Stargate SG-1 - Heru'ur gets OWNED 

My friend I know it's countless years later but each gou'ald is genetically related so basically he didn't take his nephew at his word and kills his brother ra son because he thought he would stab him in the back because that is what he would do if there position were reversed what a fucked up life form I bet you the atlantian were responsible for the creation of the goa'uld accident or not they were probably put in those lakes for the unas to eat 😀

@Mackenzie Bauroth Apophis did too, actually. Him coming to the SGC in "Serpent's Song" is him committing suicide-by-Tau'ri. Hoping Sokar would take them out along with him. He was talking tough but seemed to know it as the end.

You can always trust a dishonest man to be dishonest. Basically if your surrounding by lying backstabber's it's better to be the betrayer than the betrayed.

He should have ordered his ship to enter hyperspace immediately when he saw that

@@smik4978 Or he should have sent for reinforcements.

Our faces when we see a cloaked fleet

@@smik4978 He should have riased shields then thry to enter hyperspace.

At that moment he knew... he f***ed up

He says "know this Her'ru! You will die at the hands of Apophis"

@@Tylerpierre99 could've been "yoo-hoo her'ur, i think your dead now"

"Your so dead, heru'ur."

Yeah, a good bit of that happened with this show, then next thing you know, they're having to break out ridiculous stuff like the unkillable Anubis with his absurd levels of knowledge and resources or the lazy jab at christianity known as the Ori, because they used up practically all the interesting villains too soon.. . How Baal managed to make it to the end is a testament to actor playing him's charisma.

@@InfernosReaper Having n+1 clones of himself helped, too.

Same with Sokar; Sokar is still my favorite SG1 villain.

​@São João do mundo Both Islam *and* Christianity are notorious for conversion by sword and war for their god. It's something they inherited from Judaism.

@@InfernosReaper 100% Agree. We should have seen all the Gods of Egyptian Pantheon fight over the power vacuum left by Ra and meet the Gods of the other surrounding pantheons in neighboring civilizations.

Kree not Cree

It’s like saying Shalom

Jack O'Neill "You heard me, I said Kree"! or when he said "back at ya".

I think "Kree" has varied uses, depending on the context of the situation, but typically, it kinda means "hear me!" or "listen up!"

He wouldn't have had time to maneuver away from Apophis' ship before being fired upon. Seeing as Apophis' weapons were strong enough to wipe through Heruurs shields with only a couple shots, he was dead anyway.

As soon as his ship detected something happened, he should've gotten the hell out of dodge

It's all down to writing. They wanted Horus dead so they killed him. Realistically that's what the should have done though.

no you wouldn't - you'd have done exactly as heru-ur did, because that's what heru-ur did.

perfect

Durge75 he was martuff right?

Oishii Kudasai no it was Samˋs father, Jacob/Selmak

rob kemp so did anubis. ;)

Too bad he died like a bitch.

The replicators thought so too.

@@realcashew4807 Sokar didn't have this mothership :/

@@logthemini Sokar originally designed it before Apophis took over his empire.

It is a pity we will never discover it, as far as I know there is no translation about it.

Everything about your profile pic and your comment is totally 90's :D

they never did a translation thing Goa'uld to English I think, so writers just sort of muddled through the linguistic bit

I've always thought it was something like 'attention heru'ur now you shall feel the wrath of apophis'.

Yoo-Hoo!

The Goa'uld don't share technology with each other so the technology and/or techniques required to construct a cloaking device capable of hiding a Ha'tak was lost after the death of Apophis in 2001, as no further Ha'taks were ever equipped with a cloak.

It's entirely possible that fleet was an experiment. Why not use a disposable "subordinate" to test a system that may not work?

I think he's a better villain that he didn't fight back here. He knew he was done. He wasn't happy about it, but he accepted it. If he'd tried to attack the fleet despite knowing he'd get obliterated... that would've been predictable and annoyingly desperate. This way he had a few moments of dignity.

