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@MaxTechOfficial
@MaxTechOfficial Месяц назад
THIS is the ARM Laptop you should buy right now ($50 OFF) ➡ geni.us/qk6qhg
@Yusufyusuf-lh3dw
@Yusufyusuf-lh3dw Месяц назад
Qualcomm is entering the pc market, not at the best time. (Ignoring previous releases). If they entered PC market in 2019 or 2020, it would have been a different story. Now for Apple there is M series chips and intel has already come out of their 10nm debacle. The core ultra series seems quite impressive and the next core ultra (lunar lake and arrow Lake) are around the corner. There is very little that we can gain by going to Qualcomm now. Secondly, for Qualcomm, it's going to be a real struggle now with application compatibility. Nobody buys a laptop for the benchmark scores.
@DukenukemX
@DukenukemX Месяц назад
Would make an expensive door stop.
@songoku9094
@songoku9094 Месяц назад
@@Yusufyusuf-lh3dw seriously dude ? current core ultra doesn't pose any threat to this new Qualcomm cpu. The only advantage Intel has is the support of applications and games their product has on windows
@froxkun
@froxkun Месяц назад
Maybe if they release it in an Android Tablet like ipad m2 🤔
@anires1195
@anires1195 Месяц назад
@@Yusufyusuf-lh3dw competition is good.
@jamiermathlin
@jamiermathlin Месяц назад
I am an Apple guy, for good reasons, however having an ARM windows chip is great news, as Max says it will keep Apple focused. We all remember 10 years of no progress from Intel because they dominated the market, completion is good for us all !
@Noname12........641
@Noname12........641 Месяц назад
how can u live without customisation and the fact that you dont own the hardware u use
@richertz
@richertz Месяц назад
@@Noname12........641if machines can be decently setup and specced right there should be no need for customisation. However I think as arm chips continue to develop you’ll get more options in the future if demand is high enough.
@Noname12........641
@Noname12........641 Месяц назад
@@richertzyep thats what expected from the apple users no need for customisation seriously
@richertz
@richertz Месяц назад
@@Noname12........641I’m a windows user 😅 I just use my time better
@jamiermathlin
@jamiermathlin Месяц назад
@@Noname12........641 that sounds like someone who has not lived and worked with apple ! I have both Windows and Apple machines, right tool for the right job, games and graphics based software, windows everytime, creation, productivity, video editing, photos and work, Apple, no crashing, everything just works. The video editing is in another league 🙂
@KarthikMumadi
@KarthikMumadi Месяц назад
Linux will take this chips to another level
@user-ml3tk6yt3m
@user-ml3tk6yt3m Месяц назад
why ?
@clemenslangenberger4791
@clemenslangenberger4791 Месяц назад
Only if there's proper support by Qualcomm. So far Linux on ARM seems to be mostly happening on single board computers.
@ourmarkas
@ourmarkas Месяц назад
@@user-ml3tk6yt3m linux is faster than windows, faster read & write
@HypeXesk
@HypeXesk Месяц назад
@@clemenslangenberger4791Linux happened on M1
@Sheerwinter
@Sheerwinter Месяц назад
​@@ourmarkasyup linux is good for development, and open-source environment. :) we can optimise this chip on linux for apps. This is a good chip which helps us linux users to move to laptop environment.
@fumblerooskie
@fumblerooskie Месяц назад
This is a very good thing. Apple needs direct competition to keep it from turning into Adobe.
@magicstarfish
@magicstarfish Месяц назад
I think the benchmarks should compare with similar TDP processors.
@VitiateTheImmortal
@VitiateTheImmortal Месяц назад
Snapdragon got a bright future
@inamulbhuyan
@inamulbhuyan Месяц назад
Yes Snapdragon X Elite ❤❤
@caucasia_lucas
@caucasia_lucas Месяц назад
Only if software follows
@Ilost11
@Ilost11 Месяц назад
Apple has a much better eco-system to rope in developers. If there isn't a protocol in hardware/software to get good x86 performance on non native ARM apps it will be junk. All of which Apple had at launch. Microsoft launched the original surface on ARM more than a decade ago and even had ARM variants of windows. Yet despite more than a decade of developing on ARM and having first adopters advantage they're still far behind the curve in software. I trust Qualcomm a lot more with hardware than I trust windows to get their software optimized for ARM near term.
@Noname12........641
@Noname12........641 Месяц назад
nvidia is also coming to the arm
@oKokimaru
@oKokimaru Месяц назад
brighter than my future
@itsacookie1
@itsacookie1 Месяц назад
I hope Microsoft takes ARM builds seriously and the rest of the industry follows. After using a Apple M chip laptop its near impossible to go back to x86 laptops that run hot, loud and have terrible battery life.
@rolih6
@rolih6 Месяц назад
Tell me one windows producr that they were trend setters and industry followed them? The only good thing from microsoft is their ms office since everyone is locked in in word and excel and compatibility with SAP.. if they would not have it everyone would be on mac.. and we will see how this will evolve once everything goes on cloud.
