Talking with an Incel about Starting a Relationship 

I know this is old but around 1:01:29 I am a psychologist by my first degree and I had to comment on this as well. Your guest here loves this mindloop because in his past life it has worked as his defense from a lot of hurt and overwhelming emotions. He is constantly attacking himself and turning it into himself, which is also partly why he had low self-esteem.

Watch a lot of Ted talk and end up here. This guy genuinely reminds me of a much more mild version of myself. RU-vid algorithm is trying to tell me something, but I'm just gonna slowly step away 😆

How much tho?

@@DisobedientSpaceWhale there are 3 commenters here be sure to @ them so they know who it's for.

@@drea1985 I am asking Healthy Gamer GG how much his therapy sessions are

He seems like a great guy and I think we all share at least some the issues he describes. There's light at the end of the tunnel but he's put a blindfold on himself as hope leads to pain. Hopefully these comments help him see he's not alone and he begins to believe in himself again.

true. I struggle even talking to my therapist alone imagine in front of a camera

Yes, I respect this bravery too! It's a great way of learning on how to support each other as well!

I think he doesnt realize the good qualities he has. Talking about his looks he looks like a plesant guy, not mean or scary. Hes not angry, He seems patient, thoughtful, willing to have a hard or difficult conversation.willing to listen. Not superficial. ❤ well this sounded better in my head.

@@conniekeshet I agree. Paul seems like the archetypal nerdy 'nice guy'. Unfortunately most women typically friendzone both genuine & fake nerdy nice guys they don't find attractive or charismatic....I 've never experienced the 'friendzone' as I'm relatively confident with a flirty SOH & been lucky enough to date chubby sexy girlies with lower standards that I find very attractive...

Dont think he did.

@@aono335 he did

Cute clickbait UwU

(GONE WRONG!) (GONE SEXUAL) 😱😱😱

You really think we could decent men in indecent time you re wrong reality is cruel society is cruel most important think in life what you look like and what you look like your character don t matter morals don t matter none of them matter its over

takes some balls

u mean conversation not conservation right?

its the aoe healing brother, THE AOE HEALING!

thanks paul.

But Paul have you tried magic mushrooms.

I almost cried with the guy

first time?

I think it was him realizing how true and simple and obvious (and attainable) it is. He knows when you smile and laugh it makes people smile and laugh. His laugh was “omg duhhh obviously!”, the cry was “I’ve wasted so much time and heartbreak over something so simple”. In my opinion of course 🙄

@@mechadie5915 why the rolling eyes emoji?

@@gustavesoucy-breton6841this x2

That's the thing about incels. They don't need an 8 pack, they don't need a million dollars, they don't need a jaw line that could cut glass. They need to fix their attitude and have a scrap of confidence. Men have it easy, these things are usually more important than looks.

The bell do you mean by have it easy? My what measurement?

Jack Black you are lying.

@@Saint_Magnapinna The difference I see with good looking guys is that they keep trying when a girl isn't showing interest, they try to win them over and in many cases it works.

@@JackBlack-fs3so So easy they kill themselves left and right. Truly the universal sign of an easy life.

Definitely makes you question the types of people they allow to be therapists

Yeah, and then this guy normalises it (which fits his personality to a t), I wish he could get mad about this for himself omg.

I hope that therapists supervisor slapped him a new one

it's shit when that happens, some therapists don't want to deal with initially difficult patients so they just bail out. They know the patient will be extra work, extra effort and they go for easy cases, or ongoing cases, like people that get therapy just to vent and talk but not really try to fix something, that usually brings in the money.

im like a 7x champion of that shit

seriously. So difficult. Bravo to him.

A hostile and skeptical legend for Dr. K to talk to. But legend nonetheless.

@Drink Water why tho? I'm not saying there aren't people playing a losing game they don't understand. But why play the game?

@Drink Water Sounds pathetic

@Drink Water ???? feelings matter too, that's just as real

was thinking the same looool

Well, Dr. K didn't label him as an incel. Paul did it himself.

@@satyakisil9711 Then don't use it in the video to get views.

True, but either way he's getting the help he needs incel labeling or otherwise.

I get it, though. The online incel groups are not groups that many men would want to associate with despite technically fulfilling the definition of not being able to get a girl.

Why did you need to call me out like that.. 🤡😂😂🤯.

@Tiny Little Boy ur comment describes me :X

Assertive training

So he should be a Virgin his whole life.

Wow that list is me, and you're right, I desperately need to learn to love myself

I completely agree !

True, which is why sometimes you're very good at giving advice to other people but when it comes to yourself it seems like there's no helping it. Therapy gives you that 3rd person view of yourself to show angles you've never actually considered and while it does look obvious from the outside it doesn't look very clearly from the inside, hence the need for someone to talk to you about it.

That's exactly it. My uncle used to say to me all the time "there's no such thing as common sense, only learned sense."

This right here, should be top comment. No questions asked

Not to mention, oftentimes therapists/psychologists have some truly influential advice/perspectives/tools to offer people that aren’t common knowledge but *should* be. How many people have honestly self evaluated whether their self esteem is at a healthy level? How many people have checked whether they have internalized shame from early instances of rejection that were fundamental to their view of themselves? We know things as seemingly benign as a 2nd grade break up or a week of bullying or a parent missing their kid’s senior night can have a *monumental* impact on that person going forward, but because that kind of effect is often only centered around abuse or PTSD-level trauma, we subconsciously deny the impact less severe experiences could possibly have on our personalities bc that’s seen as weakness, which just solidifies that shame. Our brains didn’t evolve to have the answer for every damn problem/conflict in our lives, this is why psychologists need a decade of training, and even then not all of em have the best answers. But ironically in my anecdotal experience, it’s often the people who shit on therapy who are most in denial of how much they need it, I mean how do you convince someone the value in something like that of their brains wont even let them recognize the source of their issues? Love me some Brene Brown talks on the price of shame and the value of vulnerability, I’m praying our society has a mental health revolution in the near future cuz jesus do we need it

@Einsatzgruppen B Watch the fucking video lmao

@@tupi9999 lmaooo

Yeah big props to him.

Been through like 5 therapists and the last one just refunded his money and said I'm giving up on you

@Vale Sauce No.

Depression is a powerful tool your brain employs to defend against outside influence, or even inside influence. It will radically distort your thinking because the brain is simply a tool to explain how you feel. All our issues and conditions and hopeless stems from this basic and tragic flaw in our survival systems.

@@themachine5647 at the same time we can't perceive happiness or comfort without a brain so you win some you lose some

never try, never fail

He's allowed to be alone! Relationships are rough! He and everyone will be happier..

@@christinehaley8097 but...he wasn't happy.

I can totally relate as I've had similar experiences with therapists with one of them similarly telling me I'm hopeless and he can't help. After 3 tries I stopped going and thought therapies are just scams. I was way more skeptical watching this than Paul was and by the end of it I was more than impressed by Dr K. I guess I just went to bad therapists and should try again

ppdashing i’m so sorry those therapists let you down. I have a friend who deals with the classic “Drs don’t believe black women” problem where one doc told her her problems would be solved if she lost weight, and another quack who said in their first session that he thought she had DID aka Multiple Personality Disorder when really he just wanted to be her long term doc so he could hit on her every time. She finally found a good therapist who diagnosed her with PTSD and got her on the right treatment course but i mean fk man it still haunts me to think she might not be alive today if she ran into one more bad psych. Anyway damn i’m really glad my lil comment resonated with you and others, really wish you good luck in finding a therapist that fits your needs. psychologytoday.com has “find therapists near me” tool that’s been helpful to me for anyone interested. ☮️

jewboy “talk about problems like fucking woman would”?.... Thats a very concerning sentence you got there, I hope you can find what you are looking for in life, and will be happy real soon

i mean, therapy is and always will be a scam and people who attend those are literally braindead subhumans

Filip Radić now this, this mindset has got to be some 4chan meme level shit like hot damn, I aint biting on this one

Because there's no such thing as an incel, it's not involuntary. That's the thing.

