Smash was WORSE without THIS 

Honestly ultimate with custom moves would have been the most fun casual game

When I went to University I managed to convince a friend who also played competitive to play a round of customs. The session devolved into him camping the ledge with Villager trip sapling, while I waited for the Smashville platform to move so I could safely approach with an autocancelled wind kong. 10/10 should never have been banned.

Custom moves are one of the best examples of a great idea, terrible execution.

Flash back to when I mained bootleg Lucas through Ness' custom moves until Lucas actually came out as DLC

Customs was such a cool and fun idea I wish they were better design for competitive play 😭

l wouldve liked custom moves if they were more readily available. l was actively trying to get everyone's custom moves and a barely got any complete character-sets by the time ultimate came out... l wish they never gave you duplicate moves, then it wouldve been fairly managable :/

never gonna forget the raw anger in my friends eyes when I pulled out exploding balloon tripping tree villager on the band bus in the smash 3DS days

I think maybe the echos should have at least used some of the old custom specials to stand out from their counterparts

I legit forgot Palutena had ONLY custom moves in Sm4sh. I’m so used to her moves in Ultimate.

If customs were in ultimate: “For his second neutral special, he wields an rpg.”

The PTSD Coney has from Ferf will never not be funny LMAO (also I'm Leaf from the tournament footage he showed. Seeing footage of myself as a teenage boy out in the wild was a shock lol)

I really wish they would’ve brought custom moves back, they were PEAK casual content.

I loved customs, but characters should have them all unlocked from the start, or should be easier to get than whatever the hell S4 did

Imagine if Sora had custom moves. Imagine if spells like Gravity makes it into his moveset.

I wish the community could design and share custom moves for ultimate. Like a sandbox mode where you could edit moves

12:40 Problem is, how boring and redundant it is to unlock them all. I actually went through all that trouble, only to learn that NONE of my friends cared to play with them. At least it made my smash 4 experience last longer.

god I don't even wanna think of the countless hours wasted grinding classic mode to unlock all the customs, filling out the spreadsheet with them all, and the pain of getting nothing but duplicates because they really wanted this to be the most painful experience in any smash game. Was so much fun actually screwing around with them tho

Smash Ultimate fan: Ganon finally uses his sword! Smash 4 Custom Ganon: Am I a joke to you?!

I'm never going to forget the ONE time I accidently managed to get a kill with Spinphony. Somehow the turn around completely fucked up my opponent and despite getting knocked out of free fall they recovered in the wrong direction.

Little Mac's heavy jolt haymaker has hyper armor on all active frames... You can tank beam final smashes! And smart bombs etc!

Man I remember unlocking every single custom move in both versions of the game and almost never using them, good times

Wind Kong is why I found out about Void. People said that a guy named Lethal Trilogy was a Diddy from Hawaii handling wind kong pretty steadily and I watched their tournaments and saw Yung Void.

Honestly they should just make all skins more detailed like Mario Marker Mario and then give each skin different specials for the next game. If they are going to cut most of the cast then at least give us more details for single characters.

It was so dumb that they just didn’t give the DLC characters custom moves

This is custom equipment, not moves, but one of my favorite things I ever did with Smash 4 was create a Yoshi set that had a piece of equipment that gave an attack boost, one that boosted that power of thrown items, and one that gave him a home run bat at the start of every stock. If that Yoshi threw the bat at you, you had 2 options: try and dodge it, or try and perfect shield it. If you tried to perfect shield it and failed, it would punch through most of your shield, or break it if your shield is damaged at all. If you tried to dodge and failed? Well, have fun eating 30-50% off of one attack.

Sakurai: "You know what Donkey Kong needs?" Some random intern: "Whats tha-" Sakurai: "AIR SUPERIORITY."

Fun fact about smash 4 Bowser: his side b had 0 frames of landing lag and that includes his custom moves.

Whilst it would be a fun idea Doing that... for 80+ characters??? Fuck no

If you didn't have to unlock custom moves they'd have probably been more accepted. I played Smash 4 for hundreds of hours and didn't have every custom move

I remember when The Force Awakens dropped. I watched it and then went onto Smash with my friends. We played on Miiverse and the first thing to pop up was "Han Solo dies" lmfao.

Damn I remember Glitch 2. I also remember at Xanadu weeklies when customs were legal, I had to play against Cree who did that exact Villager strat. Good times!

I think a natural evolution to "custom moves" would be something like an EX System. You already have a Final Smash Meter, just chop it up into 3 segments, maybe even 5, and have Special Moves, and other possible actions, cost 1-2 segments when "EX-ifying or Smash-ifying" the move. Doing so could simply buff the frame data, in some cases modify other factors like knockback or damage, or in more fun cases outright changing how a move functions similar to how Cloud's Limit Break mechanic changes his moves. Imagine Ganondorf players being able to spend 1-2 segments to change Wizard's Foot into Wizard's Dropkick to use as a recovery option.

