Taking A Deep Dive Into the NEW RULES REFERENCE!! | Marvel Champions 

Thank you! I really hope it’s helpful as I imagine most people don’t want to sit and read the whole thing lol

Thanks! Yeah I don’t blame you, it’s a lot to try and keep up with. Thankfully pretty much everything over there is now in here…..for now 😆

That’s a good idea! It definitely would stand out more that way. It’ll be interesting to see how often it comes up 🤔

Thanks! And yeah I agree they really do a good job curating this game 👍

​@GetUpandGame just finished it up. I was listening, so I couldn't tell if the examples you were providing were written down or came from you, but they were very helpful!

@@njh113 they were a mix of both. There are many helpful examples in the rules, but because of how well they addressed many common questions, the rules brought to mind many situations I’ve seen people ask about so I just popped those out as well lol

Thanks! Hey that reminds me I still need to actually preorder the new stuff lol Dream Chasers is so good!! I played a game of LotR at Con of Heroes and it made me want to start playing it again now and then 😎

That’s a good way to look at it!

No problem buddy! Always happy to help! 😄

Thanks! You totally should! The more the merrier, and it’s a great way to get to know the rule set lol I just try to remember them all. Most of them don’t affect me personally too much (I don’t use Cosmo much and I definitely won’t be now lol and I don’t really like Go For Champions). But I also spend every day immersed in the community so it’s easy for me to remember them. If I wasn’t I probably would print something out as a reminder for sure

@@GetUpandGame Similarly a lot of the new rules don’t bother me. I definitely think Cosmo needed a nerf, and I didn’t use him a lot either. My friend uses go for champions but he didn’t abuse it with Ms Marvel, but like you I’ve never even used it once. I hate to admit I never even knew an “errata” section existed. I’ve never even heard the word. When I saw people on Reddit talking about the “super human law devision” and M.O.D.O.K” update I was like, “Where are you seeing this…” Found the section in the rules reference and I was like 😳😳😳🤯🤯🤯 haha.

@@marvelchampionsxp haha yeah thankfully the errata has been pretty unobtrusive up to this point. This is the first time they’ve actually changed the way cards work altogether

I'm wondering the same thing!

Not that I’m aware of. I’m certain at least they won’t be offering it as an extra printed copy, though I’m less sure if it’ll be in the new Cores going forward. It certainly should be, but I have never heard if any of the others ever made it into the box

Very good question! Those cards in particular are very poorly worded and probably don’t work the way they’re meant to under the new rules. I can say that they’ve said you have to be able to remove at least 3 threat with Cosmic Awareness to be able to play it. But as far as removing the target altogether before completing the effect, yeah it technically doesn’t work with the new targeting rules. At least I don’t see how it could. Excellent question and thanks for asking! We’re going to get it sent in and try to get those pesky cards fixed 👍👍. Or at the very least find out what the developers have to say about it

Haha yep! I had it filmed yesterday I just didn’t have time to get the editing done til this morning lol

@@GetUpandGame Oh I meant the rules reference! You made great timing yourself!

@@JDS8515 oh right lol, that makes more sense 😅

A basic defense does still reduce the amount of damage dealt to a hero, and then the remaining damage is what is actually considered “dealt”. Then if there was 3 or more, even if you prevent it with another effect the damage will still be considered “dealt” for the purposes of things like the power stone.

Thanks! And thanks for the video. This is my favorite game, but sometimes I feel like there’s no way I’ll ever play an entire game of it without having to look something up or ask someone…I’m thankful for the updated rules reference, but now I feel like I have a lot more to learn lol. This video has been very helpful.

@@nealwitt no problem! And you’re not alone lol. I look something up almost every day. Thankfully the rules reference is much easier to parse now at least 😅

That’s a great question, and they actually have a provision for it in the rules! The last bullet point under Target says that “an effect that refers to a future target does not require a target to initiate.” So you can still play it even if there is no current target 👍

@@GetUpandGame Sweet my cheese is still valid lol

@@captaintactless6679 haha yep! That’s a really good idea!

The Magic the Gathering (and a few other ccg's) rules reference that situation as part of the 'fail to find' rule. Usually the thinking is "you can't know the exact contents of your face down and out of play cards, so there is always a potentially valid target"

Yep! It says “each character”, and a “character” in this game includes minions and villains as well as heroes and allies 🙂

Thankfully Teamwork only triggers when the minion enters play AND there’s another minion in play with the same Trait. Then ALL the minions with that trait that have Teamwork will activate. So they won’t trigger it when they’re defeated, though of course the Acolytes all have When Defeated text so they’ll still do something annoying lol