@@ul4906 actually, there definitely is such a thing as incel. It's a whole community/ movement with their own ideologies that some people choose to become a part of. So while not being able to get laid is indeed involuntary, identifying yourself as an incel is definitely a choice.

@@Y0JA That backs up what I said, it's not involuntary, they choose to be an 'incel' (although they don't always understand that)

@@ul4906 Has anything ever been involuntary besides dying?

@@JrIcify Living?

Paul struck me as struggling with coping and recognizing his emotions overall. The good thing is that one can learn to improve it. Keep it up, Paul.

Nothing wrong with him, its the world around him thats f**ked.

@卐 Maison des Aryens 卍 ok. So?

@@Liawino Most men are ugly while being bald. Unless they have a bone structure like Jeremy Meeks which this man doesn't. It's over for him.

@@Chicodon008 Will it be more difficult than if he wasn't bald? Sure. Does that make it impossible? Of course not.

Underrated comment

@@gino14 conclusion you are a normie?

So true!

what happens when the news says white man bad for 7 years lmfao

@@lafondawilliams “muhhhh white people so oppressed muhhhhhh”

@@zeltzamer4010 cringe

@@zeltzamer4010 He's right though. Guys like these are told by the media that men, particularly white men, are bad and should feel bad. So whatever issues he has internally get confirmed by all kinds of sources.

@Mannech It's literally not just those things. For example, there are college courses in my country (canada) that teach white guilt as curriculum, in addition to "male privilege" etc. Also, are you suggesting you know everything about paul because of an hour and a half interview? Cause I'm not. I'm just suggesting that there is external influences that affect his pre existing core beliefs about himself.

That’s the attitude! :) It’s hard to love someone who’s bitterly cursing the universe for not handing them a significant other. It’s easy to love someone who, even when dealt a bad hand, shows love and kindness to others.

ANNNNND thats exactly how it happens ! Congratulations (honestly). You mature along the way and become a better more responsible , mentally healthier person and women perk right up and notice you in a good light .

Thats exactly how it works. Aside from certain niche types, like macho guys and bitchy girls, "looking for a girlfriend" doesnt work if youre not extremely socially skilled, charismatic etc. Happiness is attraction. Passion is attraction. Interest in things and the world is attraction. Being focused on yourself and finding what you love doing will inevitably lead to people being attracted to you. Learning how to be happy by yourself and be independant will not only make your entire life better by itself, but its also the only way to have a healthy relationship that will last. "Why is he so happy? I gotta know! Wow he seems so passionate about this subject, it looks like this guy is a doer... and even though i have no idea what hes talking about, it seems so interesting when he talks about it, when he shows it to me. He makes me feel like things are going to be okay, he got a grip on his life but still knows how to make light of things or take things easy when its appropriate." Every time i got together with a woman it was always during times i was not looking for one and i wasnt trying to get with girls, but just focus on my own life and just try to have fun with people otherwise. The rest is simply a matter of time and place. When you dont try to be fun (too hard), you will most of the time be fun. And the best part about it is, the women i got together with where all truly amazing people. And surprisingly often way too pretty for me too. Im not ugly, but some of these women were out of my league looks wise. But it didnt matter. I was not into cars or soccer. I was into a lot of nerdy stuff, but i also liked sports and was always athletic. Physical attraction is important too. Take care of yourself and get comfortable with moving. It can only benefit you in all areas, and you cant expect someone to be physically attracted to you when your stomach sticks out twice than your chest and youre covered in greasy hair all over. You dont need to be Arnold Schwarzenegger or Chris Hemsworth either, but this is again a good base not just for relationships and women, but for yourself aswell. The rest is as i said above.

@@stylishskater92That was so autistic to read

@Professor Waffle "love everyone and anyone I meet" That statement implies he was socializing. He means you don't hold it as a central ideal.

Wow you said it perfectly

People see him negatively because they treat him negatively. He's ugly and weak and others treat him like a punching bag and you say the problem is with him. The problem is with others who choose to feel good by making others feel bad. The real problem is others choosing to treat him like dirt and insult him for no reason and put him down for no reason to feel better about themselves. There's a lot of that going on. Most people accept and love and praise it, when it happens to others. They curse it when it happens to them, but they praise it when it happens to others. You see people who have no reason to hurt others and who've been pampered all of their lives displaying absolute cruelty for no reason. Being spoiled makes you more evil than the opposite does. A lot of people need to suffer more, not less. They need misery, not happiness. You get too much happiness, you turn into a spoiled brat that loses free will that Satan can easily use as a puppet to hurt the innocent and the orphaned and the damned to make you look bad in front of god and get god to abandon you so that Satan can torture you forever. A lot of people are going to be tortured by Satan forever for what they've allowed themselves to do to god and to others who they should've had more empathy for instead of insulting and putting down every chance they got for no reason other than because it felt good to them during the moment, for five seconds, or ten. People would subject you to a life of torment for five seconds of feel-good feelings; that's how useless people are. They'll never admit it. And they don't need to. They've already lost everything. They're just not smart enough to have figured it out yet. They'll figure it out once they die and meet Satan. Then they'll figure out why it's wrong to torture others for no reason, and it'll be too late for them to do anything about it. And they'll cry out for mercy, and mercy won't come. And they'll cry out to god and god won't hear them. People forget that when you torture someone for no reason you're torturing god for no reason and that god will never love you again once you torture him for no reason too much. Just because you aren't in jail doesn't mean you don't deserve to suffer. Plenty of people aren't in jail who torture others for no reason day in and day out. People think there's no justice because there's no justice in this world. That foolish notion will finally be corrected when they die and figure out that justice isn't in this world but in hell.

@@aquilo1714 What people need is not suffering, but understanding. Experiencing different forms of suffering can increase empathy and make it easier to understand, but that lack of understanding is the core issue. And it's not that people are "not smart enough" to figure out that actions have consequences, it's that their wealth of experience tells them otherwise. Increasing accountability among the wealthy by better legislation and political involvement to that end can help reduce the number of people who don't learn that actions have consequences. Improving education and teaching your children to care about others and aim to understand also helps. Dishing out suffering to privileged people shouldn't be the first thing you think to do. Please try to be less spiteful, more understanding and more loving. "... Love your enemies, ..." (Matthew 5:44)

@@aquilo1714 The idea that God will "never love you again once you torture him for no reason too much" is also a limitation I wouldn't apply to God.

Squirrely as fuck haha

You mean this male feminist just gaslight this guy into blaming his thought process instead of actually getting to the root problem which is that he is ugly

He's still a balding, short, out-of-shape man already looking about touching 30 though. His "problem" of being involuntarily celibate won't fix itself! Not even he himself could fulfill such a tall order, looks and genetics matter, I know it hurts us humans deep down. Mother Nature is a cruel b****!

Probably couldn’t see the beauty due to alexithymia

Huh

I haven’t reached this part but it hurt my soul to see him constantly try to convince or “give evidence” he is hopeless

Would you pay to watch it?

@@mandokir people pay to go to a therapist.

@CJ Ransome But he didn't believe in himself. This is a process of identifying a problem that is creating a negative situation so that the afflicted individual can work to improve themselves. "Believe in youself" is the main message of any therapist, whether you pay for them or not.

@CJ Ransome Well it's not JUST believe in yourself. It's to recognise that you aren't controlled purely by the negative thoughts about yourself. Stepping back and seeing that the emotions are part of your body, not the "YOU" you identify as/strive to be, and there are so many experiences that affect your mindstate. The some-scars that rise up to tell you you aren't worthy, to say you're not able and capable. To catch them and feel them and think about where they come from. Are you feeling unhealthy and lazy? See that you're unhealthy, see that you're being lazy. Then work hard at changing that. Step by step, little by little. There's no JUST DO IT like nike says.. get help to do it. Find ways to learn how to deal with the problems in your life by talking to the people who care about you... doesn't have to be someone close it could be a complete stranger.... I care enough to type out this longass message because I care enough to hope to make a difference. I know that I'm great, smart and good-looking. I don't see it all the time and sometimes all I can see are the failures.. well I've been learning to try and step back and change something about it. It doesn't always work like this morning I was glued to my bed again.. but I told my friends a few weeks ago that I needed help to get out and they call me in the morning if they haven't heard from me and that snaps me out of it. Went for a walk and it made my day. Make changes. It's hard. It hurts.. it hurts more to stay where you are and it'll hurt more the longer you do.

