Solomonster Reacts To WWE Calling John Cena The Greatest Of All Time 

To clone John Cena, first you would need a prototype.

It's hard to believe that Cena hasn't been fully active for 7-8 years. His last full-time run was 2015. Almost 10 years he's been part-time or not showing up at all. He was at the top for 10 years 05-15.

Still weird to hear Cena referred to in the past tense.

Cena was the last megastar for WWE and that’s WWEs fault for not pushing anyone else during Cenas run on top, yes Cena was a good company man but that’s not always best for business, I’d say overall Cena was happy to do whatever he was told and collect his $ without a care about whether or not it was good for business or what the fans wanted, and let’s not forget the product got really unpopular when he was on top and he is a huge reason why, not the only reason but a huge reason

Hot take: if Brock Lesnar doesn't leave in 2004 John Cena doesn't become the star he is today

John Cena actually made The Great Khali look good for one match. That has to count for something.

I’ve talked about this before, Cena has longevity but he never peaked like Hogan, Rock, and Austin. Rock and Austin's runs were short, but they burned higher than Cena ever did. Hogan on the other the hand is a special case because he had even more longevity than Cena and he was as hot as Rock and Austin were at their peaks. He was pretty much responsible for two wrestling booms (his face run in the 80s, and his heel turn in the 90s). It’s honestly hard to argue against Hogan as the GOAT. Cena is one of wrestling’s biggest stars but I can't put him on the mount rushmore of WWE with those 3, I would argue that Andre is more worthy of that spot, after that it’s debatable (you can put Bruno, Taker, Cena, Savage, etc.) It’s also worth mentioning that a lot of people inside and outside of my circle who used to be big wrestling fans stopped watching when Cena was the face of the company. Now I’m not saying Cena was the sole reason for that (the product getting worse in general, the Benoit incident, stars leaving, etc.) but he was definitely a big reason.

Taker was never like Cena when it comes to being the Face of the Company. But Taker was the Face of Smackdown from 2004 to probably 2010. Those Feuds with Orton, Edge and Kane headlined many PPV's instead of Cena Matches also...

Overexposure doesn't equate to somebody being the greatest of all time

It's all subjective.. for hardcoew fans we laughed but in Vince/ wwe eyes that's the the narrative they want.

The Attitude Era. Greatest of all time. The 3 that drew the most during 95-02: Hogan Austin Rock. There you go. That's the Rushmore.

Well they certainly booked him to be the greatest of all time. They are great at propagating things. He's not mine by a long shot and can give a list why but to each their own.

They even had the balls to spam and shove that “Greatest of Time” down your throat on the same episode The Rock was on smackdown. 😂😂😂 pure stupidity and shows you still how tone deaf WWE are when they have Cena around.

Revisionist history at its finest. Not close to peak Hogan, Austin and Rock. Even Warrior and Savage were a lot bigger. It feels so forced by calling Cena the goat when it obviously not true.

I know Cena gets a more favorable response these days, but lets be real. Is he the greatest worker? No. Is he the greatest promo? No. Is he the biggest draw or star ever? No. So, I don't see how he can be the greatest ever. All he has over most big names is longevity which wasn't necessarily a good thing. Most of that Cena era was impossible to watch. If people took off the nostalgia goggles they'd remember why they hated him in the late 2000s and early 2010s.

Calling Cena the best of all time is the new marketing tactic. He played ball with the company and is clean for it's image. I don't take it seriously at all. The only people that think that Cena is the best are Ruthless Aggression era Cena babies that were weened on him.

Feel like this is the 4th video that Solomonster has done about this topic

Everybody knows Bret Hart is the greatest of all time. There’s no debate

I do hate how they scared they were to push anyone that close to Cena. Definitely not his fault but that hurt his crowd reactions for a long time.

John Cena is one of the greats, but all the points against him are completely valid. It's easy to talk about merch sales when you get a new shirt for him every month. Last tike I checked he had 2 or 3 dozen different shirts, not including all the other stuff. Hats, wrist bands, towels, foam fingers etc.

Cena isn't even the greatest of his generation let alone all time. One of the all time greats? Absolutely. But the goat? Not even close

I know his rise was a factor in me not watching.

