Succession Season 4 Ep 10 - The Betrayal Scene 

he didn't really love them though. that part was a lie. Some fans tend to lionize Logan, just because he knew what he was doing business-wise (most of the time). But Logan was the worst most immoral character on that show and he made them the way they are. He's blaming them for his mistakes

He should have jumped. It would have been a better ending.

@@derlich09 he may well have, we just didn't see it

Are you guys really serious? Kendall was unfairly made to obsess over this by Logan. He’s not cut out for it (that’s a good thing) he’s an addict to cope with this. I’m so stunned at how many people think Kendall should’ve taken over, and that him not getting it is a tragedy. This business is a cancer on all of them. And tbh Kendall’s skills are mediocre at best. His reaction just shows how he shouldn’t run it.

@TheSuperNats read my post again. Slowly. I didn't say anything of the things that you commented on. LOL

@@derlich09 there is a thing called subtlety

Which is exactly why even tho this was pretty devastating for Kendall. He definitely would've screwed it up tbh

And even worse, Kendall denied the story of him killing someone (on accident) which just making it worse.

To be fair roman and shiv are still cool with eachother. Kendal will probably hate them forever

@@retrobat153 until he realizes that it was for the best that he didn't win for his own mental health he should grow out of wanting that position to heal

@@micow9951 That's what a healthy and normal person would do but kendal is neither. I dont think hell off himself but he will live a boring life doing absolutely nothing of improtance He could OD too but IDK if I could see him doing that

life goes on man, its a TV Show, who knows? @@retrobat153

​@@micow9951i mean the decesion could've been delivered in a better way by shiv And the reason for her making that decesion wasn't because she gave two fucks about her brother or his mental health It was becaus shes a jealous petty bitch that couldn't stand her brithers winning

Shiv the Shiv lol

hopefully she dies if they ever make a sequel bitch is worse than skylar

For anyone didn't know, Shiv is the short of Shiva, the God of Destruction on Hindunism

@@margarethmichelina5146 Shiv is short for her characters full name which is irish in origin

@@margarethmichelina5146Shiv is short for Siobhan. A shiv is a concealed blade used for stealth killing.

Among the ROY-ALS the ELDEST BOY inherits of power and girls are pushed aside.

He's not even the eldest boy

Kendall Season 1: A Broken Man Kendall Season 2: Blaming his dad for the cruise scandal Kendall Season 3: Broken but still gets support from his siblings and seemingly killing his daughter's rabbit with bagel but rabbit is a herbivore (we have no idea about what happen to the rabbit afterwards but I think it dies) Kendall Season 4: Being completely broken altogether

Lmao it’s so true

Meanwhile human furniture from ATN: For God sake why, He was already going to jail twice!

​@@quietek1074Who would anyone choose to be the CEO if the candidate look like this: 1. The son of the CEO who is a drug addict, can't take criticism, insecure and childish. 2. The other son of the CEO who is a pervert, making sex jokes, making weird noise and likes to jerk off and even hit on the only female senior executive. 3. The daughter of the CEO who just enters the company, never working, talk too much, and rude. 4. The grand nephew of the CEO who is socially awkard but tall and join the company because of nepotism. But, he's actually a backstabber and likes to play both sides for his own advantage. 5. The manager of the cruise and park and then later the news entertainment who works at the company for so long and even married the daughter of CEO.

No, she is actually laughing so hard she can't breathe and turned around so Shiv doesn't feel even more embarrassed

​@@mandolen3317"why you 25 but you look 40" 🤭👀

@@Huddy52”ah, what a nice seasoning cabinet we have here!”

I missed that thank you

After he said his nephew and niece are a couple of randos lol

Right after he told his brother that your kids arent real and not part of their bloodline ❤. Not to mention also silently support watching all his brothers dreams and ambitions go down the drain due to someone's insecurity

​@@Nopanophe was neutral until Kendall lied about the guy he killed and tried to make it forget just to push his own ego for the CEO position over the destroyed bond moment they had , Kendall deserved his ending, not serious people

@@XTheLolX301 he wasnt neutral , he was jus looking for an excuse to stab his brother like the 🐍 he is. Kendall deserved to be ceo , he was as serious as anyone on the show

Holy shit good eye, that expression is so good

She's the one that's more like Logan

The eyebrows!