@CJ Ransome ???Who's she??? And why did you want to get her involved? I was talking about YOUR general mental state and about being healthy and comfortable in YOURSELF. Once you have that then others will start to become more comfortable around you.

my thoughts exactly. This was a tough one

He's insanely talented.. what I'd give to talk to him for an hour lol

He tried to put Dr K in a corner. Found him to have an unlikeable personality. Seemed to have come to the interview with a hidden agenda. A lack of empathy and superiority.

Direct a conversation by taking what Paul said, running away with it, changing the context and then coming back and saying "see now you're supposed to feel like you're in the wrong." This Dr. K is a crafty little prick, he sets traps for you, he asks questions that he knows the answer to, but he guides the logic to suit his own narrative, that he's in control of what the correct answer will be, which is contrary to the answer which he knows is the most obvious. That's why I call him UnhealthygaslighterBG

@@NickGreiner1988 You are conflating walking someone through logic that they believe to be true and maliciously manipulating someone’s perception.

Too bad he didn't have Dr. K's help

@@cleverman383 I could have used Dr. K's help at that point myself!

I had a similar experience. It was really hard. I was so genuinely into that man, but he met everything with self loathing. I could never convince him either.

Did you try opening your legs?

I was that guy in that situation. Its a defensive mechanism that you won't live up to your partners expectations, and would rather put your walls up to soften the blow in the event that a part of you, which you disdain would be revealed and ruin what you have. As someone who has had difficulties being my worst enemy. You really try your hardest to present the best side of yourself to the person you are in a relationship with, but when that someone thinks you are great you get an instant feeling of (Guilt?) That you are hiding who you really are. So instead you infer that you don't really like me, only the part i'm choosing to show you. Its a self fulfilling prophecy. You are scared revealing yourself flaws and all will change the way they look at you thus dooming the relationship, so you close yourself off and dooms it anyway. But at least it was your choice and you weren't crushed by someone you care about when your weakness is shown. It comes from a place of hurt/confusion. Blaming yourself for not being good enough in past events with ones childhood (at least for me). It's not an easy thing to fix. Sorry you had to go through that and I hope that man is doing better.

My key take-away was K's point on "noticing is what leads to control" and his point on "despair is protective". I've literally noticed myself being illogical with self-loathing, and I've perpetually been unable to stop it. So, a recent solution I've tried (before watching any of Dr. K) is to notice that I am being illogical and then proceeding to despair. I think to myself "I will now feel bad because my brain is refusing to respond to reason." And while I do feel somewhat bad, the stress relief almost overwhelms it. Without getting into why there's stress relief there, Dr K's point on despair being protective resonates with that. I still don't know how to get my brain to stop vehemently rejecting self-love. There's no logic there. It's not doing what I want. I can't control it. But I can deflect it. I can intentionally feel despair. How I replace that despair with hope? I'd really like to know.

​@@Mathignihilcehkwhat does hope mean to you? Because for me right now it seems like you are hoping to overcome despair, so I would say you are on the right path.

@@caiquefreitas544 In this case, hope is believing that I will be valuable someday. My issue is not that I intellectually reject my own value. It’s my subconscious. And as of yesterday, coincidentally, I realized my subconscious will actualize itself eventually. And has already been progressing towards that for at least a decade. You know… this answers so many questions about my nature. It’s absurd that I never saw this. Literally, my entire worldview hinges on my lack of self worth. I always knew I had problems with my views on my self worth. But the impact was lost on me. I thought I had it under control. I just occasionally made stupid decisions. Nah. Each and every one of those decisions was a result of my core subconscious beliefs. Nothing was an accident. This is truly a new paradigm for me. I had been living my life thinking I had a broken controller. Nah. Self destruct mode was turned on. I still have no idea how to turn it off. But now I know the controls work. Will this have any impact on feeling worthless? Probably not. Could this have an impact on me intentionally making my life worthless? Yes. That’s progress!

​@Mathignihilcehk when you notice the self loathing, deflect it and replace with words of kindness - physically to yourself 'you're doing a great job' 'you've come a long way' 'you're on the right path'. Would be a good idea to keep a journal everytime you notice the thought patterns that stress you out. Figure out what triggers them and how you can prevent those thought patterns. Good luck and sounds like you've made some great first steps on your journey to recovery!

i disliked him greatly but i believe it's because of how much he reminded me of myself. i kept watching because this type of advice Dr. K is giving, no matter how hard it is to watch, is going to be beneficial to me.

i think he's the type of guy who is afraid to be true to himself and feel loved, probably because of past trauma. his slippery attitude is kinda annoying, but you can recognize the man under that shell and it's a beautiful person. he just needs to crack the egg and discover himself.

He just lack confidence that's all.

@Tinny Foiler yes really lol. i know some people like this and it can be frustrating as hell.

hyun ass

I spoke the same way with my friends I've made from a kind of "self growth" college club the first time we've met. Super defensive because I didn't want to seem vulnerable.

@@aDriveAway You do realize your own comment is just a projection, your projection. The hypocrisy is hilarious.

Yes, not having a girlfriend is not the "problem," but merely a symptom of underlying issues.

Lol then you get older and if you aren't financially stable you get fucked because you have no kids to take care of you, stfu... You are either blue pill or red pill, although red is technically better

As far as accolades go I would say consumer culture says it is about "Those things"

@@Bennahr_Fett But it’s not about the accolades, that’s the point. The feeling of not accomplishing something is bad, but the lack of hope of ever being able to accomplish something, paired with the feeling that you’re not doing anything to accomplish that thing is much, much worse.

@@iurigrang Dude no one is negating that.

If you accept what you’re being told immediately then you open up thoughts of doubt to what you were told in the future. It’s best to address all arguments right then and there

I assume overbearing parents and throw in a bad school life

"This is a good start." EXACTLY!!! I see a lot of doubters with the same issues saying Dr. K "didn't really help him" here. This is the start. The first fork in the road from a journey. A long journey that was colored by hopelessness for well over a decade. It's the same journey, he's still on it, but he finally had a fork in the road. You don't get to a better place without a fork in the road. This is good. He may still have a journey ahead of him. All the work isn't done yet. I believe in him though. This is FAR more progress than people unfamiliar with how the mind truly works could ever understand. If anyone thinks this was a bullshit session: "That is why you fail".

He thought his life was a tragedy but he realized it's actually a comedy.

I was cheering as well thinking about how he was processing everything and realizing he was essentially self sabotaging himself the whole time based on “evidence” he kept collecting and would also go out looking for. Which I think is the answer for why he didn’t fully give up, and would keep going to bars and clubbing m, and try speed dating, so he could add more to his confirmation bias of “I keep trying but it just doesn’t work for me”

@@DropIt56 I jump of my chair, fist in the air and a big smile on my face cheering for this dude and Dr.K. This interview was an experience man.

that was such a beautiful moment

Mhmm. I do it too. Hurts to hope y’know? Can’t fall if you’re already 6 feet down, right? Can’t fly either but why would you want to, right? It’s a hard mindset to get out of, but it’s not impossible

@@EtamirTheDemiDeer its interesting because I am in the total opposite of the spectrum. I am way too hopeful but my boyfriend has the same mindset as you guys… is there a way I can get to understand and help him get out of that mindset? I feel that he grounds my feet down to earth so that helps me be realistic, but I also would love for him to have hope for the best outcome, because it helps on the long run… I think.

