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Talked to the JW elders after today's WT lesson on CSA.....real fallout 

Prodigal Ali
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@sherylalismom285
@sherylalismom285 5 лет назад
I am the mother of these two fine, Christian people. I am crying right now as I think of how much they both love Jehovah and Jesus and each other. I thank so many of you who included kind thoughts about Ali's brother...my son.
@stevebenoit6649
@stevebenoit6649 5 лет назад
I really wish that you do not shun this obviously nice lady. My shunning by my Jehovah's witness parents is doing very much psychological damage every single day. They are elderly, about to pass and I have to check the obituaries every week to see if they pass . This is no way to treat family. It is very unlike Jesus Christ, the only one who we should follow. I am not disfellowshiped because I am a pedophile a murderer or a their, or such. I am disfellowshiped because I researched both sides of the coin about the Jehovah's witnesses organization. I could not in good spiritual concience follow this religion. Please don't damage your daughter. You have no idea how much pain this shunning causes. Love her as you want Jesus Christ to love you. Our Bible says that Jesus Christ will judge us as we forgiven others. Be careful this shunning is not right. Jesus Christ is watching.
@sherylalismom285
@sherylalismom285 5 лет назад
@@stevebenoit6649 thank you for your comment. No, I will not shun may daughter, even if she gets DFd for
@Mabeylater293
@Mabeylater293 5 лет назад
Aww my heart goes out to all of you😘😘❤️❤️❤️❤️
@prodigalAli
@prodigalAli 5 лет назад
@@stevebenoit6649 she doesn't shun me. She was scared of me researching in the beginning, but please know she doesn't shun.
@sherylalismom285
@sherylalismom285 5 лет назад
The same reason as you. Which is not scriptural at all. Andd I am bracing myself for being DFd also for not following the policy to shun. It's beyond crazy It truly is cruel. Thks for your concern.
@ArizonaRed
@ArizonaRed 5 лет назад
My JW sister barely talks to me. She told me she wants me to stop telling people I was ever a Witness. Then she and her husband blocked me on Facebook saying she would see if I change. She offered to help clean my house and tried to take all my books and tried to give me a Bible. I just can't be anything other than me or what has this all been about? They never can be themselves if they think it could get them in trouble. Then they say, "make the truth your own" and "serve out of a pure heart" and with integrity. I think it's mentally unhealthy to try and sacrifice who you are and give up your family for a lie. Your brother is serving a lie. He doesn't care what the truth is if it goes against "the current understanding "even if it hurts people and calls it the truth. I think that's sad. All for Nothing!! I understand that knowing that doesn't make the pain stop. There's always going to be that spot in your heart for him.
@jwreasoning
@jwreasoning 5 лет назад
Sister Ali, Thanks so much for your kindness and for the video you posted after the Watchtower study. In my opinion, you were NOT a bulldog. You displayed the love and kindness of our Lord Jesus! Unfortunately the elders sounded just like the Pharisees to me. I was a "born in" JW as well. I left at 18 years of age (wasn't baptized) then married my, "born in" wife at age 20. I went back to the org at 29 years of age and my wife and I were baptized on the same day in 1996. I quickly became a servant and an elder. Fast forward 10 years from baptism and I had to leave. Too many doctrinal problems in the org. (No blood, disfellowshipping, 2 "classes" of Christians, Faithful slave understanding) I could go on... Anyway, I resigned as an elder in 2006 and stopped going to the KH. I disassociated myself in 2009. My dear wife now of 32 years remains a faithful JW and is a really good example for the congregation. She knows I have a ministry witnessing to JW's and another ministry as well. Even so, we are doing very well by the grace of God! We are actually closer now then when I was an elder. I believe that this is because I am completely honest about what I think and believe and I do not have to veil my beliefs due to organizational policies. Even so, she does not want to have spiritual conversations. I respect that as you do with your family. However, once in a while something will come up. I just wanted to encourage you and say, I'm thrilled that you still believe in Jehovah and His begotten Son! So many completely lose it when this happens. On some level I do understand this. I hope you don't mind, but I will be praying for you and for this ministry you have in reaching out to other JW's, and for your family that their hearts may soften. I agree with you, JW's are lovely people! I love them very much! While I appreciate quite a few other ex-JW ministries, I think there is a need for more kind/loving ministries like yours to show that not all "apostates" are as categorized by the org. May Jehovah continue to bless you sister! Your brother, Mark.
@lillyfields5626
@lillyfields5626 5 лет назад
This is probably about the most painful video I've watched. My two siblings are disfellowshipped and I did shun them for years. Now I'm awake and trying to repair my relationship with them. In the meantime other family is pulling away from me. But its my parents who I refuse to loose, but your pain is what I fear I may end up feeling if they choose to not open their eyes, hearts and minds. I'm so scared but I cannot keep quiet either!! Sending you lots of love!! Thank you for fighting for what is right, and for real truth!! You and your family will be in my prayers!! You are not alone!! 💕
@davidwicklin9943
@davidwicklin9943 5 лет назад
Jesus was a boatrocker. So were many good women and good men.
@anaceciliahannickel5814
@anaceciliahannickel5814 5 лет назад
Hugs!!! I feel u, friend. I went through a very similar thing, tho my brother isn’t an elder. He’s inactive, actually, but he knew that me speaking out would cause a separation in our family and he wanted to preserve us. But like you said, this does beyond our family. This is much bigger. And I refuse to stay quiet just to apease two people. There are too many hurting because of others complacency. Much love!!