@Gin2341
@Gin2341 Месяц назад
@@rolih6 DirectX for gaming, till this day you can't still play triple A games on a Macbook
@ahqsoftwares
@ahqsoftwares 24 дня назад
It is indeed taking arm seriously now
@xaiphersk5687
@xaiphersk5687 23 дня назад
@@Gin2341Bro, mac can run baldur's gate 3.
@Gin2341
@Gin2341 23 дня назад
@@ahqsoftwares you mean it runs like shit even at low settings with fsr performance mode
@binhtranquoc8777
@binhtranquoc8777 Месяц назад
If snapdragon CPU could use Graphic card from nvidia or AMD then Apple will be in trouble !
@ataytaygaraev4298
@ataytaygaraev4298 Месяц назад
I prefer longer battery life over graphic performance. Hope they will come with MUX switch
@esbanfx5876
@esbanfx5876 Месяц назад
If possible
@GesuCrypto
@GesuCrypto Месяц назад
@@ataytaygaraev4298 for gaming it will need good GPU
@evancycles
@evancycles Месяц назад
That assumes, Apple and others are going to stand still. I agree better Arm chips are coming to Windows, and will alter the landscape. However, I am mindful of these RU-vid videos sensationalizing everything for views.
@e5211
@e5211 Месяц назад
@@ataytaygaraev4298 graphics can stay idle until required, so battery isn't really an issue. only thing would be weight.
@rg975
@rg975 Месяц назад
I doubt it will be any more powerful than the m3’s, but the fact that windows users finally get access to good arm chips is good to see. Competition is what we need in desktop/laptop arm CPUs, it will push Apple to make them even better, massive consumer W
@robertbolzicco9995
@robertbolzicco9995 Месяц назад
A decent answer that's not fanboy apple or windows. Competition is good, I agree. I want to see more arm windows laptops. Everyone knew x86 was aging like milk but so many things depend on it working flawless it was hard to change. Apple could make the switch be ause they didn't power anything but apps on the laptop and word.... Easy to change the game when you're basically not in it as a real player. I mean they had marketshare but it wasn't for business or productivity. They made the switch easily and it worked. Let's hope intel/amd/Qualcomm do the same and jump on the arm movement.
@Noname12........641
@Noname12........641 Месяц назад
they dont need to be better they just need to be more affordable people will choose windows over mac any day
@robertbolzicco9995
@robertbolzicco9995 Месяц назад
@@Noname12........641 mac is or was a status symbol. You have people on social.assictance.bying mac to be cool but can't buy food. They buy it just to look at facebook and snapchat and google docs. It's sad.
@divyanshbhutra5071
@divyanshbhutra5071 Месяц назад
Windows is still trashbag of an OS. Even Qualcomm used Linux scores for their presentations.
@EverRusting
@EverRusting Месяц назад
I honestly don't care about these laptops but I want these chips to be in handheld gaming devices like Legion Go
@alsimplicio
@alsimplicio Месяц назад
Ok…in a “Lab environment” the chips look great….what about “real life use”? That we will have to wait…
@fidelisitor8953
@fidelisitor8953 Месяц назад
Lab environment?! I bet you'd do great in a circus. Lab tests many at times don't show the true performance of chips. Some optimizations here and there with some driver updates can make the X Elite perform even better than in this “lab environment”.
@regicoco904
@regicoco904 Месяц назад
@@fidelisitor8953 Lab tests don't show true performance. It's always optimistic performance
@mwat22
@mwat22 Месяц назад
Windows pcs don't care about aesthetics so heat sinks will be adequate that's for sure
@pranavsharma7479
@pranavsharma7479 Месяц назад
Lab environment thats a proper pc that is being used
@Jackson33oroToro
@Jackson33oroToro Месяц назад
Wow, I would love to see that. Thanks for the content!
@hologramwall
@hologramwall Месяц назад
Wow! Came out right on time.
@mistakek
@mistakek Месяц назад
Hopefully they eventually come out with desktop CPU's. That's where things will get exciting.
@andrewufc71
@andrewufc71 Месяц назад
excellent. thanks for my daily fix
@ahaimes6320
@ahaimes6320 Месяц назад
I did not see performance per watt or efficiency. The lack of data suggests something may be less exciting . Of course, by having 12 performance cores, 50% more than the M3 chip it would be a shocker if the multicore score was not better! I do not think Apple is worried about this. Maybe Intel, but they have been worried for years due to their poor record of upgrades over the last 5-7 years. Then we have to understand these tests are done in perfect condition on reference devices with fans and large casing probably with max RAM and the fastest SSD. When we test with Macs with the same configs when in a retail unit running on Windows in real world tests maybe with non-ARM software, then the reality may not be as rosy.