To me Austin is the GOAT for WWE

Cena and the lack of scandals? Hey know what he likes more than ice cream? give you one guess.

It’s all fun and games until in a couple of years they start saying Roman is the GOAT lmao

Superstar Billy Graham is the WWE GOAT to me. Nobody was more influential… WWE can’t say that though.

Cena is literally the reason millions of ppl stopped watching wrestling during his run on top, like factually he drove millions of fans away! guys like Hogan, Austin & Rock brought millions of fans in & pushed wresting to the largest heights it has ever seen! No Cena is not the Goat at all.

Stone Cold was always my favorite character, Kurt angle I always said was the best wrestler, however hulk Hogan made me aware of wrestling when it wasn't even shown on TV in Ireland.

I guess I stopped watching wrestling in time to miss out of the "greatest of all time" 🙄 I guess Cena was the "corporate champion" that was the concept behind the Austin-McMahon feud, McMahon was trying to find a champion he could control, first Mick Foley (as Dude Love and Mankind) then The Rock, then Austin himself, but seems Cena was a real life corporate champ.

Time is circular. The previous generation will ALWAYS say that their guy was better than today's megastar. It happened last generation, it happened this generation, and it will happen again next generation. People who grew up on Bruno argued that Hogan was too cartoonish and had no actual amateur wrestling skills. People who grew up on Hogan argued that Shawn and Bret (1A and 1B of their shared era) were too small, not charismatic enough, and weren't anywhere near the draw Hogan was. People who grew up on Shawn and Bret argued that peak Austin (post-neck injury) and Rock had bad in-ring matches and were all sizzle with no steak. Etc., Etc., you get the idea.

If someone, especially a younger fan, considers Cena the goat I can respect that and I won't dispute it. But personally he wouldn't even make my top ten.

I agree. Its a matter of perspective really, and what era you watched. I started watching in 1988 so my metrics go off then to now.

Not at Hogan, Flair, Rock, Austin, Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Sting level not even close

all great points Solomonster!

The make a wish thing is BS. The WWE picks who goes to those and fixes their schedule for that. Foley would go on his own where Cena was prepared for all that so let's stop acting like he went out of his way.

I know WWE may see him that way and that‘s fine, I understand their POV as he‘s been their biggest star for like 15 years but it‘s annoying that they have it as part of his in-ring introduction.

Pro Wrestling died in the 2000s now we are seeing the dying of Sports Entertainment. (*2000s the 1st decade of the 21st Century.)

I think the GOAT conversation is subjective, everyone is going to have their favorites and reasons for why they think so and so is the GOAT. Me personally, I started watching in the very late 90’s at the end of Stone Cold and the Rock. Cena and Undertaker are my all time favorites with Cena at 1 and taker at 2. I have no problem with people saying that guys like Hogan, Bret, Rock, Stone Cold ect are the greatest ever.

When people don't watch WWE think of WWE, they think of John Cena.

Cena’s popularity started nose-diving during that infamous ECW One Night Stand PPV. It got worse a few years later after he buried Nexus. And they wonder why they have a hard time creating new stars

“John Cena greatest of all time?” Short answer: No Long answer: Absolutely not. Try again.

Cena was the reason I stopped watching around 2006 I only came back around after the CM Punk pipebomb. I was hoping WWE would get better and it never did at least for me. That promo Rock did outside on Cena in 2012 was one of the best and most accurate promos of all time Cena is the Poochie of the WWE.

I'm surprised none of the discussion centered around WWE's kayfabe claims to Cena being the greatest of all time, which in theory should center solely around his in-ring accomplishments. And to that end, Cena spent 1,254 days as WWE Champion and 155 days as World Heavyweight Champion. His combined 1409 days rank higher than all but Sammartino, Hogan, Backlund, Reigns, and Lesnar (when adding up WWE, WHC, and Universal runs). He had 16 reigns as world champion, a number no wrestler has surpassed in WWE. (Even if I don't personally care about total title reigns, some do.) And he did so in what could be kayfabe argued as a more difficult era, since his time on top came post-territory, post-merger, and pre-AEW (in the same way that NFL Championships pre-merger aren't as regarded as titles in the Super Bowl era). Purely from an accomplishment perspective, the claim is plausible, even if it's not one I'd ascribe to.

