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The First Take crew debate if Stephen Curry or Magic Johnson has had the bigger impact on the NBA.
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@mabantafranco
@mabantafranco 10 месяцев назад
I'm the biggest Steph fan in the world (and a Warriors fan for three decades now) but his 4 rings, 6 finals and 2 MVPs can't be put next to Magic's 5 rings, 9 finals and 3 MVPs. You can argue that Steph changed the game forever, but to be fair, the Showtime Lakers did too. Magic is still unequivocally the greatest point guard of all time, but Steph does have another 4-5 seasons left in him so fingers crossed he surpasses!
@user-dc7um4pr3f
@user-dc7um4pr3f 10 месяцев назад
It's the Finals MVPs too. Magic with 3 and his first as a rookie. Steph just now got one in his early to mid 30s.
@jamessmith7909
@jamessmith7909 10 месяцев назад
FACTS!
@bobt9705
@bobt9705 10 месяцев назад
​@@user-dc7um4pr3fThe OP mentioned the MVPs as well.
@giannisakoumpo
@giannisakoumpo 10 месяцев назад
A smart warriors fan???
@THEREALMOEMONEY
@THEREALMOEMONEY 10 месяцев назад
Magic had Kareem who is considered a goat let’s be real
@bhuvneshkhare6375
@bhuvneshkhare6375 10 месяцев назад
This has to be the most civil debate ever on first take where they kinda agreed with each other and just added valid points to other’s arguments
@EdwardGGaming
@EdwardGGaming 10 месяцев назад
Magic - Showtime Steph - Three point revolution Magic saved the NBA alongside with Larry, but Steph changed the entire basketball perspective worldwide
@anonymouslyopinionated656
@anonymouslyopinionated656 23 дня назад
tell me you're under 25...
@mjprelic
@mjprelic 10 месяцев назад
Magic because he saved the NBA. Him and Bird
@xavierb9061
@xavierb9061 10 месяцев назад
Not true without him bird might become white jordan
@ajphelps16
@ajphelps16 10 месяцев назад
Steph changed basketball though and how the game itself is played now
@mjprelic
@mjprelic 10 месяцев назад
@@ajphelps16 so did Magic. Magic the first player who actually played 5 positions. And changing the game to a worse product isn't much. The game changes every generation. Jordan changed the game, took it away from the bigs and made it more a wing game. I prefer that style than people jacking up 3s. That's boring to me
@mjprelic
@mjprelic 10 месяцев назад
@@xavierb9061 with no ups
@ajphelps16
@ajphelps16 10 месяцев назад
@@mjprelic as u prefer that’s very subjective whether u think it’s worse or not. it’s still changed. Magic was an anomaly but he didn’t change the game of basketball he changed the NBA.
@chesterchambers9643
@chesterchambers9643 10 месяцев назад
2 points - Steph changed the NBA, but Magic (along with Larry and Michael) saved the NBA from bankruptcy. Without those 3 there would be no NBA for Steph to change. Second point, you can't coach height. Steph cannot affect the game in as many ways as Magic did. That's not fair, but it is real.
@xcwilliams7980
@xcwilliams7980 10 месяцев назад
No need to put Mike in there. He didn't save the game. He did take it to the next level tho
@radiospines
@radiospines 10 месяцев назад
You literally just repeated what's in the video
@ridaelmoutaoukki2047
@ridaelmoutaoukki2047 10 месяцев назад
think about it, steph at only 6'3 dominated the nba alongside lebron
@savonsanders3955
@savonsanders3955 10 месяцев назад
Steph affects the game with and without the ball in his hands lmao 🤣
@westside8514
@westside8514 10 месяцев назад
MAGIC AND BIRD , NOT MIKE
@ocityentertainmentlive5185
@ocityentertainmentlive5185 10 месяцев назад
Before Magic noone 6'4 ot above was allowed to bring the ball in the front court. He revolutionized the way teams wanted a big Guard or playmaker to start the offense. Penny Hardaway, and even LeBron is a mirror of Magic. Without Magic, LeBron would be Karl Malone who shoots 3's. So Magic changed the game by allowing big men to control the basketball like a smaller Guard!
@Mytowerisaneiffel
@Mytowerisaneiffel 10 месяцев назад
That’s just not true at all. Plenty of tall players would bring it up the court long before Magic. Magic was just the first to be a starting point guard. I can see The Iceman right now running the break long before Magic was.
@marcuscarter-segers6144
@marcuscarter-segers6144 9 месяцев назад
Nah there was guys like the big O but magic was the first superstar point forward. He was a great entertainer but he was basically a SF at the 1 who was actually a pure point guard.
@nihongochopsocky808
@nihongochopsocky808 9 месяцев назад
Let's not forget Pippen.Pippen was a more athletic Magic.
@seanswinton6242
@seanswinton6242 9 месяцев назад
​@@marcuscarter-segers6144I'll say Magic Johnson made passing the basketball cool and popular. He redefined the guard position at his size. Steph did too. Steph makes mere mortals of regular height believe they could reach the NBA.
@JayVenom
@JayVenom 10 месяцев назад
Steph is great, revolutionized the game. Changed the game. Then..his name is Magic. People forget his name is Earvin. He and Bird saved an entire league. That’s IMPACT.