@@rodolfomezaalvarado8004 no way, she's fooled by so many people on the show.

Not quite sure how she did that. Incredible acting.

I only saw the first season, but was that true?

@@busterandrews his two kids were revealed in the finale to be illegitimate

@@busterandrews Think about it, Sophie doesn't look like Kendall or Rava even her skin is browner compared to Rava who is half Indian. If you look closely, Iverson doesn't look like both of them either. So, either Kendall adopted those 2 or probably either Kendall or Rava used baby tube program for Iverson or both of them having a sperm donor to have a kid. Either way, none of the kids look like Kendall and Rava. Also, Shiv's future kid will used Wambsgans on its last name unless Shiv and Tom want to have Wambsgans-Roy for the kid's last name. So, the only thing they can continue the bloodline of Roys is either Connor and Willa want to have baby soon or Roman is getting married but dude can't even have sex to his exes because of him feeling awkward to be touched by women.

Even in this scene I hate Roman the most.

@@lessthanthreemetalwhen was it revealed? Besides Roman’s speculation was there ever confirmation that Kendall wasn’t the father?

Roman and Connor are the only siblings who are self aware in the end except Connor has been surviving alone with no love for a long time while Roman just got the face of reality for the last 2 seasons. Also, what happened with him and Tabitha? Did they break up? He's never mentioning her again in Season 3 as he's single and even he keeps flirting with Gerri. We never see her again after Logan 50th's anniversary of the company.

@@margarethmichelina5146Thats my biggest problem with the show. Too much happens off screen that never gets explained.

I also thinking maybe he used 200 IQ move by mocking Kendall's kids not his to let Shiv escape and also show everyone how Kendall is completely unhinged by making Kendall attacking him. Also, after getting his stitches bleeding back at Logan's office, Roman also look down and uncomfortable because his big bro who used to protect him become a monster just like his dad was. Also, he said "No" on the vote for a long time. He's also following Kendall who follows Shiv to different room not to bully Shiv but instead to stop him to attack Shiv who is pregnant. Usually, Roman is always Kendall's Yes man but on this situation, he fights back and stand up to himself. Also, Roman never interested to be CEO anyway, he just wants his dad's approval.

Incredibly well put

For years I always wondered how this show would end, what the last scene would be. I always pictured something grand and poetic, like Kendall standing by Logan's deathbed or something equally predictable. Instead the show ends exactly how it should have: a playground fight between children. I'm astonished at how fitting and perfect it is, how it elucidates that this is what the show has always been building up to. They're just scared, stunted little children who have never had the opportunity to truly grow up. Such a tragic story.

Mattson generated an entire company that was so large it ended up buying the company that Logan built. Kendall achieved NOTHING on his own. His ideas are bullshit. He is bullshit and he's a barely functioning addict, a walking time bomb prone to periods of mania or depression that massively impact his personal life and the business. There is definitely an element of spite and jealousy from Shiv and Roman but the fact is Kendall is an enormous liability who cannot ever be allowed to lead the company

The fact that it never supposedly bothered her up to that point shows that it never mattered. It was just her trying to put him in a position where he either loses it and she becomes a victim who can righteously stab him, or he tolerates it and he's a pushover unworthy of respect and she can also stab him. Ken could have summoned himself to create a third option, where he gives some impassioned speech about how he's going to make it right, but he always wanted the love and approval of the most Logan-like person in his family. First his father, then Shiv, and you can't test real approval/love unless you give someone the opportunity to shank you. It's just that Ken is surrounded by people who absolutely will shank him, so it doesn't work. The poor guy is pleading to his sister to not do that and she just jams the knife in then uses his rage as justification.

Ken is an addict. He was not cut out for this role. And the response he gives shiv after she said he killed someone just confirmed it. The moment he lied out of desperation both roman and shiv knew he wasn't the right choice.

Hi did not kill him!!!! He was not driving..