20 years from now nobody will give a shit about John Cena nor the RAW/Smackdown announcers of the past 5 to 10 years

I've been pondering about this, and I think the reason is far simpler: John Cena never got a nickname. Think about it- Every top superstar has another moniker they can go buy, some sort of nickname (and in some cases several) that add to hyping them up. "The Immortal", "The Nature Boy", "The Heartbreak Kid", "The Hitman"/"Excellence of Execution", "The Rattle Snake"/"Toughest SOB", "The Cerebral Assassin", "The Most Electrifying Man.." etc. John Cena, surprisingly, never had something like this when he was at his peak popularity. They are making up for it now, by simply labeling him "The GOAT." But yea, it kinda bothers me. I'm fine if there are fans with that opinion, but I'm not fine with it being stated like it is objective fact. This is why Michael Cole is still the worst. He declares this about Cena as if it's indisputable; He can't even coat the statement with 'arguably' because he's literally not allowed. And it is so GD patronizing to the viewer. 26 years of someone in his ear telling him what to say, which means he's just a mouthpiece for the WWE propaganda machine, and not a wrestling commentator who's capable of having an original thought of his own.

Cena was the standard company representative, but GOAT? Fuck no. Are we gonna forget all those years he was shoved down our throats and drove fans away?

GOAT not necessarily my favorite is Hogan because he was at the top of arguably the two biggest boom periods 80s and NWO

Cena reminds me a lot of Lebron for basketball fans. Someone who the sports world or WWE badly wants people to accept as the GOAT even though people never largely embraced either the way they did Stone Cold, Hogan, MJ or Kobe. Ratings plummeted when Cena was on top, same for lebron, attendance was trash at many arenas same for the NBA, and people use their longevity as proof they are head and shoulders better than the past greats which isnt true. I do think both men are good people and dont cause too much drama for their brands There was a lot of manipulation with cena there was a time on raw when he was US champ for example EVERY match was short shitty 5 minutes matches on long boring 3 hour shows except for Cena matches and he'd get all the credit for having the best match and shit like that. Or WWE releasing 1000 new shirts anytime someone they didnt want to get over, got over. Of course he'd be loyal or wouldn't push back when he was the beneficiary of Vince decisions every top guy would protect their spot. He was lucky enough vince wanted no one to compete with him so they never did no matter what they did

Stone cold wrestled with a broken neck his whole career in wwf. Cena couldn't pull that off.

The only person who the machine wasnt behind was bruno thats why hes in a class or his own

In kayfabe, there’s 100% a case to be made. It’s him, Flair or Hogan tbh

Cena's push made me stop watching. After he beat Michaels, and I should have known long before, WWE was clearly going in a different direction that didn't include adult viewers. CM Punk, the Shield and Rock returning got me interested again, but it was still shite compared to the AA/RA days, especially when they started pushing Roman to the moon. It's so much better today than in Cena's run, and I watch aspects, but I never got pulled back in fully, and that started with Cena.

I honestly believe Batista leaving when he did helped John’s legacy a lot as well

He’s my GOAT. I know the IWC hated him for many years but he was my idol as a kid.

Another metric not always mentioned is how well a wrestler can get known by non-wrestling fans. My wife does not and has never watched the stuff. Knows who Hogan, Rock and Cena is and before they were in movies. Doesn't know what a Roman Reins is. Doesn't know Steve Austin either but besides the point I think lol.

His best matches are with ppl known as the best so duh that’s not saying much. In the business it’s recognized that there are those who can have great matches with a broomstick. The Cena GOAT narrative is a fallacy

only thing I'm gonna remember about Cena is how he unintentionally divided fans for all those years with his Super-Cena gimmick and how he buried so many talent I KNOW a lot of it wasn't entirely his fault 99% was actually Vince McMahon's fault the only thing I blame Cena for in this instance is he agreed to all of this he allowed Vince and the WWE machine basically to make him look and act like a buffoon just to appease sponsors and investors WWE couldn't make him a babyface who was loved and supported 100% by the fans like Austin, The Rock and Hogan so yeah I think Cena will have a very polarizing legacy in my opinion

You know, I remember being one of those people who hated Cena for breathing in and out during that infamous Super Cena run with the WWE title; but when he won the US Title and went on that open challenge run and was having, to quote Sheamus, "Banger after Banger" with every one of the people he faced, I finally realised that Cena is fucking awesome and that's not to even bring up the fact that he's probably the best wrestler-turned-actor of all time (it's either him or Batista).

