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Some people say Creativity is Problem solving

@Kaeya Alberich I mean... when you put it that way, I had to stop and think for a second, but I still don’t think it’s wrong to call any of those fields problem solvers. Arts and Sciences are in the same category after all, and it’s reflected in a lot of the fundamental things that define the subjects. I mean, just think, Creative Thinking + Analytical Thinking = both Artistic and Scientific Thinking! And both, in the end, are trying to understand & utilize the subject at hand! “What is the Higgs Boson particle and can we manipulate it or use it for something?” is a scientific problem solving question! “What are the key features I want to emphasize on my subject and how can I simplify or utilize shapes & colors to convey that?” is an artistic problem solving question!

@Kaeya Alberich oh, but it is a little frustrating I think when ppl say “you’re not a ___, you’re a problem solver!” Lol.. It’s both, so it’s fine to just say someone is an artist/programmer/designer. All of those titles are already cool and respectable imo, & the problem solving aspect should probably just be implied? idk lol

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So true I stated art properly 3 years ago and I never focused on “finding my art style” yet it’s changed so much. Basically just learn how too draw kids.

this is 100% true in my opinion. I used to love to draw in nothing but anime style but I just wasn't improving and I found myself dissatisfied with my drawings. I was doodling and goofing around to get rid of an art block and i made something more simplistic and stylized than what i normally did. it was like a switch flipped! I kept trying to draw in anime style but loved the way my new method looked and slowly bled it into my style. Art IS a journey and sometimes you have to take a back road completely out of your way to find your path to improvement

@@kyanshi preach sis.

Exactly

@@kyanshi thats cool

Its like only focusing on the icing of the cake instead of the cake itself

@@coffintears5821 Because "the cake is a lie"

But GLaDOS said there really was a cake... Jk The cake is a fake and the pie is a lie.

Because it’s mostly made up of teenagers who are in the phase of searching for a unique identity, and having a clearly defined art style is a (immature) way to express identity

Maybe they’re hoping they’ll become famous for their style. Which would make things easier since you don’t then to learn to draw different things. But that’s a handicap I think because then you can’t change your style to suit the subject.

Ive been drawing for years and honestly, idek when did the finding your artstyle thing start getting more prominent.

@@cthulha_north because on the internet people get recognized through their artstyles. Style is very important (according to many) if you want to sell your art and/or to become recognized.

@@somethingwithbungalows i thought the video said it wasnt important. so which is it?

@@cthulha_north it isn’t but many make it out to be.

I always thought it was made up to denigrate the influence of manga and anime, like "you need to find YOUR OWN style" is a putdown that you don't have to back up in any way

Exactly! Plus, in most mainstream art jobs (such as animation and game design, not freelance stuff) it's actually more important to be able to replicate other styles. This is not to say that style isn't important- it most certainly is- but rather, that it isn't needed to be an artist, much less a professional one. And another thing- one artist can have multiple styles, just as there are multiple genres of art style in general, such as anime, realism, cartoon, 3d, chibi, furry, etc. For a certain project you may want a more stylized look, while on another you may want to be more realistic... this doesn't mean that one of them is "not your style", just that you can adapt your style/have different styles to fit what you want to make. And isn't that what art is about, being able to adapt your skills to make what you want to make? On a final note, style is subjective. More cartoony doesn't mean "bad" and more realistic doesn't mean "good". There are certain principles that make a style better, generally- clean linework, understanding of color theory, etc. It's entirely possible for an experienced artist (say, Butch Hartman) to have a style that looks like complete shit while an amateur can make much better, though more limited, pieces. As long as you are able to adapt, be creative, and experiment, there's really no need to worry about finding your style.

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Thanks Toniko! Absolutely

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Perfect is dumb. 😅🤣

Imperfect is my art style it’s supposed to look unfinished like I forgot to draw the faces and forgot Line art

Exactly. There's a huge difference between actually studying artists you like than just copying them. You learn way more from one method than the other.

@Jo Jo what do you mean

@ Jo Jo You know.. some artists don’t understand what makes their art successful because they have low self esteem. I, personally, don’t rely on myself to make assumptions of my work. But, it really doesn’t matter. Why? Because most artists work hard for what they made. They spent time, and energy. Yes, some don’t know how to critique theirs properly. But that is just a matter of how people perceive what they made. For me, I hate almost everything I make. But I show pride in it because I know I spent hours on it. Maybe you should get to learn more about people who do art before you hold this against them

Mickey takes off his gloves to do dirty work. Those hands were the last thing Blue Sky Studios saw.