Also, noticed how the entire time, Kendall is the only one who's screaming while Roman and Shiv are talking with their lower voice because most of the time Kendall can't read the room and environment. And later, Kendall has audicity to come back to Board Meeting Room and asked the Board Meeting members to adjourn the meeting even though they saw him yelling at his younger siblings, having a childish meltdown, squeezing Roman's skull, trying to attack Shiv who's pregnant. It's also ironic how the entire season 4 is about them talking about the Board Meeting and want to stop the Gojo Deal so badly and all of them blew it up on this scene. They also forget about their planning to buy the Pierce, release The Hundred and Living Plus. -PGN is still working but they're still doing the old ways as Waystar has gone modern with Gojo on their streaming service and PGN is gonna dying soon also as far as I remember, Nan Pierce doesn't have children and her husband already died, she only has her relatives and nobody can continue PGN legacy on the family. -The Hundred is Roman's idea but also Kendall wants to help him to organize it but since all of the siblings don't want to talk no more (unless Connor want to reunite them if he wants to), the plan is abandoned and Roman can't do it without Kendall as Roman is mostly dependant to Kendall or someone else -Living Plus project is eventually never happened because Kendall is not in the company anymore. Also, Mattson who is controlling Waystar right now never agree of that plan and will erase it altogether and it never happenes. Long story short: Logan Roy's legacy died.

@@mariakrauszowska3786 Kendall was driving. The waiter pulled on the wheel because Kendall was not paying attention to the road and would have hit a deer.

you know he still ends up with billions of dollars right? it is very much possible not to feel bad for him

Yesss I thought this too. Amazing acting

Good catch. This story is so overtly and subtly tragic

I know I'm late here, but Roman does not enjoy any of this. His smile his how he's learned to cope with conflict. This entire scene is great because you witness each character's worse traits as a result of their upbringing. Roman was physically abused by Logan, the way he learned how to cope was not to fight back and to seem non-threatening. This is why he's always joking or saying fucked up shit. If he's always saying something weird, and maybe gets daddy to laugh, then maybe daddy Logan won't hit him today. He's not going to fight Kendall, because he's never stood up when faced with actual conflict, especially a physical confrontation. But we do notice how he immediately jumps to Shiv's defense when Kendall goes for her.

What if Roman used 200 IQ move to make Kendall attacks him so the people on outside of the office can see who Kendall really is? Because look at the room, it's on transparent glass and people can see what happened. Also, Kendall constantly yelling to his siblings as Kendall doesn't always look at his environment. So, people see Kendall as a peculiant child who bully his younger siblings to get what he wants. Roman also looking embarrased when Kendall talks to Shiv and bragging her to change her mind. He even questioned whether or not Kendall killed the waiter.

And ironically in every Season finale, Kendall always kills: Season One: Accidentally killing someone Season Two: Killing Logan's trust and reputation from cruise scandal Season Three: Killing his old persona from being a frat boy who liked to party and being a broken man only later got support from his siblings and they killed their chance to stop the Gojo Deal Season Four: Kendall and his siblings killing their own reputations on this board meeting after learning all of them are not exactly being trusted.

In a way, had Kendall not desperately denied he was a killer, he might have pulled it off? Lying to deny it was the final straw (especially for Roman)…it actually reinforces what Logan said? Kendall isn’t a killer, and it’s what finally, ultimately lost it for him.

In the end of the day, the siblings are clueless on real world. They don't know how to grow up, they don't know how to take responsibility, the way they want CEO position is like kids wanting their toys. Logan also was wrong to promise the CEO position to them one by one, because of this, they become arrogant and fight each other just because "Daddy told me!" They thought, they're gonna fight Logan, Mattson or Tom but the real enemies are themselves. They can't trust each other, they can't coorporate and they are indeed still the kids outside their dad's office. They treat the company like their playground but they are oblivious because they are too spoiled. The scene of them arguing in a room with transparent glass showed their immaturity and in other people's POV, they see that Logan Roy was indeed a bad father because he has 3 children who know nothing about the company let alone being mature. And the fact Kendall has an audicity to go back to Board Meeting room and want to adjurn the meeting is totally show how childish he is. He's the oldest of them all but he is also the most childish of them all.

Kieran, Sarah, Matthew, and J. Smith all deserve the acting wins this year.

Kieran and Sarah both ended up winning Emmy’s this year, Jeremy won in 2020

No I'm pretty sure it's just cuz they all hate and distrust each other. Business acumen was not leading these decisions, spite was.