@kittylove2975
@kittylove2975 5 лет назад
It's an unspoken understanding in my husband's JW family that we Ex-JW's are spoken to, only on an "as necessary basis"(ie: family illness). We are greeted with fake smiles and brief greetings. We are excluded from all other family events and gatherings. IT'S THE HUGE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM THAT NO ONE TALKS ABOUT OR WILL EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE IS THERE... Though, my husband's unbaptized family members are acceptable for his JW family members to associate with, even though they want nothing to do with the religion, and were raised in the JW environment... It's pathetic, so I stay away from, even the "as necessary basis" as much as possible.... I'm sorry for your pain.. .🥀
@Crystallinegoddess57
@Crystallinegoddess57 5 лет назад
Speak your truth my sister. Much love for you. The truth will be revealed. I have been shunned by almost my entire family. When the truth is revealed, I will be there with open arms for them as well as friends that shunned me because of this demonic cult. Your brother will need your support when he finally awakens. Love and light my sister.
@idrishamilton2620
@idrishamilton2620 5 лет назад
Jesus CHRIST died for our sins dont be ashamed of the Gospel of Jesus CHRIST .Holy Bible only
@DownwiththeTowerexJW
@DownwiththeTowerexJW 5 лет назад
I couldn't just 'be quite' either. Shout loud and proud to anyone who will listen.
@DownwiththeTowerexJW
@DownwiththeTowerexJW 5 лет назад
@Skjeren Kristjenson Thank you. Life is so much better now! Hope you are doing well :)
@ucanliv4ever
@ucanliv4ever 11 месяцев назад
There is a time to speak and a time to keep quite. Ecclesiastes
@ruthmouse1650
@ruthmouse1650 5 лет назад
Much love to you, my sister in Christ! I know these feelings. I have brothers and a sister, who I was close to, who no longer have anything to do with me.
@ig751
@ig751 5 лет назад
All I continue to hear is the sister I studied with reassuring me that we Jehovah's organization doesn't break up families and yet it has destroyed mine growing up and if that wasn't enough I still joined them and almost destroyed my own marriage and our children's lives. So glad I woke up but I still regret the pain and confusion I caused my current husband and children for the four years I was in. I'm so glad my husband refused to join. I now have my father who has an inclination I left that the spirit in my home is tarnished and not the same. On the contrary father since I left the cult my life has been so much better and my depression and anxiety has subsided tremendously.
@juliabann2238
@juliabann2238 5 лет назад
Your brother told you to be quiet may indicate that he may have his doubts but doesn't want to loose his position in the organization and for him to ask of you to be quiet is unreasonable. You are so brave. All you can do about your brother and anyone like him is pray for them to come to Christ. No freedom in the WT cult.
@Janice-d-witnessing
@Janice-d-witnessing 5 лет назад
Oh, my heart is breaking for you, and I wish I could give you a big hug! I can't imagine what pain you are feeling right now. What you did today was a tremendous sacrifice for the sake of the abused and defenseless. You did a great thing. Praying for you and your brother. You never know; you may have planted a seed even in his mind. He knows you were there to stand up for the victims, and that it's the organization that is forcing him to cut ties with you. It could be one of any number of things that helps him to start waking up. Thank you for posting this transparent, vulnerable video. This is the kind of thing people need to see about the organization and what it does to families. God bless you.
@sherylalismom285
@sherylalismom285 5 лет назад
This is a wonderful comment. As their mother I can tell everyone that they both are very caring, loveable people. Both very special.
@leannnachtrab917
@leannnachtrab917 5 лет назад
Thank you from the bottom of my heart for going and speaking your mind and your heart will always be special to me
@kag7419
@kag7419 5 лет назад
I’m heartbroken. But you right, we can’t stay quiet, this is for the victims who can’t speak up.
@jamesjourneyman9903
@jamesjourneyman9903 5 лет назад
Ali, oh my goodness 😢, I’m so sorry. Please know that you are not alone. Most of your listeners are here for you, whether 50 minutes south like this writer, or thousands of miles across the world. The hurt that this religion has caused is so real and so ugly. Truth is important to many of us who have withdrawn our support; sadly truth is not paramount to them, but primarily compliance. Ali, based on your kind words about the people still embedded in that religion, you come across as having a heart of gold. I’d suggest strongly that you protect that heart and avoid traumatizing yourself like this. I was tempted to go today too, but I became physically sick anticipating sitting in the midst of so much negativity, untruth and judgment. There’s so much more I can say on that topic, but not now; maybe later. Sending you lots of love, peace and positivity. -Blessings
@lovetoread9042
@lovetoread9042 5 лет назад
I am so sad you are going through this. I hate I joined a religion and subjected this to my children. To know that people will shun their family even parents, children, siblings simply because they believe differently. I am glad I am awake and out of the sickening cult. I pray for you and your family. Sending big hugs.
@myfrankensteinlife4489
@myfrankensteinlife4489 5 лет назад
I thank God i purposefully stayed distant from members in the congregation and had no family in. When I left it wasnt a huge loss. My heart hurts for your loss sister. Stay strong.