@user-iam222ohyeah
@user-iam222ohyeah 10 месяцев назад
no, that's marketing
@dee-5297
@dee-5297 10 месяцев назад
That's all it's about. When you go to the past, they wanna bring up Larry Bird because they're extinct today. That's the 80s American Europeans don't evolve, so what do the media do? Try to take us to the past. Nobody wants to play like Magic Johnson. Nobody wants to watch Michael Jordan play John Stockton, that's garbage evolve.
@miguellafortune
@miguellafortune 10 месяцев назад
Magic and Bird literally saved the NBA…no magic…NBA is not where it is today…meaning there’s a chance we wouldn’t even have Steph
@Realm35
@Realm35 10 месяцев назад
They changed the NBA. Steph changed Basketball
@skineyemin4276
@skineyemin4276 10 месяцев назад
Well, Dr. J was the first to wake up the NBA, then.., Magic and Bird.
@giannisakoumpo
@giannisakoumpo 10 месяцев назад
Or bron
@epvendetta
@epvendetta 10 месяцев назад
​@@skineyemin4276ya.... Dr J had everyone's imagination for sure.
@epvendetta
@epvendetta 10 месяцев назад
No NBA, no Dell, no Steph.
@fantangosheep
@fantangosheep 10 месяцев назад
Can tell nothing is happening in sports at the moment Steph made one comment and this same conversation is being had everywhere for a whole week
@kghd2647
@kghd2647 10 месяцев назад
Ong
@zellodavis8453
@zellodavis8453 10 месяцев назад
Steph changed how the game is played at every level. As soon as the kids are strong enough to shoot, they learn to play the game the way that Steph has popularized it now. I know some people hate this but it’s true.
@BourneKnight
@BourneKnight 10 месяцев назад
I feel as though the splash bros as a unit changed the game, not just curry.
@thedragon1363
@thedragon1363 10 месяцев назад
Steph changed how it has been played on every level and magic change how the game is watched on every level
@BourneKnight
@BourneKnight 10 месяцев назад
@@thedragon1363 No he didn’t. The Warriors offense changed the style of play, credit to Mark Jackson.
@ctd4sure
@ctd4sure 10 месяцев назад
@@BourneKnight I love Klay but there’s levels to this. A catch and shoot player is far from what Steph is. Y’all need to go have a lecture or 2 hour film session on the kinda shots this brother takes and makes consistently at his height. Klay is another Reggie Miller at 6’7” which ain’t bad but pls, they are at different levels offensively
@thedragon1363
@thedragon1363 10 месяцев назад
@@BourneKnight you mean the offense built around curry? With same logic its not magic it's the coach n the rest of the Lakers that impacted the game
@sean24833
@sean24833 10 месяцев назад
Magic saved the game of the basketball
@jrbarajas4436
@jrbarajas4436 10 месяцев назад
Shut up and get off your knees he made the game boring. Chuckin up 3’s from half court like nothing. Yes it takes skill but NBA WAS FUN when it was aggressive and defensive
@Irvin2500
@Irvin2500 10 месяцев назад
😂😂😂
@KadeForever
@KadeForever 10 месяцев назад
@@Irvin2500you laughing but him and Bird actually brought the NBA back
@sean24833
@sean24833 10 месяцев назад
@@KadeForever magic and bird saved basketball that's documented literally
@brucescott4261
@brucescott4261 10 месяцев назад
​@@sean24833 ...Absolutely!!!
@Jinz3
@Jinz3 10 месяцев назад
The one who's not called by his real name yet everybody still knows who we're talking about. The greatest PG ever.
@sardorrakhmanov252
@sardorrakhmanov252 10 месяцев назад
I see what you did there 😂
@loo0oop
@loo0oop 9 месяцев назад
Magic
@souljaboi81
@souljaboi81 10 месяцев назад
Steph is my all time greatest pg, but i always wondered how much social media and recency bias affected my decision.
@SosaA11
@SosaA11 10 месяцев назад
Magic has become underrated lmao that’s nuts
@jqa16
@jqa16 10 месяцев назад
No defense can't shoot ofc kids don't like him.
@joeymanny
@joeymanny 10 месяцев назад
​@@jqa16magic cant shoot? says who?
@davidjames6036
@davidjames6036 10 месяцев назад
@@jqa16 lol curry is tiny with awful defense😂😂, magic is way better
@Lean12265
@Lean12265 9 месяцев назад
​@@davidjames6036Curry cooked Ben Simmons,he will also cook magic
@JudgementDayisBetter
@JudgementDayisBetter 9 месяцев назад
Overrated and a horrible father he should be in jail
@DB-rp4im
@DB-rp4im 10 месяцев назад
No one from this era is better than those guys.....
@kervensjnpaul7796
@kervensjnpaul7796 10 месяцев назад
Magic definitely had the biggest impact in the league. Alongside Bird to help it be as marketable as it is. Steph’s impact is on the whole sport of basketball
@jessicagalvan3358
@jessicagalvan3358 10 месяцев назад
That part steph change it across the world then Asians didn’t know magic they wanted be like Mike not magic then after Mike curry dog
@datsapaddlin
@datsapaddlin 10 месяцев назад
@@jessicagalvan3358 Magic and Bird are the reason they started to have games played live and not on tape delay and got the money for the league to showcase MJ. They saved the declining league for everyone else to have a platform.