No Shiv is juts dumb lol

Shiv is just petty as always. Whenever she doesn't like someone to be the leader, she's always gaslighting but she lost the arguments anyway. Like how she didn't agree to have Kendall as temporary CEO in Season One, Rhea being the next CEO candidate in Season Two, Mecken being the next president in Season Three, and finally Kendall again being the next CEO. She's always double cross her family by siding with someone else which is totally dumb. That's why Mattson decided to betray her after see how dumb she is and choose Tom as the CEO. Also, Shiv is pregnant and her mind is totally unstable due to pregnancy, so it just worse.

Shiv has never made good decision in entire show and Roman was never strong enough to have clear opinion or take risk. If they would stick to the plan they would have it all.

First she was betraying them way before with Mattson ,when he promised to make her CEO. She never sided with them it was a ruse.

It was bait to get shiv out of the room because the moment he started going all over the place with “I did didn’t kill him” Roman was like buddy you’re too unstable to run this and I don’t care enough to run this plus once he slipped up he couldn’t take that back and be like I’m perfectly fine like he always does

Everyone else was just as unfit for the job as Kendall.

Even worse, he yells at his siblings on the office full of glass and also in other people's POV, they see Kendall is yelling like a child for no reason to his younger siblings while Shiv and Roman are terrified. And then, Kendall attacks Roman and try to attack Shiv and the people realizes that Kendall is unhinged and unstable and there's no way he can be the CEO.

Ken's problem is that it's a tremendous deal for the shareholders. I'm still surprised Stewie stuck by Ken considering how much money he'd make if they sell.

Kendall betrayed shiv first and then got consequences. He was never cut out for it. Too many people miss the point of this show. Kendall getting the job would’ve been a terrible move.

@@TheSuperNats I don't think this is as simple as that. The sibs constantly betray each other, they are incapable of working together because that is how Logan raised them. Were they able to, the show would be over in S1. All 3 are pretty weak compared to Logan, but Ken would likley do the best among and with the right mentors (eg: Frank) he could be passable. Just look at the funeral speech: Ken >> Shiv >>>>>> Roman. Or even at the end of season 1 with the bear hug. Had Logan not pushed him back into drugs and his self-destructive behavior he couldd have very well won right there.

@@crabbieappleton Well it be short-term profits vs long-term. Remember, Logan and Ken did not make the same deal. Logan's deal was better despite it being less money. Logan Kept ATN whereas Ken sold it all. The problem is that ATN is arguably the only valuable asset at Waystar. The rest was liabilities and items that can barely break even. Logan carved out the meat and gave the Sweed the bones and sinew for an outrageous price of 140B and the man was too busy sending frozen blood to people to see it!

@@crimansizers5840 I think Mattson knew this. It's why he kept hesitating on the deal, hoping to prompt the Roys to sweeten it. And they did. And the theme of most of the show was that Waystar was a dinosaur, even ATN (which, like Fox News is mostly angry old white people). There's a strong possibility of NO long-term profits with an independent Waystar. Ultimately, the shareholders run the company.

But when they start grappling shiv just leaves roman with Ken on top and doesn't even try to help him. I like how the between the lines stuff like that really gives us so much info about their dynamic

It also mirrors Kendall ultimately siding with Mencken in earlier episodes. Though Kendall never said he was going to choose Mencken, so that's on Shiv.

Also, both of Roman and Kendall always leave Shiv behind as they always see as "annoying little girl". Even in opening scene since Season 2, when the Roy Kids have family photo, in one second, Shiv is left alone without her brothers. Shiv is always being outcast because she's the only girl on the family even worst, her parents neglect her. A workaholic father and a mother who doesn't even know how to be a mother. You can see that Caroline must hate Shiv the most throughout the shows even suggested Shiv to not have kids. What kind of mother asking everyone if her daughter's marriage work it on the day before her wedding? If she cares to Shiv, she wouldn't do that.

tom deserve this, at the very least, he is always working. he is the perfect guy for mattson, a working puppet

Hey name is Siobhan

They will. Because money talks.

​@@Jeremy-wp4yhall 3 of them are 5 billion dollars more richer. There is no more money they could offer each other to talk

@@bevercage6673 and yet they still wanted that position. The point is no money is ever enough. And they all wanted that position of power. But hypothetically, I see shiv and Roman getting back together. Kendall might either go off the deep end or maybe he gets his silver lining by reuniting with his family.

