 9mm. Maybe won't have the same impact, but similar energy. With that said, my conclusion would be that I wouldn't want to be standing at 300 yards away and be shot at by the 5.56 Rattler to figure it out lol!

Thanks for the informative and interesting video comparison. I, too, opted for the Rattler in 5.56 due to stock piling that caliber for nearly 2 decades. The 300 BO is tempting because it can be suppressed. I was curious what you felt was your 'sweet spot' in regards to accuracy at your longest effective range? I'm just now beginning to test my Rattler in close-in scenarios. Saw one RU-vidr ringing steel at 100 meters with regularity with about your same setup. I also went with the Romeo 3 high setting. Thanks for any info!

So my question is, wouldn’t it make more sense to have an AK pistol? 1. Piston system/reliability 2. Cheap and widely available ammo 3. Better ballistics from 7.62 in a 7-7.5” barrel than 5.56 Not stating these as facts, seriously wanting input/perspective on this as to why or why not

Not many hb videos on RU-vid in general but I seem to watch this one on occasion but hb all day. I saw hb pistol on gunbroker few days ago went for 4,056 🤑🤑🤑 and another fir 3800 crazy!!!!!

*Fun Fact:* The Rattler is secretly featured in Modern Warfare. Be advised, the gun is a specific blueprint for a specific gun. Can anyone guess which gun and what blueprint?

Thanks. Great review. I just ordered the Rattler in 5.56 and I'm wavering because the 300BLK seems to be the more popular option. Is there any way to suppress these in 5.56?

Ok, having owned both, my personal experience is: the sig in .556 as opposed to the Honey badger is heavier, night and day louder (I called mine the fire breathing dragon even with flash suppressor) people would come up to me at the range wanting to know what the cannon was I was shooting, it was not nearly as comfortable shooting as the HB, largely for those two reasons. Put a can on it and it sounds like the HB with no can. The only reason that anyone imho would choose this is because of ammo cost and availability. But frankly a .556 needs to have at minimum a 12, preferably 16 inch barrel to burn those gases or you will have issues. As far as a pdw goes it’s Honey Badger all day long. Now are there other .300 blk PDW out there? Sure and many are good, (I also own a CMMG banshee, it works well, is it as light and compact as the HB? Not close. ) If you want to reach out and touch someone at 800 to 1000 yards get an 😮8.6 black out if that’s your thing. Heck it will take a bear or lion or Rhino for that matter but you want a CQC or PDW if you will, get the right tool. The Honey Badger is the best tool available for that job IMHO

Q Honey Badger all the way. I’ll take my thunder chicken and HB SBR over ANYTHING else on the market any day of the week.

for anyone questioning the ballistics of a 556 out of a 5.5" barrel, at the muzzle, the ballistic is the same as a 16" rifle at 300 yards. the 556 at 5.5" is roughly 1800-2000 depending on ammo, thats plenty to do the work from 150 yard and in, 200yard is pushing it for the rattler in 556. at 200yard it has roughly the same ballistic as as a round being fired from a 16" barrel out to 600 yard.

I think you made the right choice by rattler in 5.56. While inefficient barrel and cartridge combo its far more economical. When 300 AAC = $1 per round, and 556 is 1/4th of that - who cares how inefficient it is as long as it is enough to take out targets at the distances you need (this isn't a 300 yd gun!). Even with the short barrel - it is more powerful than 9mm.

Awesome review! What 556 grain would you recommend? I'm gonna order some rounds from HSL Ammunitions and not sure on what rounds to buy for practice and for home defense.

Just bought a Sig MPX K, I also own a Sig M400. I am definitely selling the M400 to get the Rattler

I've fired 5.56 out of an 11" barrel -and it was 'deafening !' Can't imagine what its like with a 5" barrel. IMHO -If you go that short .300 BLK is your round

Why didn't you just get the barrel for the Rattler? That way, you can have both abilities. Only $600.00 option and 10 minutes.

DI will continue to run until parts failure; carbon, when heated, does function as a primitive lubricant. Suppressed is where you'll run into issues with fouling and heat gumming up any lubrication you have on the BCG. Even so, it will take more ammo than you'll typically carry to do so, and a quick wipe down with oil will suffice for maintenance. DI functions better with a longer barrel/gas system, though it can be made to work with a suppressor quite well with a dedicated setup like what KAC does. The 5.56 Rattler needs specialized ammo to be an effective weapon, which kinda negates the benefit of being compatible with common 5.56, though it will always be more effective than 9mm ball. Still waiting to see gel/barrier testing with M855A1 out of the Rattler... I get the feeling that would still be a fairly effective cartridge. Any experience with a flash can on it? IE, Surefire Warden, or something similar.