@@kassyyar97 wow that was 10 months ago. Time flies, huh? Lemme tell you, a lot has changed. Every situation is different, but I'd say the biggest thing is being there For me, that mindset was a defense mechanism. Still is. But I finally left my abusive home situation, which was the cornerstone for the beginning of my healing. My person was there for me through all of it. You sound a lot like them. They let me cry and go in circles, they let me laugh and be honest. They loved me. And I loved them. Calling them 'my light in the darkness' or saying 'they gave me hope' feels a little trite but it's the truth. Now, you have to be aware of how much you're carrying too. You can't "fix people" and I know that's not what you're saying, I just want to be careful with what I say. Love does not cure all, sometimes love isn't enough. I'd say a lot of times love isn't enough, certainly wasn't for my folks. To me, love is communication, sometimes uncomfortable but necessary communication. Love is a choice. But... they make it an easy one You are the only thing you have control over. You can inspire and encourage change in someone, but ultimately it's up to them. For me, there was a little seed buried 6 feet down, one I'd forgotten about, one that I'd tried to kill. It took both of us nurturing it for it to bloom. I'm still rooted in the ground, but I can finally feel the sun on my petals and the breeze through my leaves. And when another storm or fire comes, I know I can grow again

@@EtamirTheDemiDeer I am so happy you found someone who gave you hope for the future! Once you reach bottom there’s no way but up, so please dont give up! He told me once that he is worried that his attitude and personality may annoy me or drag me down… so it would be best for me to just leave him… Honestly that hurt me, because he thinks way too lowly of himself… It hasnt taken a toll on me as of yet, but I know that everyone has its limits, even myself. We met each other in a point of growth, specially for him. He is trying to work hard on himself and this is just the beginning, I promised I would encourage him and listen to him through it all. I am planning on keeping that promise as long as he doesnt give up. I can already see a long road ahead of ourselves but I am sure it will be worth it in the future!

Friendly correction; I think you mean repeatedly and not repetitively :)

brilliant in what sense? did he win a debate? good for him. but the more important question is: did the incel guy's dating life change for the better after they had this debate? doubtful it did. "as a relationship coach" - are you a PUA scammer btw.?

@@InimicusTuus what's that?

@@Dave_of_Mordor someone who teaches PUA.

@@InimicusTuus Idk what that is

So how did he exactly help this man? Just make him cry once and that is it? He STILL 100% does not have a relationship in his life and probably never will. Man istg people like this Indian and other grifters are the worst capitalizing on emotions of the lonely insecure men. It is just pathethic.

I agree with this!

34:00 is brilliant

My therapist is a lot like him. She lets me talk, points out little things here and there, and then lets me talk more so that I eventually have these breakthroughs of realizing my problem and how to fix it. It's like she's guiding me into therapising myself, lol. I love it!

so american

??? what's american abt that

In an alternative universe: Fucking yes Dr. K i'm the smartest person in America, are you fucking blind or something?

@@90Aga you are just so British bro

At that exact point I was getting pretty fed up with Paul so that was a magical moment to hear Dr. K say that lol

This is all true. He's also basically a sociopath lol. I mean, maybe not in a bad way.

@@Bauernade Where did he talk about this? I'm curious about it and I'm new around here :) A link or video title would be really appreciated!

@@ket1507 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Hv-gxF7qoOI.html

@@fella11814 Dr. K is a sociopath? I think you mixed up the definition of it: "A sociopath is a term used to describe someone who has an antisocial personality disorder (ASPD). People with ASPD can’t understand others’ feelings. They’ll often break rules or make impulsive decisions without feeling guilty for the harm they cause." That does not seem like Dr. K or any psychiatrist.

Yea, it’s a subtle interpersonal thing, your brain sees someone smile and it determines that person is not a threat

Ram Kumar ye he should be a boxer with those dodges

LMAO

yeah very painful to watch but thats the problem with people who think that they are smart

you can be smart all you want and have no clue about whats happening with your emotional side

GongsunXin like Dr. K said, the smarter you are, the harder it is to overcome cognitive biases .

People using bars or nightclubs to find a significant other are looking at the wrong places. Usually it's a friend of a friend, at church (or similar places with social activities such as a sport/volunteering) or someone you met during your school/Uni years. Sometimes at your job too but less common. The reason for that is because you actually get to know them properly since you have to interact and that's where interest can grow healthy. In night clubs or bars, it's just if you look hot and have confidence... even then all you're getting is a one night stand. Dating apps fall in line with clubs and bars since they can be just as shallow.

Same! And I have immense respect for any adult who’s a virgin, whether involuntarily or not. There are a lot of people who wish they didn’t give it away so quickly/before a committed marriage. Imagine your spouse saved themselves and kept their body pure JUST for YOU! No potential STDs, no unplanned/unwanted children, and no constant fear that they’re comparing you to a previous romp or ex. Just enjoying each other as it should be. 😌 Some of the most toxic narcissistic men I’ve ever met are the typical Chads who boast about their “body count” like it’s something to be proud of. It grosses me out and evokes fear in me and pity for them.

@@jessitabonita it’s more about the emotional connection with the person.

Your virginity is not something bad, it's not a burden. The more sexual partners one has before marriage, the more likely they'll divorce. Why is that? Because when you get used to sex outside the proper time and place, sex outside the proper time and place becomes almost natural, then when you get into a marriage you never learned the discipline necessary for marriage and you more easily slip up and commit adultery. Promiscuity is a trap which breaks you and your ability to romantically relate, commit and build trust. It's possible for people who are used to sex before marriage to break the habit and escape the trap, but it's more difficult, it's a longer road for them. _That_ is a burden, not virginity, and you're saving yourself from that burden.

@@MutohMech 👏👏👏 Agreed! Very well written. It trains a person to basically be adulterous & impulsive, rather than faithful & self-controlled. It leads to nothing but spiritual destruction. 💔 God bless you with even more wisdom. 💛

man this resistance. But you know you found a good therapist when they identify this on the first session. Is like, finally someone that can make you understand.

Agreed. I would probably pretend to agree with the therapist when I probably didn't really.

He was being authentic to himself.. I respect that

Yeah, I would've just nodded and rushed to get off the line. I'm so glad I got to see the benefit of actually verbalizing concerns, skepticism, questions.

Only for the first ~15 minutes. After that equal conversation ended and for merely an hour there was only K and his script. Then he got tired and forced ending by discovering weak spot, crushing it and yelling at man. Hitting next weak spot (no one smiled him back on speeddating?) breaks him. Literaly lvl2 vs lvl10. With the proper "gg ez" (1:13:22) and "This one was pathetic, bring me the real one" (1:38:25)

@@МихаилВолков-л2я mmm, interesting take. He is a RU-vidr after all, so he probably does like the sound of his own voice 😂 (not a criticism) I’m not a therapist, so I might be talking crap, but I guess the question is whether this was good for the patient, or just good for views.

I'm finding this convo so jarring, only a little bit in... but the guy seems sweet hope he can meet a nice girl 👧 💓💜🏳️‍🌈

DR K and his comforting lies that won't help for shit in the real world... this guy can't even get a tinder match...A GF is beyond hopeless

@@jcransome5616 are you suggesting that getting a tinder match is easy?

THANK GOD SOMEONE ELSE CAUGHT IT. Truly a master at what he does.

Holy shit xD

The look he gives when it works is gold lol

Yeah that was elite, loved it.

@@shipley7263 what exactly did he do here

Lmaooooo

Look carefully! His sink is full of dishes!

@@ChoobChoob likely aired in the evening so maybe he had dinner before..

Yes, it is to attract a lone Trad Woman into his habitat. It's a mating call called The Kitchen Posturing. What a fascinating creature..

Thats what zero pussy does to a guy

Pretty sure he notes some points down

Nicholas tornak

@@nicholas1867 that's the tough part... knowing what to take note of.