@shitvideoquality4856
@shitvideoquality4856 Месяц назад
Exactly, that’s what I’m most curious about. In the cinebench multi core test what matter the most in this situations is not how many score you can get out of it, because anyone can just clock up or put more cores in. Rather it’s more about performance per watt
@jeanbaptistelabelle
@jeanbaptistelabelle Месяц назад
That is why the real comparison will be against Intel 14th gen. Last year, a Surface Pro 9 in ARM flavor was like less than half the performance of the Intel version. If this year, the ARM version is at the level of the new Intel chip (quite more powerful that last year), this is a giant LEAP and if the ARM chip has a significant advantage in term of consumption, we may be for an "M chip moment" on Windows side. Very interesting. And yes, I do think both Intel and Apple are worried. Apple gained suddenly market share because of the M chip. If Windows machines can offer the same level of autonomy (performance was never an issue but rather performance per watts and therefore cooling/form factor...) than Mac, then, Mac sales will become again a tough sell for most.
@kushunadkat9087
@kushunadkat9087 Месяц назад
It is truly remarkable that but a diminutive fraction of the populace comprehends this verity.
@blinblinthing
@blinblinthing Месяц назад
It was Elite 950 @ 23 WATTS (41.3 PPW) vs M3 1010 @ 25 WATTS (40.4 PPW) in Cinebench. I doubt it going to substantially higher wattage variations in the other tests. If Apple doesn't to worry, then they shouldn't
@blinblinthing
@blinblinthing Месяц назад
@@shitvideoquality4856 Qualcomm had the better Performance Per Watt in the Cinebench test.
@RirtyDascal
@RirtyDascal Месяц назад
7:31 or egpu's! That would be wonderful. It's the only thing I feel Apple silicon is missing out on.
@behappybevegan
@behappybevegan Месяц назад
And the price will be?
@Techonsapevole
@Techonsapevole Месяц назад
Thanks for the Speedometer benchmark, can you run the tests also on Linux?
@TommyAzzino-yt1iz
@TommyAzzino-yt1iz Месяц назад
Is there a specific benchmark focused on energy-efficient operations? (Not sure but I might have missed this in the comparisons) I would be nice to see the differences with x86 and Apple ARM in this context.
@antalpoti
@antalpoti Месяц назад
Pcmark 10 I think.
@MapleEmpire
@MapleEmpire Месяц назад
M3 Max comparison is needed, it's not fair to compare elite and ultra chips to base M3
@jeanbaptistelabelle
@jeanbaptistelabelle Месяц назад
M chip is not available for Windows so the real interest is the comparison in term of power and consumption between an Intel 14th gen and the ARM version. That is what consumer wants to know. In term of comparing with Apple, first, Apple has no hybrid like a Surface. And speaking only of laptop then, the question will be to see what offers a 1700$ Samsung Galaxy Book Edge 4 with this Snapdragon compared to a 512go, 16Go of RAM 1700$ 14" Apple Mac. What chip do you have in a Mac Pro for this price? M3 Ultra?
@JohnSmith-pn2vl
@JohnSmith-pn2vl Месяц назад
ofc Apple has no ""hybrid" because that's just stupid beyond imagination, and it shows when you try it out. the real Problem is the windows and PC ecosystem which will die imo. running apps in arm will nowhere near rosetta i guarantee you that. and this is the elephant in the room. i see no future for windows, intel, nvidia or AMD, they are all dead long term.@@jeanbaptistelabelle
@TamasKiss-yk4st
@TamasKiss-yk4st Месяц назад
@jeanbaptistelabelle Mac Pro have at least M3 Pro chip.. not the basic M3, and wih 50% more cores even the M3 Pro will perform better like the regular M3.. (and with M2 vs M2 Pro the diff is even higher), and remember in their announcement event they just hided the comparison against the M2 Max.. and actually now the M2 Max has about the same price tag like the M3 Pro..
@richi2870
@richi2870 Месяц назад
Sure, you want compare a 6000€ M3 Max vs an Snapdragon X Elite looool Whats wrong with you?!
@peterbreis5407
@peterbreis5407 Месяц назад
@@richi2870 So how much is the Snapdragon X Elite?
@N3tigen
@N3tigen Месяц назад
Do we also see more Arm processor In mini pc or Qualcomm also have more plans in Arm based computer.😮
@inamulbhuyan
@inamulbhuyan Месяц назад
Snapdragon X Elite ❤❤
@Christobanistan
@Christobanistan 23 дня назад
If you mean desktop, that's not so important since on the desktop, Intel x86 are still the fastest and cheapest processors. But I'm sure Qualcomm will be making an ARM chip for desktop eventually, for those super concerned about heat.
@GamesCell
@GamesCell Месяц назад
Hackintosh community days after release: let’s make the ARM version of Mac work on ARM Windows computers!
@MainInternetUser
@MainInternetUser 15 дней назад
That's exactly what i thought 😂. They made ryzen hackintosh so why not arm hackintosh ? It will be hard but surely it's possible. Some guys installed Android on iPhone (with checkra1n) so why not ?
@SuperPudley
@SuperPudley Месяц назад
Is there any information about these chips for desktops?
@Christobanistan
@Christobanistan 23 дня назад
They aren't for desktops, yet. x86 desktops kill these things in performance because they can do much better cooling.
@brachiator1
@brachiator1 Месяц назад
It will be interesting to see what happens when these chips are actually available in products.
