Spektrum tech: Hello do you know what's the limit motor I can't find this info anywhere, I want change the 35t but what the limit motor on 2s and 3s thanks in advance
@@juancorona4262 you would have to do testing to find out. Because the ESC is rated at 40amps continuous. Amps are determined by motor size, vehicle weight, and gear ratio. I run this ESC for my 20 turn 550 size motor and don't have any issues. Heavy truck geared for a lot of speed so it's definitely pulling a lot of amps too.
@@juancorona4262 also forgot to mention it's rated at 180amps burst current, so I think it would be really difficult to overload this ESC with a crawler/trail truck.
I pre ordered 2 of these and got them before I started seeing people bash them. It works for what I need in a brushed setup. Mine came with drag break off, so I was happy I got the programming card. I have now decided most people who bash new stuff don't know what they are talking about. There are a lot of keyboard warriors who just want to watch the world burn, and I now ignore them and just spend the money if I like what I see. This is a hobby and I don't take it very seriously. I just have fun. Good video.
Eh, since returning to the hobby, one thing I've noticed lately is that a lot of people seem quick to dump on things as soon as they see the Spektrum name. I myself am returning to the hobby after a very long break (I'm a racer, but I like all this crawler stuff). I decided to come back with an open mind and gave Spektrum a shot. No complaints so far. Now sure, I'm not saying that people haven't had problems with Spektrum products, but in my time back, I've seen way more "I saw this guy" stories than people who personally had a problem. Anyway, I'm not one to judge. The bottom line is that I'm happy so far, and if I continue to be so, I'll spread a good word for a change. 🙂
I also ordered two simply because I loved the idea of 2in1. Multiple people told me “it’s rtr low quality”. I’m glad I ignored that because spektrum did an amazing job!
Bryan Harrison make sure you look at the chart that comes in the instruction sheet on the Firma esc the table choices are different but the card does the same basic thing it cycles through groups of choices it just depends on what sheet your reading off of
I bought a DX5C, largely on Matt's recomendation, great radio. A few months later Spektrum released the DX5 Rugged. Now Spektrum fixes the only problem with the DX5 Rugged over the DX5C, the touchscreen. Guess who bought a DX5 Rugged 3 months ago? :-| This ESC sounds and looks suspiciously like it's based on a WP1080. But $45 for that ESC with a 4ch receiver in it certainly isn't bad.
I preordered it for my scx10iii kit when they announced it and I haven’t had a single problem with it and it’s awesome for the price and saving weight with not having separate esc /receiver
Couldn't agree more! There's a place for the more expensive hardware. I typically run Tekin and Castle in most of my more high end, technical trucks, but for simple trail trucks that don't need a lot of features, this is an excellent alternative.
I love my Castle stuff as well, but for brushed, I find it overkill... Not that overkill is bad, but this is a nice smooth little setup in a brushed only truck.
I got this along with a DX3 transmitter to go in my TRX4 Sport build kit and I am super happy with it. It has no problem running my motor and Traxxas 400 steering servo.
UPDATE. Ben running this for almost 2 years now with zero problems. An absolute wonder of a unit for the money, small, simple and capable right out of the box.
Man If every single one of my trucks didn’t already have hobbywing 1080s and 4ch spektrums I would get these! They seem amazing and definitely a lot more budget friendly. And 4 channel is a lot of channels too! I don’t even own a truck that uses more then 4 channels. These are great! This thing is basically the price of a 3 channel receiver
Where 'sharing' means 'manufactured for Spektrum by Hobbywing'. Still, they could have chosen a lot of manufacturers that are lower quality and/or more expensive.
Not a bad unit. Gets the job done for a trail truck just fine. Decent adjustability, with the same card I use for my Losi Rock Rey. I think the 40a and RTR stamp are what make most people think it's junk and needs swapped out right away. Another RTR ESC I like and most don't is the reedy sc480x in the newer elements. With the $14 card, it has tons of adjustable parameters. All my trucks have the stock motor and ESC in them, some for a few years now. Except my wraith, got a deal on a new hobbywing 1080, figured "why not?" Great review 👍👍
I just bought a used one pulled from a new model last week off Ebay. I had no idea what the extra black/white & black/red connectors were for so thanks for that! I had only looked up the basics to get it started and have been tooling around the backyard since.
Really appreciate the move to 4k. Dat eye candy. This is a great unit. I just wish that bec went up to 7.2v so I wouldn't have to run a separate bec for high voltage servos. I also wish there was someway to activate brake lights.
Right on right on! I knew Spectrum would eventually make a brushed esc around that price mark to compete and it sound like it cones with some nice options included! I’ll be looking to pick up one of these and try it out.