@@Jeremy-wp4yh roman and shiv getting together is very probable but i dont see kendall ever getting back. Kendall didnt really want money. He wanted power. His desire of power is higher than his desire for ANYTHING. While that is true to some extent for Shiv and roman. I think roman doesnt want that power all that much. He lost but lost satisfyingly. Shiv still retains a bit of power she longingly wants as she knew she would never be relevant to Kendal so she went with Tom. Kendal truly lost. Thats what i meant that no amount of money can talk infront of their lust for power.

@@bevercage6673 I've noticed the comments were saying that Shiv was being spiteful or any other reason for her not choosing Kendall. But I disagree. You can clearly see the moment of realization when she confronts him about the murder and in his desperation he lied. Both shiv and Roman realized that he would never be a good CEO. the addictive personality and hunger for power made him desperate and irresponsible. The scene is very powerful. I also liked how Roman's first instinct is to protect shivs baby when Kendall attacks him

Kendall was not driving the car, waiter did.

@@mariakrauszowska3786 Uh, Kendall was most certainly driving the car. Watch the scene again.

​@@mariakrauszowska3786Kendall was driving the car as the waiter was high on weed. But, Kendall, who hasn't drive for a long time and he mostly got carried by the driver is not very used to manual car as he mostly doing automatically. Roman also can drive actually as he's picking up Kendall who was high on Family Therapy episode as Kendall avoided the Family Therapy to Connor's Ranch.

The way roman says “what the fuuck” 😂😂

@@bluepandasquadfr lol it cracked me up.

​​@@bluepandasquadthe "wtf?" delivery is pure comedy. I just noticed it was Shiv who said that but still hilarious af.

Throughout the show they use the term “kill” to fire or cut terms with financially/business wise.

I think he was just panicking when he heard that. He said “which” as an instinct as if to say “uhh uhh which person did I kill? I didn’t kill anyone”

He was just mumbling thinking of something to say because of the shock of Shiv bringing it up

One could only feel relieved Kendall didn't kill anyone if he denied some crazy rumor that some random guy started just to destroy Kendall's image. Instead, he denies the rumor (he "started" after having a mental breakdown and trying to kill himself) in a moment of pure desperation to get Shiv to vote for him. If anything, this moment only displayes weakness on his part

@@dimitriemirea6084 Oh, I agree Ken's move is pure weakness, and makes him a more piece of shit for not only killing (indirectly) the waiter but denying it to convince her sister to vote for him. But still, as a brother i would feel relieved if my brother said to me that he didn't kill someone. Then I would be upset for him lying to me but only after not before.

Tbf i'm not sure if they were pissed bc they believed that he lied the first time, or bc they realise THIS is the obvious pathetic lie and they're pissed he even tried it

@@peterumathum4903 That's a good point. And I could see why they would be pissed at him. It would just go to show that Ken had already lost any type of decency by killing the waiter and then lying about it to get himself in power. Total dipshit.

Also, remember, that Roman and Shiv are not fully supporting Kendall 100% to be the next CEO, they were just like, "Uh, fuck it. Let's make him the CEO because he wants it so bad since he was 7." Just like how Willa said "Fuck It." To marry Connor in Season 3. And then, they've changed their minds as soon as Kendall sitting on Logan's chair and rethinking their decision. Shiv changed her mind when Kendall put his foot on the desk while Roman changed his mind after Kendall pushed his stich wound to bleed. Also, Shiv is on dilemma either she wants Tom, her husband whom she hates the most becomes the CEO or her arrogant idiot older brother to be the CEO. Kendall is also trusting them too much and he's always forgetting his sibling's attitude who will fight back and be petty.

Agreed! Logan caused this by the way he raised them to always compete!

He would be just like his father that way.

Also, he mostly can't take criticism and will lash out like a child. He also can be sexist in some cases like how he's always leaving Shiv alone, abandoning Rava, kicking out Karolina from the car, yelling at the female lawyer on Season 3, tresting Jess like his servant most of the time and etc. Also, he's a drug addict and worst case scenario, he might die by overdosed soon while being in CEO.