@richi2870
@richi2870 Месяц назад
Will come soon, in Summer:)
@pedrosmmc
@pedrosmmc 14 дней назад
Question here: Does it perform the same when unplugged from the wall?
@scottmtaylor1
@scottmtaylor1 Месяц назад
Why compare most benchmarks with M2, not M3? Also which M2 / M3 version?
@anandlakkaraju6825
@anandlakkaraju6825 Месяц назад
Were the Snapdragons plugged in when the benchmarks ran ?
@Mooooov0815
@Mooooov0815 Месяц назад
They probably where. However, 23W power draw for the entire system is absolutely no issue to be consistently delivered from battery
@TDCIYB77
@TDCIYB77 Месяц назад
Even more important than performance: Will MSFT make such a well designed compatibility layer like Apple made?
@crestofhonor2349
@crestofhonor2349 Месяц назад
The compatibility layer isn't that bad and works. The issue stems from the earlier chips which were all smartphone chips, which are far weaker than laptop chips
@kararzanboor800
@kararzanboor800 Месяц назад
there are one right now, it's not the best, but it's good to a degree for now
@Proudarse
@Proudarse Месяц назад
What about all the Windows apps? How will they work on ARM? Will Microsoft introduce something similar to Rosetta for on the fly conversion from x86 to ARM, or will the ARM version of Windows only support ARM based apps? Thanks
@ukyoize
@ukyoize Месяц назад
Well, I doubt there is ARM windows port of Witcher 3
@Christobanistan
@Christobanistan 23 дня назад
All the big name Windows software is already ported to ARM, except games. But gamers also largely use desktop CPUs, which have great cooling and don't really need ARM chips because they're still the fastest chips available, with big, beefy GPUs.
@mistake0101
@mistake0101 Месяц назад
But how hot does it get? Battery life in windows?
@ianhys
@ianhys Месяц назад
Wish to see some retail products at Computex this year.
@simoneh4732
@simoneh4732 Месяц назад
At the moment I think Snapdragon is going after Intel/AMD laptop market more than Apple.
@minciNashu
@minciNashu Месяц назад
But how many cores are they benchmarking ? How many cores does the M3 have, or the Snapdragon ? Are they comparing similar levels of SKUs ?
@juanlondono2841
@juanlondono2841 Месяц назад
thanks for info, great news
@michaelkovalsky4907
@michaelkovalsky4907 Месяц назад
I think a bigger question would be apps: Mac is sufficiently popular, especially amongst power users, to where it can force companies to make an ARM native solution. Uncertain if Windows has that leverage as it is a question of how many will buy computers with the X Elite, and is it worth their time. I assume if it compiles for the M line of chips it doesn't necessarily mean it will just be a plug and play for X Elite.
@Christobanistan
@Christobanistan 23 дня назад
Windows is far more popular on the desktop than Mac, and with Microsoft backing ARM, we've already seen all the big software packages provide ARM versions. I believe all the game devs are going to be providing ARM versions soon, particularly indies like me. Most internally developed business apps in the last decade are .Net or Java based, which are processor agnostic, so those aren't much of an issue. The biiig lagger here is going to be companies who make security and management software to sell to other business, and big corporations, who move super slowly. But consumers are not going to be a problem IMO.
@TheSonoranSniper
@TheSonoranSniper 2 дня назад
what exactly are "power users"
@Christobanistan
@Christobanistan 2 дня назад
@@TheSonoranSniper Expert users of particular feature rich applications, mainly. Quasi-expert users.
@einstien2409
@einstien2409 Месяц назад
Imagine an RTX 4070 with these Xelite cpus. In a laptop.
@tedboggs4569
@tedboggs4569 Месяц назад
I can't wait to get this kind of power at low wattage in mini PCs too.
@rickquick8977
@rickquick8977 Месяц назад
What laptop was the X Elite put in?
@lairdinho
@lairdinho Месяц назад
Problem is, M3 has been out in products you can buy for a while and we're still waiting for the very first laptop, tablet, anything with the Qualcomm chip. It looks like a decent chip but there's plenty of work to do. They'll need to execute flawlessly to ensure it's relevant on the market. Ultimately this first chip will lose money, you'd think. They'll need to iterate it quickly and maybe the second or third gen chip will be a big success. I wish them well, the added competition is very welcome.
@blinblinthing
@blinblinthing Месяц назад
The Intel products were out before M1 came out also. End of the day, more competition, better for us consumers.
@lairdinho
@lairdinho Месяц назад
@@blinblinthing No Intel Meteor Lake only came out at the end of last years, years after M1 launched.
@blinblinthing
@blinblinthing Месяц назад
@@lairdinho I didn't mention meteor lake, I'm just saying Intel products were out before M1, meaning, just thinking you shouldn't worry because brand x is out first isn't an accurate statement.
@robertbolzicco9995
@robertbolzicco9995 Месяц назад
They will need windows support and app support to make it happen. Even if it's better and faster if the programs are not there it's not gonna help.
@lairdinho
@lairdinho Месяц назад
@@robertbolzicco9995 Some good emulation would help. Apple silicon Macs run old x86 code surprisingly well.