Thanks for the video, I had just ordered a DX5C Rugged and the rest of the Firma 40s that RPP had in stock. It seems really tough to beat the price of $45 for an ESC and 4 channel RX.
I got one about month or so ago to try, it was cheaper to get it then a higher channel receiver, and it is amazing I have 3 of them now, and also little tip, as far as programming, a regular hobbywing 1080 program card with plug in and program it and access all the features.
Thanks for this matt! I may be replacing some of my ESCs with this. I don't do any comp stuff, so it is enough for my needs. Pretty crazy that it comes in at the price of a stand-alone RX!
Right?! Sure, it could offer more amps, have a higher powered BEC, etc. but in all honesty, for most enthusiasts and scale modellers like myself, you don't really need much more.
Scale Builder's Guild the one thing I’d want is more power for digital servos, but not a deal breaker for most of my rigs. That cost for the features is pretty impressive. Dig that axial hat.
I do think it is a better than some people have said about it. And for the semi trucks I can see it as a huge win considering how little room those trucks have in them before you ad light and sound kits in them.
Thanks for the awesome review. I've watched it 3 times now and finally pulled the trigger and ordered 2 of them. One for my Trailwalker and one for my SCX10ii F100. Looking forward to hitting the trails. I think these would pair well with a 5 slot motor.
I will certainly add the Firma 40 to my wish list for a scale build. When I get one, I will try connecting a Hobbywing program card to it. Awesome Unimog by the way!
Great review. I love the idea that spectrum has with their eco-system but, I really do wish there was a way to use regular lipo batteries and get the same telemetry info from them.
Nice driving at the end of this video and nice to see the one truck that did not come with portal's that came with them one to one now running truly scale. Thanks for sharing
I managed to squeeze this rx/esc into a 1/18 Gelande 2 D90. A massive inprovement on the p.o.s combo in the rtr from RC4WD. It now has modulation. Lucky enough to get it with a Spektrum Tx for approx 110 bucks.
The main problem I had with the usual 2-In-1 ESC/RX units was the 5 wire servo output, but I'm quite happy they made it available with a 3 wire as well as working with a good amount of Spektrum radios. I believe this is also the one that comes in the 10.3 RTR as well
Everyone speculates.... FEW are correct! Thank you Matt for the detailed information about this. As I'm sure you know, most People form the opinion on ESC/Reciever combos, that they're absolutely TOY Grade. Face it, where would you normally see the overwhelming majority of them? 😲 You've showed that the fear is definitely unfounded!! I actually like the Slow Speed modulation on that. 👍👍 ...... That Program Card looks shockingly like my Hobbywing Card. 😜😁 Carmine ✈🚂🚙
And Matt, I can't wait to try one! Something I've been WAITING 11 years for, is FINALLY happening by the end of the year! Om finally getting my INHERITANCE!!!!! 😲😁😁😁😁😁😁 (And Brother, it's a LOT)💰💰💰💰💰(a LOT!) It will feel so good to join the Forums again, because I will no longer be in the sad position of having to ask for help............ Hopefully around November.
Putting one in my new Capra and I really enjoyed the firma in my enduro. Paired with the trail master sport it is a great setup, same possibly better than the hobbywing 1080!
Hello do you know what's the limit motor I can't find this info anywhere, I want change the 35t but what the limit motor on 2s and 3s thanks in advance
Thanks for the review Matt; I've seen lots of opinions on this ESC but appreciate the actual review. For comparison, are there other ESC's on the market that offer real time telemetry without adding multiple individual sensors? I don't own much Spektrum (just some old DX2L transmitters) but this is very tempting for the money.
Someone can help me? I have this esc, but I would like to use this guy with an other receiver (Radiolink) is that possible (jump this esc to other receiver) ? because I need 7 ch and my DX4S have only 4.
Which smart 3s battery did you use? I'm currently using the protek shorty. Would like to use a smart batt to get the full telemetry. I've looked at the 5000 hard pack but that is full size batt.
I’m having issues programming the 3rd channel/aux from my rugged.burned out two mini Servos in my rtr iii trying to get the dang end points for the drag brake. Any ideas?
That's very strange, I've never heard of that. That said, many of the switches are pre-applied to other functions and need to be set to inhibit before you start making changes. I suggest you look at that first. End points can be difficult to set up, but with a little practice and patience, it can be done!
Great review and video as usual. Liked and subbed. Besides the adjustable output voltage, what other features were you thinking you would have liked to see in this product? I think all the programmable features/ settings are the same as the 1080, no? I have the firma 40 and can confirm it is legit! I've had mine for a couple months now and have put countless packs through it and have not had one hiccup in performance, this thing is rock solid! It is such a huge improvement and upgrade from your typical RTR ESC that it is ridiculous! Make sure to enable freewheeling and set startup power to the lowest setting for best crawling performance. I prefer to run drag break increase rate at the slowest available level and prefer throttle response as quick as possible for those times when I need to use a quick burst of throttle to jump up from one rock to another ledge.