@dianasmith4545
@dianasmith4545 5 лет назад
Ali, I am so sorry. Thank you for sharing. The wounds go deep and it hurts to loose ones family. 45 years ago, after being a pioneer and devoted witness from In Ohio I was disfellowshipped for being disobedient given my parents reporting for smoking cigarettes and they thought I might be gay. They smoked all my life and the summer JWs came out with no smoking policy, I had been sent away at 17, to babysit my pagan cousins, to get rid of me because I started asking questions that made people uncomfortable. My mother was not healthy mentally so it was a relief not to but subjected 24/7 mood swings. I discovered life outside of the witnesses, i indeed did start casually smoking. My parents still smoking reported me. It was a distraction and a cover up for the child abuse they subjected me to and made unfounded allegations about my sexual orientation. I had no idea about being gay as we were all very sexually stunted. The brothers and sisters witnessed child abuse for years, did nothing to stop it, except the caring sisters, that had little voice, would come to take me out on service to get me out of the house. I was grateful to them and as a result of their kindness and live, I decided to go to Bethel after graduation, ergo the 2 summers of pioneering, awaiting the end of world in 75. I was shocked that I was so summarily shunned and quickly, without probation, was disfellowshipped and removed out of community with my parents kicking me out in the middle of my senior year. It was a devastating time. I felt betrayed, abandoned and rejected. I was determined to succeed and out of defiance joined the military and entered college. I eventually found an amazing life outside and other like minded god-loving not god-fearing people in supportive and non cultish community. However, Several years ago, after 40 yrs, living in a California, I opened the door as a kind, open JW lady and her sister spoke with me. She brought the next day some elder brothers back with her. They tried to recruit me. They were impressed with my immediate recall of the Bible and said what an asset I could be to Jehovahs organization. Working me and I was almost enticed and thought maybe they had evolved since my teens. I then shared my disfellowshipped experience. They said it I could not come back unless I went through the reinstatement process. It didn’t matter I had been wronged and simply said something about that would not happen today and about imperfect men at the time. It was an ongoing conversation over the course if several visits. They had done their research from my old congregation, confirming what I had shared. However, I still would need to go through the reinstatement process, but they would expedite it given the time and my side of story. I had prayed if they reinstated me without having to walk there hall of shame, then it was meant to be, if not, stay away and operate from Love and serve within my Current Spiritual Community. I was so disappointed and it unearthed all my childhood pain and was livid. My father abused me emotionally, mentally, physically and sexually and me being the secondary sex, was dismissed again. Ironically my father was going through the process of reinstatement as he was disfellowshipped for smoking several years after me, as well as each of my siblings. They welcomed him back and enticed him with their interpretation that he’d see our recently departed mother as she had never been disfellowshipped. But not because she committed no indiscretions but she had such a vitriolic personality that kept the brothers at bay. I told the brothers in this later congregation all about what I had grown up with privately that was never allowed to be told as a youth cuz I was just an angry kid that Satan had gotten too and my father never told them about his abusive past and yes, they welcomed him back in. Sadly he is a lonely gullible almost 85 yr old, going out in service 2x weekly captive to their Brainwashing and now accompanied by my brother who too lost his wife and he too was reinstated. Both of them arrogant about this being the Truth m, the only truth their truth. They professed they were walking the narrow path and would be on the right side of Armageddon, living in Paradise with their now deceased wives. Once again, given I wasn’t going to succumb to their guilt induced biblical based reasoning, and refused to go through the reinstatement process and being told I needed to forgive and surrender rather than reject Jehovahs beckoning me and accusing me of being unwilling to be humble, they’ve made me to be the outcast and continue to judge and shun me. My father cannot see the loving woman I have been for the past 45 years and still views me as a rebellious teenager and my brother the revered one. They sound just like those brothers in your 17 minute RU-vid. Circuitous reasoning but no critical thinking only what the Soceity or the Elders say. Even though it was painful 46 years ago, with the help of individual and group therapy and internal work, I have healed many of the scars and wounds of the ignored child abuse, mental, emotional and spiritual misuse and rejection.by this very incongruent organization that says they are loving but are run by a group of old white guys who rule by oppression, misinterpreted biblical scripture to justify their archaic and outdated laws, with no accountability . I am so grateful I have had the opportunity to make a choice and use my mind to Love God outside all this programmed rhetoric and be a witness to and of Love. I wanted revenge and restitution for all the harm, isolation and abandonment I felt. The witness coming to my house was a blessing. I was able to stand up for myself, speak my Truth and they heard me. I had found a deep peace and I know they know and are choosing to ignore. I do not have to hold them or me hostage to the past. I am not the judge or jury. They will have to reckon with Jehovah. I know the Truth and it has set me free! Thank you for allowing me the space to share this publicly. It’s another level of healing. I wish you love, peace and freedom Ali. I am hopeful for you in your awakening and your healing. May your brother see the Amazing woke woman you are. Keep on loving!