@@meetlawf3238 basically advanced real-time critical thinking

@@randomguyonstreet586 a skill lost on most people in the modern age sadly

hes coping hard bro

@@LilSadge-w5d your apathy is just a response to all the negatives.

only reason Dr K is getting more audience is interviewing the likes of reckful etc. Not everyone knows him but yes i agree.

This stream had more viewers than the big streamers during that same week.

I have found the streamer videos more helpful than random people. I am just an average guy and a lot of the streamer issues hit home to me. Streamers are just people doing a different job that doesn't mean they are not human with very relatable problems. "edit" Commented before I watched and Dr K said exactly what I was saying but better in the first 10 mins of the video. People are just people not a class ect. "edit 2" Watching more into this another reason I think streamers help me is that they are use to talking all the time on stream. "average joes" like me get flustered and lost easier which watching someone else like that can make it hard for me to watch and absorb the information.

nah more like you can reap more revenue to people who can relate to the issue at hand

I feel like people who go to the twitch channel are looking for those big names to be on. However, I mostly catch healthy gamer on RU-vid, and this attracts me more than him talking to other streamers. I feel like this would be good for the RU-vid audience, while the big streamers would be for the twitch audience

​@@StevenMacQuarrie You aren't kidding. I've promoted this channel to anyone who will listen. It is genuinely one of the best uses of a platform anywhere on the internet.

Med school reject people? Thought they looking for people since no one wants be in medicine.

This motivates me to not give up my neuroscience dreams after just 4 Thank you Dr. K

I assume you at least did not understand what “several” means when you posted your comment. He has helped many people, not just several.

@@transcendent7lucidity 🫠

That shit cracked me tf up

@@kaniza1465 bRuTaL

Ain't nobody got time for that 😂 I'm becoming decrepit by the minute.

Why its so"Jesus Christ"? If you cant get girl, then you just cant get girl. Like it can be 10 years, or just forever. Yes its possible somtimes with hand of luck, but... As example I first get girl in my 34, and next 9 years i have just 4. I live no lifesyle where girls can be. I dont do enough money, i'm far not pretty, i dont like people and conversations to much. You can logically assume that this condition will basically stay, and just go worst with getting older.

"i was speed dating next week, whats the point of that"

I think he’s just a terminally disagreeable person. He disagree in even the most simple and basis things. If you told him the sky was blue, he’d respond “well actually….” This seems to be one of his biggest issues. He’s addicted to disagreement. Even when people align with him, he’ll just turn around and flip his opinion

Agreed. It was a little frustrating to watch despite wanting to applaud him for being so honest. He genuinely has this tendency to disagree with absolutely everything he was presented with​@@EggEnjoyer

@@EggEnjoyer Agreed. He has a very long road to go. His defenses are wayyyy up, and that includes his ego, it's sky high. Even when he came to a massive self realization and broke down, he felt like he had to defend himself, "Isn't this what you're after? Making me break down for a good show? Well congratulations, you did it, you won." He felt vulnerable, and he felt like he had to bring Dr. K down with him as a defense. I feel like finding a girlfriend is the least of his problems. If he somehow found a girlfriend the way he is right now, I can only imagine what she has to deal with.

@Tinny Foiler you think only outgoing people have girlfriends, or that all women are outgoing?

@Tinny Foiler if you never meet anyone ever you have deeper problems than the lack of a significant other. Just as Paul needs to get rid of his self destructive mentality and gain confidence you might need something else, but what that something else is you'll have to figure out yourself. I also am not an outgoing person whatsoever and yet I've met people through Steam, through school, friends of friends and so on. No need to go out of your way to bars or clubs or places where you're not in your element. Just because you are introverted does not mean you can't or shouldn't have friends.

So true dude.

@Tinny Foiler You're right that it's a very low chance of meeting women if you are just on the computer unless you are in an environment in which you can meet them. Otherwise, you would have to search elsewhere to increase that probability. However, I don't believe that you need to be "completely free of anxiety" and/or an "outgoing person". Anxiety isn't something you get rid of easily since you're only human, it's something you need to be aware of yourself and accept/own it without repressing it. You can like being quiet and do your own thing, that's completely fine and people have accepted as a part of themselves. Sure, you can absolve yourself from any uncomfortable situation, it depends on how much you truly want to have a girlfriend. If you really wanted a romantic relationship, you would need to express interest in changing in that case, not in the sense that you are trying to become an entirely different person, but actually evolving your current self by fixing underlying problems and/or strengthening your strong points or even trying to understand yourself. For example, if I was a mage and expressed interest in fighting in the front lines without changing class to a warrior, I would spec my stats elsewhere to become a mage tank or combat mage in order to help me do that The reality of meeting someone and getting into a relationship is that you will be put into uncomfortable and inevitable situations, it's a matter how you respond to it. You aren't obliged or forced to do anything that you don't want to do . You can still be an introvert and still be able to interact with people. It would be even tougher to start a relationship without any form of interaction At the point of desiring physical relationships, you gotta meet people halfway because sometimes things don't just fall in people's laps. When you don't try, you should determine whether it's something you really want or if you just think it's going to fail no matter what you do Based on Paul's experience and that he came to talk to Dr. K, this shows he expressed interest in changing because he wants a relationship. However, Paul has an underlying problem.. his self destructive mentality of hopelessness, which burdens him and his social interactions. As emphatic as we are, we can sense that he was uncomfortable and when he was "slippery" by him finding evidence that it was hopeless. It's not going to be easy in the long run, working on his inner self would be a good step in the right direction, but it's far from a solution. The fact of the matter is that there isn't one specific solution that will solve everything. You would need to slowly level yourself up

*"I realised that my mind convinces itself to not even attempt at making a change because I draw a lot of comfort of staying the same."* So much power in that portion of your comment. One of the reasons we all struggle so much with our personal issues is that right there. Refusing to acknowledge that we are actively engaging in self sabotage by not trying despite the lack of reason that accompanies not trying to improve oneself whilst being dissatisfied with current issues we have. I am guilty of this too.

He’s said he works counselling here and there, maybe worth a try to contact him

His problem may not be solved just by changing his mindset. If he had the correct look he would have already have a gf. Maybe ask yourself if his look didn’t create is situation in the first place. You should read more about Lookism discrimination... You don’t have to hate women to be an incel ... Most men are incels without realizing it ...

Right? Is fascinating

There is lot of good professionals out there

@@Lo-to7zh it's not about the looks, it's about social skills and upbringing. I know a dude, who had and still has lots of girls (fucked up his marriage, but nevertheless), and he's short and quite overweight (I'm two heads higher than he is, also slightly overweight, but quite strong, and he still weights 10 kg more then me), but he's extremely good at talking to people. And it's me, who newer had a girl, and I know what exact mistakes my parents made during my upbringing (some hormonal issues didn't help either, were fixed, but the time was lost), but couldn't overcome all of them yet. As an example, I thought that mentioning to a female acquaintance/friend that you noticed her changing a hairstyle was rude as "that's none of my business", turned out that it is extremely delightful to them. And many other things like this. That friend told me lots of tips and tricks on how to manipulate women, their desires, e.t.c. But that does not help if you feel awkward around them, and can't strike up a simple conversation (unless she is a college, and its work related). Also if you live in a country where prostitution is legal, and you can easily afford their services, but don't want to, are you also considered incel?

But how can u be so sure it's not the truth? I have these negative thoughts and I've considered its maybe just my brain but I'm convinced they're real.

@@tweeze123 Because every time I did an investigation, I found no actual evidence that what I was thinking was true, or likely to happen. What I found was a lot of lies and manipulation from my childhood, which had been used to control me. It comes from fear based control, and it works very well. Someone else has managed to convince you that your negative thoughts are based in reality, but take a good look, search for some evidence for yourself, every time, ask yourself 'is this true', and unless you can find absolute solid evidence that it is, you are safe to ignore your negative thoughts and feelings.

​@aseed89 what worked for me was imagining if my closest friend or my Grandma/grandpa (someone who lives u) would say that about me. 99% of the time they wouldn't, so it's just the intrusive thoughts

What if everything I belive keeps being proven right?