@dee-5297
@dee-5297 10 месяцев назад
Aint nobody trying to play like Magic Johnson. Aint nobody trying to be like those dudes in the past. Today's basketball is way better. Nobody wanna watch Magic Johnson, kissing Isaiah. Thomas. Nobody wanna watch Michael Jordan versus John Stockton. We want to see dominating israelites and 2 overseas Europeans. American Europeans are extinct today. That's why basketball is beautiful. And they don't evolve, so you go back to the 80s and talk about Larry Bird with them
@alexgoins6924
@alexgoins6924 9 месяцев назад
​@@dee-5297bro, the game has changed for the worse. Players don't know how to run a proper fast break, no mid range jumpers, flopping and foul baiting, stars teaming up for the sole purpose of ring counts, lacking the basic fundamentals, etc. Sorry but the style of basketball being played today is garbage.
@LoPoBunny
@LoPoBunny 10 месяцев назад
The thing is, Magic's charisma on and off the court is really unmatched to this day.
@JudgementDayisBetter
@JudgementDayisBetter 9 месяцев назад
He’s a horrible father he should be in jail for child abuse on his son
@nellyville69
@nellyville69 10 месяцев назад
Stephen curry is one if not the top god giving talented athlete ever but Earvin magic Johnson was a winner his energy and aura was contagious 💯.
@leontteilc9527
@leontteilc9527 10 месяцев назад
That fast break post up highlight @1:18 is wild! 😂 😂 😂
@UFACIL
@UFACIL 10 месяцев назад
Magic had a bigger impact. There's a chance there wouldn't even be a league for Curry to play in without him.
@xavierb9061
@xavierb9061 10 месяцев назад
Not true len bias...could have been better jordan...always some 1 else
@jakeadams7183
@jakeadams7183 10 месяцев назад
A chance but we don’t know that, steph curry changed how the game is played. Teams get to emulate that style of play. Kids literally fill gyms to see the guy shoot the ball.
@lloydbazar
@lloydbazar 10 месяцев назад
Steph just opened up the flood gates of NBA's future, now because of him, short guys are inspired that they can be at the top too. That's a whole lot of demographics opened up by step. I don't have to be a physical marvel now to make it. That's a different level of Impact rather than just hypothetically saying there wouldn't be a steph coz of magic.
@CalebWilliams2030
@CalebWilliams2030 10 месяцев назад
They both changed the game in different eras. Steph sits in chairs and drains shots from 40 ft. He revolutionized the 3pt shot.
@LordoftheTHOTs
@LordoftheTHOTs 10 месяцев назад
We’re going to pretend that jordan was drafted 4 years after magic.
@ROB_AGT
@ROB_AGT 10 месяцев назад
They both impacted the NBA in great ways. Magic Johnson & Larry Bird saved the NBA from pretty much possibly going out of business. Magic brought showtime to the nba that led to fans coming back to watch some nba. Even people who didn’t watch basketball. As I typed all this perk & swagoo are literally saying what I’m typing out 2 seconds later is actually scary
@NovaVsDon
@NovaVsDon 10 месяцев назад
The Lakers with magic is showtime. Curry by himself is showtime basketball. Curry made a lot of people that didn’t watch basketball start watching to. Curry is more fun to watch, and because he’s so short makes it even more impressive.
@triodesrbetter
@triodesrbetter 10 месяцев назад
Even as a Bay Area native, gotta say Magic. Between Magic and Bird, it's still mostly Magic, but without these two, the world wouldn't be the same.
@blogan3845
@blogan3845 10 месяцев назад
I think Magic was a true legend. I think the same is true of Steph. Everybody always brings up Stephen lack of height as a negative, but I honestly think it only adds to Steph's greatness. Consider for a second that he has won 4 rings in the Lebron James era and that he may be the greatest NBA player ever under 6'5
@Hasani751
@Hasani751 10 месяцев назад
Magic and Bird saved the NBA…if it weren’t for them the country wouldn’t have been tuned into basketball. Magic no debate.
@rcruz-zu4sm
@rcruz-zu4sm 10 месяцев назад
They would have been another race war to fuel the nba
@CalebWilliams2030
@CalebWilliams2030 10 месяцев назад
Best to see yet is how players like Wemby and Scoot will impact the league in the next 5-10 yrs.
@theinktician
@theinktician 10 месяцев назад
But thats 2 players impact vs 1
@PWCDN
@PWCDN 6 месяцев назад
@@CalebWilliams2030Jokic is doing the most now and nobody talks about it. Talk about marketing
@PrazanExpat
@PrazanExpat 10 месяцев назад
What would Magic have been without Kareem, Worthy, and Scott? Take a look at Game 6 of the 1980 Finals for a clue, in which he played without Kareem, Worthy, or Scott: 42 points, 15 boards, 7 assists, 3 steals. This is not to detract from Steph at all, who remains the best shooter all time, no question.
@rubianezekeil6186
@rubianezekeil6186 10 месяцев назад
Stephen A acting like Stephen Curry dont have a pieces around him like the Showtime lakers. If Curry dont have klay and draymond what would be the outcome of his career?
@dee-5297
@dee-5297 10 месяцев назад
FACTS......
@dee-5297
@dee-5297 10 месяцев назад
​@@rubianezekeil6186Stuff of scorn machine, though the problem with you guys in the past is you act like you could see the past, but you can't see today. You can tell us about Larry Bird, but there's no larry bird today. You can tell us about Magic Johnson who caught AIDS. You all need to shut up and stop following the media and come back to 2023. Where's dominating israelites? There's no American Europeans today, so you have to go back there. And talk about Magic Johnson and Larry Bird with people that don't evolve.