I mean shiv was fine tbh

@@niraxlevi9930 No she wasn't. She was a lot dumber than she thought and acted on an impulse. I mean you would think she would've had it in season 2 when Logan offered it to her but she ruined it all just because Logan didn't wanna tell the Pierce family that she was gonna be CEO when it was her who wanted to keep it on the low in the first place. She acted out saying "for f*** sake, dad, just tell them it's gonna be me." Like that was the most important thing at the moment, not landing the Pierce deal or probably not breaking it to the entire family at the dinner with the Pierces. And the letter that she wrote about Kendall in S3 was pure rage. She was emotional and did not have control. She also had no experience whatsoever, and you would think she would be fit with a bit of training but she also thought "a 3 year timeline" was too long of training when she never even worked at the company. So yeah I've never seen a person who thinks they're smarter than they really are like Shiv.

​@@niraxlevi9930shiv was inexperienced and would really overstep, thinking she was smarter than she was. None of them were fine and that's the ultimate point

In the end of the day, Shiv is mostly being used by the men around her: -Logan used her to make sure that she won't going anywhere around him as she's his only daughter and one of his successors but she's always talk back to him -Gil used her to destroy Logan and ATN's reputation but she quits -Tom used her to increase his status and even he admitted to Greg that he was interested on her purse instead of her at first but she's always treating him like a lapdog -Mattson used her to tear her brothers apart after their interractions on Norway only to realize how dumb she is as she begged like a child to make her CEO and then he dumped her. So, long story short, Shiv is a clueless spoiled rich girl who is being used by everyone just because she's the CEO's daughter. But then after her father died, she becomes nothing.

Maybe he'll actually see his kids 😂

Thinking that anyone "won" is missing the point entirely. Tom also loses in the end by becoming a puppet CEO, staying with a wife who doesn't love him and losing Greg to the soon to be implemented downsizing plan. All the main characters in this show live the tragic consequence of a life of worshiping optics, which is sadly to be continued forward through Siobhan's unwanted pregnancy. The sincere words spoken in this scene by Roman "We are bullshit" resemble those of his father in season 3 "You're not real people". The worship of optics leaves all the main characters, hollow. Approaching the ending of this show like the finale of Game of Thrones is truly mistaken beyond belief.

Picking teams is cringe

Tom is a pussy rat I hated him spineless yes man

​@@cdrthirewell said

The only person who truly wins in any sense is Roman. He gained the self-awareness that the other siblings lacked. By recognizing how BS everything was, he finally has a chance to let go and be a better person and live a good life. It’s a slim possibility, of course, but it now exists for him.

They all did

What is a pregnant woman to do in physical altercation between two men???

If you look closely, as soon as Kendall attacking Roman, she tried to stop him by constantly poking him and said; "STOP! STOP!" But since Kendall is getting unhinged, she tried to escape as it will be risky for her while pregnant to fight him back until Kendall tried to grab her and Roman protects her by grabbing Kendall.

Damn, you would make a great CEO

I don’t think Shiv was envious; she simply realised Kendall shouldn’t be CEO.

Naaaah there's definitely something going on there. Something malevolent. People like to put blame on others for their decisions, but there are clear indicators that the reasons aren't entirely the ones stated.

Yes, which later has been proven by her bringing up a family secret to win a business argument. That shows, she's just don't want to vote for him and she is not even sure why, but she had made up her mind.

​@andraspalatinus145 nah she knows he's bad 👎

@@niraxlevi9930nah she knows Tom will be eating out of her hand again inside a year and that if she votes her brothers out she’ll never have to deal with them again as she continues trying to ascend to her fathers position. She won, just not yet. She’s now the only one who will have a chance after this, of the three of them and she knows it.

Lol

Me parece que más bien fue jugada maestra de por si se notaba que ya tenía sus dudas pero muchos lo verán como traición y sinceramente según mi opinión estoy de acuerdo que haya decidido eso

I mean, it was built up throughout the season. Wasn’t a last minute decision, the warning signs were there for awhile.

@@Harry_S._Plinkett I agree. When Shiv first came into the office at Logan's invitation (Season 1), Kendall asked her why was she there. I thought that was strange question considering she was in her father's office.

Money doesn’t fix emotional trauma. His father gave him money from his business through shares but that doesn’t mean Ken isn’t broken or doesn’t have a lot of emotional trauma.

@@sullivandmitry1416 so much money for therapy. Go finish that rehab he never got to do.