@lindacooper3757
@lindacooper3757 5 лет назад
Diana, After reading your oppressive life summary , I am moved with deep emotion. Praise Jesus that you are now able to walk as an overcomer and standup with confidence to those who once whose theology once crushed you. Our Amighty Father turned those ashes into beauty. You like Ali, are mighty in spirit and have a beautiful soul. Though I was never a jw, I have family that got sucked into it, so I see the perversion of the false gospel that is void of love, mercy and grace. I have a tender heart for anyone who has been unjustly abused. As a young girl I was bullied, which turned my life upside down for many years. But, Bless God, He allowed me to rise above this dark ness and gave me His powerful holy spirit along with the unconditional ❤️ of Jesus !! No turning back ! We are all growing and walking in victory with the peace of God that passes all understanding. 🙌🙏💞
@southernbawselady7092
@southernbawselady7092 5 лет назад
We got your back Ali!...Stay strong! 🙏❤ Elders are really "company men" who act as human resource agents for the Watchtower organization. Remember, human resource agents act only in the best interests of the company. Elders search out any who are not loyal to the company, and those who are not actively supporting the policies and mission; as well as, individuals who are not reaching established goals within the corporation. All of these individuals threaten the profitability and outward reputation of of the company, and may affect others in the organization. When individuals inside of the organization/corporation have learned of hypocritical actions, deceitful policies, or lies regarding the actions of representatives of corporation, departments or heads of the corporation (Governing Body) and begin exposing these... Elders (human resource agents of the Watchtower ) are assigned to eliminate or lessen the effects of "whistle blowers" by labeling them "apostates". Once they identify an individual as a "whistle blower" they follow well established company rules and actively pursue any threat that may expose secretive practices, hypocrisy, or harmful or illegal actions that may impact company's profitability. Elders follow corporation guidelines set forth in the exclusive manual for elders, entitled: "Shepherd the Flock of God" published by the WTBTS. 1. To become informed as to the level of knowledge and information a potential whistle blower possesses. 2. Have a formal meeting (Judicial Committee hearing) with them to ascertain the level of dissent or waning support for the organization and threat they pose to the corporation. 3. Formally put the whistle blower on notice their actions constitute disloyalty to the corporation and they will be "fired" from the company losing all benefits and any ties to other members of the corporation. 4. During a congregation meeting ( regularly scheduled corporation workshop) announce the "firing" of those who have failed to follow corporate rules.
@saracarlson-kringle
@saracarlson-kringle 5 лет назад
Southern Bawse Lady Yep! And that's exactly how narcissists behave, also. Straight up.
@grantknott
@grantknott 5 лет назад
Southern Bawse Lady Well said
@sherylalismom285
@sherylalismom285 5 лет назад
That's a good summary of how it actually goes down. I don't think it started with Raymond Franz, Ed Dunlap, and Rene Vasquez. But it certainly has picked up the pace.
@grantknott
@grantknott 5 лет назад
Chiafade now Yes, well said. Sadly that’s how I finally found it
@chillytoes337
@chillytoes337 5 лет назад
You and what you're doing is amazing. I'd rather be sorry to my brother than be sorry to God and Jesus. You have to stand up for what's right, not for what the JW's tell you what's right, and you're doing it! Sorry that you're experiencing so much sadness and heartache, my heart feels for you. Blessings.
@rebeccakrupp1804
@rebeccakrupp1804 5 лет назад
I thank you and so many others for being brave and honest in speaking up. You could have taken an easier, cowardly route.
@davidwicklin9943
@davidwicklin9943 5 лет назад
I am so very sorry for your pain Ali!! Fellow Wisconsinite hug to you! Your passion for righteousness, justice and what Christ REALLY wants shines through (not just "submissively" "shutting up" as JW elders pigeonhole the flock, ESPECIALLY with how they treat women). Impact made Ali! Your physical presence and your verbal presents! You probably have seen Stacy got the rawest treatment being denied commenting and having to stand up to be heard. God Bless you and your courage and fortitude in our Reigning King Jesus Christ's name!
@dweamwady
@dweamwady 5 лет назад
What a precious person you are!! I thank you for speaking for those who don't have a voice! Please know that my heart goes out to you and your family! I also left behind my little brother who's an elder. He is such a good man. He loves what he's doing, he loves the congregation and his wife and children, he loves Jehovah. But I also know that even though he doesn't speak to me, he loves and misses me and I love and miss him! Your brother loves you too, and it is unlikely to change!!
@Diana-si3uk
@Diana-si3uk 5 лет назад
My heart goes out to you I’m watching you cry for the lost relationship you have with your brother and it saddens me . But you are on a different journey and an important one .. never apologize for who you are and what you believe you have taken your stand against the injustice that these people stand for .. your brother knows you love him but your right it’s not about you or him it’s about everyone .. Much Christian love to you and keep you chin up your very brave .. it takes a lot of courage to do what you did ..
@lalo2641
@lalo2641 5 лет назад
Your not alone
@beautyRest1
@beautyRest1 5 лет назад
It’s so sad, I’m experiencing something similar. Hang in there, it will get better. You will love your brother and he will be close to your heart. He loves you too,, maybe one day he will come around, you NEVER know!
@anneroberts6634
@anneroberts6634 5 лет назад
My heart goes out to you, Ali. I have also lost my younger brother to the cult, and ironically it was I who brought him in. Stay strong. :)
@dinotudisca3821
@dinotudisca3821 5 лет назад
The only people who care about JW policy and procedures are JWs. The outside world could care less about two witnesses -elders -legal dept etc. The policies and procedures of JW not only put others in the congo at risk, but also the remainder of the public. Call the police already. It literally should be step 1. Get these victims away from the abuser and then get the victims help. In our local community so many school teachers and aides have been arrested for not following up on reports they gave to higher ups, because they are mandatory reporters. How would community feel if they knew JWs are harboring a secret list of 1000s of predators. You did the right thing. I am amazed at your strength
@debraallen2132
@debraallen2132 5 лет назад
Sweetheart , don't beat you're up. You are very brave . Don't give it another thought about what anyone thinks of you. You know you're doing the right thing and they should be following your example. I'm very proud of you ! My name is Debbie. I've been out since '97 and I left with no support, ( which took a very big toll on me. I'll tell you sometime.) I was asked by my doctor if I wanted to get in touch with ex witnesses. I was shocked and my face showed fear as I said no wag. But now 22 years later, I find that I love these fellow throw awas. Think of what you did for these children and for God. God bless you .