@JudgementDayisBetter
@JudgementDayisBetter 9 месяцев назад
Overrated player and horrible father
@KadeForever
@KadeForever 10 месяцев назад
They both impacted the game in different ways, and their playstyles are completely different. Magic is the the best *pure* point guard, and Curry is the best *combo* guard of all time.
@SamuelJ888
@SamuelJ888 10 месяцев назад
as a Curry fan, I can agree with that
@nachos92392
@nachos92392 10 месяцев назад
curry impacted the game for the worst, now many games are hard to watch , its just a 3 point shooting context for 48 min
@KadeForever
@KadeForever 10 месяцев назад
@@nachos92392 I mean what did you expect? As time goes on things change. Obviously mid range and paint play wasn’t gonna last forever and eventually fade out.
@TOKYO9AIN
@TOKYO9AIN 10 месяцев назад
@@nachos92392nobody wanna watch centers back down for 48 mins . Keep that in the 80s
@raheemwilson894
@raheemwilson894 10 месяцев назад
Steph is a PG, stop the combo guard nonsense
@wavefacekillah
@wavefacekillah 10 месяцев назад
If magic played in this era at his position more apposing than curry cause of his height and size and curry is on 6,3 people would still say magic the best point guard
@igm1201
@igm1201 10 месяцев назад
Dude - to be a point guard in this era you need consistent outside shooting and at least a 38% at 3 point shooting. I don’t know how Magic’s shooting is but we have Ben Simmons who is at almost 6’10” and the dude is almost out of the NBA - Simmons was an all star and all defensive team. But the dude can’t shoot
@bailey5234
@bailey5234 10 месяцев назад
iN tHiS eRa
@LordoftheTHOTs
@LordoftheTHOTs 10 месяцев назад
I’m a professional athlete(idgaf if you believe me or not). Steph is 6’5, he’s just mad skinny. And that is why he is as good as he is. Because he is tall.
@dee-5297
@dee-5297 10 месяцев назад
Why do you keep trying to compare Stiff black men in the past to these athletic brothers. Today, nobody wants to watch Magic Johnson and Larry Bird. Only American Europeans and brain wash negroes we in 2023. You're talking about 80s basketball because a white man played. You can't play today, it's the best it's ever been. And all the media try to do is take us back to the past. Because American Europeans don't evolve.....TODAYS BASKETBALL IS WAYYYYYY BETTER
@arthurwright255
@arthurwright255 10 месяцев назад
I have heard of both of these players and both are really good.
@zoradelaney9412
@zoradelaney9412 10 месяцев назад
Tough one, but I'll go with Magic. Without Magic (along with Bird), there wouldn't have been an NBA **in the first place** for Steph to play in because the league was near bankruptcy....
@marilyncatterall402
@marilyncatterall402 10 месяцев назад
Steph has changed the way many teams play in the NBA, but Magic is one of the main reasons that the NBA is watched and followed by a worldwide audience of over a billion. Without Magic, Bird and Jordan, the NBA is watched by 5 million people in the USA.
@zepcrazyfre
@zepcrazyfre 10 месяцев назад
It’s just not easy for me to choose between Curry and Magic…they are both Living Legends;
@kabelotshita4510
@kabelotshita4510 10 месяцев назад
The 3 point shot is spectacular when Steph does it, anyone else it doesn’t hold the same weight, the change that has come with teams mandating 3 point shooters admit it or not has its negative and you might disagree but has kinda taken away some of the spectacular things some players in the Game are incredible at, I feel that robs us of an opportunity to see people do amazing things in the game, the 3 point shot is only valued cause it accumulates to a wealth of points. The game is not as entertaining as it could be
@ChrisSullins
@ChrisSullins 10 месяцев назад
Both had the impact. Steph with shooting and Magic with the performance. Nowadays today's players acting like Divas and getting injured all the time.
@neozeroluminatti7619
@neozeroluminatti7619 10 месяцев назад
The rivalry between Magic and Bird. Magic saved the NBA from its darkest age in 1979
@rightybricks1582
@rightybricks1582 10 месяцев назад
Stephen is a killer at 6'2". He has carried his team offensively multiple times because of his arsenal. Magic is mainly a facilitator and relied a lot on his teammates to score. Now imagine if Curry was 6'9. He would murder the NBA! Pop! Pop!
@petep5207
@petep5207 9 месяцев назад
Steph Curry...and it's no contest. Not even close. He changed the entire game. On BOTH ends of the ball. Magic changed a position. CURRY CHANGED AN ENTIRE SPORT.
@SPRVLN27
@SPRVLN27 10 месяцев назад
It's definitely Magic. Sure, Steph shot some threes, but you may not even be watching the NBA on TV if it weren't for Bird and Magic.
@Jp-et3zm
@Jp-et3zm 10 месяцев назад
Listen to the hate though “sure he shot some 3s” 😂😂 y’all just can’t help it 🤦🏾‍♂️
@SPRVLN27
@SPRVLN27 10 месяцев назад
@@Jp-et3zm because there's a major difference in changing how many three pointers players take versus fixing an entire sport's reputation and making it mainstream.