What are your thoughts on the Rattler vs DD PDW vs Maxim Defense? I need some help. Appreciate your response.

Can you do a video of best grain for accuracy and velocity I’m thinking around 25 yards / 50yards and 100. What is average hold off at those ranges MOA?! Thanks

Daniel defense ddm4 pdw 300 bo

If cost and availability is considered, Rattler all the way. But if I had my choice it would be the Honey Badger. Actually it would be both.

You dont have to tweak the DI on the HB - I had more problems w/the rattler and last round bolt lock with subs. As for a rattler running cleaner than a DI .... nope! A lot of unburnt powder another problem with the rattler - as for you comparison - look at ballistic / terminal ballistic data ... you are trying to compare apple 556 to 300BO orange .... both are very different .... 556 more so out of a 5” barrel which is actually shorter once round is chambered ... only have about 3” of barrel... just saying 🤷🏽‍♂️

M.V Is going to be slow for 5.56 with that barrel. What really counts is going to be the B.C of the .224 projectile vs a pistol projectile.

Holosun FDE! Looks nice

Ok so show about Rattler Vs MCX Virtus Pistol?

Now today what one do you prefer ?? Looking at a honey badger badly always wanted one to cross another dream gun off the list but I do love the mcx line up

When you said I can't rely on this thing with my life. Then said you could with the mcx it was such a big relief 😂 waiting to pick up my MCX rattler canebrake I just bought.

Thanks I was totally going to buy a honey badger today do not like cleaning it frequently!

I would go with honey badger & HK SP5K PDW. 556 short barrel massive velocity loss & tendency to key hole that stock SIG brace sux. Check out the lancer FDE smoked magazines would look better on that HB.

i lost brain cells watching this

flash forward to 2023 no braces lol

People like you making videos coming out and admitting that you plan on using the damn arm brace as a stock are the reasons that we are having the bullshit today with Q honey badger and all the other shit just keep it to yourself man it doesn’t need to be said on a video we all know

I'm really leaning towards the Radian Model 1 9" .300 pistol. But the Honey Badger is right there.

Why does the rattler on the 300 only have two mlok slots in the hand guard & on the rattler 556 version have 2 complete mlok holes and a half sized mlok hole ?

Shtf scenario I'm wearing my ar15 in 556 around my neck like a rapper wears a gold chain I'm not even fkn with trying to hide a rattler. In normal life I'm having my rattler in the smallest easy access backpack and my glock 20 carry gun

Nice review, thanks...Curious how you secure these things? I want one wife is giving me shit about the kids and locking them up. You like the Vaulteks floor standers?

I’d rather have 9mm than try to protect myself with 5.56 out of a 5.5” barrel. The DI system is well proven. I challenge you to try and induce a malfunction shooting that honey badger. I would be surprised if it had so much as a hiccup before 2k rounds.

3:28 two hands big fella

Thanks!

Curious why you got rid of the canebrake? because in the end you wanted the .556?

Do some honey badgers have spots on them / weird coloring spots from the anodizing ?

Rattler ftw

What’s your opinion of the HB stock? It doesn’t seem very functional.

This was terrible. Please do not listen to this guy. You should not buy a 5 inch 5.56. It has very limited range and the accuracy of that Sig is very poor. It can not stabilize most bullets. If you want an SBR or pistol under 10 inches it needs to be in 300 blackout, period. As far as gas piston vs DI, either will go thousands of rounds without cleaning. You either clean it up front or in the back. Please educate yourself before you present info like this. Have you even gone to the range and tested the accuracy of your Sig? As soon as you go 20 yards plus you will see how inaccurate the gun is chambered in 5.56.

That is not just a clear coat over raw aluminum. It is a proprietary coating to the Honey Badger! It is a gorgeous Billet aluminum receiver! A fine weapon indeed!!!!!

In 5.56, can you shoot 22lr yet?

This only has like what 3” of usable barrel for that bullet to spin up?

I really like both these guns but the honey badger simply has nothing on the MCX when it comes to utility. The honey badger is good but the MCX is better and even steps on the toes of the beloved MP5.

Yea the piston system is great but a 556 out of a tiny barrel is turning it into a hot 22 magnum. If I were you I'd take an effective round over a "cleaner running system" for defense.