@mutovkin
@mutovkin Месяц назад
Would love to know if Qualcomm is working having first class Linux support as Intel does. Without full linux driver support while impressive this is irrelevant for software developers, however, if there is support I would think we would have for the first time in 4 years competition to Mac for developers.
@RustedCroaker
@RustedCroaker 24 дня назад
And knowing the Qualcomm history in this regard, I wouldn't hold my breath
@wardwillems2891
@wardwillems2891 Месяц назад
It looks promising as a development but is the integration of hardware and software comparable with able? And if not, when do they expect to reach that level. Because then it would be an interesting alternative foor me.
@lsbargaoanu
@lsbargaoanu Месяц назад
Interesting and useful video!
@esbanfx5876
@esbanfx5876 Месяц назад
Snapdragon X Elite at 80W demonstrating how inefficient it is 5:15
@jeanbaptistelabelle
@jeanbaptistelabelle Месяц назад
That is for the complete system, not the chip.
@blinblinthing
@blinblinthing Месяц назад
It was Elite 950 @ 23 WATTS vs M3 1010 @ 25 WATTS (Which isn't inefficient) Them showing a High performance (My Guess) mode beating Apple is more to show, if you wanted more performance, you can get it.
@chrism869
@chrism869 Месяц назад
That's not the chip ,that's the whole laptop
@inamulbhuyan
@inamulbhuyan Месяц назад
23 wat also
@esbanfx5876
@esbanfx5876 Месяц назад
By dividing the performance by W, the Snapdragon X Elite obtains 2.3% more performance per consumption compared to the M3, that is good I guess But as you use more W, the performance per W begins to decrease.
@peeyushsharma8408
@peeyushsharma8408 Месяц назад
Haha love how Snapdragon laptop looks almost like a MacBook (those stickers though!)
@blinblinthing
@blinblinthing Месяц назад
You can argue that just about any laptop looks like another laptop you've seen before
@inamulbhuyan
@inamulbhuyan Месяц назад
Snapdragon X Elite ❤❤
@crestofhonor2349
@crestofhonor2349 Месяц назад
Put it in a Razer laptop and it will look even more like a MacBook
@robertbolzicco9995
@robertbolzicco9995 Месяц назад
I love how apple laptops are used to brows the internet and people just eat them up for word and Facebook.
@ranjitmandal1612
@ranjitmandal1612 Месяц назад
😂🤣
@mukukakondowe5939
@mukukakondowe5939 Месяц назад
This is the reason why the M1 laptop is selling for 700 dollars at best buy and Walmart. Great job Qualcomm hope you continue making such great chips going forward.
@DeadShark-xe1il
@DeadShark-xe1il 26 дней назад
What's the point of arm if it need dgpu?
@N.K.---
@N.K.--- Месяц назад
X86 is not going anywhere yet 😂
@joaopauloalbq
@joaopauloalbq Месяц назад
9:24 You have to use the same web browser, this comparison makes no sense.
@eltamarindo
@eltamarindo Месяц назад
It looks like they also flew Alex Ziskind to this junket. I'm looking forward to his testing when Qualcomm finally releases these for real world testing.
@harveysmith4424
@harveysmith4424 Месяц назад
Put that chip in a handheld!
@btw9241
@btw9241 Месяц назад
All hail Apple for taking ARM to where it should be. However, the heating issue persists.
@-MrEVIL-
@-MrEVIL- Месяц назад
Thats an apple issue Windows on arm won't have that
@xritics19
@xritics19 Месяц назад
Let the Linux kernel fix this issue in the futur for linux users ;) However, Snapdragon makes ARM cpu's everyday since long long time...Snapdragon knows ARM better than Apple. Just a thing...I don't know why Snapdragon didn't come to the PC market sooner and destroy the X86. They've been capable of it for a long time, I think.
@rigen97
@rigen97 Месяц назад
@@xritics19 Snapdragon (and Mediatek for that matter) do have products in laptop market...as Chromebooks. The problem is that if you want to release products to PC market you need big-name OS behind you, and for the longest time Windows on ARM was quite a joke, and people only use ChromeOS (much less ARM version of ChromeOS) when they _have_ to. Apple, on the other hand, have users that would buy it even if they switched their architecture from the ground up, as proven by the PowerPC to x86 switch way back when.
@sheahestrada2868
@sheahestrada2868 Месяц назад
I’m excited for ARM chips to make their way to handheld gaming PCs someday and what kind of performance and battery life we might be able to get out of them.
@joemartin8888
@joemartin8888 6 дней назад
What happened to the Freescale patents? Did you help take down 370?
@SuperRomanHoliday
@SuperRomanHoliday Месяц назад
Stick it in a steam deck please
@martingifford5415
@martingifford5415 Месяц назад
It all comes down to compatibility. Will all the software developers rewrite their apps for Qualcomm's chip? Will MS Office be hobbled like it is on Apple Silicon?
@Christobanistan
@Christobanistan 23 дня назад
Office is already ported. IT's not hobbled, unless some extension you use isn't ported. Most existing "big name" Windows software is already ported.
