SPAA versus TANK. Is there a place for such vehicles in War Thunder at all? ▶️ ZSU-57-2 

>Unleashes whole fucking mag at some poor soul >Gets "One Shot" award War Thunder in a nutshell lol

To avoid getting ammo racked you simply point your Guns backwards and shoot to move faster. This gets you quickly into the fight and empty your ammo rack!

5:12 "this brings us to the first major drawback of this vehicle, if close enemies were easy target, distant enemies will be imposible to damage" Starts to kill enemies from 1000 m and avoe

If this was german, it would be called Wirbelwind 2

this channel and this individual needs to be introduced to the WT community! Thanks for the guides

It’s an AET Anti - Everything

I will never forget when i was driving this thing on Fields of Poland towards the city-cap-point and just fired on the move at a Leopard L44 driving from the opposite spawn also into the city approx. 2000m away. Somehow the first shot was too low but due to the recoil the second shot directly hit the tank and blew it up.

Honestly I really really like using the ZSU-57-2 as an AA. The guns have immense velocity and, it may be placebo, but the shells seem to have a rather large hitbox. I'll only need a few shots to estimate the lead range on a jet or helicopter and the fourth shot usually gets them.

0:14 ЗСУ-57-2 : "Anti target vehicle" ADATS : Hold my hamburger

How about the Obj 263 or SU-122-54? They are both different from each other. They both play different.

Please do the ASU-57 or ASU-85!

Soviet engineers found out a way to prevent era armour from being shot off by mashine gun fire - instead of putting it outside, put it inside the tank ))). it is also used in T 64s/T 80s where ammo protects crew from incoming shells

Back in a day when was released zsu 57 was the cancer of the game...now in all nations you can find this kind of mix aa/at

Other Q Is there a place in war thunder where 1990 tech tanks Dosent fight 1970 tanks

When I saw this thing in real life, I couldn't belive my eyes I thought it was some kind of a heavy tank destroyer. It is huge. Bigger then a t55

omg, i loved this thing when i was spading it! good video! i had experience with light tanks, so i was used to flank enemies, but this thing is on another level, plus APHE are awsome, i've never found the AP-T very useful. please, can you do the american M4A3 76 w HVSS?

With current 8.7 spam it's kinda useless

Hah I killed a T-35 with a bloody Ta-se SPAA so anti tank with SPaa is possible

5:05 i can hear the rage that guy must be feeling

by definition now-a-days. a tank destroyer, such as the US m1128 MGS. runs a 105mm Rifled Super velocity munition. designed to take out T-90s. has a range of 4000m. and the russian 2S25 Sprut-SD. uses a 125mm smoothbore. Heavy tungsten rod. bad range (2000m), good penetration within that range. the definition at this point. is a platform able to use a specialized gun or ammunition for a gun designed to combat heavily armored targets on the battlefield. I mean the M1A2 will not have much of an issue taking out a T-90's hull. and if a T-90 gets behind an M1A2 or to the side, then the T-90 wont have much of an issue. but still. the Tank Destroyer platforms are better designed to take out the Main Battle Tanks of the other's country.

it REALLY isn't effective against aircrafts

SPAA at a certain point should be exorbitantly more expensive spawn points. They’re incredibly capable at any role they serve.

the anti-everything tank, surpassed only by the OTO-MAGIC

the way he says penetration as "penetwation" is just *PERFECT*

so basically for those who are slow, how to use it: use it like a shotgun in all FPSes.

Flashback to Yak 9T video.

Yeah SPAAS have a place in warthunder. *At the top of the food chain*

Im trying to get zsu 57 2 but it struggle but i wont stop

From a realistic perspective, all is fair in love and war; but in this case war. It's a common criticism among gamers to shame campers and snipers, but the way I see it, it's completely justified. Camouflage and shrubbery are there for a reason, and using your brain to hide, wait, and pick off unsuspecting victims isn't unfair. It's just playing smart. So don't spit your dummy out and cry bloody 'balance' and punishment for said players. Use your brain and outthink them. Outmaneuver. Don't run into their "Killzone" and cry when you get killed, because it's in the name. And the same works for war thunder and such games. If someone is employing real life tactics or plausible ones to catch you off guard and kill you, or use heavy AA guns at extremely short range on your side when you come round the corner, that's not "unfair". That's just falling into a trap and not being smarter or more cautious than your opponent to avoid it. The developers aren't in charge of how you use those vehicle's or responsible for what you do with them. They merely develop the tools and give them to you in a semi-open world to use them how you wish.

Yes

Stalin what are you gonna build next anti aircraft or tank Soviet engineer give bottle of vodka I got this azu 57

3:36 when the battle was won and you want to call your mommy to share the joy of victory but Dmitriy wreckd the last phone in the village..

I find it really difficult to actually get air kills in this. Was really excited about unlocking, then disappointed in actual game play experience.

My dad was in the Yugoslav army, he was the driver of this tank. That's one of the reasons i'm looking forward to getting the tank.

This is literally a top tier werbelwind

Can you makee a kinda guide on playing mbt´s 8.7 and higher about how to play when all the tanks are fast and have almost no armor against your shells

It’s a free Gulag ticket dispenser!

I kinda like the fact that many Soviet AA feels and suits more like a TD in this game

I remember these used to dominate top tier a long long time ago. It's amazing how much the game has changed since those days...

Destroyed 2x LeoA5 once in one clip. 10/10

Tnt in the background

what happened to the AMX-13 SPAA?