WWE says what ever is convenient for them to say in the moment always have always will

This is a very debatable topic. If you ask fans who grew up watching john cena from 06 til he became a part timer like I did, they would consider him a all time great. He’s only second on my list. But for me, taker is my goat bc of his longevity and he has undeniably one of the greatest characters of all time

good video

In the WWE. Hogan, Austin, Rock, Reigns, Bret Hart

If there ever was a WWE GOAT party these guys would be invited : Hogan, Undertaker, Hart, Michaels, Austin, Rock and Cena.

John Cena is still the last megastar to carry WWE all alone in his days . He is way bigger name than the company

He's not even on the Mt. Rushmore. And not even close.

Hulk wants one more match. Build up to Cena/Hulk at WM?

I just watch Fast lane press conference..I know they love Cena..But triple h comparing him to Babe Ruth???..Then what was Hogan ,Rock Or Austin??.WWE..loves to twist stuff up to the Fullest. 😂😢😢

Depends on the time period u grew up watching wwf.

On several occasions you heard Michael Cole say that the New Day was the greatest tag team of all time. That didn't age well. John Cena's in ring work, or lack there of, prevents him from being considered the greatest of all time. What you can make an argument for, as it pertains to Cena, is that he is probably the best company guy the WWE has ever had. He has represented the company, across the globe, in the media, personal appearances....etc., better than anybody. I'm old enough to have seen these big names come and go, and for my money that title should go to Ric Flair. He was the complete package.

He's not. Point blank

The greatest of all time....what a joke! He is the reason hardcore fans quit watching wrestling.

the greatest hold for hold wrestler? no. the greatest because of his iconic larger-than-life status or because of his contributions to the company? now that’s def a discussion

Only one to come close to Hogan and Austin was Andre. Possibly the Rock. That's it. It's not that objective. Ha.

Cena is in no shape or form greater or better than Stone Cold Steve Austin. That’s just insulting my intelligence. Cena has just simply became so nostalgic because of his part time status, WWE is just spewing BS and people are buying into the hype. It should also be noted the vast majority of Cena’s fans are Gen Z who have just grown into adulthood. In contrast, Austin and Rock were unanimously loved by ALL generations.

Any Facet you wanna look at he has an argument… Mic Work- He’s one of the best went toe to toe with Rock and Punk Even while being hated he was a megastar and far and awide the biggest draw Matches- He has a truly remarkable match catalog looking at it. Involved in Two of the best wwe rivalries with Edge and Punk He buried some but also brought some alot up. The US title run when he put alot of spotlight on other wrestlers and built alot up. Sales I think all time the man is 2nd only to Stone Cold. Idc where you rank him i just wanna say he’s better than Hogan😂

You mentioned the Undertaker never being their top guy but I think it’s because he never wanted that mantra

What about The Rock he definitely on the same level of popularity as Steve Austin and Hogan

"James from Staten Island" - the solomonster

not sure how official any of these rankings are anyway...

CENA SAVED WWE HANDS DOWN!!!! THAT'S WHY JOHN WILL FOREVER BE THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME!!!.

I completely understand why people disliked and got sick of Cena over the years but I think some of those buried things people say about him are kind of unfair cuz like solo said at 4:06 Is it really fair to blame Cena cuz Creative didn't If know what to do with people after he was done feuding with them??

People are getting way too worked up over what is obviously just a marketing slogan. No he isn’t the greatest of all time but he’s absolutely one of the greatest of all time. He was the face for a ton of years, stayed mostly healthy, never made the company look bad, and the list goes on. He was great for the company. But the modern show tagging that slogan isn’t anything to take serious or be worked up about but it’s not surprising wrestling fans would get worked up about it when we all know it’s just marketing and nothing more

If you are above a certain age you will not think Cena is the goat, but if you fall below that age range of course Cena would be a goat. When I was 5 I thought hulk Hogan was the greatest ever it's not until I got much older I love bret hart. I took the time bret had for granted.

