Spider-Man 4 Has To Be Great 

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I don’t know why, but I think in order to make no way homes ending really stick. Peter kinda actually needs to spend a movie all alone, we really need to show what he sacrificed. Think of the scene from the animated series where Peter talks to the gargoyle, only because he has no one else at this point other than a stone gargoyle to talk to:

Justin Lin directed the first paintball episode of Community. Let him cook.

What's really worrisome is actually the rumor of Sony and Marvel having conflict because Marvel wants to return Spider-Man to a more ground street level setting and Sony wants another multi-verse movie because the last one made a billion dollars. Sony really has no idea what would work.

Everyone wants a grounded, street level, classic, more serious and adult story with DD and Kingpin. Where Peter feels on his own, as a grown man. Mobster characters like Tombstone. Prowler. Black Cat. Scorpion for good measure. Punisher. Some cameos. That’s it. That’s all we want. Give him an arch that works back in the importance of Peter Parker at the end.

I really hope we get another street level Spider-Man movie like Marvel was pitching. Mj and Ned better not come back with their memories in one movie though.

Honestly I hope Sony knows that most of us would be way more hyped to see Spidey interact with Cox’s Daredevil than to watch him see Tobey and Andrew again this early

Bringing back Zendaya would be a horribly calculated misfire that completely undoes one of the best gut-punches from the entire trilogy, and ruin any trust with future emotional stakes. ...so of course Sony's gonna make that happen.

I definitely agree with what others have already said that it should be lower stakes than NWH and be more of a street level film. They could maybe have Scorpion as the main villain since we've still never gotten a proper resolution to the post credits scene of Homecoming

Justin Lin did Modern Warfare in community - the first community paintball episode

The funny thing about Joe Johnston is that 'The Nutcracker' is not even really his fault. He was brought on to do reshoots for Lasse Hallestrom, so he was working with a product that was already not in great shape.

I don’t think we’ll have any issue with quality- all of Tom Holland’s Spider-Man movies have been entertaining in some form. But i definitely think this fourth movie should be more of a solo adventure and less reliant on other heroes or… well other nostalgic versions of Spidey.

It’s not just Spider-Man 4 we need to be great, Deadpool & Wolverine is another movie we also need to be great and succeed too, so we can be guaranteed an R-rated Blade.

The next Spider-Man film needs to be an actual solo film, so no supporting superheroes, no crossover cameos for other Marvel characters, and no plots involving aliens. It needs to be a real street level Spider-Man film like what we got with the Rami films. The story might need to take inspiration from the early Ultimate Spider-Man comics and I whoever they pick for the main villain. I hope it's Kingpin.

With how much of a money-maker Spider-Man is, it’s shocking how infrequently Spider-Man films are released.

Sony wanting Tobey and Andrew to return for Spider-Man 4 sounds like a bad gimmick, similar to Marvel Studios considering making another Avengers film with the original team that included reviving RDJ’s Iron Man and Scarlett Johansson’s Black Widow. That and those gimmicks could be better saved for Avengers: Secret Wars.

Stop doing these Spider-Man character films and gives the character we want

WHAT? The director of the first Captain America also did The Rocketeer!? That makes so much sense!

I think Stahelski would be a great choice for Blade

with all the rumors of sony and marvel arguing and they’re trying to push the movie out into 2025 i’m kinda scared but i love tom holland and i’m excited to see him again

I’m going to go the other way and say what I’d like to see in terms of plot. After No Way Home, Peter has lost his aunt, his friends (and everyone else) don’t know who he is anymore. He’d be struggling with loneliness, lack of support and adjusting to his new circumstances while living on his own. Enter Felicia Hardy, Black Cat. I think she’d be the perfect antagonist to match up with this Peter. She could be introduced as a potential love interest as Felicia and separately a villain in Black Cat, with them being revealed to be the same person midway through. This makes Peter struggle with doing the right thing in stopping her but subsequently losing his only real connection. Perhaps she could even try to persuade/corrupt him to be a bit more flexible with being a hero. She fits the theme of the story perfectly and her abilities interacting with Spidey’s would create some captivating action scenes. Don’t have any other Marvel characters to really focus on the dynamics between them.

I think its also important to note that these newer F&F movies don’t have directors, they have people who are willing to be pushed around by Vin Diesel. I would not count any of these movies as being “his” I think he could absolutely do Spidey justice.

Okay, Ii've gotta hand it to you: that ad read transition was really smooth, haha.

All I want is the movie to be grounded. I'd genuinely want the film to adapt the PS4 game over Peter fighting aliens or something. Keep him street level. Also, it would be nice if Gwen was introduced. She doesn't even need to be Spider-Woman/Ghost Spider.