Really made me get slightly choked up when he could finally start feeling comfortable with himself, and answering questions. It’s like he transformed positively right before my eyes.

I'm only 13 minutes in but so far he's really annoying in my mind. I hope he gets better

@@mikemurphy5898 Please watch the whole thing, I implore you. I’m so emotional as a male virgin myself. I didn’t know people like me felt so bad about themselves like he did. It was really comforting as I watched on and see how he changed.

We need to start preaching being confident without being MODEST about it MODESTY is toxic af after a while bc we keep ourselves short of the full praise we know we deserve want desire. Dammit we all got an ego. What’s wrong with being confident? I don’t want to preach arrogance or stepping on others to make yourself feel better but

@@r011ing_thunder6 what do we deserve and why?

unironically thinks this man is a doctor. yep the world is really coming to an end.

@@lakvadtrorubre5021 You mean the guy that's faculty at Harvard and worked in an emergency room for years?

@@j.p.westwater2334 implying hospitals are anything but a scam in 2020. its called affirmative action btw this pajeet is 90 iq max no way he could be a doctor in pre zog america.

@@lakvadtrorubre5021 You should start a RU-vid channel, you seem to have it all figured out mate.

@@lakvadtrorubre5021 Wtf do you mean… doctor doesnt mean health specialist you dumb fuck it means having a doctorate. Which he has. Clearly you"re not the sharpest assault riffle in the school.

@Togapower I disagree. I think you missed many points. Maybe you are a master at that.

Togapower he got to a lot of great points you’re just too thick to see them

@Togapower umm, did you even listen to any of what they were saying?

@Togapower Kid, they are making fun of you, and you are still missing that too.

@jewboy You think that one or two sessions are enough? Oh, boy.

People like him often face the most rejections from institutions, because they go against the normal and do things differently.

man i dont know. He felt like really passive aggressive and not pleasent being around him . But yeah he was talking about his deep problems so maybe he is not like that in normal life scenario

@@maros495 That doesn’t seem to describe behavior that is misogynistic nor antisocial. Low expectations can be protective barriers against stinging disappointment.

I am a miso antisocial freak

It's mostly confidence. The least attractive thing to women is desperation so when they do get to talk to a woman they ruin it by acting desperate. It's a vicious cycle because each failure makes them more and more desperate. They have hope when they eventually give up and thus stop acting desperate or meet a woman in a situation they are confident in like one of their hobbies.

@@manners7483Working on yourself, your mindset and becoming a healthier happier person is the key to bringing good things into your life. A person's who's idea of of happiness is having what they want or believe happiness is something other people are supposed to give them, rather than something which comes from acceptance and understanding within yourself will never find true happiness. negativity is generally just another habit people have gotten into over time. The key to changing negative thoughts is to find out where they are coming from and then change your reaction to that. If they are coming from fear, you would need to find out what the fear is based on and address that. If they are the result of criticism or abuse and invalidation in childhood, that needs to be processed so that you can move on. After you address the root cause, you can break the habit and change your reaction to situations that are going on now. It's not always as difficult as it sounds. Often once these things are faced, their power over you becomes greatly reduced. So much of what we are and what we do is habit and learned behavior, even how we react emotionally. That's one the best things about it, because habits can be broken and new ways can be learned. There is no reason to personalize the behavior of others, especially in situations where the facts don't support that conclusion. All it really takes is awareness and a willingness to challenge yourself. One of the key things that is required to change any type of behavior or thinking pattern is challenging conclusions so you can decide if you are being reasonable and realistic or not. They are not able to perceive things realistically and they cannot even formulate - let alone withstand - any challenges to their conclusions or beliefs anyway. Challenging your thoughts may seem odd when you are not used to it, but people usually see the benefits of doing it pretty quickly. You might be surprised when you learn how much of what we all do is really just a habitual reaction - even our own thoughts and how we think. It's so empowering to learn that because it means that you can change it if you don't like it. And seriously, is there anything more powerful than that? Practicing gratitude has great benefits . People who practice gratitude are: Less self-centered, Less judgmental, More generous, Happier, Less depressed Because of the society we live in, many people have come to believe that getting or owning more things will make them happy, or that a perfect romance is going to come along and complete. People are looking outside of themselves for validation and completion. And they are not finding it, because the truth is, if what you already have doesn't make you happy, what makes you think more will? This is where practicing gratitude comes in. It's learning to appreciate and be grateful for what you already have. Not just material things but also spiritually, emotionally or any other way. There are so many things, from the big to the small, for which to practice gratitude. If you ate today, you can be grateful you ate, because so many didn't. If you didn't eat, you can be grateful you can breath when so many others cannot. Every day we are alive and walking around on this earth is a day to practice gratitude. There are so many amazing things about life and living. If someone only ever focuses on what they don't have and what they can't do, they will always be unhappy. There is always something you can't do. There will always be things you don't have. If you can learn to be happy with what you already have, everything else is a bonus. A lot of these bitter men incel types would qualify for a diagnosis of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. They are perpetually resentful of everyone else. They feel entitled to some form of glorious success at a level that they are unable to achieve. Instead of taking stock of themselves and trying to find goals that they are capable of reaching with their talents, they compare themselves to people who are much more successful than they are who have a very different set of skills. Then they explain the disparity as somehow not being their fault, somehow they were cheated by life and other people out of success -success that they have never done anything to earn. -They are angry with the world. -They feel cheated of their success . -They want to be “Alpha Males.” -They believe that they deserve to head a company without any relevant experience. -They compare themselves to very successful people and reason: “I am just as smart as he is. Therefore, I deserve to be just as successful as he is. As I am not as successful, I have been cheated out of my success.” - They blame other people or the unfairness of life for their lack of success. -The single males believe that they deserve the most beautiful females, despite looking only average themselves. -They are nasty, cruel, and spiteful to their romantic partners. - They do not reflect on their own part in creating their life situation or take any responsibility for their lack of success. Because this subgroup of Narcissists rarely have access to enough validation to shore up their shaky self-esteem, they walk around perpetually feeling inadequate. Here is their basic pattern. -They never achieve success at a high enough level to satisfy their grandiose fantasies. -They feel inadequate. -They then find a way to blame other people or circumstances for all their failures. -They resent everyone else’s successes. -They envy what other people have. -They can never feel satisfied. -They are bitter and complain constantly to whomever will listen to them. -They treat other people horribly. There are few things more pitiful and unpleasant than people with Narcissistic Personality Disorder who lack the brains, talent, and social skills to get the narcissistic supplies that they crave. Elliot Rodger. is an excellent example of Narcissistic Personality Disorder, and how destructive and dangerous it is. Narcissists believe they deserve whatever they want just because they want it, and if they don't get it they react with rage.. Narcissists will go to whatever lengths they have to in order to get what they want and so often - as we see with Elliot Rodger - what they want is revenge. They believe they have been wronged and they react with rage when the world does not give them what they want. They take pleasure in hurting people, especially those who care about them. The goal of the narcissist is literally to destroy/ It is very fortunate he never found a girlfriend; he probably wouldn't have killed her so long as she did not leave him but her entire existence would have been absolutely miserable. The narcissist has a vicious, sadistic Superego (the part of a person's mind that acts as a self-critical conscience, reflecting social standards learned from parents and teachers) that attacks him all the time with horrible, terrible things: "You're worthless, no one likes you, you're scum, you're a terrible person, there is nothing good about you..." They create a False Self to hide that, which is why they seem so arrogant, etc. But they are under attack by this Superego all the time, nearly every second, and so when they find a partner, this narcissist takes all that sadistic viciousness they are hearing from the Superego out on the partner to make themselves feel better. This is the only way they have to make themselves feel better and because of this, they are never going to stop doing it. You cannot make them see they are doing this; it's a defense mechanism. They have to believe their partner or others around them really are terrible people. It's essential to their whole being as a person and they cannot stop. More importantly, they don't want to stop. They are truly evil people who literally desire to destroy others because they are jealous and believe that other people have things (love, sex, material things, popularity) that they (the narcissist) are being purposely and spitefully denied. They are not truly people in the strict sense of the word. That is why a lot of people have the same reaction to narcissists as they do to very human-like androids. People can accept and even like androids, so long as they do not seem too human ). But when an android seems too much like a human , people often react with revulsion, disgust and even fear or panic. This is called the uncanny valley hypothesis and it is the same reaction you often see to a narcissist; people aren't sure why they feel that way but something just feels "off" and it's a strong feeling, so strong that usually after an encounter or two, many people will stay away from the narcissist. This probably explains why even though he was good looking, smart, well-off and personable, Elliot Rodger could not get a girlfriend. This is the "alien" aspect of the narcissist and we see it over and over again; people can see that something is not right. They are sensing that the narcissist is a fraud and not a real human being at all. Others often cannot articulate what it is they don't like about the narcissist - who usually seems to be the picture of friendliness and sincerity - they just know they don't like it.