@ctd4sure
@ctd4sure 10 месяцев назад
@@SPRVLN27 The issue is Magic is special but it wasn't just him. It was a 50 - 50 thing along along with Bird. And he was surrounded by top 30 players so his passing was rewarded. Steph Curry is a weapon on his own that you need at least 2 people to contain. The impact on players surrounding him is something else. Look at the spacing when Steph is on the court on any team vs other players
@SPRVLN27
@SPRVLN27 10 месяцев назад
@ctd4sure I acknowledged Bird in the original comment as well. I honestly think Bird was a better overall player than Magic. And yes, I agree that Magic exclusively played with HOFers most of his career. But the thing is, so did Steph. How many MVPs honestly ever got to play with 2 other Final's MVPs, another regular season MVP, DPOY, Coach of the Year, and anywhere between 4 to 6 current or former all-stars on the team every season. And sure, you may need two people to guard Steph sometimes, but at the same time you essentially need two people to guard Steph's man on defense. Magic wasn't a great defender but he wasn't a complete liability on defense like Steph either.
@ctd4sure
@ctd4sure 10 месяцев назад
@@SPRVLN27 Now let me ask you this. Magic is great but honest answer; Do you think the Lakers wouldn't win rings if they had Jason Kidd/Chris Paul/Steve Nash? And will GSW win anything without someone like Curry?
@xanxus8272
@xanxus8272 10 месяцев назад
It's more impressive what Curry was able to do at 6,2 than what Magic was able to do at 6,9. Nonetheless Magic is the best old school PG and Steph is the best new school PG.
@Guerrillachop
@Guerrillachop 9 месяцев назад
6 2 guys play like curry how many 6 9 pgs u see averaging triple doubles, handling the ball, and is versatile and can play all 5 positions that's more impressive to me then someone that just comes off screens and shoot 3s
@Guerrillachop
@Guerrillachop 9 месяцев назад
6 2 guys play like curry how many 6 9 pgs u see averaging triple doubles, handling the ball, and is versatile and can play all 5 positions that's more impressive to me then someone that just comes off screens and shoot 3s
@builttoughtv9181
@builttoughtv9181 10 месяцев назад
Solid take perk 😎
@landofthedreadheads8901
@landofthedreadheads8901 10 месяцев назад
1980 Gm 6 20 year old rookie nuff said, my favorite NBA player all time and greatest pg of all time
@abiolaolayinka2023
@abiolaolayinka2023 10 месяцев назад
Steph had the bigger impact to me. As much as Magic and Larry saved the league. I started watching basketball because I saw a clip of the smallest guy on the court taking down giants wirh his scoring and all-round heliocentric gravity. He made (shorter) people believe they could 'Be like Curry'. You can't coach Magic's height, you can't coach is flair but maybe, just maybe you can Be like Wardell.
@Mike1122.
@Mike1122. 10 месяцев назад
Curry isn’t short, he’s 6’3.
@datsapaddlin
@datsapaddlin 10 месяцев назад
You may not know this but everyone wanted to be like Magic or Bird in the 80s. It’s just because Steph is playing rn people wanna be like him and other active players. Not everyone can be like Steph or Magic though.
@SouthJerzVillains
@SouthJerzVillains 10 месяцев назад
@@Mike1122.that’s short in basketball lol
@mr.e347
@mr.e347 10 месяцев назад
Would Kobe want to play for LA if it wasnt for Magic and the huge showtime era period?
@Dabherenthere
@Dabherenthere 10 месяцев назад
There’s no way Shaq, Kobe and now Lebron would’ve played for LA if not for Magic
@albertlucero1980
@albertlucero1980 10 месяцев назад
Exactly 💯
@epicwolf
@epicwolf 10 месяцев назад
Slow sports day. We all know Jordan changed the marketing ability of the NBA for sure with the shoes and commercials. Before Magic and Bird the NBA was in taped delay. I believe its more Jerry Buss who changed the NBA more than Magic. Steph doesnt change much. Sure more players shoot more threes but thats about it.
@JoeNeely
@JoeNeely 10 месяцев назад
Precisely
@dextercorner3942
@dextercorner3942 10 месяцев назад
The way i see it Magic was a forward playing PG and could push the ball up court with his size that was never done in the NBA but impact steph all the way cause if you notic everybody shooting 3's like crazy i remember back in the day most team would attempt at least 15 the most as a whole team but now you can have one guy take 15 by himself for the whole game
@BourneKnight
@BourneKnight 10 месяцев назад
Lol, Magic literally saved the NBA from bankruptcy. I have ppl in Africa who literally idolized the man. He has a reach far beyond basketball.
@oluwalosemahmud2304
@oluwalosemahmud2304 10 месяцев назад
I’m one of them 😁🙌🏼
@juan-josegarza7039
@juan-josegarza7039 10 месяцев назад
This is hard for two reasons. Magic saved basketball. Steph changed how people play, as AI, MJ, Dr. J, and Wilt did.
@upallnite79
@upallnite79 8 месяцев назад
Disagree with SA's point, Steph definitely will go down as probably #2 pg of all time. He changed the game in This Era (shooting expertise), never seen anything like him. Magic just trumps Curry in too many areas. The way guards dribble these days, refs back in the day would call you for all types of violations. Tougher league back then. Props to Mr Curry doing his best to BE the BEST...
@kingjayofficial10
@kingjayofficial10 10 месяцев назад
I am a big fan of Basketball (NBA) because of Steph Curry. I never knew NBA existed before.
@warking3523
@warking3523 10 месяцев назад
I’m going with Steph on this one 🙌🏿
@patbenz4327
@patbenz4327 10 месяцев назад
Because you're 20.