@jerryjohanan1940
@jerryjohanan1940 5 лет назад
You are doing the right thing. If they stop him as a elder maybe it will wake him up. When I walk away my mom still talk to me but it was small talk.
@andaway1
@andaway1 5 лет назад
You have to pray for your brother and I mean really pray!! Drop seeds on him as often as you can and continue to show him love more than ever before. Don’t be afraid trust God and he will do the rest. I did this and my son is a PIMO, as a matter of fact he called me today to tell me to take a look at the study article on child abuse. He told me he cringed during entire study. We discussed the article by addressing the ARC the law suits, the loss of members and the lies the society is continually spewing to retain and members His eyes are wide open because I’ve prayed and the Lord heard me. It took over 10 years but he now sees the real truth about the so called truth. God bless you and stay encouraged.
@amazingbibleantiquities7221
@amazingbibleantiquities7221 5 лет назад
Yes, you mustn't give up! Double down! Fast and pray that God will arrest all foul spirits and open blind eyes. This is true spiritual warfare!!!
@davidwicklin9943
@davidwicklin9943 5 лет назад
So well stated!! And I get down on myself depressed and have only walked away two years ago after 25 years in. Lots of cobwebs to cut through!
@smeggie734
@smeggie734 5 лет назад
It is heartbreaking,rips you apart,you are left feeling the lowest you could ever feel,soul destroying. Hitting hard loving, caring individuals like yourself. Take care and lots of love to you and all being affected x
@clarsisk4751
@clarsisk4751 5 лет назад
I truly appreciate you and that you have taken a stand against evil men. I am not disfellowshipped, and I was baptized in 1969, I came in in 1966, so I have been around this organization for along time. But about 5 or 6 years ago, I came across the same information we all have since then, and I was shocked. I cannot attend another meeting until this evil mess is cleaned up. Not only that exposed by the Australian Royal Commission, but all of the investment portfolios as well. How dare the brothers, take money out of the collection box, and instead of advancing kingdom interest, they are financing weapons of war, Chemtrails, Monsanto which is poisoning this entire earth, pornography, banking industries, derivatives, tobacco products, gossip publications, and more. We preach everlasting life and a paradise earth at the doors, but at the very same time are financing the genocide of all humanity, and the annihilation of all living things on this earth. We are the biggest hypocrites the world has ever seen, we make the Scribes and the Pharisees look like saints, at least they weren't trying to kill every living thing on this planet. Keep your faith, what is going on is the weeds, the man of lawlessness, the apostasy, has crept in, exactly like Christ said it would, we are witnessing it happen right now. If you ever want to talk I can be reached at clarsisk@ymail.com that is my real name, and I am real easy to find.
@beckchasewolfe
@beckchasewolfe 5 лет назад
I'm so sorry Hugs I will pray for you and your brother
@sherylalismom285
@sherylalismom285 5 лет назад
Your comment about praying for her and her brother might sound like a cliche to others, but it was a very kind thing to say and your comment touched my heart. Bcause I am their mother. And I am so very proud of both of them. So thank you for feeling for them both.
@SamSam-ft3to
@SamSam-ft3to 5 лет назад
Having no natural affection. JW's are fulfilling this prophecy. (2 Timothy 3:3) Please be strong dear sister.
@pjtippett5510
@pjtippett5510 5 лет назад
So sorry that happened to you. But not really surprised. Seems the people still in are closing ranks, and those relaxed rules are being tightened. The smell of desperation running deep throughout the organization these days with lawsuits, selling off properties, people leaving, the internet activism, and cart crashes. Keep making you a better person, and no more kingdom hall visits for awhile. Peace & many Blessings
@Tempo719
@Tempo719 5 лет назад
Sending you lots of love and light!
@eddytheman1384
@eddytheman1384 5 лет назад
big hugs to you brave girl Ali !!!
@jehovahswitnessnightmareth7441
I know your pain... Lost every person I ever knew. You are doing the right thing... You are shining your light for the world to see. We speak the truth but they will not hear it, we speak the words of Christ but they do not recognize it. We reason with the Pharisees (Elders) and they cast us out of the synagog of Satan.
@VictoriaOz
@VictoriaOz 5 лет назад
You have a strong sense of justice and that’s why you feel impelled to speak out .. you are a very good person who cares about others and those that have been badly treated by “The Organisation”.. thank you for sharing 😔
@saracarlson-kringle
@saracarlson-kringle 5 лет назад
I hope if your brother (or any other family member) wakes up, he (or they) will remember how loving, and caring, and honest, and respectful, and Christ-like you were on this day. (Or any given day).
@louiscassar2537
@louiscassar2537 5 лет назад
I couldn't be quiet. I was kicked out 15 years ago for apostasy! I wanted answers. Unfortunately I lost my family, broken marriage and children completely shun me. If they can't hear the truth about the "truth" it's their problem, not ours.
@lalo2641
@lalo2641 5 лет назад
God is too great
@davidwicklin9943
@davidwicklin9943 5 лет назад
We love your little brother too!! The door is always open for him by you and us for when he wakes up despite the Guttering Booty & elders doors being sealed shut. This too shall pass. We shall overcome!