@scftlcve he wears them to hide the blood stains on his photorealistic hands

@scftlcve Because gloves are much nicer, softer and less abrasive than a mouse with human hands and fingernails at the time and it just stuck for many Disney characters.

Well, I understand these replies are jokes, but the reason why he wears gloves is because they were a way for his hands to stand out during dark scenes, considering that he was created in the day before color cartoons. The gloves were so iconic that they became accessories for many Disney and Non-Disney characters.

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Relax, it’s just an innocent question lol

@@DesignzRUs1 Why would you just assume I'm angry about it? I did answer it normally, I just thought it was relevant as a faulty way of thinking.

@@DesignzRUs1 they dont seem mad to me bruv

@@the_honored_one_06 in most coments that are worded that way, the OP is annoyed or angry Im not saying he is, just that is expectable

Maybe they were asking about one of those "Eureka!" moments when you realized you preferred to do certain stuff instead of the other, for example when you decided which type of lines you'd mostly use. But things like that sometimes simply come I assume... I am not an artist myself at most I do some sprites that aren't good, so i don't really know.

I will say that when I look back at some old art of mine I do see a difference and it morphing. I thought art is kinda like shin-godzilla. It's constantly adapting.

Yeah, even as a kid, I thought of art style as the artist's equivalent of handwriting - it's just naturally how they draw. So I guess every animated cartoon ever made is forgery, then?

@@ARCtheCartoonMaster basically, a lot of animation and brand design requires artist to know how to replicate an art style. If you were to try and design characters for league of legends you’d need to know how to get the same atmosphere and stylistic features they want

Gonna make that my art style! /j

Its like when theres a toy line where you can “Mix and match for CRAZYYY combinations!”

@@papasscooperiaworker3649 did you not watch the whole video?

@Mili you too

@Mili I thought the /j was a deformed bro-hoof for some reason. Like, he held his messed-up, mixed-with-something-else hoof up for a high-five (so to speak) and _was left hanging._ So instead of /)*(\ it just wound up like a misshapen version of: /)

It's beautiful

This. I feel this.

for me my progress was every peice looked difrent but the same eyes and hair all that changed was the style but now every charater i create looks like they are from the same universe but still difrent. mostly because i do lineless insted of only ballpoint pen with no flesh for the charater

i have a art style but i do the same thing lol

Sorry to interrupt you there, but these changes in 3D shows aren’t done for artistic value. Like, at all. Whenever models, lighting, textures, etc. in a 3D show change, that just means that the episode had a different animation studio working on it, nothing more. Especially French shows like Miraculous or Sonic Boom often do this as they tend to hire a bunch of studios at once. The differences are usually the most evident in details like hair textures, a thing I know for a fact both of these shows were inconsistent in, not just between seasons, but between *episodes.* This isn’t even comparable to something like Steven Universe not having model sheets so the storyboard artists could draw the characters in their own way (which the show got a lot of flak for by the way), it’s just the cold hard 3D animation process being the cold hard 3D animation process in different studios. Not to mention Jimmy Neutron and Sonic Boom are kind of… They’re not the best examples when it comes to the artistic value of 3D animation. I‘m not saying 3D animated shows look inherently worse or can’t be artsy at all, but comparing them to 2D animation in this way is comparing apples and oranges. Have you ever heard about how one of the big differences between these two art forms is that backgrounds are harder in 3D while character animation is harder in 2D? In 2D, you draw the background once, in 3D every object in the background has to be modeled, lit, rendered, etc., but at the same time a character can be modeled and rigged once and then reused a million times while in 2D, every frame of the character moving needs to be drawn. Because of this fact alone, a 3D show‘s artistic values are not going to depend on the same elements as a 2D show‘s artistic values. The „spastic weirdo“ character type commonly used in Illumination movies isn’t very impressive there because 3D makes these movements casual, but when 2D cartoon characters like Bugs Bunny or Tom and Jerry do it, there’s way more stuff going on because every frame is a drawing. Inversely, a 2D animated show that’s all about traveling to and exploring different locations is probably not going to be as much of a standout as a 3D show that fully commits to this concept (such as The Little Prince 2010).

