She says "dont please, not now" they were at war with him and they learn his death from the hands of Tom, they cant reach him phisically as well since he was in the plane. Such a tragedy and irony, just amazing writing...
@@FablesOutofSpace Not now also implies that all these 3 kids ever wanted was approval/validation from their dad. Not now meaning we are just about doing something and we will be back to you, its only a matter of time.
@@naumaanhamid anddd also that she was pregnant and he'd never know. Later in episode 4 she says something to Tom along the lines of "he won't be here to rock his grandkids to sleep" which is just... UGHHH
It's also showing that deep down, Shiv is still daddy's little girl. There's an indication that Shiv is his Logan's favorite since she's his only daughter but Shiv failed his test many times because of how her arrogance, proud, and too much gaslights as Shiv mostly wants to play safe and likes to double cross everything.
Another moment that perfectly illustrates that is when they're all sitting down and she asks "why didn't you come get me?". Her voice is so child-like, she seems so... small and broken. Unreal.
@@camilleamaral they all regressed - this scene was so masterfully performed and carried out all the way through the end of the series. Beyond words - especially for those who lived out something like this. Terribly authentic.
I truly adore the little detail that Shiv sees Kendall completely distraught and assumes something is wrong with their mother. Logan has always been such a strong, unbeatable presence in Shiv and her siblings’ lives that nothing could be seriously wrong with him, right?
Well she admitted later in the episode that she said mom because she was kind of hoping it was mom and not dad. Her dad means so much more in her life than her mom ever could, and that even means from a place of love. Not just financially and emotionally and all the rest. Her dad dying is 1000 times more devastating to her than her moms passing ever could be.
@@jodythomas4324 also explains a lot about shivs personality. Girls are usually closer to their mothers and yet shiv is almost wishing it’s her mom and feels ok to voice it. You can see the damage of not having a female role model in everything she does, how she speaks etc.
@@jenkins5265 Shiv isn’t almost wishing it’s her mom, in that she hopes something bad happened to her, she just hopes it’s her mom over something bad happening to her dad. Girls with male siblings are famously closer to their fathers and have a weird relationship with their mothers. It just so happens in this case that both of her parents are assholes.
When he said “I don’t know honey” that was so beautiful just by itself. All that’s going on, it’s not so much he even wanted to say it but he knew she needed that in that moment, just a small gesture even as it was.
2:15 I'm watching this for the billionth time and just noticed Shiv's tiny "I don't know what to do" and she's so youngest sibling here... Feeling so lost and asking her brothers for guidance. Man, Sarah's performance is INSANE.
a little added sadism to this scene, when they shot this they didn't tell jeremy strong where sarah was, so when we watch kendall try and find shiv it's also literally jeremy trying to find sarah as quickly as possible (thanks for the pain mylod!!)
Look its a great performance, but there are many other TV shows, with many other performances.. if the Emmys were following audience rhetoric they would have to give out 1000 Emmys lol
@@Fondrom this was shot in one long scene and largely done in one continuous take. Its an incredible performance through and through. I really don't think there will be many competitors to the final season of succession.
this scene is almost 1:1 with my siblings when our mother passed away. similar situation, similar reactions, similar emotional devastation. this is a very powerful scene.
The way Sarah says "I love you" at 2:34 like she's listing it off as something she needs to say and switches to that heartbreaking realization of what's happening when she follows with "Don't go please. Not now" is absolutely masterful acting. I was so sure I was not going to cry over that man, but Sarah got me there. Very powerful performance.
Same, I saw spoilers so I was expecting his death, everyone in the show is pretty terrible so I never saw myself fucking crying like a baby over someone else crying, bravo to all the actors but specially to Sarah, they portrayed loss to perfection
the little ''Shivvy.. honey'' coming from the big brother and Kendall and Roman watching Shiv's helplessness in despair... I don't even know what to say anymore, I am devastated by the episode..