Custom moves were so sick I genuinely hate that they banned them. In retrospect it would be the only thing that made sm4sh unique when ult came out

Most custom moves were great and gave bad characters more options. The best custom moves were the "mobility" type ones on slow characters and ones like the lazy charge shot/better homing missiles on Samus that completely changes her ledge trapping and edge guarding game and makes her terrifying. But then there were the good customs on already good characters that just makes them unbearable to go against, like Pikachu's or Villager's.

I remember using Charizard with Sinking Skull and Blast Burn, it just goes boom and things die

Dude Dk Nado was something else man

Wind Kong is literally DK with Brawl Mach Tornado

Custom moves were like if every character got to be DLC without the DLC, lol

smash 4 donkey kong is an air bender confirmed

Even though I was too casual to realise custom moves existed in Smash 4 back when it came out, I always think they’d be so fun to play with whenever I see them

Unfortunately if Ultimate had customs they would inevitably be more “strong but slow/fast but weak” versions and less cool ones, just because of the extra development time.

Me personally, I'd have had something like these down for Kirby; comprising all the original abilities from _Kirby 64_ (Stone, Spark, Needle, Burning, Ice and Cutter) and some additional ones. *B: Inhale/Copy Ability* *B1: Ice* _(blows out a constant cloud of highly-concentrated cold air to freeze foes. Kind of like the Ice Breath custom from Vanilla SSB4, but slightly longer ranged, can be angled up/down slightly on the ground, and causes Kirby to quickly spin and spray both forwards/backwards in mid-air, ala Super Ice Sprinkle in "Kirby Super Star". Also has a different facial animation with Kirby closing his eyes and pursing his lips to exhale, ala the later games)_ *B2: Bomb* _(pulls out a large Cherry Bomb with one tap of the button, which can be thrown again with B. Tapping B drops it in place or straight down in mid-air, holding B allows you to throw it at an angle decided by how long you do ala "Kirby Super Star", and tapping B while dashing launches it straight forward. Hits hard, but you can take damage from your own blasts if carelessly used)_ *B: Hammer/Hammer Flip* *B1: Burning* _(turn into a fireball and launch forward a medium distance, hitting foes once to scorch them and knock them back. Can be used to aid horizontal recovery)_ *B2: Cutter* _(a razor-edged throwing weapon that works like Link's Boomerang. Can be double-tapped in quick succession to throw two, thrown further by holding down B longer, and angled up/down as Kirby prepares to throw them, ala "Kirby & The Amazing Mirror")_ *B^: Final Cutter* *B^1: Rising Break* _(the fiery, shoryuken-like uppercut from Fighter. Low vertical recovery, but does good multi-hit damage; launching on the last hit; and can be angled horizontally a further distance to help with mid-air recovery or to pop foes into the air on the ground)_ *B^2: Hi-Jump* _(a powerful leap upward that can be angled easily to generally improve recovery. Has a wind hitbox on the launch to knock foes back, but does no damage; in return, Kirby cannot flinch while he's rising upward, and he can act out of it while he's falling or right at the top of the jump)_ *Bv: Stone* *Bv1: Spark* _(produces a short-ranged electrical force field around Kirby, letting him hit multiple times, destroy projectiles safely, and have Armour during the initial charge. Does minimal damage after a brief period, however)_ *Bv2: Needle* _(produces long, sharp spikes from Kirby's body; ala "Kirby's Dream Land 3" and "Kirby 64"; to launch foes back. Cannot block projectiles and is a little slower to retract, but comes out fast and can be used to both deal good burst damage and briefly stick to walls to aid recovery)_

There is this Japanese RU-vidr called History of Smash that has a series about custom moves. They actually go pretty in depth

They should have kept the flying wizard kick on ganon for ultimate 😔

As unbalanced as they are, customs are hella fun to use

They honestly should have just embraced them. Yeah they were busted as fuck and janky as all hell, but considering Smash 4 was already super busted and among the jankiest games in the series, it's not like it would have been much worse, it certainly would have helped it have its own identity.

Ganon has that down b in smash flash 2 he is very fun, I recommend you check it out.

Waiting to find out why and how Marss broke a TV PauseFish

If you could pick custom moves at the character screen like Marvel and they were balanced well I'd be all for them in competitive.

I REMEMBER CUSTOM MOVES OH MY GOD My brother and I found the Customs meta pretty much by ourselves. We went CRAZY. I JUST REMEMBERED MY CUSTOM WARIO OH MY GOD. He would fuck you up!!

what's the song at 7:41? it goes so hard out of nowhere??

Experimenting with custom moves seriously extended 4's lifetime for me.

Coney really thought no one would get the Husky Harris "Battle tank with a Ferrari engine" reference

I was playing the Miiverse stage with a friend this one time and post that said, "Mario is a @#$&+?" popped up. Neither of us were playing Mario. Also Smash 4 could've been a 5 stock game with customs on

Custom moves were what made me love smash 4 casually. Most importantly, though, it's why I loved Amiibo. It added a lot of personality to them that just don't exist now.