@@rainpooper7088 Oh, I didn't know that. That said, I also think art styles change so often in CG shows simply because of the rapid pace that 3D rendering tends to grow at. TV shows have to be made as cheaply and efficiently as possible, and of course rendering is a massive bottleneck in the pipeline, so 3D artists have to keep up with the latest developments so that, hopefully, they can make the animation look better AND save time and money at the same time. Although I'm not sure why there aren't more cheap TV cartoons that use real-time rendering solutions like Eevee, Unreal, or iClone, considering that they don't seem to use a million light sources or photorealistic reflections or anything that requires the use of slow-but-photorealistic software like VRay or Renderman.

Same

idk, i definitely get a ton of PowerPuff/Dexters lab vibes from Kid Cosmic like right off the bat, but it's still got enough of it's own thing, I like it.

@@rainpooper7088 3D/CGI content can still have a conscious shift in art styles, lol. It's not just about studious and budget.

YES!!! My friend always picks on me for drawing furry like things, and i drew a skull poping out of a cat's face once. She's like "ohoh its a dinosaur!!" I said "no, its not hah, but you can see when im done!". She then went on about how it looks like a dino so it has to be, and when i explain to her that not everything i draw has to be a real thing, she said it was stupid. Its disappointing how the schools in elementary teach you that art has to mean something, and has to be made up of things that already exist (human, dog, rat, etc.), bc look where she is now, stuck in the same mindset from years ago. Its disappointing, really.

Fr line the point of school is to LEARN. But they’re always surprised when you didn’t learn stuff the year before or don’t know how to do certain things

Art has to be one of the most polluted education sectors when it comes to elitism and pretentiousness. I'm glad you found a place that actually wants to teach

Yeah exactly and I agree. I had a similar experience in my first Electrotechnology course. They asked if I knew what and how Ohms effects wattage and stuff. I told them I hadn’t done anything on the subject yet, and they got super weird about it asking why I didn’t know already as if I should’ve learnt about it before, when my whole purpose to be there was to learn about it lol. It’s like a catch22: “You should know about it before I teach you about it” smh

There are lots of good and open minded art schools/colleges, but back then if you didn’t draw hyperealism, political cartoon style, or Disney style, they were just rude and close minded

@@Rain-nm1eeYeah! If you already know it, what’s the point of learning it?

Would my tell by really bad faces? Bc even though I've practiced them for years, they still look no better.

@@Nakia11798 no, the tells are oftentimes things that are more about execution than the art style itself- my art changes a lot and it looks different every month, but my friends can always tell a drawing is mine because of the way i draw lines and because of how sharp/soft specific things look

Absolutely

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I aspire to make hands akin to Atlantis hands

Triangle nails babey

Hands down~

In your case, your habits become your style, and there's nothing wrong with that.

"Drawing is drawing!"

You're an art hero!

if someday I decide to go commercial I'll sort my art in piles of similar "style" and sign each pile with a different pseudonym...

Well i have many different art "style" .. cuz sometimes i don't like drawing in the same "style" over and over again .. i like to experiment another artist art "style" and see if it's work for me or not ..

I just noticed that I did improved my art style for over the years it was trash before but now I’m getting the hang of it and understanding the depth of art I’m only a minor but I like learning art more.. than any studies I do

@@zafaii9354 I think the most important thing is not to give up even if you think your art is trash, if art is worth doing, it's better to do it badly than not at all. I got discouraged for years and regretted it after

Awesome!

So, how did it go?

Same the nose thing. Now i'm drawing buttons and sausages as noses, because it fits my simple drawings

Nice but if you still only know how to draw stick figures how do you progress from there

@@usurpererenyeager649 if you're asking for yourself then I recommend by replicating a very simplistic art style that mainly revolves around shapes. I actually started learning how to draw by drawing the powerpuff girls over and over again

@@Suricious Ohh I see thanks, I never bothered to improve my art from when I was younger so I'm still stuck with stick figures

I hate when my hands ruin an otherwise satisfying project. I keep the 'bad' drawing around as an example of what went wrong. It helps to see improvement as well.

Barely anything satisfies me

That’s exactly what happened with me!!!

absolutely

An artstyle can be more that "how your anatomy looks".

Artstyle can also be considered "your view of the world, it's feelings and rules"

yes and no. problem solving is when you identify a problem first and then come up with solution. i.e. "i need this character to look powerful and scary"

problem solving is like, you need to draw a hand. There are infinite ways of portraying that hand but you're gonna have to chose pose, lighting, ammount of details, ammount of anatomy, colors, render. How do you chose what to do? you look at context. Is it a pixel art project? a realistic looking project? animated? Is there a context for the character? do you need to draw some accessories to convey some personality trait? does it need to be super anatomical or is that just gonna distract the viewer from what you want to convey? you go about eliminating things you don't want and simplifying things you don't need so that what comes through is exactly what's needed out of your drawing. It conveys both the story and fits the world/aesthetic you are going for. If the point is practicing perfect anatomy then go for lighting that shows form and maximum detail. If the point is looking scary maybe consider dramatic lighting and more of it in the dark with less detail. Problem solving is context and simplification

I draw a hand by drawing a circle put a circle inside the circle put ovals as fingers

Such truth in such a simple sentence.