Soooo, if you’re going to use 5.5 inch barrel. wouldn’t you rather be pushing a hot 9 mm load at 2000 ft./s rather than an anemic 556 load at 1800 ft./s? Or am I missing something? The 9mm is going to make bigger holes and at higher speed.

Hi, I appreciate if you could help me because I bought rattler 556 last week brand new but on the range I could use only 4 rounds. It did not eject. Did not feed the next round either . I adjusted gas vale but still the same result . Please advise .

DUDE!! DONT FKN POINT THAT SHIT IN MY FACE!!!!1

Should have just made it 22lr with a 556 that short, it just Expensive noise at this short of barrel. i tested it 7 inches is a wash for fps no. 5.5 inches 22lr is better!

5.56 sbrs aren't the best idea. Other calibers do what sbrs want to do better.

What caliber are these ? These are better then ARs ?

Don’t trust the honey badger? Cmon man, the honey badger and it’s lil bro the sugar weasel and great firearms that can be trusted. F sig

Can you buy a 300blk out conversion kit or upper for the rattler?

I also think your lack b of faith in the DI system is unwarranted. We've even seen SOCOM and JSOC carrying DI again.

7 what ?! for a sub gun? Holy shit!

I think that the Daniel DDM4 PDW is way better then the Sig Sauer

Are you allowed to play with your guns on grandmas table?

The perfect PDW is out there....fuggin HK won't sell it to us! Haha

honey bagger clip release always spins around and gets stuck terrible design

Too bad the AR15 format just died per the Army. Now gun manufacturers can stop making those stupid uppers with the ridiculous charging handle.

What is the effective range on the mcx rattler 5.56?

The cleaning “issue” is a non issue. There is absolutely zero chance that you will ever go from “clean gun” to “firing so many rounds that it’s too dirty to work”. If you do, that’s a problem of you just deciding not to clean it.

If I had one gun it well be a mini ak with a stock it well go bang every time

HoneyB all the way any day

how loud is it ???

Is the muzzle device on the 5.56 rattler permanently attached?

There is no such thing as a perfect weapon given that there is no one do all weapon. In an urban environment you could argue that an PCC is a great option. You are trying not to kill your neighbors when you miss who are not a mile away unlike in rural America.

5.56 in a 5.5" barrel.. cmon bro.. it's the same velocity as 300blk but the bullet is half the weight.. and the whole shtf thing, 500 rounds is more than enough.. there is nothing to shoot.. you have 90 rounds yeah you're probably good.

Funny things people do, because it looks cool! its like shooting 50bmg in a smooth bore 12guage shotgun. what a waste of a cartage and time.

your camera work makes me sea sick!!! just hold it still, eh/

To put it bluntly I own a 5.56 rattler it is a piece of crap . Have tried different bullet weights and manufacturers. At 25 yd. I am getting 8 to 10” 5 shot groups. Pulled the barrel cleaned and inspected looked fine. Reinstalled barrel and torqued back to spec. No improvement after retesting. The gun ran with no failures. But with this accuracy it is worthless. Tried to sale to a gun shop to try and get some of what l paid for it back. But because of the b.s. the atf is pulling they are not buying.If you are thinking about a rattler. Go with a 10” AR pistol is my recommendation. And don’t say the problem with the accuracy is me. I am a experienced long range shooter with 45yr. experience.. Basically I figure I have flushed $2,400.00 down the toilet. End of comment.

Honey badger >> own both

Do you guys really think that raw 6 series aluminum looks like honey and 7 series dark grey, LOL

5.1 lbs empty.

This has to be the worst gun review I've seen. Dude that 5" 5.56 barrel is essentially as deadly as a 22lr. You need at least double that barrel length to get even decent ballistics out of a 5.56 platform. This rattler in 5.56 is possibly the worst choice for self defense I've ever seen. Second, the Honey Badger was developed for Special Forces as a flat out murder weapon and PDW. It's what is was made for and what it should be used for. You saying that it isn't reliable in your book is just icing on the cake of the worst gun review I've ever seen. I'm not trying to be mean, I'm trying to help you bro! Don't use that 5.56 rattler for self defense. You should've kept it in 300blk.

Bro haha.. 556 in that 5.5" barrel is basically 22LR. Unless you're afraid of rabbits, that's not an effective self defense firearm. 556 is only useful when it's going fast, anything under a 10" barrel is useless. 2400fps+. It's not a question, it's not debatable haha... It's entirely ineffective. 9mm would be eternally more effective.

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