@krishnansrinivasan830
@krishnansrinivasan830 Месяц назад
We got to learn about the performance of X Elite with Battery & about the long run on intensive tasks :) I really liked it's performance with Davinci Resolve :) Awesome & Thanks :)
@TDCIYB77
@TDCIYB77 Месяц назад
AMDs new laptop chips also have 45 TOPs, as this is the new baseline required by MSFT for Windows 12. Also AMDs GPUs should blow both Intel and Qualcomm out of the water.
@fidelisitor8953
@fidelisitor8953 Месяц назад
But at how many watts? Qualcomm will sip power while the AMD will use significantly more power leading to much shorter battery life while unplugged.
@TDCIYB77
@TDCIYB77 Месяц назад
@@fidelisitor8953 Both are 15W class with a cTPD. X86 is NOT in general less efficient than Arm, now that Arm too is being scaled from embedded and Phones up to laptops, desktop and server compute. The instruction set balloons and gets less efficient if you scale it to high performance compute no matter if Arm, X86 or any other even like RISC-V. Latest arch from AMD can scale from low power mobile up to 400W+ server. The real efficiency savings come from accelerators like NPUs, hardware codecs, vector instructions and GPU compute. And there, all players are now in 2024 much more comparable than even a few months ago.
@fidelisitor8953
@fidelisitor8953 Месяц назад
@@TDCIYB77 "X86 is NOT in general less efficient than Arm" - If that's so then how the hell does Apple's M3 max match AMD's R9 7945HX performance while using less than half the power draw? M3 max uses 50W to produce same performance as the 125W R9 7945HX so that clearly proves that ARM is significantly more efficient than x86.
@TDCIYB77
@TDCIYB77 Месяц назад
​@@fidelisitor8953 I am talking about the general instruction sets, and you pick 2 specific models, from 2 specific vendors, with 2 very specific implementation of their respective instruction sets. What "performance" do you mean? Normalized to what? As i said, real world performance of Apples (and most other vendors today) chips is NOT achieved through some mystical non existent advantage of Arm vs X86. But by custom ASICs for codecs, vector math/NPU/GPU compute. And this is exactly where the gap has closed in 2024. NOT by CPU compute on Arm cores. Not that hard to understand. On top, while Apples lead CPU designers have left to Nuvia and now Qualcomm, leaving Apples IPC improvements lackluster since M1, AMD has consistently delivered higher IPC increases, while also enabling 512 Vector and NPU compute. Arm only locked like a better ISA because Intels lack of innovation and AMD was no competition due to lack of cash until a few years ago. The only benefit Arm brings is a license that is a bit more open than X86, and thus enabling new players to compete. But with Moores Law being dead in a traditional sense, its accelerators and accelerators ONLY where performance innovation can still happen. The ISA is basically irrelevant outside of licensing. With enough R&D and software support one could make a competitive RISC-V laptop class chip in 5 years.
@neverhonors2688
@neverhonors2688 Месяц назад
@@fidelisitor8953 isnt that also because apple m3 use smaller architecture?
@davidtodd2104
@davidtodd2104 Месяц назад
Performance per watt is the only metric that matters in most of these tests.
@Pasi123
@Pasi123 Месяц назад
In performance per watt the X Elite beats the M3 and M3 Pro
@davidtodd2104
@davidtodd2104 Месяц назад
@@Pasi123 It’s a shame that we won’t have a proper review by an outlet like anandtech to know for certain.
@davidtodd2104
@davidtodd2104 Месяц назад
@@Pasi123 Without a comprehensive test there is no way to know that. It’s interesting that the X Elite makes little mention of single core performance. I think it’s clear why.
@rowaystarco
@rowaystarco Месяц назад
Wasn't single core performance mentioned at the end of the video.@@davidtodd2104
@RustedCroaker
@RustedCroaker 24 дня назад
But not for desktops
@GK-qc5ry
@GK-qc5ry День назад
Are the new snapdragon chips good for video editing?
@sormwilly6370
@sormwilly6370 Месяц назад
can this chip run on android OS?
@inamulbhuyan
@inamulbhuyan Месяц назад
Snapdragon X Elite Laptop ❤❤💪🔥
@ps3301
@ps3301 Месяц назад
Wait for the elite x2 for the 100 tops npu on 3nm node.😊
@inamulbhuyan
@inamulbhuyan Месяц назад
Snapdragon X Elite ❤❤
@TheCentristChad
@TheCentristChad Месяц назад
Nice. More competition is always better
@gualbertsanchez
@gualbertsanchez Месяц назад
Can I run virtual machines on those ?
@techexprt1
@techexprt1 Месяц назад
R.I.P *Intel* and all *Macs* that running *BootCamp*
@inamulbhuyan
@inamulbhuyan Месяц назад
yes Snapdragon X Elite ❤❤
@Ilost11
@Ilost11 Месяц назад
I'll believe windows on ARM beating x86 when I see it. Microsoft has dropped the ball with ARM for more than a decade. The original ARM surface is 12 years old. It's not Qualcomm that's preventing it from succeeding, it's Microsoft consistently dropping the ball.