Swear. It definitely helps to use references and get some help but your goals will change and it’ll fix itself.

It dont though your just a derivative

As a huge Pikmin fan, I’d love to see it!!!

Yeah, making a good game is a lot like developing your own style in that you have to understand *why* certain games are designed the way they are. What aspects of Pikmin do you enjoy so much? Is it the exploration? Time management? Team management? Combat? Is it a combination of these elements? How did they try to solve different problems. Look at other games and learn how they handled these elements and solve similar problems. Also while it's good to add new game mechanics to make your game more unique. It should be more than just "Pikmin but with sword or Pikmin but with portal gun". Understand how adding these mechanics influence the entire game and what other mechanics would you need to add or change to balance it? For example, how would the sword influence puzzles and combat? How would you balance the combat so you need to use both the Pikimin and sword in conjunction with each other? Would you need to add a stamina meter so you can't spam sword? If so, what other elements can you incorporate with the stamina meter? It's basically like setting up a long line of dominoes and hoping each one hits the other.

Thank you I seriously needed to hear that 😅

@@cheefclam654 We all do :D

But they better in my age i feel so bad T~T

Oh my god, the fact I know what you're talking about hurts me Way too many young artists who have honestly pretty terrible advice on there

People only care about art style and not how the peice fundamentally looks

Exactly! Art style arrives with hard work, not a cheap option from their poor options menu.

Tbh I’d even argue people have no art style until they understand a the subject to a certain degree, if you can’t draw a face, you don’t have a stylised face, you just have a wrongly proportioned face and need more practice

But doesn't copying (without plagiarism) count towards studying? The method of trying to understand the the steps the artist took with their work through reconstruction?

@@MellowDarkflower As Picasso said, ‘good artists borrow, great artists steal’

Fr an artsyle means nothing if you don’t know how too use it.

Artstyle is breaking things and making them pleasing, you can have multiple, you don't need a single one

@@stopreplyingtomycomments7954 Yeah, I guess i saw all the well-known artists and saw a main style, so I thought I should have only one too haha

@@sketchfluff5471 lmao, i felt the same, trust me, having multiple is more fun

​@@stopreplyingtomycomments7954 Is it okay to have just one? There's really only one style I'm good at, and I'm close to perfecting it. I like drawing it because it's very unique from most. Honestly, I tried having inconsistent art styles, but I didn't like it, I'd rather stick to one. I just wanna know if it's concerning to be god-like on one, and trash at everything else. My case is different from most because I willingly want to focus on just one. And I don't mind not being able to do other stuff because I'm really proud of my work.

Yea, I agree.

The nice thing from those lessons, if it’s what you hone in on, is some of that basic construction and stylization!

Hm... May I see your art then Fuzzy? Alot of conception of anime style comes to the person’s view on anime style, maybe your art style is quasi realism, knowing how a realistic person looks like and being able to draw it but decides to draw a more prettier/stylized version yet it’s still in the realm of possibilities

Without seeing examples, the most likely culprit I could think of would be that, while the style is mostly realistic, you slip in "anime" design language(most obviously, look at the way the eyes correlate with the personality) or you have less western design choices(eg, I've noticed that longer locks in front of the ear to "frame the face" isn't that common in the west, but almost universal in Japanese works). There are also more subtle cues in things like shading that could trip off an especially sensitive "anime-style" detector.

Glad it was helpful!

As a young artist I usually watch tutorials and learning anatomy, I started out learning anatomy first then proceeding learning bg,places and animals literally anything. My dream is to become a manga artist seems hard ik but I’m self taught since my parents wouldn’t let me go to an art school, the advice I got from my fellow grandfather artist is to keep what I’m doing until i’am satisfied with the result it may not look like a good advice but it still had me motivated to not give up

can I see some of your art?

A better way to put it is to both learn the rules and stylize them in my opinion

Though you do have a good point

@@LocalGooberGoobs thanks, I really love this advice because it really helped me

Tbh I didn't even do realism that much lol