Damn dude these custom moves actually look like so much fun. If they ever make a Super Smash Bros Ultimate Deluxe I REALLY hope they bring these back.

Dude, wait, Joker with 2 new personas as his custom down B would be so cool.

I just thought they would make combos you know, possible

I still play smash 3ds for customs alone

I'm glad people are coming around on customs, I wish they were in ultimate since we have so many more characters and they could do so many cool things with them

I wish I could find it now, but there was this old Xanadu clip where Poyo used jumping Inhale on a DK using Kong Tornado and it sent the both of them right to the side blast line. Customs were so funny. Edit: I FOUND IT. Look at Poyo just go nyoom. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_ZNbsp6tdYo.html

2:00 Canada winning Hockey isn't a big- A BOOSH

It would be pretty dope if you played with custom moves on stream

it’s not ultimate, since it’s missing such a great piece of smash legacy.

Were customs ever allowed in tournaments?

14:55 One time I was playing on this stage with family members and my cousin was playing Little Mac (he always lost btw) and a message popped up that said "Little Mac, more like Little Dick".

(4:35) That's why the character is called "Duck Hunt Duo"

I really wish Ultimate simply balanced custom moves instead of completely scrapping them. In smash 4, the idea was phenomenal, but the execution was awful

For some reason I misunderstood the "custom moves" as modded moves so the first idea that came to my mind was Kazuya performing the Komaki Tiger Drop from Yakuza

"Does it Edge Cancel?" "I DONT KNOW TIMMY WAIT TILL THE END OF THE DISCUSSION FOR QUESTIONS!!!" "and yes, yes it does." I missed hearing those in school lmao

"Does it Edge Cancel?" "I DONT KNOW TIMMY WAIT TILL THE END OF THE DISCUSSION FOR QUESTIONS!!!" "and yes, yes it does." I missed hearing those in school lmao

Fuck I wanna do custom moves now. Is there a way to do them online? If so ima need to find a friend with a Wii U cause this goes hard

Abt the miiverse thing, I get zss and ike. But why DIDDY KONG?

3:42 sounds like angry birds

Wind Kong fucking traumatized me ;_; After my siblings discovered custom moves,the two dk mains out of them just did nothing but Up B spam and thats how casual gatherings of this game was like for years for me ;_; Mega size,Hyrule Temple,DK Up B spam for 60 minutes(yes they set the timer to 60 minutes always....yes its a casual game with items on but its fucking exhausting) Smash 4 was my least favorite smash game and my animousity towards wind kong just solidified its spot at the bottom

WAIT HOLY SHIT I USED TO GO TO THE SAME LOCAL AS FERF IN HIGHSCHOOL. Jesus dude NC was just plagued by sonic mains in sm4sh that shit was so funny.

I love customs man bring them back

Custom moves sound cool but I never played smash 4 so I wouldn't know for sure. But if they were cool hope there added in a ultimate update or even better the next smash game. If there is one there is which I hope there is.

Jigglypuff: NO! NO IT FUCKING WASN’T, ULTIMATE WAS BETTER OFF WITHOUT IT!

I LOVED custom moves, they were so fun

they shouldve turned on customs to beat bayo (since dlc characters didnt get customs) imagine wind kong v bayo. could have been the greatest rivalry in decades

They definitely could have just had certain characters have custom moves like Palutena and magaman

15:07 My brother and I had to pause the game at one point because Miiverse ended up spoiling the new Star Wars movie that ended up coming out. Needless to say, this stage needs to come back.

I wish smash ultimate had custom moves and equipment's because adding an adverture mode like brawl and smash run would literally be better than what smash is now cause spirits are basically just equiments they do the same thing

You couldn't even link the video when I felt like you've added nothing and you could have shared impressions from this video with the original creator? I have to go out of my way to look for the video?

I thought it said worse with Apparently not

I remember with Donkey Kong on Miiverse it was all cocks in the background

I think one of the big reasons custom moves were banned was because of how horrendously tedious it was to grind for all of them, for every setup at the venue

My Cousin and I played Random With Random Buffs/Equipement and Costums, really funny. Imagine playing as a One-Hit-Ganon against Super-Jump-Pikachu

The more i look at the wind up b for donkey kong. The more i reminds me of brawl meta knight neutral b

If custom moves will come back but balanced, Smash will be better

The most fun I ever had with smash 4 was friendlies with customs on. That and Smash Run

please tell me this stream moved on to playing random Wi-Fi customs

5:23 yo Sol is my favorite Mac player, you can still see his youtube comment on this clip

cony har du sett på Ultinmate is broken än?

15:00 YES! Funniest stage ever

Seemed nice satianist probably Jarued or Ross

I’m just imagining k rool with custom moves

Ah, yes. I remember the last dongbender memes before customs were banned.

on the topic of miiverse the star wars spoilers in old smash4 videos is funny to this day