@ginuwinereynolds7291
@ginuwinereynolds7291 10 месяцев назад
No he hasn't
@warking3523
@warking3523 10 месяцев назад
@@patbenz4327 I’m 37 and I’m still going with Steph. Be realistic the game and players have evolved; especially from a athletic standpoint.
@patbenz4327
@patbenz4327 10 месяцев назад
@@warking3523Magic turned the game into an art from. Basketball became fun to watch and the NBA increased its fanbase worldwide. He's the reason we've had players like Penny Hardaway, Lebron, Grant Hill, Luka, etc.. Magic is a 3x finals MVP, 9x 1st All-NBA Team, 3x MVP. The only thing steph does better is shooting.
@JimBrave-ri1oc
@JimBrave-ri1oc 10 месяцев назад
Well they had to make Rules Against Isiah. So Isiah is the best PG ever. Isiah was the one that sort of started all that 90's Tough Guy Body Builder Basketball that had the highest Ratings all time.
@partynextosodak
@partynextosodak 10 месяцев назад
i will never forget that 24-0 start to the 2015-2016 season , nobody won an mvp like steph
@user-mc4xg8hf4q
@user-mc4xg8hf4q 10 месяцев назад
Tha same year they lost in the finals?😊 Mj da 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐
@Jdp_1597
@Jdp_1597 10 месяцев назад
Back then nobody could do what Magic did nowadays there are multiple ppl that can do what Curry can do
@christopherbrown5269
@christopherbrown5269 10 месяцев назад
🤡🤡🤡
@raf-09
@raf-09 10 месяцев назад
Steph is literally the biggest views draw in the NBA, and has been for the last almost 10 years, that’s insane
@tylerwest3161
@tylerwest3161 10 месяцев назад
Can’t compare views different times we don’t know how many views would get if magic had social media
@joeymanny
@joeymanny 10 месяцев назад
thats why magic is more impact, bevause theres no social media back then and put nba spotlight, steph will be just isaih thomas bedide magic
@kennethsmith6367
@kennethsmith6367 10 месяцев назад
Steph not the biggest views. That LeBron James, stop lying!
@willjohnwick6911
@willjohnwick6911 10 месяцев назад
@@kennethsmith6367you stop lying curry literally been the most viewed in nba the last 8 years. Since 2015 26 games have been played with 14 million views curry played in all 26 games. Curry also gets the most views on all nba social media sites 🤔 tell me again how is it lebron 🤡
@nachos92392
@nachos92392 10 месяцев назад
curry ruined the nba with everyone jacking up 3's
@JimBrave-ri1oc
@JimBrave-ri1oc 10 месяцев назад
Stern and Silver helped a lot with that wanting that to happen. they lowered the rims 1 inch and loosened them from 300psi to 30psi which helps shooters a lot.
@badkid_xyz
@badkid_xyz 10 месяцев назад
The game is bigger today and Steph is at the helm of changing the game. Therefore his impact is BIGGER.
@SSJRome
@SSJRome 10 месяцев назад
There’s no wrong answer they both paved the way for the nba we know and love today
@xcwilliams7980
@xcwilliams7980 10 месяцев назад
Nah....
@nachos92392
@nachos92392 10 месяцев назад
curry didnt do anything, nba was doing just fine when he came into the league
@SSJRome
@SSJRome 10 месяцев назад
@@nachos92392 troll
@nachos92392
@nachos92392 10 месяцев назад
@@SSJRome he actually made it worst , now nba is 48 minute 3 point contest 🤦 🤦‍♂
@SSJRome
@SSJRome 10 месяцев назад
@@nachos92392 that’s not on steph
@Arazorblade
@Arazorblade 10 месяцев назад
The explanation is simple. Magic saved NBA but Curry inspired every normal human being who is not a god gifted giant. If you ask a normal human who he wants to be, they will mention Curry. Magic is all about show , Curry is about perseverance, hard work , reps and endless hours in Gym and a belief that you can be in the conversation of the best with sheer hard work and dedication.
@user-cs1pi8zg1n
@user-cs1pi8zg1n 10 месяцев назад
They're trying to downplay or erase every great player that played prior to the "Jordan" era. The disrespect for Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, Elgin Baylor, Oscar Robertson, Jerry West, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Dr. J, Moses Malone, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Isiah Thomas, and Hakeem Olajuwon is INSANE!!! David Stern partnered with the media and made the air Jordan mythology a thing and to Mike's credit he performed eloquently. They spent yrs trying to recreate that(Grant Hill, Penny Hardaway, Harold Miner, Kobe Bryant,Vince Carter etc...) But it's like catching lightning in a bottle. Now every past great player can be replaced or disguarded except for MJ. Now it'll take a "European" player to knock Mike off of that mythical post. Other than that everyone else is fair game. Look at how the best player of this century so far has been treated(Lebron James) because he wasn't what the media and powers that be wanted him to be. Just to be clear there's no way I'm choosing Steph Curry over Magic Johnson unless it's a 3point shooting contest and that's it.
@loslakers530
@loslakers530 10 месяцев назад
Finally! No MJ vs Bron debate! Something different haha
@cameronfowler2670
@cameronfowler2670 10 месяцев назад
Magic invented passing for championships and he made being a giant guard cool. It’s easily Magic. 😊
@joels5150
@joels5150 9 месяцев назад
Curry has definied what a good shot is. Regardless of height, strength or size. Magic was an anomaly, most NBA players couldn’t replicate his attributes, much less make the league with that ability.