All these people here claiming ridiculous things such as Wirbelwind 2 or even (the more historic Ostwind 2). But we all forgetting the true fuck you to everything, that had an actual build prototype: *THE ZERSTÖRER 45* "Whats the Zerstorer 45, anon?" To name it easy. Its an Wirbelwind, but with a Quadruple mount of 30mm guns. :D The good 30s, the Mk103s >:)

QUICK GRAPHIC TIP - If you have a friend shoot with it's main gun your fence net structure from the back of your turret ( it's the spent ammo container) MAGIC WILL HAPPEN and spent ammunition shells will appear in your container. Much cooler than empty.

Look I played mercenaries playground of destruction... You don't fuck with this tank hahaha

I can kill tanks from 1600 meters away in this, sideshots tovarishch. Also your aim is horrible and stop spam firing, one shot is all you need, and always use APHE. Also, use your speed to flank first and don't try to rampage

I love the Sidam 25 for this exact reason

I wouldnt mind this vehicle if i could load AP belts into my Gepard.... not these measily 40 shots... -.- which are gone within 2 second burst.

I love your videos, keep up the great work, dude!

I find it kinda funny that Russia’s AA goes from 3.7 to 7.0 . Surely they could add something in between.

4 shots per second* 1:16

Also,this vehicle,now that helicopters exists,is better (and even being uptiered may be better for him,since you can delete more helis,and face lighter tanks)

If you ask me these spaas have no place in war thunder, I find it's always the skilless players using them because they can't aim

The ZSU-57-2 looks like the Russians taped two ASU-57s together and gave it a turret

Now make one on the AMX-13 DCA 40

me using anti air belt and score critical hit on the chopper it still flying and bombard me with rockets me: so it was a fucking lie.

Chinese one is better

Image if this vehicle use Zis-30 APHE to fight agaist ground target

this tank is just light anti-tagret(most likely anti-tank) but slow speed and less armour

I played with Zsu-37 at 8.3 and killed a plane while shilka was in front of me

And now that its at 7.0 with shells that have 150mm of pen its even scarrier

SPNOAA Self-Propeled Not Only Anti-Aircraft

6:50 Is nobody talking about that T54E1 🤣

Martin Timothy Hall Mary Taylor John

So, it’s not much change, since 2014

North Korea has a model of T-55 that has commander operated Igla manpads mounted on the turret instead of a machine gun.

Aye the sights are garbage but once you get to the beast you should be used to that already

I always use zsu57. Love it so much ❤️

This is the best anti Italian tank/lightly armored cars

Wz305 does better, cz china for some reason

Your vids are my fav of all the Warthunder Content Creators.

I remember when these things had apcr and were 5.7 they were insane.

Romanian army is still using this version of AA gun!

Awesome video as always! Would you mind doing the Jadgtiger or perhaps one of the other popular-ish German tanks? Their reputation precedes them and it often frustrates new player to find out just how "balanced" they actually are once they're playing the game. The Hetzer, Tiger, Panther, Jagdpanther, etc... are all pretty sought after vehicles and it'd be interesting to see your opinions and play style on them. Even something unique like the Sturer Emil. The Tiger 2's are pretty solid for now, at least compared to what they used to be, but it's still heartbreaking for new players to find out they're suddenly fighting post-war tanks full of HEAT shells in their 1944 German armour. One of the reasons I stopped playing was for that very reason. I personally didn't care about fighting equal opponents, but I drew the line when I started getting up-tiered, fighting MBTs that have no business cherry picking on WW2 era vehicles.

I'm just bummed out SIDAM 25 can only have 60 AP rounds.. =(

2:10 The AP-T actually have an identical explosive load to APHE, just like German 20mm or British 30mm API have an explosive filler. I still prefer the full APHE belt though.

Do a review on hs 129 b2. I really struggle with it. Please tell me where to aim and how to get more exp. Please! I waste 1,000 sl from many fighters from up high. Really hope you can make a vid on it

actually even many modern vehicles may be called as a jack of all trades, for example lets get BMP2 - it has ATGM missles, it has an autocannon with a very high max vertical pitch, so it may shoot to helicopters. With addition to that, some versions may get also an AGS30 automatic grenade launcher so it really is a jack of all trades.

I'm never a fan of AA vehicles beating tanks, especially now with the Tunguska and ADATS. But unless you lock their elevation several degrees up, there's not a lot you can do about it.

i made on in a battle eat a 105mm and saw the turret go up

This thing was meta back in the days. Before hullbreak, overheating and with apds-belts this thing wrecked everything!

2 years later (well almost) Maus was removed :(

Even though I don’t play arcade much, I really appreciate you elaborating on the play styles of both realistic and arcade

I get killed by those but never have I killed one lol

I prefer the term Russian wirbelwind

I remember a teammate of mine in RB .... Or was it AB can't remember but all I know is that his light tank just got oblirated by this thing

If I want to play like this I'll stick with the German Wirbelwind. It can do everything this can do better at a lower BR.

always germans easy target this video...

Holy shit I just realized I was in your game yesterday and didn’t even think ab it😂

Seeing SPAA killing tanks be hitting different

I think it’s funny how the Soviet used the 57mm as an AT gun a couple of br lower

I played against this thing before hull break was a thing, your lucky

"you're more likely to fight Leopards" *laughs in Maus*

I remember the good old times, when ZSU could penetrate tiger 2 in fontal hull.

Armoured everything car bomb

welcome to warthunder were the wirbelwind kill tanks and the IS-4 kill aircrafts

Well tell that the people who hit somehow my jet close to sounbarrier 2,5 km away from the zsu

@5:30 counterpoint. every Russian vehicle to this tier is the exact same optics wise so you should be half confident at this point

This thing one shots OF-40 from front. The rounds deflect down into the hull from the frontal turret plates and hit the ammo stored at bottom of the turret

My best moment in this vehicle was when three italian armored cars rushed around a corner and I killed all of them within 5 seconds.