@18Muses
@18Muses 5 лет назад
awwww... I bet it seems surreal.. big hugs xx ❤️💔❤️
@jerryjohanan1940
@jerryjohanan1940 5 лет назад
Your doing the right thing by saving others to don't ever forget that
@RiaCottingham
@RiaCottingham 5 лет назад
I’m listening to ur last few videos in a weird order lol. So, I listened to ur conversation with those elders a few mins ago grrrrrr! I got angry. Now, I’m seeing this and in tears. I’m so sorry, I can completely empathise with u I’ve lost all my family too. They just accepted the orgs reasons and walked out of my life. Sending u healing hugs 🤗
@annamurillo2041
@annamurillo2041 5 лет назад
My heart breaks for your loss but you are so brave and selfless to be a voice for so many victims. That is the true mark of being Christ like
@PhilJonesIII
@PhilJonesIII 5 лет назад
Lady: Ex-pioneer, ministerial servant since the early 90s here. I wrote a letter and simply stated that the religion was an anathema to me now. I used that word deliberately. You are absolutely not alone though the isolation may be crushing right now.
@servandorocha7658
@servandorocha7658 5 лет назад
If you only knew, lots of brothers are waking up now don't keep quiet talk for all those that cant talk, the worse thing that happened to the watch tower in our time is the internet because now its easy to get information, don"t stay quiet TALK.
@LovinLife-pv7op
@LovinLife-pv7op 5 лет назад
Thank you for standing up for children who cannot protect themselves. There is a young woman on youtube named "Bravely Taylor". Her father, a J.W. elder, sexually abused Taylor and her younger sister, impregnating her younger sister. She made videos documenting what J.W. process, the elder meetings, etc.
@matilda4406
@matilda4406 5 лет назад
Turning a blind eye - EXACTLY - we can't live like that anymore ! You are totally appropriate, your brother is the one that's weak by saying people should keep quiet, no people should not keep quiet, keep your chin up Xx
@pedrogonzalez6880
@pedrogonzalez6880 5 лет назад
Thank you sis. This is not an easy road to take but many of us xjw are doing very will. It gets easier
@EverettCarter21
@EverettCarter21 5 лет назад
Wow Ali. As hard as it was to record that, thank you for sharing it with us. Hang in there, I'll be praying for you. Your story is going to help a lot of people.
@sallypeterson3171
@sallypeterson3171 5 лет назад
I'm a bull dog too, ex-Jw now a Christian Apologist. You GO GIRL! Yes! Yes! It's a CRIME! What did he say??
@hangedman821
@hangedman821 5 лет назад
Christianity isn't true either Sally.....frying pan to fire. Keep searching!
@morielrorschach8090
@morielrorschach8090 5 лет назад
@sally Peterson, to be fair, stalking and harassing people isn't "apologetics."
@tolowreading6807
@tolowreading6807 5 лет назад
I'm so sorry for the ( hopefully temporary ) loss of your brother. Perhaps one day he will wake. Meanwhile, you continuing to live your truth is inspiring and worthwhile.
@isaiah30v8
@isaiah30v8 5 лет назад
You chose the truth over your own family and lost your former life? Just like that, you voluntarily picked up a torture stake for the truth? . Matthew 10:34-39 Do not think I came to put peace upon the earth; I came to put, not peace, but a sword. 35 For I came to cause division, with a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a young wife against her mother-in-law. 36 Indeed, a man’s enemies will be persons of his own household. 37 He that has greater affection for father or mother than for me is not worthy of me; and he that has greater affection for son or daughter than for me is not worthy of me. 38 And whoever does not accept his torture stake and follow after me is not worthy of me. 39 He that finds his soul will lose it, and he that loses his soul for my sake will find it. . I would be happy to call you my sister! . Luke 6:22-23 “Happy are YOU whenever men hate YOU, and whenever they exclude YOU and reproach YOU and cast out YOUR name as wicked for the sake of the Son of man. 23 Rejoice in that day . .
@isaiah30v8
@isaiah30v8 5 лет назад
Just trying to help everyone remember what Jesus Christ said: . John 14:26 But the helper, the holy spirit, which the Father will send in my name, that one will teach YOU all things and bring back to YOUR minds all the things I told YOU. . John 15:26-16:2 When the helper arrives that I will send YOU from the Father, the spirit of the truth, which proceeds from the Father, that one will bear witness about me; 27 and YOU, in turn, are to bear witness, because YOU have been with me from when I began. 16 “I have spoken these things to YOU that YOU may not be stumbled. 2 MEN WILL EXPEL YOU . [Name of person] is no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses ----> MEN WILL EXPEL YOU . John 16:4 Nevertheless, I have spoken these things to YOU that, when the hour for them arrives, YOU MAY REMEMBER I told them to YOU. . Remember? . .
@camillechase6895
@camillechase6895 5 лет назад
Al you so brave, we love you sis.
@cindyluwho72
@cindyluwho72 5 лет назад
This video is heartbreaking! I hate seeing you in pain like this! 😭 i Was In Tears Listening To This...I can absolutely empathize with what you must be going through (I feel your pain in my heart)💔 Especially when you said you can't have both.. If you can, reach out to me sometime this week.
@39yuffie
@39yuffie 5 лет назад
My parents get me upset. I had to put a halt to my interaction with my mom. Everytime she calls I get anxious.
@Green4peace
@Green4peace 5 лет назад
You are brave. You are real. You love others. You know what they are doing is wrong. It hurts your inner being. My daughter is a victim. My sister is a victim. I am a victim. We are three victims among thousands to this horrendous crime. Something is wrong when we are told to keep our mouths shut. Did Jesus keep his mouth shut to the Pharisees? No way! “Brood of vipers!” “Hypocrites!” My heart aches for you. I wish I could give you a hug right now. I have recently been shunned by some family. I assume it will worsen.