Where do I plug the capacitor if I remove it to use the aux2 channel? My choices are the firmware port or program port and just removing the capacitor is not an option.
Hey, good vid. I bought the Redcat danchee ridgerock, do you have any suggestions on programming the DX5C and 6 avc ch rx for the dual motor of the Danchee?
Do i have to use the spektrum batteries? What happens if I cut the connector off and use the xt 60s that I have in everything else? I know I'll lose battery telemetry.
I am told that the Hobby wing Programming card also works with this setup if you have one already. Not fact. Just thought I would mention it. Maybe you can clear this up for us.. They dio seem to be a lot alike.. Thanks for sharing Matt. And I have to say the Price is actually pretty good.
Can a hobby wing card work??I have the dual 880 in my moa.it works with it I know..not sure about the firma40.i have the jt.stock it's not bad on set up it seems to me..im no pro though.the gladiator jt is my first scale truck.its fun..no moa but that's another argument.lol.
I HATE YOU!!!! I watched you video this morning while I was working out and because of it I ordered a Dx5 Rugged and the program card for my Scx10iii RTR.... or and another servo for the 2- speed. 😭😭😭 just when I thought I needed nothing else for this rig. Haha
As it is a 40 amp esc and 180amp peak, would that mean that my 160amp esc would have a peak of around 720amp? Or does it not work like that? Excuse my dumb
Scale Builder's Guild oh thats what I saw on the box at the beginning. Hmm must have seen it wrong. Oh found it here pause the vid here: 0:39 at the top left of the box under specifications it says peak current: 180A
The problem is, if it's "smart", with the dx5c you should be able to program that ESC, but it's not, you need to purchase a programming card, I have that ESC and that feature is missing. It is old tech in 2021.
Love your channel! I recently purchased the SCX10 III Gadiator and am trying to put the ESS sound emulator in it. There is no throttle plug to hook the y cable to with the Spektrum Firma 40 ESC combo. Any suggestions?
@@scalebuildersguild Do you think this is what the industry is moving towards overall? I see that even the new brushless setups have the all in one ESC. We love running sound in our trucks. This is very dissapointing to lose this capability. I really hope someone comes out with something to rectify this aside from replacing the thing with separates.
@@genealterio There's plenty of units that still offer that functionality, but they're going to be standalone units. They won't be going anywhere. These all-in-one's are great for people who want simplicity and convenience.
Amazing price point on this combo. Great video Matt as always. But can this systems telemetry tell me when to flip my grilled cheese sandwich? I'm constantly burning one side.
Thank you for this review. But I do have questions regarding the program card. I see that you’re recommending the Dynamite program card, but others have suggested using the Hobbywing HWA30501003 program card. Each person suggests that their specific program card is compatible. What I’ve noticed, there is a difference when it comes to the program card values for each different card. For example, Dynamite Card is value 2 for Drag Break, but for the Hobbywing Program Card it is value 11. Dynamite Program Card Drag Break Force is value 2, but for the Hobbywing it is value 8. The problem I see, is that one may think they're setting the drag break, but it could be an entirely different setting. I welcome your feedback. Thank you!
@@scalebuildersguild awesome thanks for taking the time to respond. I have been having some issues on my sons deadbolt, it doesnt backup, switched polarity and motor spins backwards. So trying to find issue and thought may be related to its esc so thought this could be a cheap option to try.
I'm indifferent on the telemetry. But simplifying the electronics, this seems like be a better fit for the project I have on hold... Hmmm.... Well, maybe the next scale build.
Since the LHS does not carry spektrum or Horizon products i went with the Hobbwing 1080. this was also beore i knew of this esc. might be good when the next one dies to give it a try with my DX5C radio. but im still running SR201 and SR300/SR300WP recievers so i dont know if they will be compatible. great video as usual.
i have been bring the Firma 40 esc into the shop since it was released, and sometime have trouble keeping them in stock. Spektrum have their own firma programing card and it appears to have more settings on it then the Dynamite card. I think that this will be the new must have esc for the majourity of scale guys as they get into the scale scene
So the Spektrum card will work with this? I've only seen the Dynamite card suggested. I already have a few Spektrum ESCs at this point and was thinking about picking one up.
It's been a little while since I ran my 1080, but they seem about on par with each other. Smoothness also depends heavily on the quality and type of motor.
@@scalebuildersguild Haha...speaking of the controls...that touch interface was a PITA at first. Then I realized I needed to...well, I'm sure you get my drift. ;-)