@Dang3rRoom
@Dang3rRoom Месяц назад
@@Ilost11yup! Microsoft will drop it the moment it doesn’t sell as “expected”
@ranjitmandal1612
@ranjitmandal1612 Месяц назад
😂😂😂
@svenshruufx7380
@svenshruufx7380 Месяц назад
Nice hardware on paper, but they don't even have a product (notebook) available in the market. Meanwhile Apple already released three generations of highly integrated systems with optimized software. How does Qualcomm want to catch up exactly?
@TamasKiss-yk4st
@TamasKiss-yk4st Месяц назад
They was always behind Apple with a few years (even now when most people compare the wrong generarions.. just because SD8G3 is not the A17 competitor, just when Samsung pissed into his pants, and relocsted an renaned the Note, everyone lost the tracking.. if the S24U still called to Note 24 and still release with the iPhone 16, it would be harder to fool the sheeps to compare it only with the iPhone 15..) So they can solve this with the same way like they always did, shorter software support (even if they started to promise the 7 years for the new purchased phones, Apple aleady done the 8 years OS update cycle, iPhone 6S from 2015 still got the iOS 15.8 security update at Oct 2023, which is more than 8 years away from Sept 2015...)
@jonathanng138
@jonathanng138 Месяц назад
70% of the population can't afford MacBooks so I'm pretty sure Windows will find a way to optimize everything for the new snapdragon anyways it'll take some time but it'll probably be quicker than expected
@crestofhonor2349
@crestofhonor2349 Месяц назад
@@TamasKiss-yk4st They aren't behind. Snapdragon 8G3 is faster than the A17 in some areas
@1DwtEaUn
@1DwtEaUn Месяц назад
So the ThinkPad X13s does not exist in your timeline?
@fidelisitor8953
@fidelisitor8953 Месяц назад
Apple released its first generation Apple silicon and beat intel who's been in the game for 40+ years so them releasing 3 gens doesn't mean Qualcomm can't overtake them. Besides this 1st gen Qualcomm chip is already competing with Apples latest M3 and M3 pro chips. All the X Elite needs is some good app/software optimizations and it's off to a flying start.
@JaredDoyle76
@JaredDoyle76 Месяц назад
Looking forward to Android tablets with the newer Qualcomm SoCs.
@Snoodlehootberry
@Snoodlehootberry Месяц назад
It’s nice to see that competition is finally coming to the SOC RISC market
@songoku9094
@songoku9094 Месяц назад
I am pretty sure snapdragon X elite was meant to compete with the M3 not the M3 series at all. Also, M3 series is 3nm which is why it would have an advantage over snapdragon X Elite in terms of efficiency and single core performance.
@GesuCrypto
@GesuCrypto Месяц назад
has snapdragon x elite 4 nanometers?
@rtc3000
@rtc3000 Месяц назад
RIP x86 indeed!!!
@jamestillman5247
@jamestillman5247 Месяц назад
My only concern is compatibility with current windows x86 programs. I wish that was covered more along with any pitfalls.
@Because-Linux
@Because-Linux Месяц назад
Can't wait to get my hands on an x elite gen 2.
@Wybrem
@Wybrem Месяц назад
Finally, hopefully the end for old, slow and power hungry Intel and AMD x86 cpus on pcs as well.
@GesuCrypto
@GesuCrypto Месяц назад
So basically M3 Pro > Snapdragon X Elite
@4mb127
@4mb127 Месяц назад
Would be really interesting to see LLM inference perf vs Apple laptops.
@kazamiichijuu1609
@kazamiichijuu1609 Месяц назад
I don't mind using arm or x86, but I would never use a laptop without EFI or something similar. How can I install Linux on it without another computer?
@mamam7743
@mamam7743 Месяц назад
It is worth saying that this chip was created by Apple engineers who left the company with the knowledge and sold it for billions. All in all, it's an Apple processor under a different name.
@richi2870
@richi2870 Месяц назад
😂😂😂
@aggelosbranikas4446
@aggelosbranikas4446 Месяц назад
Very true, it’s literal Apple Technology
@richi2870
@richi2870 Месяц назад
Not true, only a few people come from apple!
@mamam7743
@mamam7743 Месяц назад
@@richi2870 A few people who had knowledge. Key people.
@richi2870
@richi2870 Месяц назад
@@mamam7743 No, the most work is from snapdragon and selfmade dont talk bullshiit.
@ahmadafnan3756
@ahmadafnan3756 Месяц назад
hope windows for ARM can perform well
@Krell666
@Krell666 Месяц назад
Could windows for arm eventually mean the return of Bootcamp for mac users?
@Cute_Maxi
@Cute_Maxi Месяц назад
x86 is over... it has 4-5 years of life remaining maximum.