Heres what Sony needs to do. They need to give up with their universe and hand all control back to Feige. Just focus on Spiderverse and Insomniac because thats what they'er best at. Heres what I would like to see Marvel do. Keep the next Spiderman grounded. If they have to do a crossover then bring in Daredevil. Thats all I want to see.

Seeing Sony/Marvel trying to rush Spiderman is reminding me of when Across the Spiderverse teased Beyond the Spiderverse coming out this year only for it to be revealed that the voice actors hadn't even recorded lines at that time. It did not surprise me that the film had to be delayed.

I had my own concerns about Lin directing Star Trek Beyond before it came out, but it turned out to be one of the best Star Trek films ever made. Now, I contribute a lot of that to Pegg's writing and love for the franchise, but Lin did a great job directing too.

They could always do an adaptation of The Clone Saga.

I'm just excited to get college age Peter now! After the PS4 game, that's definitely my favorite version of the character!

Raimi 4 would hit different

I've read that Drew Goddard is also in contention for the Directing chair, I feel he should take it.

I’d definitely prefer a more grounded Spider-Man that was made to be a drama instead of an action comedy. It should be about people and heart instead of spectacle and bad jokes.

Dude, where’s your video on Spider-Man 2 for PS5? The game came and went and I’ve been looking forward to your thoughts specifically on that story

Why is it that when I'm watch this video specifically, I find a spider crawling on my computer screen.

I would choose Gore Verbinski to helm the next Spidey film.

It's never been this long between Spidey films without a reboot and it SUCKS. I miss my Spider-Man and this could be amazing as street level, but just do it already. And lin could be good

I really hope they go the Daredevil/Kingpin route with Spider-Man 4 and not the rumors of Sony trying to make them shove in multiverse stuff. I’m super worried about Sony fucking up the future Spidey trilogy.

If Justin Lin directs it I doubt we get that friendly neighborhood Spidey we've all been wanting.

For a moment there I thought you meant Tobey Maguire’s Spider-Man 4 😅

I would rather have a contusion of the Sam rami movies then the terrible Holland movies

Joe Johnson also did Jurassic Park 3. One of the worst big budget movies ever. Definitely hit or miss.

Why no mention of Drew Goddard? He’s been rumoured longer than anyone else… ??? Captain?

Spider-Man 4 i think is mainly going to be about peter parker more than being an actual spiderman film if you know what I need

I just want a character focused spider-man film like tobeys spider-man 2.

In terms of Disney letting directors do what they want because they have a good resume i disagree, look at Sam raimi with doctor strange yeah I know he was finishing someone elses work but still

I still hold out hope that Sony will become so desperate, they let Sam Raimi make his Spider-Man 4. I doubt it… but a boy can dream lol

6:44 shoutout Jeremy Lin

We need Sam Raimi's Spider-Man 4

It also has to be Sam Raimi’s Spider-Man 4

I’m hopeful for Spider-Man 4 If Justin Lin directs given his resume with most of the Fast & Furious films in the franchise and Star Trek Beyond

Big wheel Rises, make it happen Sony

Justin Lin seems like he's the top front runner, and honestly feels like he fits what they want. Pus with Marvel rumors of Fiege getting their way with a grounded/street level movie, rather than a another multiversal movie that Sony wants, seems to be the right direction. (Honestly, I can see David Leitch also do it, since he's the other half of the first John Wick film directors, with a solid action filmography, did a Marvel themed movie with Deadpool 2, A Fast and Furious movie with Hobbs and Shaw, and a successful Sony movie with Bullet Train. Surprised his name has been rumored since he dropped out of Jurassic World 4).

It would be great an Edgar Wright Spider-Man movie. Wright have an unique style of directing that would fitvwell with Spider-Man and Scott Pilgrim proved that he unnderstand comic books. I know that it would ever happen since what happen with Ant-Man (which he wrote the first movie) but would be cool to see something like this.

just simply add Black cat who only obsess with Spiderman but doesn't give af about peterparker, and the best villain is this case might be Kingpin/norman osborn but I also interest in Chameleon. I can see a plot about Chameleon transform in to peter or have somekind of fake spiderman would be cool.

hopefully we see peter deal w mental health and the fact he’s all alone. that’ll up the movie 3000

it’s disappointing that Sony is letting Spider-man’s essence get lost in these universe-threatening stories. Spider-verse is amazing, but it might be spoiling the company’s perception a bit.