Because she nails the experience of grief. Not sure why a why needs to be asked. I lost my brother in law 2 days ago and I can say how authentic this performance is. The trembling hand. The quivering voice. The deep pain and anger and ambivalence of love and betrayal. Extraordinary actress. Come on Sarah one Globe down, one emmy and sag to go
Sarah Snook’s “daddy?” has to be one of the most gut-wrenching deliveries in the history of television. She deserves all the awards for that line alone.
"I can't have that" is the best delivered line of the year. It is so brilliant on paper and right in front of you. Gives you everything you need to know about Shiv roy in 4 fucking words. Genuinely powerful.
I really like how tender Tom is to her and how he tried to call her first before reaching Roman. It's interesting to see what'll happen, also at the end of the episode they seem to put all their differences aside and find comfort in getting close again
Maybe the first time Shiv really truly seemed like the youngest child w/ her helpless “I don't know what to do” toward her brothers. Ugh. Sarah Snook Emmy now.
That shot of him when she’s pleading. He heard her. You can tell she’s in disbelief until the moment she hears Tom’s voice on the phone, that subtle expression when she knew it was serious. Such an excellent actress.
I love how Shiv goes to all five stages of grief in a minute, going from denial, to begging him to stay, to just being angry at him for doing this to her now, being devastated and in the end accepting it. Just “chef’s kiss” Sarah killed it
I lost my father suddenly on February of this year. From the moment that Kendall grabs Shiv’s hand when he goes to get her, I was sobbing. I still can’t watch this scene without crying. It’s like watching all of the emotions I felt at that time being played out in front of me. And I think the thing that gets me the most is Tom’s gentleness with her. His delivery of “I don’t know, honey” is so real and full of so much genuine compassion that I’m tempted to call it one of the best moments of acting I’ve ever witnessed. This whole episode has cemented Succession as possibly modern television’s greatest achievement.
Sorry for your lost :( I hope your dad was not like Logan Roy. That guy is very, very abusive. That scene with with all the kids is heartbreaking because deep down, the kids all love him. I can't say the same for Logan because I felt like, all he loved was himself.
@@fearless6947 thankfully my dad was a very good man who myself and everyone in his life loved so much. Ironically enough though, he kind of resembled Logan physically in a lot of aspects. Same facial hair. Haha. But thank you for your kind words. ❤️
I’m sorry for your loss. My dad died while I was in another hospital, very sick and unable to be there. I had nothing but phone calls from family to keep me posted as they turned off his machines. While watching this, I wept (hard) from the first phone call pretty much to the end. 12 years had passed but whoops, here’s some unprocessed trauma ready to rise to the surface. I’m crying now, watching this, remembering trying to say one more goodbye over the phone. The helplessness is crushing.
'What? No, I can't have that' Three billionaires who can have literally anything on the planet are finally confronted by the one thing money can't solve; the death of a loved one. It really is the great equalizer.
Some of the subtle yet detailed choices like Roman taking the phone from Shiv and genuinely but very awkwardly comforting her (hug + touch of the head/neck plus her being stiff) is so perfect for their characters/dynamics/gravity of the moment. Emmys for errrboddyyy
The truly brilliant thing about this episode is that even with the roys massive wealth and privilege, the death of a loved one hits the same. The confusion, the sense of helplessness. It affects us all
I just lost my brother an every time I see this I’m like I’d say the most you mf type of stuff but you fought for me you taught me and kicked me in the chest lol you were my brother and that’s all I needed Joshua Duncan December 17, 1987 - August 25 2023 love you Nemo lol 🥹🥹🥹🥹
0:57 Kieran's delivery and Sarah's reaction there is incredible, it hits you like a ton of bricks. I know everyone's been saying it but the entire cast here is on another level.