I love Cena but he’s number 2 all time for me. I’ll never really understand people who say he doesn’t belong in the goat conversation

We can argue who's the real GOAT but in WWE's kayfabe they chose Cena and there's nothing we can do about it.

Never believe anything the WWE tells you. It’ll be someone else in the next storyline.

He’s my goat 😭🙌🏻 chain gang 4 life 😂

The Undertaker, Rock, Austin, Lesnar,

3:55 Christian

When i look at a all the workers, present or past, for promotional reasons i would say Hogan is the GOAT, being the one who put wwf on the map and being the reason that wrestling fans over 40 are wrestling fans. Austin i would put on 2nd, taking nothing away from Cena, who - i admit - have had an impact on younger fans. None of these are my personal favorites (Savage, Hennig and Orton are), but i think they've done the most for wwe

As an older fella who was using the GOAT acronym before most of the talking heads, whether on ESPN or a wrestling podcast or wherever the fuck else, the GOAT nonsense doesn't exist!!!! IMO. Unless one can factually prove something.....it's all opinionary. And that's fine, we're all entitled. Enough 😜😜😜😜

Exactly!! All those wrestlers you name and that’s just under 10 legends! Apparently everyone in the modern area in wwe is the greatest of all time 😂😂 smh crazy cena definitely not the goat! And I never hate on cena tho he is a legend! But not the goat.

No offense to John cena but Shawn Michaels and undertaker are far better candidates of the GOAT 🐐

Cena FOR SURE is top 10 GOAT in WWE. My top 10 in no order would be: Hogan Austin Rock Taker Savage Cena Andre Bruno HBK Bret Cena CAME OF AGE when WWE had an ALL TIME loaded roster! He was a young pup and got over HUGE with the Dr. of Thuganomics. He started getting booed BECAUSE WWE started going into more of kid friendly lane. They were getting away from Ruthless Aggression. WHICH STILL had some elements of the Attitude Era. The edginess from Cena's character was gone. And Vince wanted him to be like new age hip hop version of Hogan. And FROM THERE as Cena's time on top went on, the roster wasn't as loaded. WWE was in transition. A lot of top stars retired, passed away, or went to other companies. There wasn't as much star power around as when Cena first got on top. Cena vs. Miz HEADLINED a WM! LMAO That's how you know the star power of the company was TOTALLY different than the early to mid 2000s. So u can't blame Cena for Vince making Cena less edgy. U can't blame Cena for Vince not turning him heel to give him new life. And u can't blame Cena for the decline in star power that happened at one point during Cena's run on top. With all this said, Cena's run on top and era he was in DIDN'T have a grip on mainstream America like the Hulkamania Era and The Attitude Era. That's why Hogan, Austin, and Rock are widely regarded as the Holy Trinity of WWE. BECAUSE they were transcendant stars in the top two eras EVER in terms of mainstream dominance! Don't get me wrong, Cena is a transcendant level icon as well. Just not Hogan, Austin, and Rock level. WWE's creative and roster depth was clicking on ALL CYLINDERS when those guys were on top. In complemented their star power PERFECTLY! During Cena's run, the roster depth and creative side weren't CLICKING on all cylinders the same way! Not Cena's fault at all!

John cena is a brand. It doesnt mean he cares becUse he does charity. Its part of his brand persona. Look at all the videos hes made. Exact opposite of who is WWE character is.

John Cena's character can be considered the G.o.a.t because he is the most accomplished top star ever. From all the big matches he won to all the world titles he won. To all the top stars he defeated. No other top star had a run like John Cena. And because of his resume he deserves to be in the conversation. To me personally i believe Stone Cold is the greatest. And the Rock is #2.

If we separate eras, Hogan and Austin run WWF and Cena and Reigns run WWE

The Rock was and is bigger than Cena

There is something he did to Alex Riley, that never got out, n rumor is, if it ever does, n it will, it always does, look at Hogan, its gonna hurt Cenas Brand real bad,

Him being called the greatest of all time is just an opinion obviously, not sure why anyone is triggered over him being called that and by WWE no less, I swear fans take small shit like this so personal like how does that affect you.