Even if we didn’t get a 4th Tom Holland Spider-Man movie. I’m honestly okay with where his character ended. Not saying I wouldn’t want to see him reprise his role of Spider-Man but between Sony and Disney it’s such a giant mess that I would want the next Spider-Man film to be completely separated from the MCU

Spider-Man 4 is on a really slippery slope at the moment. On one hand you have ppl who want them to keep playing it safe and not make any improvements and on the other are people who want them to just make it “street level” as if that’s a guarantee that they’re gonna get Spider-Man right this time. It’s not. There’s a lot that goes into making a Spider-Man movie that feels like a true display of what SPIDER-MAN offers the film medium that you can’t encapsulate in “make it street level”. And unfortunately I don’t think Marvel or Sony is capable of understanding that. They’re both so determined to recapture the hype of their previous eras that they might not even consider the fact that what people actually want is a Spider-Man movie that feels PASSIONFUL. People are gonna keep demanding a “street level” Spider-Man movie and marvel will probably give them that, but it most likely still won’t result in anything that great. What Spider-Man needs is a director with real creative agency and knows how to tell an emotional story without compromising.

Am I the only one who really dislikes Ultimate Spider-Man? It totally defeats the purpose of both what an "Ultimate Universe" was for, and the point of Spider-Man, by taking away his origin and making him someone who really really wants a nuclear family despite og Lee era Peter being explicitly content with his unique one.

I would love to see Edgar Wright but...

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A Spider-Man 4 movie (Toby Macguire not Tom Holland) should adapt Spider-Man: Renew Your Vows.

A Raimi/Holland _Spider-Man_ would be cool too. Well tbh, I just want Raimi to make some fun schlock again.

Somehow Ultimate Spiderman returned

I want a back to basics grounded street level Spider-Man story

Justin Li being the director worries me. Bad idea, JW’s director would be fire

Literally all sony had to do was make good Miles Morales movies that took place in their own universe, then sometimes he crosses over to the main universe like in the comics with Ultimate Miles Morales I don't understand why they didn't do that, maybe Marvel has the rights to dictate Miles Morales' story too right now?

Whatever they do, please no JJ Abrams.

The reason Spider-Man has endured for 60+ years is because we love the person under the mask. Phasing out the Peter Parker side of the character would be a COLOSSAL MISTAKE and demonstrate a true misunderstanding of the character’s core. Stories that we love, such as Spectacular Spider-Man, Spider-Man 2, Spider-Man PS4 and on and on and on wouldn’t have been as special without the Peter Parker parts of the story. THE PERSON UNDER THE MASK IS CRUCIAL TO SPIDER-MAN AND TO REMOVE THAT IS TO REMOVE THE CORE OF THE CHARACTER!!!!!!

Fun fact, Justin Lin used to be a pseudonym used by multiple people until the one being talked about in this video basically monopolized it and branded himself as THE Justin Lin

Drew Goddard should do it

An issue that I feel the Sony Spiderverse movies are creating is that they are burning through a lot of the potentially interesting villains - having Tom Holland's Spiderman go up against somebody like Kraven or Morbius would be really interesting (especially if the latter plays up the supernatural elements of the character) but I can't see it happening with the Kraven movie looking like a surefire box office disaster and Morbius already being so.

The MCU has always been director driven but that feels less true now. They have too much creative control and ruin the integrity of the movies and especially the TV shows. That’s just what I’ve seen.

I want Drew Pearce directing and want it to be street level with Spider-Man working with Daredevil, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, and Punisher to take on Kingpin who has recruited Bullseye, Vulture and Scorpion

3:37-- could THIS guy be Reed Richards??

All I want is for Kingpin to be the main villain of the movie, with Kraven or Scorpion to be hired by him to kill Spider-Man and Daredevil. I want Kraven only because he was originally supposed to be the main villain of No Way Home before they settle for the multiverse movie. Or Scorpion because he could be created by the Kingpin to beat Spider-Man, similar to how JJ help fund for Scorpion's creation in the comics. Also add Black Cat as the love interest, as we never saw in any of the movies, well besides ASM2 but she wasn't Black Cat in the movie. Plus it could add to an interesting dynamic of someone loving Spider-Man and not Peter Parker, especially because no one knows who Peter is.

I want a Paul Greengrass Spiderman.

I'm going completely off the rails: Peter is just walking down the street, minding his business and then a Corvette pulls over, Johnny Storm comes out, says "Yoink!" And grabs Peter and they drive off together.

I would love to see a Spider-Man 4 and an Amazing Spider-Man 3 but for me we need to move on and focus on MCU Spider-Man. Have them both show up in Secret Wars or something similar but let us focus on Holland’s Spidey. We should see how he copes in college after having lost everything and everyone, challenge him with some menacing street level crime like Kingpin (Daredevil crossover maybe?) or Tombstone, finally pay of the set up for the Scorpion, introduce Black Cat (I can’t believe she hasn’t appeared in a single one of the Spider-Man films yet in the last 2 decades) with her tempting him to ignore his life as Peter entirely, let him be the friendly neighbourhood Spider-Man, oh and either introduce or significantly tease the black suit for the sequel as well

as long its a good street level hero movie and not a multivervse story again (street level for Tom and Spiderverse for Miles)

Buddy cop spidey film with Maguire and Garfield. And bring in Phil Lord and Chris Miller to write/direct

I just hope he gets the character moments right and not just a action movie.