@rodneyroyston8427
@rodneyroyston8427 10 месяцев назад
This is impact: KG, Dirk, Giannis, and bigs of their ilk...we have ballhandling 4s and 5s in the game now because of Magic! He showed that at 6'9, you don't HAVE TO be stuck in the paint to be productive. Because of Magic and his ability to handle the ball, he impacted the game by basically being the creator of "perimeter bigs". Not suggesting he shot the ball well. I'm suggesting that bigs are now rarely in the paint these days because Magic made it cool to do more than just post up. That is an impact that fails to ever be brought up. And that impact changed the game way more than the need for more 3s. You can't even name 3 allstar level bigs in the league who live in the paint LOL. They're all on the perimeter, wanting to shoot, wanting to facilitate, wanting to showcase handles...the answer is Magic and it's not even close.
@AntiiSociial
@AntiiSociial 10 месяцев назад
They wanna shoot and showcase handles because of curry not magic
@rodneyroyston8427
@rodneyroyston8427 10 месяцев назад
@@AntiiSociial They wouldn't have a chance to ever do so if we never saw a 6'9 Magic working mainly outside of the paint. That's what I am saying. By him running point at that size, it opened the door for bigs to handle the rock and do everything else that guards do outside of the paint. They'd still be stuck in the paint as a traditional big if Magic never played Point Guard.
@AntiiSociial
@AntiiSociial 10 месяцев назад
@@rodneyroyston8427 yeah but that in my opinion that doesn't have more impact than what curry has done. Most people are under 6 ft and in basketball curry is considered small, so to me that he would be more relatable and Impactful to majority of people. We got people shooting from 30 plus feet, and they will eventually add a 4 pt shot and it's gonna be because of curry
@tonysfitness4987
@tonysfitness4987 9 месяцев назад
If Curry wouldn't have broken the 3 point scoring record, we wouldn't be having this conversation. And for Curry to come out and say that he is better the Magic J....He needs to think about that a little more....100% Magic J. And Breaking the 3 point scoring record surely doesn't make him better than any other Point Guard (Kendrick) The Job of a point guard is not to break records scoring, the Job of the point guard is to run down the court and Assist his teammates in scoring....
@Progessive_G
@Progessive_G 10 месяцев назад
2:41 LOL 😂
@camping2399
@camping2399 10 месяцев назад
Magic hands down. This isn’t even a debate it’s almost disrespectful to say any player has had a bigger impact than Magic. College, Rookie Year, Him & Larry’s Rivalry, Putting the NBA back on the Map, Biggest Contract by a rookie, 5 Championships, 9 appearances, MVP, Greatest Passer Ever, The Greatest Leader Ever, Olympic Gold Medalist, HIV Spokesman, Greatest athlete/businessman and hands down the Greatest Smile 😊
@MaverickIceman
@MaverickIceman 10 месяцев назад
The fact that they even have to talk about this is crazy. Without Bird and Magic, there would be no NBA today.
@EshockT
@EshockT 10 месяцев назад
Wow, I agreed with Perk just now. First time for everything.
@arshdeepk5851
@arshdeepk5851 10 месяцев назад
Steph all day, man is the NBA nowadays
@MyNameIsTwan
@MyNameIsTwan 10 месяцев назад
LMFAO, did Perk just say Magic and Bird saved the game 💀💀💀....MF that was Mike, Kobe and LeBron and then Steph
@MrWeah2003
@MrWeah2003 10 месяцев назад
Magic. He also does what a PG is supposed to do, not only spam 3s.
@PWCDN
@PWCDN 6 месяцев назад
Curry is a combo guard, not a PG. So if we're talking strictly PG, Curry is not it.
@onaths7793
@onaths7793 10 месяцев назад
Everytime Perk talks and the topic is about the Warriors… you already know his side without him talking.
@RICHHSZN
@RICHHSZN 10 месяцев назад
Now these point guards think they have to shoot before they passed the ball smh CURRY DID THAT PG IS A FLOOR GENERAL CAN BE GOOD AT SHOOTING BUT PASS THE BALL AND MAKING PLAYS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ON THE COURT
@razakhassan1103
@razakhassan1103 10 месяцев назад
Literally steph made me love basketball as a whole 😊
@ChiTownMade
@ChiTownMade 10 месяцев назад
Magic Is the better point guard all time. However on the court steph is more Influential
@randellllarena7525
@randellllarena7525 10 месяцев назад
Magic, without him, for one, he saved the NBA along with Bird. Second, he revolutionized the PG position which created point forwards like Pippen, Grant Hill and especially Lebron. Without Magic, we wouldn't be seeing this NBA today.
@bdotvisualz7461
@bdotvisualz7461 10 месяцев назад
NOTICE how y'all gotta say BIRD'S name with Magic.......CURRY CHANGED THE GAME FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@kennethsmith6367
@kennethsmith6367 10 месяцев назад
@@bdotvisualz7461Bird’s name comes up because the rivalry between those two players pulled the NBA out of bankruptcy. By the way Bird is also somehow becoming underrated.
@alexgoins6924
@alexgoins6924 9 месяцев назад
​@@bdotvisualz7461for the worse though. Players jacking up 3s all day is difficult to watch.
@crisgallardo4239
@crisgallardo4239 10 месяцев назад
The biggest impact on the league was M.J crying to commissioner Stern & the addition of the flagrant foul rule, now anybody can play the game when as before you had to be a real man to play basketball & that's the bottom line.