@@TylonMonger you’re a fucking idiot. He’s a billionaire yes, but he also is divorced, has a strained relationship ship with his druggie girlfriend, barely has a relationship with his kids, and now has no relationship with his siblings. He has spent every ounce of his life trying to live up to an image placed in his head by his father when he was 7 years old and just a few days after his fathers funeral, he loses it all because his sister decides she’s not really on his side. His brother just called his kids not his and every other person in his life is either there because they want a piece of the empire or were close to his dad. His entire life has been dictated by his father, revolved around this business and his father, and he’s so trapped in the loop of his abused childhood and his lack of self worth that the only goal to obtain to be worthy of anything was ripped from him by his jealous and backstabbing sister. It’s heartbreaking because he only ever had one thing, and only ever wanted the love and respect of his father, and now he has neither and is alone. No amount of money or hollow therapy sessions is going to just “bam” fix that shit.

Sure, but if you are raised as a billionaire your whole life, money feels almost meaningless. It was always the power for them.

Woosh

Really? I think the ending is brilliant. All of the siblings are way too ambitious to share everything equally. The reconciliation at their mom's house was one moment of clarity, but an impossible standard to uphold because Logan literally raised them to fight each other. Their entire family dynamic is deeply rooted in decades of emotional abuse that has fostered distrust within all of them. Shiv does one last power play because her relationship to Tom secures her a position at the top, and she knows that Kendall with his past of drug abuse could potentially run everything against the wall in the future. Roman isn't a better alternative either, because of his sexual harassment and willingness to deal with nazis. Shiv did the perfectly selfish decision while simultaneously saving the company, unfortunately at the cost of destroying her entire family. That makes Succession an excellently written tragedy.

@@monkeywizard7919 Good analysis and the premise makes perfect sense, but the way towards it was deceitful, cheating, lame. There's no way three brothers who behaved to each other the way they did in their mom's house would then show that hate, violence and evilness. They basically did that along the show, during years. It's not that they hold that grudge to each other. They would let iit out every single chance they had during the episodes. That reconciliation was genuine, but they some how weren't genuine themselves? It doesn't fit. At least if it something significative had occured between the reconciliation and the ending, something not too notorious, but clear enough to make us understand that they couldn't end up well. But no, they did the same thing they did in GoT with Danaerys

You're overthinking it. Shiv wanted to stop Ken no matter what so she brought up the first thing she could think of. Of course it helps that killing someone is not very cool, but she brought it up bc that's the first thing she thought of

@@peterumathum4903 and that's exactly what I'm saying is forced and exaggerated just to get the dramatic result the show was looking for. If you separate the very ending from the rest of the whole show, and specifically every what happened previously in mom's house, it actually works. But the way they did it, it doesn't. I mean, it was dramatically powerful, really compelling, but senseless

​@@Guamparrapo83come on, it works perfectly, it is absolutely on brand for the roys' whole story and we could all see it coming. Shiv was going to be the queen and had to resign herself to crown the conceated brother she always resented for being the presumed heir. It was clear she started regretting the arrangement the moment he put his feet on Logan's desk. When the time came for the actual vote, she ended up being the king maker, and realizing she had the power to do so made her reflect. Her opinion of him was clear from season one: unfit, no achievements to show, temperamental, addiction history, plus the "killing". She knew he was unfit, as were them all. Had she voted for him he would throw her and Roman to the side on the first opportunity, plus he would probably ruin the company and her net worth with it. He was already making impossible claims promising bullshit products on that presentation. By crowning Tom she gets her money, but loses the power they all wanted, including her. Sure, being married to the CEO is still a place on the table, but it is in submission to a man, a situation she always had to endure with her father and siblings and hated it. She might appear to have won, but it was a very pyrrhic victory. It was out of contempt, but also strategic and very comprehensible, considering her character and the whole series. Good stories don't have to have happy endings

There is evidence throughout the show that clearly depicts Roman's incapability of being CEO.

They all had some ability and could've made a decent team if they could stop stabbing each other. None of them had the chops to be CEO, though.

He certainly doesn’t have it. He’s too adhd and chaotic to be ceo. Maybe an assistance or COO but not main job itself.

Roman is free from waystar Royco, he never and I mean never stood a chance in this world and he says it many times.

I think he would have been the worst of the 3. He didn't even really want it.

Whites love this show