I think a Spider-Man 4 with Holland seems exciting, but I think No Way Home felt like a great closure for the character. Sad, yes, now that he's all alone and have no one in his life no more but felt kinda conclusive. And a 4th movie with Tobey would be awesome, if done right. I personally would like to see another Spider-Man Reboot that takes place in the 60s and feel very Comic Booky like the Spider-verse films. I know the upcoming Fantastic Four movie might take place in that time period, but still, it would be amazing!

I just want to see: Spiderman in nyc, being spiderman. No other city, no outerspace. Maybe an x-men or daredevil cross over at the most. Show us more of him being smart. No zendia, no ned. Move into the next chapter of his life. The college years, introduce gwen stacy. Andrew Garfield's gwen was awesome. The police vs some other heroes and spiderman gets involved!! Start the kingpin stuff. Movie one, low level villian then daredevil and kingpin Movie two x-men and the morloks (really this is about the broader risevof powers and the need for responsibility with power, as peter is in uni and there can be parallels to xsftg) Movie three west coast avenger and alpha flight and sheild + sword. This is the big end swing and peter having to take a leaders posion with everything he's learned.

I'd like to see a live action Noir Spiderman movie...

You mentioning a "man wolf" movie made me laugh....then it immediately terrified me because based on recent trends I can 100% see sony green-lighting a manwolf movie.

Since we're on the topic of rumors, some scoopers have said Feige "won" the battle of making it street level and back to Spidey's roots. Pointing out they're fumbling with their other Spider-Man related, but no Spider-Man involved characters.

I love John wick Spider-Man idea

I want a gritty dark Garfield movie, shades of the dark knight type vibes

Justin Lin directing Spider-Man action scenes, sounds like it would be really interesting to see.

If Justin Lin was able and willing to do the character work he did in Better Luck Tomorrow, it would be amazing.

3:40 " _Beyond_ may have a lot of the action that [Lin's] known for, but it feels more like _Star Trek_ than the previous film _Into Darkness_ did", a bar to clear so low that there are Horta digging around it 😉

I hate how they've given Spider Man a desperate need to be affirmed by Daddy Iron Man.

Some rules I personally want for a new Spider-Man movie - And the majority will agree: 1. Tom Holland is out and Andrew Garfield is back in! 2. This is "Amazing Spider-Man 3". 3. Story develoments: We work with a master-villain(s) in the shadows who tests Spider-Man to his limits with various disasterfull attacks with services by Rhino & Vulture and various professional mercenary hired ex soldiers (build-up for the Sinister Six in the 4th or 5th movie). At same time aka Parker licks his wounds and wrestle with the Oscorp shadows and what his father knows combined with the final acception of Gwen is not in his life and MJ is introduced to his life (but not to become a couple yet here) 4. No what-so-ever multi dimensions in story and no reference either. 5. No connection with the sinking ship known as MCU. 6. We need a more serious and more mature tone here - and screw anything that is Woke related. That includes: - NO bait & switch BS, - NO racial politics, - NO Lgbtq+- etc politics, (ENOUGH) Go and make your own content with that to sell and leave original IP's alone! - NO gender or race swapings of original established characters = Respect the IP. - NO "Mary Sues" or "girl boss" elements what-so-ever here. ENOUGH! - NO weak/incompetent male character portrays here.

Spider-Man 4 could have been great if Sam Raimi want to direct it

Just going off the rumors, I’m worried that Sony will just want to make NWH 2 and give another bit multiverse movie. Which would feel incredibly cheap and unearned and shows a huge misunderstanding of why NWH was so successful. You can’t just piggy back on something that big and expect it to have the same impact. Starting back at a more grounded spidey story, like homecoming did and building back up to a huge event is the only way this would work.

Kind of prefer Jake Johnson to play spidey in this one to be honest. I've already seen what tobey can do and Jake seems better for old Peter

It doesn't have to be great it has to be Amazing. This way we have another good spider-media to shovel on ASM editorial

Idk if it’s a stretch or not But I think Marvel should get some of the writers from Insomniac. Regardless of how you feel about the pacing of the games I think the writing is so good. The First Spiderman game on PS4 may be up there as one of my favorite versions of all time. The more human moments in those games are better than anything in the MCU Spiderman movies

I think Amazing Spider-Man 3 is what they should do. Drop all the Sinister Six plots of TASM2 and just focus on a movie about Spider-Man/Peter trying to be open with others for the first time since Gwen died years ago.