@user-zj4sl1oz4y
@user-zj4sl1oz4y 10 месяцев назад
The question is not fair. They are from different eras. While fan basis from one side is fading, the other is still growing.
@itskajeric
@itskajeric 10 месяцев назад
you can also add michael jordan into the mix. Nobody rock the bald head look back in the 60's n 70's But when mj came into the league all these nba dudes started to rock dem bald head swag💯
@LyricalMurderer1
@LyricalMurderer1 10 месяцев назад
Perk has low key been giving some good takes recently
@FinanciallyFree526
@FinanciallyFree526 10 месяцев назад
There’s really no wrong answer but I’m forever going with Stephen Curry That’s just me 🐐
@conflicc5505
@conflicc5505 10 месяцев назад
Magic got it because he's still making a big impact off the court becoming a respected businessman and just a great personality/represenative of the NBA also curry hasn't really had any backlash like magic did with the Aids thing and players not wanting to play with him...yea curry ain't been around long enough to compete with magic's impact but he's definitely on the right track
@kentcarmelruaya3229
@kentcarmelruaya3229 10 месяцев назад
finally something new
@thedragon1363
@thedragon1363 10 месяцев назад
How players play and how the game itself is played? Curry for sure but the impact to basketball as an worldwide sport it's gotta be magic he put the NBA into the light it is today.
@skeetajohnson
@skeetajohnson 10 месяцев назад
Magic is the most impactful player . Magic is what made basketball a thriving sport despite what people want to believe. He brought the entertainment factor to the the sport like no one else. T
@tbennettpurdue
@tbennettpurdue 10 месяцев назад
There is a difference between the best players and influence and changed the game/the rules/way its played & officiated.....Wilt & Kareem huge impact on these......Pistol Pete had huge impact on the game. Dr J big time! Magic/Bird saving the league. MJ elevated & commercialized it. Lebron a big that moved like MJ and put the contract power in players hands & turned into a business. Curry's shooting changed the game from bigs & 5 positions to no positions and 3pt shoot league.....these guys changed the league.....Shaq is right there too.
@DarrenStephenLimFitness
@DarrenStephenLimFitness 9 месяцев назад
When one guy made passing more sexy than scoring you already know the answer.
@Forson4
@Forson4 10 месяцев назад
Steph's the GOAT PG
@jleww8959
@jleww8959 10 месяцев назад
Not with 1 finals MVP 😂
@zacqueeentertainment7336
@zacqueeentertainment7336 9 месяцев назад
Magic Johnson along with Bird SAVED the NBA. He could dominate the game without even scoring a point. He's the greatest point guard of all time.
@ucruz3
@ucruz3 9 месяцев назад
In every kid's mind they can really be Steph,, that's impact there.
@-LiuKang
@-LiuKang 10 месяцев назад
To me Steph is amazing best shooter we ever seen in our life time so far but the position point guard that’s tuff to put him over magic idk about that 1 and ring wise magic has 5 Steph has 4 so idk man
@Vililol
@Vililol 10 месяцев назад
Can't talk impact when Magic has retired for over 20 years ago, and Steph is still playing, and arguably is in his prime and is set to have a long career. Even if he'd stop playing today, you'd need 20 years to REALLY see the impact he had on the game.
@pepingsclips7977
@pepingsclips7977 10 месяцев назад
When we say impact its the "impact" the game on how it played on how we perceive, Magic was a great player but he only save the game together with Larry thats less impact
@altonweaver7757
@altonweaver7757 10 месяцев назад
I’m not talking favorites here. They changed the rules because of Curry. Magic had the biggest change via NBA “style” and “positionless” basketball.
@SportNut1
@SportNut1 10 месяцев назад
Perk, just remember this. You won't be able to make the league and sit on this chair today if you are a few years younger because of what Curry did to the game. And I have to change my game too just to keep playing pickup. There's no shame in admitting Steph's greatness
@jonathanwatson1908
@jonathanwatson1908 10 месяцев назад
I agree with Swagu and Perk. If you have Steph as the best PG over Magic I would acknowledge that as a legit argument. But Magic Johnson gave guys like Steph and those before him a chance by putting on a show along with Bird.
@Ramza2004
@Ramza2004 10 месяцев назад
Funny how Perk’s logic about how Magic had a bigger impact than Steph is contradictory to how he thinks Bron is better than Jordan. Tbh it’s not surprising that someone on Klutch Sports payroll will always vote for the other person in debates that involve Jordan and Steph.
@TayG_9Deuce
@TayG_9Deuce 10 месяцев назад
Why do people like to compare all the time? It diminishes some of their greatness
@johnr8309
@johnr8309 10 месяцев назад
I marveled more at Curry than I ever did Magic. Ordinarily, you pick up the guard at the top of the key. This pick Curry up a half court.
@peteriantambasacan6296
@peteriantambasacan6296 10 месяцев назад
if you Play in the 90's,00's, and half of the 10's before Golden State Wins the chips. You can see that Magic Johnson has more impact. We have a lot of Tall Guards that can Dribble and play the PG. But right now it's Steph. Especially that everyone even Center needs to have a 3 point arsenal in their game.
@chrischantnuocca3614
@chrischantnuocca3614 10 месяцев назад
I’m not buying with those medias and old folks argument. As a Millenial, I saw magic as a heavyweight fighting in welterweight. I don’t saw him as a PG. I saw him as a Center.
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