@paultheoutdoorsman
@paultheoutdoorsman 5 лет назад
Hey Ali. It's my first time seeing one of your videos. I feel very encouraged by your example. It is actually cowardly to remain silent when there is hypocrisy and injustice. It is courageous when you speak up in a respectful but firm way. Unfortunately the org doesn't have the correct definition of humility and so they label you as "lacking humility" if you speak up when something serious is wrong. After having been an elder for many years and serving in Bethel and then re-examining what I was taught, just like you I found that was stated to the public was much different than what really went on. It's all about the org keeping a good appearance. If it was about upholding God's name, then justice and the victim would come first, not the organization's name. I'm fortunate that Christ called me...and he called me to leave the org because the spirit would not allow my spirit to rest if I in any way supported an organization that was hypocritical, putting themselves in Christ's position as leader and mediator, and downtrodding those that ask honest questions or that make mistakes. Your example has encouraged me to start making some vlogs in the future... just to speak my mind openly in a respectful way. My road has been painful as yours because I still have feelings even for those that would reject me. And on top of that, many of the uplifting things I've discovered in the scriptures still remain hidden from them, so I feel quite sorry for them. Please know that many that leave the org still love God, and some of them go on further to have a personal relationship with Christ which is what should be the goal of every Christian. It would be a sad thing if you let the pain to cause any resentment to take root. Worse if you were to distance yourself from our Father and his beloved son because of what men do. Pray for the strength to show love under these circumstances. It will first of all protect YOU and will give you inner peace as you please Christ in your dealings with others. Beg for joy in the spirit and it can lift your spirits even when all alone. And remember you are not alone. Every day lovers of God and Christ leave this organization that would have you believe you need them to be saved. The Bible never once states that association with an organization saves. Yet it states 100's of times that our faith and relationship with Christ saves. That's Biblical! I said to my father recently: I would rather have only Christ, than to have the leadership of imperfect men and millions of so called friends and not have Christ. God bless Ali. Ps. If you live anywhere near Toronto you're always welcome to come by our place and know you are valued, welcome and not alone.
@39yuffie
@39yuffie 5 лет назад
So sorry for what you are dealing with. It's a horrible thing. :(
@amazingbibleantiquities7221
@amazingbibleantiquities7221 5 лет назад
You are a Christian human being; our job is to look out for the greatest good OF ALL, FOR GOD (James 3:17). Watchtower wisdom is earthly, sensual and devilish. 🤔
@soozilasarge1495
@soozilasarge1495 5 лет назад
You are so brave. Praying for your heart ❤️
@dinotudisca3821
@dinotudisca3821 5 лет назад
So sorry this happened/ is happening to you. Stay strong, know you are loved. It is horrible what the JW org has done to many of us.
@mrsjadabe
@mrsjadabe 5 лет назад
I am praying for you, I know this is hard, but you are strong! Proud of you!!
@ericschumann9545
@ericschumann9545 5 лет назад
It’s hard but we will pray for you
@davidwicklin9943
@davidwicklin9943 5 лет назад
The shunners have to have their aha moment epiphany and recognize THEY as the ones performing the shunning are doing the persecuting.
@meltedsnowcaps
@meltedsnowcaps 5 лет назад
I’m so sorry this is happening to you, you don’t deserve this at all. You are a wonderful person, there is nothing wrong with being a bulldog! ❤️
@RenLuuk
@RenLuuk 5 лет назад
Good for you. You mentioned a video you haven't posted yet doesn't have good sound quality. Do you use Premiere Pro as your editing software? There are some ways you can try and get rid of the background noise. If you go to RU-vid channel Video Revealed, Colin has a couple of videos on how to help. The easiest way is to go to your Effects, click on Audio Effects and then click Balanced Female Voice. This has really helped me. It also helps when you want to get rid of wind noise. But keep up the good work! Keep watching Lloyd Evans!!!
@rodhucker4901
@rodhucker4901 5 лет назад
You are one very brave person! Your brother may be a great guy but regrettable not great enough to value you, a clearly super person, above the creed of the society. Maybe he enjoys the position more than his family. Just saying…hope you’re not offended. Your hope/prayer/wish to just be family is echoed by many of your fellow “brothers and sisters’, including me. Here’s wishing YOU the very best that life has to offer. Go bulldog!
@pmongo2mongomery949
@pmongo2mongomery949 5 лет назад
So very sorry. I know the pain.
@phinehas55
@phinehas55 5 лет назад
Thanks for your video. I too feel similar to you. Lots of pain associated with this cult. Yet I promise, there is light at the end of the tunnel.
@meagapi1683
@meagapi1683 5 лет назад
I am not shunning my d daughter I continue like always I love her we go together
@lalo2641
@lalo2641 5 лет назад
They also say that once a witness is hurt is like touching Jehovah s eyelid and he will come, well what about the victims!!! that doesn't count either, all the unfair situation s and the 1006 cases don't count? Only if one of them get hurt 😂😂😂😂😂👍
@mamajimothy1677
@mamajimothy1677 5 лет назад
I hear you, we all hear you. Your voice is important and echoes among so many who are brave enough to share with the masses. Awaking, staying awake and moving away from bondage and into authenticity is full of letting go of what was once our reality. Hearing you today AND listening to fellow JDubs means the world to me. Yes, it’s testimonies like yours that shows me the cruelty and stone hearts they really are. I’m so sorry you are feeling so hurt, especially reflecting on your relationship with your brother. I hope your sharing helps you heal.