@harryvlogs7833
@harryvlogs7833 Месяц назад
Haha will destroy apple
@ryoji4200
@ryoji4200 Месяц назад
Low quality bait 😂
@harryvlogs7833
@harryvlogs7833 Месяц назад
@@ryoji4200 not really this video literally showed it destroyed 3nm m3 pro will still using 4nm
@Lubenggazzi
@Lubenggazzi Месяц назад
Per core basis, apple wins. 12C snapdragon X elite = 8C M2
@ruhri0411
@ruhri0411 Месяц назад
@@Lubenggazzi That may be the case. If the laptops with the Snapdragon don't go along with this idiocy with the memory prices and SSD surcharges and offer better equipped devices for lower prices, Apple will lose. They are already suffering a significant drop in Mac sales. They're still wondering where that's coming from. Anyone can tell you that it's Apple's incredible greed, a profit margin of 900% for an upgrade step.
@Lubenggazzi
@Lubenggazzi Месяц назад
​@@ruhri0411yeah apple tax go brrrr
@yogibarista2818
@yogibarista2818 Месяц назад
VS compilation comparison will depend on what the target is.
@DAIA00
@DAIA00 19 дней назад
well... is the elite version the base version? otherwise, they should be comparing with the M2 ultra.
@magfal
@magfal Месяц назад
Is that NPU number total chip TOPS or NPU only? Would be a lot less fishy if they compared their product to the actual leader in X86 chips for the same market: the 8840U from AMD.
@Pircla
@Pircla 14 дней назад
Can't wait to see a model specialized for gaming !
@user-qw1kv2jb8y
@user-qw1kv2jb8y Месяц назад
...and what is the PRICE of the Snapdragon laptop? How does that compare to the others? Can you install Linux on it?
@extra4542
@extra4542 Месяц назад
My biggest excitement for this is that this would be perfect for a handheld gaming PC if windows becomes more optimized for that form factor. oh man, a powerful ARM handheld that can run windows games would be the dream with performance and power efficiency for longer battery life
@adhigamer8089
@adhigamer8089 Месяц назад
why dont u say the wattage of the processor(sd). there at a 23 and 80 w options. u only mrntion in one test... pls?
@chm2
@chm2 Месяц назад
I want to see this in something like the Surface Go line
@iBoyLPs
@iBoyLPs Месяц назад
when will it be possible to install windows on m chips?
@jakejoyride
@jakejoyride Месяц назад
Apple will never allow this
@iBoyLPs
@iBoyLPs Месяц назад
its windows who is blocking it afaik @@jakejoyride
@christianbaer2897
@christianbaer2897 Месяц назад
Any words on Linux compatibility?
@jakejoyride
@jakejoyride Месяц назад
It's already there
@RustedCroaker
@RustedCroaker 24 дня назад
Qualcomm has very bad reputation regarding open-source Linux drivers. So, at best, it will be a one time build for the specific product. Like with phones and tablets.
@RirtyDascal
@RirtyDascal Месяц назад
Just finished Juan Bagnell's video on this. 0:28 lol and there's the back of his head next to TK'S, on the right side of the table.
@popfizzpow
@popfizzpow 15 дней назад
0:37 whats the name of the game??
@burtdanams4426
@burtdanams4426 Месяц назад
I like the Vibe of this video way more than normal. It's a lot more relaxed, natural, and casual
@JorgeRicardo540
@JorgeRicardo540 Месяц назад
We only have to wait a little more
@ggdbin
@ggdbin Месяц назад
can it run x86_64 programs?
@centralanime2131
@centralanime2131 Месяц назад
Yes
@livedreamsg
@livedreamsg Месяц назад
Would be very interested in a desktop, higher end version of this like Apple does with their Ultra versions. I'd still wait for a laptop that had comparable build quality to MacBook Pros before I considered it. I'll be keeping my M3 Max for a few years.
@BeaglefreilaufKalkar
@BeaglefreilaufKalkar Месяц назад
I think its great that there is more competition and kicking ass. Apple stil has one advantage, the optimisation of HW and SW, where the Snapdragon for now will have to do with whatever MS brings to the party.
@jakejoyride
@jakejoyride Месяц назад
MS is most valuable company in the world. They have unlimited resources to do this
@BeaglefreilaufKalkar
@BeaglefreilaufKalkar Месяц назад
@@jakejoyride MS is not the valuable company, but they do have a lot of resources. The question is if they want to allocate these to that.
@arianamirgholami9555
@arianamirgholami9555 Месяц назад
I really doubt this chip would work for discrete GPUs because their drivers are made for x86 and I don't think they can translate kernel stuff to ARM
@ahemenidov1900
@ahemenidov1900 Месяц назад
It already exists: see Ampere Altra CPU workstations.
@danagoyette7932
@danagoyette7932 Месяц назад
I hope they'll give us real OpenGL and Vulkan drivers, and not rely on a translation to DirectX 12. On my Surface Pro X, that translation layer completely mangles the colors. The GPU driver on the Surface Pro X driver also doesn't support WSL-G without a weird hack that you have to repeat each time there's a driver update.
@csyih
@csyih Месяц назад
Was hoping it will at least match my M2 Pro in 3D rendering tasks. Hope they can further optimize the chip along the road.
@jakejoyride
@jakejoyride Месяц назад
What you are talking about? It's faster than M2 pro
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