That's not really my point. My gripe with the handling of his character is that he never came off as a true feared evil boss. He certainly looked the part but every time he showed up he only got his ass kicked in the end. Every single time.

true i always saw him as a bad ass but he always got shafted

If Heru'ur had fired the minefield would have destroyed his ship, instead of Apophis's ship, the only reason Apophis got away with firing, was his fleet of ships their to cover his exit.

he had the face of someone who knew he is going to die, but at the very least he died with his snakehead held high

@IJN Yamato As far as i know, Paul Koslo(the goauld Terok in this one) and Carmen Argenziano(Jacob Carter in the series)

@IJN Yamato true enough. but i still feel bad about already having lost 2 imo very good actors from my favourite show so early in the year. It's just a surprise every time you google someone's name to find out who played them and you see they died only 2 months ago.

@@iodreamify Rip Hammond

'From my point of view the JEDI are evil!'

I prefer sokar

Only for his time but they could have shown more of each system lord throughout the series

He brought Stargate to live Ball was ok I say Ball was more of a joker System Lord then a bad one in my books Apophis was the true bad ass he even out did Ra I say they should have let Maj Kawlski lived and let him and Lord Apophis have a few episodes more then what we seen

he died screaming though ba'al was my favorite when his end came he just got shot in the head

@@gateofthegods1332 look up apophus rise and fall of a system lord personally I was sorry ra got nuked there could have been a lot of story with it I say that because gou'ald have no gender I've always been interested in mythology so I was sanded when the show didn't show both sides of the coin kind of like avatar the navi got more screen time than the NRD

If "Kre" is the translation of "fuck" well... Jaffa Kre get's a whole new meaning...

Kre, I think, is one of the words with multiple meanings, so, who knows?

To be fair, "fuck" also has multiple meanings.

It was established not all that far into the series that "kree" has a lot of meanings.

jaffa kreeeeeeeeeeeeee

+Marik You know what he did to his brother, right?

Do you both know that they are goauld and they dont really give a shit about each other?

As Teal'c said "All Goa'uld desire power and will betray their own Brother to achieve it"

@@marcoboscarol2420 But he seemed to care about his wife.

@@rockman6821 Seems(?) and is are two different things

On the other hand, you do want to avoid the villain that keeps dying but always coming back though.

Stargate had an issue with the “bigger bad guy” cliche. Defeat Apophis and Anubis takes his place, defeat him and the Ori show up. It would however have been interesting to see how Apophis would have dealt with the competition instead of being replaced by them. Maybe he would side with SG-1 against a common enemy, maybe he would be forced to serve Anubis. Maybe he has a redemption arc. I feel they could have done more with him. (Especially his connection to Teal’c and his people) but, they likely didn’t realize they would get 5 more seasons, would they have killed him off if they knew?

​@@henkman00 I don't think it's a loss to not see how Apophis side up against a common enemy because we already see Ba'al do that. Redemption arcs don't fit the Gou'uld at all because if it was possible there wouldn't be a need for the Tokra. Apophis holds the unique position of being a standard for all Gou'uld that we have never met. If you start having things like redemption arcs it kind of kills the whole thing. He remains comically egomaniacal almost the entire way through and gets killed off. There's no other Gou'uld in the series like that. I think Heru'ur got the short end of the stick if anything. Having a knife personally thrown through his hand must have opened the way for interesting future interactions.

Kree jaffa

He sacrificed 15 ships like that because he could replace them with ease. Firstly absorbing Heru’ur fleet, and Delmak. Delmak is a high industrial world. Capable of pumping out war equipment with ease,

They also look to be the old style hatak. So probably the worst of his fleet. How he had them cloaked I don't know. Can't remember any other hataks do that in another episode

Funny, considering he previously lost his System Lord status just by having two hataks blown out of the sky

@@daveyb454 I think that's a misnomer. The difference in Ha'tak design is down to graphics limitations of the time. The only thing that separates the Anubis Ha'tak from these Ha'tak are augmented shields and weapons (and maybe cloaking devices).