@chicknpi
@chicknpi 5 лет назад
I'm so sorry Babi Gurl! I cried with ya too! But it has been an extra tough day for me and inevitable. I will pray that they see how stupid their actions are. It is like death and they don't grieve. Does that make them pyschopaths?
@_Churchy
@_Churchy 5 лет назад
Ali, you're bravery and integrity and raw honesty of feeling moves me. Sending you warm affection from London ❤❤❤
@lflowers7325
@lflowers7325 5 лет назад
Thank you for standing up for those who do not have a voice or too afraid to say what truly is on their mind
@lalo2641
@lalo2641 5 лет назад
The Bible does mention about a sword ,but what about those 20 scriptures about unity!!!!!!
@gbnomore3918
@gbnomore3918 5 лет назад
It's a 2 edged sword, the second edge for the WhOrg.
@lalo2641
@lalo2641 5 лет назад
@@gbnomore3918 👍
@danielletripkoff4199
@danielletripkoff4199 5 лет назад
Sending you lots of love and prayers!!!❤🙏❤🙏❤🙏❤🙏❤
@JR-gc8el
@JR-gc8el 5 лет назад
The problem is we are all imperfect, all humans, elders and all, even when we all try to be better, but yes it will all be fixed one day! Just as Jesus said to his followers, this wicked world will be done away with!
@brianburgi2683
@brianburgi2683 5 лет назад
ouch.
@christinemerritt974
@christinemerritt974 5 лет назад
Oh sweetie, you’re breaking my heart 💜 I watched the recording video the other day, and the outright ignorance of the elders Made me physically ill. You are showing true love towards your brother by speaking out, even though he doesn’t see it yet.
@curlycods492
@curlycods492 5 лет назад
Tell your bro next time he gets broken into or has a car accident first call the branch office
@saracarlson-kringle
@saracarlson-kringle 5 лет назад
curly cods I would recommend that to any JW! I'd love to train a parrot to pop off with that line...
@lillyfields5626
@lillyfields5626 5 лет назад
Wow. Such a simple thought but that is so powerful thank you for sharing!! I will be using that reasoning with others!! 👍
@JayZoop
@JayZoop 5 лет назад
Thank you for sharing that. If you read on in 1 Cor 1:10, the divisions were referring to people saying they were followers of men other than Jesus. Jesus is the one who was impaled, not anybody else. The JWs are followers of the governing body and do whatever they are told by them. The JWs do not follow Jesus and his instructions during the Passover “keep on doing these things in remembrance of me”. Also John 3, Jesus tells all people to be “born again of water and spirit.”
@lalo2641
@lalo2641 5 лет назад
Love conquers all things doesn't hold record of wrong
@dirkhoekstra727
@dirkhoekstra727 5 лет назад
I can't decide which cult is more damaging. JW's, Mormons or Scientologists.
@damongreville2197
@damongreville2197 5 лет назад
Hey Ali I would be proud to call you my sister. Keep praying for your brother. The Holy Spirit will convict him of the truth, he will leave that dreadful organization, and you will be reunited. God bless you!
@jaydixon487
@jaydixon487 5 лет назад
I see the sincerity in your proclamation of love. I'm so sorry for your pain. I hope you can learn to be mostly happy by living in the real truth.
@pennytarrant6608
@pennytarrant6608 5 лет назад
I have read the most beautiful, heartfelt, sentiments in the comment section of your video, here, than of any video that I have ever watched, (let me tell you there have been several hundreds). I too have a painful experience/testimony/witness to Watchtower's crimes +Ali's Big TOE & Mother, +Ever Learning
@prodigalAli
@prodigalAli 5 лет назад
😍🤗
@TheDazorro
@TheDazorro 5 лет назад
I feel for, you,my brother was an elder and when I woke up ,he told me to fade away in other words stay quiet ,i could nt do that i told and showed him everthing i found out .Of cours he had an answer for eveything from wstchtower, ,,, now he does not comunicate with me,so ssd
@lftxit4reel891
@lftxit4reel891 5 лет назад
💔🙏🏻
@marwatson7408
@marwatson7408 4 года назад
You are so right on everything you have said!!!!!! I was a witness for three years I couldn’t get over how weak minded everybody in the congregation was nobody ever thought for themselves. The fear, guilt, and shame week after week nobody could ever do enough for the ELDERS, I finally had enough got disfellowshipped and proud of it left and never looked back.
@lalo2641
@lalo2641 5 лет назад
You have lots of courage
@exjwfreedomfighter
@exjwfreedomfighter 4 года назад
my heart goes to you Sister while you speak about the cold treatment of your former closest friend and family members, I've through that stage too,but serving the Lord in spirit and truth is worth all the pain of being shunned, i'm not yet disassociated and never disciplined but it will happen soon,in all the 15 that i'm fading away I've done my best to slowly and patiently awaken my family members and few friends and happily my efforts is paying well,just last night I have convinced my mother- in- law to finally accept blood transfusion to save her life, so we can look for day when our family will be awaken at last
@ethelbentancourt2233
@ethelbentancourt2233 5 лет назад
My sister I felt your 💓
@JW_Mayfield
@JW_Mayfield 5 лет назад
Im sorry to see all the pain your suffering from this hateful practice. Shunning is a form of torture. Instituted by Nathan H Knorr. I hope you find peace in this life.
@prodigalAli
@prodigalAli 5 лет назад
Thank you. I do have peace. It temporarily gets interrupted. But I'm ok. Thank you so much
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