If your going to suck at something why not be the best at failing at it lol makes you a sad hero troupe in a sense and some romanticize being a victim

Cognitive bias in a nutshell

@Jaime Ares lol, as if having sex fixes anything. IT doesn't.

@Jaime Ares It doesn't. I've had plenty of girlfriends in my life, got a serious 6 years relationship, and somewhat, still feel just like this guy. Is not as simple as having sex or being loved. It's a really deep issue.

Superiority and inferiority complexes are two sides of the same coin.

It's absolutely cathartic

Joker noment

Was listening this to my ride back from work. When it got to that moment I had tears, was clapping, and cheering for Paul looking like a weirdo in my car. Loved it

Interesting. This moment was painful for me.

The way Dr. K put it was just so raw

Teehee

teehee indeed@@icomefromoogaboogaland

Sex is exploited to sell everything, but women got men over barrel and the law can get u by the 🏀

​​@@icomefromoogaboogalandUnhinged response lol

@@kiiseanrobinson5084😂😂

yeah, that was beautiful

No. Not If you cum awkwardly prematurely. Then you will become worse. Sex ain't gonna solve anything if it's not done right.

@Jaime Ares the only thing that sex actually helps with, is realizing that sex doesn't matter half as much as you think it does as a virgin. Sex isn't some kind of magical cure

@@Futurepointmusic FACTS. I've had sex, I've had relationships, I've even given and received real love. I'm still MISERABLE at times. BUT!!!! I'm no longer chasing something external to solve my problems. I've turned my attention inward and I'm working on myself. I'll be happy to turn my attention outward again and seek intimate relationships sometime soon. I just need to try and address, and maybe fix (maybe not), some of the things that I THOUGHT relationships would automatically fix. I know I'm capable of having the relationships I want. I also know the challenges I have with attaining them are all in my head.

@@amphibeingmcshpongletron5026 greatly put, that sums up how I feel at the moment pretty well. Good on you for looking inward, I'm sure you will be able to find what you need

The thing is... I get the feeling that actually make it worse..

Not everyone is unique. The idea that you have to be unique and special is very immature. Imagine if every single person had some unique never before seen problem. That would be an impossible mess, and psychology wouldn't be able to exist. Other people, maybe a thousand, maybe a million, are going through what you're going through. And there's nothing wrong with that. We're all human. Many people share this guy's problems and thoughts. Many people fit the more hateful and ignorant incel archetype.

@@JackBlack-fs3so You realize you're unique just with you DNA right ? So why can't you be unique and also relate with others problems ?

@@JackBlack-fs3so you are thinking wayyyyyyyy too deep into it

@@manuelantuna26 Yes people will make up words for you or force their own labels on you.

XNaturalPhenomenonX Because reality sucks

its a core aspect of reality, and that statement only seems weird to people who've had their every whim satiated since birth (most first world people) Hopelessness, depression, sadness are all inherent aspects of being a finite organism. Its only a problem when you imprint upon those feelings and allow them to marinate in your psyche & allow those thoughts to impede progress.

You might be interested in the term of "learned helplessness" - basically if an elephant is tied down when he's young to some small chain, even when he's really big and large and able to break it after countless failures he'll still think it's impossible and won't try.

The man in this image is probably not feeling hopeless: i.pinimg.com/originals/dc/8e/3f/dc8e3f227f1f97f25a17ad925f3a7f57.jpg

Honestly I think that people need to start realizing that we are all traumatized in many ways that we don’t realize, I really think we need to unearth and grieve that shit

if that doesnt blow everybody's brain you doing it wrong ^^

I had this revelation the first time I nut in my petite, blond bimbo’s mouth😝

Yes it is wtf hahahahhahaha i guess we just know things with our kidneys or something

@@RedPlaystationController facepalm

I know Jesus. He is the truth.

Me too. Respect bro!

Hope y'all are doing well. Dr. K is an absolute champ and I feel like I learn a lot from watching these.

that's what this entire channel is

@shiO one day at a time my friend, one day at a time

@shiO Read 'How to Win Friends and Influence People' by Dale Carnegie . Force yourself and talk to people .

It's extremely common. My therapist told me to do things, then just left me to my own devices. Nothing of what he told me worked. There's a reason for why the stereotype of therapists being useless people who just prop you up with meds exist, because it fits the description of, sadly, quite a lot of therapists.

@@nils191 Maybe that therapist wasn't right for you but from the very limited information they didn't give up on you, therapy often involves homework. I think its important for everyone to understand that therapist are people and you have to find a person you vibe with to get good therapy. If you're therapist doesn't think they can help you they can do the professional thing and refer you to someone they think would be more suited to you.

​@@ilyem999 I'm aware. Therapists aren't magical humans with godlike reagents who can somehow magically cure you of all ailment. Majority of the time they just either don't fit you, or you're being very closed around them. What I am essentially saying is that therapists has this general stereotype because of personal expectation, and general history with fairly incompetent therapists among a minority of former clients. Because sadly, incompetence in the medical field is scarily common. I mean, when I suffered from obesity my doctor used BMI as a measurement- Even though BMI doesn't account for musclemass or fat-%, and therefor doesn't give an accurate portrayal of the actual issue.

I am a psychologist by my first degree and I felt both sadness and anger. Angry because the therapist clearly failed him and sad, that it made him feel even worse about himself. I am only 20 minutes in but already I can see that Paul has low self-esteem for clear and understandable reasons and that isn't at all unfixable. He just needs to understand his self wroth and all the great things that make Paul Paul. He is intelligent, perceptive, brave, orderly and has a good sense of humor.

It clearly affected him, even if it was years later.

I think he cried because se felt hope, he never felt that way before. Then he laughed at his own reaction or how happy he felt at that exact moment.

@@nicolasmiranda932 I think he had a bunch of repressed emotions and when he thought there was a logical reason to, he let them loose for a while, then realized his release wasn't really to do with what the Dr said and repressed them again.

He didn't feel doubt, but relief from it. There was pure joy, and probably an uncomfortable feeling of vulnerability. Not just because he is in front of the doc, but the internet. A wall was broken, both external and internal. I'm not sure if you are trolling. But, like the doc said, a lot of confusing emotions. Ok, I puased teh vid around 1:18:12 After that the old doubt really started back in; quckly rebuilding and patching the walls.

And you want to have sex with him for that? No, so the guy is right to be skeptical. It's all pretty unpractical advice.

Alex thedeal This is such an odd take from this comment.

@@Razzer_racer Maybe. I'm just trying to think what is really helping thig guy? That is practical advice on how to meet and then communicate with a woman. You cannot convince him he's normal or attractive or that there's nothing to be afraid of. What's also very important is that he talks to women where he might have a chance...just trying to be practical instead of saying things that sound good but in reality are useless..

@@alexthedeal1827 I feel there's a lot of assumptions packed into your comment. Like, in what way is the advice being given not practical? What does the term practical mean to you and in what way does or doesn't it apply to the advice given in the conversation?