@@Elydir Those two ships were carrying most of his best warriors at the time. We never see the ships here blowing up there taking the mines impacts on their shields best case he might have only had a crew of 4 piloting each of the ships. That and by right of conquest he just got all Heru'ur territory and resources. The Tok'ra set up this plan to get the two of them to fight and weaken each other since Heru'ur had the next biggest fleet out of the system lords.

they did , when teal'c was captured by heru'ur did you see that part

Probably because with the death of their overlord, they didn't have anyone else to fill Sokar's shoes and since Apophis was already a very polarizing figure in the Gould Empire. They decided to make him the new 'Sokar'. Otherwise Sokar's considerable forces would have been headless and be at the mercy of other system lords out there looking to pick them apart. I mean just look at what happened when Ra died.

barbiquearea Apophis was a conqueror among his kind, so it stands to reason they sided with him. He was only ever toppled by SG-1. In the absence of Sokar, Apophis was their best choice.

kytim89 My thoughts exactly. And besides he did at least took responsibility for 'killing' Sokar which according to Gould laws, allows him to inherit all of Sokar's assets.

in turn this allowed anubis and baal to rise to power

Rooster Montgomery But I have never seen him in a sarchophagus at the end of "The Devil you know"; when he leaves Ne'tu we don't see him heavily disfigured, but there are no news that he used a sarchophagus after then; this probably is the motivation because he didn't completely healed from the injures and he has those two plates. See you soon. Guido.

Well good for you there is an episode where the people questioned a Goa'uld after asking such a thing.

Rooster Montgomery metal plates where probably for intimidation

Hey I'm answering late so I don't think you'll see this. However, from memory, I think that Apophis face was injured somewhere in a previous episode,but I'm not 100% sure (I must admit, I didn't watch Stargate for a while). #FromAnOldFan

Apophis' face was disfigured when he was Sokar's prisoner. However I would imagine the plates are for intimidation and a mark of pride like "I journeyed through the underworld, killed the god of death and took his power!" They're battle scars. You are right the sarcophagus would heal the scars, hence why he has the metal plates to keep them in tact. And yes he must have used a sarcophagus as his host is nearly two thousand years old, we see in a previous episode that if he goes for a long time without a sarcophagus his host will age rapidly.

+Rob Fraser bahahaha... your comment was... gold... GOA'ULD!

Laughed at this much harder than i should have

Clearly they're a member of the Dominion

It's possible only Sokar knew now to make them and he took that knowledge with to the grave. Apophis probably had only a few dozen ships (prototypes) with a cloaking device because Sokar hadn't finished experimenting with the technology yet.

@@Not-Ap I suppose it's also possible those prototypes are the ones that got a exploding star to the face.

Wait that was Jason... seriously?

That was not Jason Statham that played as Heru'ur. It was Douglas Arthurs.

I don't think that's the case, it's not implied the mines can penetrate goa'uld shields. Also, more than likely Apophis and Heru'ur didn't have their shields up, as a sign of non-agression meeting. If you want to meet and negotiate, why would you come with your shields up? It will be a red flag for whoever you came to meet with.

Seeing as we never see a cloaked Ha’tak again I believe the cloak was made by Sokar and Apophis (having taken over his forces) used all the ships with them here but didn’t know how to make more

That was the Tok'ra spy who planted the beacon that drew the mine to Apophis' ship.

It matters not what his scheme was! Only that he has one!

Anubis was when the series got a bit excessive with the power escalation, because the dude had the weakest motives of everyone thanks to not having a normal body and was too capable to the point of making some of his loses unbelievable at times.

@@InfernosReaper The writers made a mistake of making him in destructible

These words is taken from the trancripts to Stargate SG-1 episode Serpent's Venom

so ?

@@pailletesaliaslachialeused3895 Its nice to see actors pop up again in different roles. Like Seth also playing Daniels Father in flashbacks.

True he even managed to kill most of the main cast himself however briefly it turned out to be with the Nox bringing them back to life.

Eric TK "There's only one God maam, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't dress like that."

Yep! -- All hail Thor, Zeus, and the flying spaghetti monster! :) :)

Indeed