I find it interesting how we finally see Logan's face when Shiv specifically is talking to him. As abusive as he was to all of them, she was always kinda his favourite as the only girl
I still think Kendall is his favorite. I think ad the only girl he’s naturally more decent towards her and less threatened by her. I think we finally see him cause her being brought into the fold is the the last of the 3 to confirm what we now know is true
@@Chibbykins I mean he kind of told us more than once both directly to Ken and to others the best way Logan knows how 😂 Also, on a more analytical level, I think the kids naturally mirror their godparents and the relationship dynamics can inform us how Logan views his children: -Ken/Frank is who Logan is the hardest on & who he has the most tension with over the years, but we saw how Logan reacted in his state of delirium when he thought someone was being mean to Frank and we saw how Logan reacted when he thought Ken was in danger during the lockdown. Despite his rivalry with both Frank and Ken that’s who he has a special relationship with and why he keeps bringing them both back into the fold despite the betrayals. -Shiv is like Gerri as in she’s a woman and she’s also a strong person that Logan can trust and count on consistently, and like Gerri I don’t think he always appreciates Shiv value because she’s still just a woman. However, it’s easier for him to have a relationship with Shiv & Gerri for this very reason throughout the years because they don’t intimidate or pushback with hostility, or at least they didn’t for many years. -Roman is 100% like Karl (I know it’s not confirmed that he’s Roman’s godfather but I think it’s fair to deduce this since he’s second in Logan’s henchmen group and Roman was born second) IMO in how they appear as sycophants for Logan’s acceptance and approval despite the fact that they still provide a true valuable asset to Logan. However, Karl & Roman are the ones who bend to Logan will more naturally & are compliant & essentially going along to get along. Out of his 3 henchmen I do believe he was closes to Frank and same goes for Ken.
The entire episode, once Roman got the call, a part of me was just anticipating it to play out like so many dramatic productions do. But as time went on, and I realized how they weren't really showing Logan at all, I remembered that Succession is about portraying realism in our modern time. and I just knew he wasn't coming back. Just stunning television, never seen anything like it.
I love the fact that we all feel for the siblings due to the briliancy of the actors, but knowing they are all being protrayed all seasons as horrendous people, and we NEVER feel anything like this for anyone like those people in real life. Truly amazing performances.
The way Shiv says "it's ok" like just accepting what's gonna happend, the photo of Connor at the back, like he's always been, the awkward way Roman takes the whole situation like he just want to run away, and the fact that it make me feel bad and sad for the situation of this horrible people as a reminder that they're humans after all, gosh.
The fact we never learn how they actually get threaten since they were kids by Logan and the way they act like that on their adulthood just make it interesting. The closest way we see of how their flashback look like was in the opening scene, that's it. They all fear Logan but they have no choice because he is their father.
Give her an Emmy, Oscar, grammy, Tony and Nobel peace prize. Shiv gets it Every time. Can someone tell me the backstory on Connor’s mom I just realized Shiv, Rom and Ken have the same mom but Connor doesn’t.I wonder if that’s why Logan “never loved “ him.
Connor's mom is not Caroline (Shiv, Roman, and Kendall's mom). At some point Logan had Connor's mom put into psychiatric care and abandoned Connor. In an interview Alan Ruck has said that Connor's mother has died. I think that's about all we know.
They captured this so well. the insanity and confusion you feel when you lose a parent so suddenly is unimaginable. The way they’re all panicking in their own way but there’s literally nothing you can do. Losing a parent so suddenly is so jarring and they really did a great job capturing how it really feels 💔💔 you’ll never be ready to accept your parent dying especially when it’s so sudden.
Matthew McFadyen was essential to this scene - it made the entire season work. Phenomenal performance by all. Congrats on the awards. Anyone who lived through something like this IRL felt it!
Tom in this scene showed he was the best among them all. Knowing that Logan might be gone soon, he calmly explains the situation and makes sure they all had the opportunity to say their piece. He tried not to overwhelm them but be blunt about the gravity of the situation. There have been inklings of Tom being the best among them in earlier seasons but damn, this moment solidified that despite his faults, Tom is unironically a great guy. And Shiv was very lucky
As a swedish person who lives in Stockholm, I've had this dream since ep 1 that they would visit Europe (especially Stockholm), and when it was confirmed that Logan was going there I was so happy. But then he fucking dies on the plane over there...
I've watched this scene so many times and just now I realized that great shot at 1.01 with Connor in the background on the picture. They just totally forgot about him in that moment😅