@@slippereend I can see how you liked it..

and you can see the little eyebrow raise he knew what he was doing lol

That was a power move

@The elephant In the room if you look right after he starts talking when he takes a drink, dr. does a little eyebrow raise

@The elephant In the room in the video! its worth the watch! ;)

Silence is very powerful. It’s also used heavily in sales.

It won’t help anyone. What this guy needs is a real physician-patient relationship with a licensed therapist. He doesn’t need live twitch “therapy sessions” for thousands of people to see where the focus is not solely on him and there is not guarantee for a long term treatment plan.

​@@davidmurphy6376 well doohhh.

@@davidmurphy6376 Yeah... because that has helped him before, right? 🙄

I think it was his mind finally freeing itself from all the “cognitive bias” he spoke of. I feel like it was manifesting into something terrible until the Dr. finally got him to open up. When you feel lonely, those thoughts build up to a point where they’re almost unstoppable, but when you have someone to help free your mind of those thoughts and not make you feel that way it can be magical; hence this case here.

I started laughing with Paul in the same confusing manner. In that moment I was Paul.

Y'all dellusional lol

@@hi._.golgo137 How so?

He truly has a beautiful smile. His entire face lit up. He is adorable and sweet. A girl who can see him for the treasure he is(& i am sure there are many) is worth the wait. He may one day be very thankful he hadnt had whatever he thought he wanted when younger. We grow and change and realize that what we thought we once thought we wanted, wasnt healthiest or best for us.

Good comment I have a tremendous amount of pain from rejection and not being good enough. Reading, praying and lifting weights helps but it is hard to overcome your internal voice.

Timestamp for tears = ?

@@cristianm7097 1:15:00 - he laughed genuinely, Dr. gave him a low-key compliment, then that made him cry and laugh and cry and laugh. Was a nice moment

What is this bunch of cope? "Emotional center" lmao no he is cooked in my opinion bcs of his looks that fucked him up throughout his whole life.

@@Trahzy wtf

Also his preconceptions about what therapy “should be” and what the process would be like were interesting.

I hear you, i was single and a virgin till the age of 26. Firstly i'll say you're still young, got plenty of time for relationships and sex. Try and understand many people, and many women feel ths way too. I found me and my first girlfriend connected over the fact we both we very hard on ourselves, and tried to help eachother through it. However a partner will not solve those issues, although they can support you, your true confidence will come from yourself.

I'm almost 30, still like this. But like you, I never blamed women for that. I know it's me and the fact I live very much on my own. I don't go out much, I don't go to school or work due to some mental challenges, which is where you meet a lot of folks. As a result i'm mostly living on my own. I handle that pretty well but it did result in me not knowing/meeting a lot of people which caused me to be pretty lonely in that regard. I know i'm the problem, it's just incredibly hard to somehow turn around a life you've lived your entire life.

Can you time stamp his realization because i don’t have time to watch this episode in full

@@AcornRiot it is around @1:15:00 in order to provide some context, from that point, all the talk is beautiful.

@Hector Silva This whole interview shows you it's not just that simple, but sure continue to perpetuate false things like that

Antoin The Immigrant Very rarely are self-proclaimed incels described as having huge balls.

I almost cried aswell

I'm crying :(

Just like he says, when he laughs wholeheartedly like that, it is indeed very attractive ! I feel bad because he soon after crys. The two extremes are so tightly knitted, I hope he can find a healthy balance

damn i just dropped in out of nowhere on this timestamp and caught a tear in my eye

Wolololo

AOE?

@@BitterTast3 Area Of Effect. Like instead of healing a single person you heal in an area.

@@thefruityking6722 Oh ok thanks. I kept seeing AOE in this channel's comments and I'm a very casual gamer so I thought it might have been one of Dr. K's psychology techniques or something.

@anderson Well I used to think like you. I know that nothing I say will change your mind, but let me tell you this: There is still good in the world and people aren't all evil. If you consider yourself not evil then that is proof that there is still the possibility for good and justice in this world.

Perfectly put.

You're being slippery with your words; no offense. You say "people aren't naturally born anxious" and then continue with "many kids". This begs the question of if many other kids are NOT born happy and sociable.

Lol your first 2 sentences is literally me. Was a really outgoing kid in my early childhood. Nowadays I can't even bring myself to greet my neighbor

@@miesvaillanykyisyytta3252 thats because the amount of people who were born to naturally be anxious would be so miniscule in comparison to the number that aren't that it would be irrelevant to the conversation/original comment.

That's my thing. While you shouldn't allow anxiety to cripple you, shyness to an extent is a learned behavior from constant negative reinforcement. Men need to be bold? Attractive men need to be bold. The rest of us have been trained to know that we are unwelcome. I struggled with interpersonal relationships as a kid, but luckily as an adult people tend not to give you too much crap because they know you can punch them in the face. The rest is just being valuable person. If you're unattractive this won't help you get a relationship, but it will get you through the rest of life.

You’re absolutely right. Paul is one of the people healthy enough to put himself in the way of help, many others don’t reach the stage where we become aware of their problems.

Most men don't get compliments, praise, or emotional support.

The Austrian painter knew and cared.

@@RPGmario64 Definitely, yes.

@@D3xterJettster Men are overrepresented in violent crime statistics. Gee I wonder why especially women are cautious around them

>That's why he can't get the result So he is an incel.

​@Vale Sauce Incels are actually an idea completely opposite of the left. The left is in favor of sexual liberalism. Just like unrestrained economic liberalism, and for similar reasons, sexual liberalism produces phenomena of absolute pauperization . Some men make love every day; others five or six times in their life, or never. Some make love with dozens of women; others with none. It's what's known as 'the law of the market' Sex truly represents a second system of differentiation, completely independent of money; and as a system of differentiation it functions just as mercilessly.

@Vale Sauce If you ban birth control, abortion and all support for single moms + their children, you would automatically go back to a society with more sexual fairness. Right now it's probably the worst time to be alive ever in terms of sex/romance for young men.

@Vale Sauce Birth control is wrong? Thing is some women use it to help with the downsides of having a uterus. Like debilitating pain during menstruation, pain that isn’t lessened by the usual pain killers. I know that the crowd that watches these videos are mostly men and maybe you/them can identify with this video, but before taking up such anti female positions do your research. Oh and birth control does not equal abortion. Abortion is the termination of an existing pregnancy. Birth control stops pregnancy from happening in the first place.

@@DeDignity MOST people associate inceldom as right-wing men, and all the stereotypes associated with said culture. Maybe even alt-right depending how toxic the behavior is.

> You've changed his life in an hour an 15 minutes How would _you_ know?

@@mandokir Well look at him wdym

@@lizardltd Delusional

BS

@@cristianm7097 What's BS? That he changed his life? That I'm crying? That it's inspiring to watch?

Same, I was nearly an hour in and went looking for something else to do but the "raving reviews" down here made me watch the rest

You have little patience and shouldn't procreate. You'll raise shitty people.

@@nicelypenn ???????????????????????????

@@nicelypenn who hurt you?

@@1995.hondacivic Doesn't really matter if I have been hurt or not. If OP feels the need to share the fact that they shouted out loud with exasperation because they believed that Paul wasn't listening and that they have little patience, then they clearly should not have kids. Imagine if their kid(s) had a personality just like Paul's or some other personality that OP has "little patience" for. Will OP require guidance from a comment section to not be an asshole to their kid? Should be obvious that some people don't think like other people. To construct a negative disposition toward someone just because their personality is not yours and you find their personality annoying is alarmingly frightening.

yeah same thing

I got it yesterday on the stream. Today my brain just hidden every emotion and truth I got the day before. Time to give cbt a try cuz clearly our brains are disconnected from reality.

That's the first thing I realized when I got my first girlfriend. It didn't actually change anything. Now, not being being in a relationship doesn't bother me.

@@htoras_ I didn't ask to be made!

@@wincelet Don't worry bout it mate, none of us asked to be made, and all of us are going to die, just make the most out of it.