Tested! - Unlocking Bunker Tech 

Great research and video! Thanks for taking the time to do this!

Thank you for taking the time!

Great work i wish the devs would just give us at least estimated time when you hover on tech with just "estimated time ~1 hour" no need to be exact but just something

Its garrison activity (the stat you see at world spawn); people pulling stuff out and submitting new stuff continuously increases activity and increase tech rate. Any other actions that increases activity increases tech rate.

Legend says Freerk is still building bunkers to this day.

This is a great video. But like Legend said key component of tech in general is the garrision activity. I would wish for another Video in this same kind of style but everything around the garrision activity. For example what alot of people do is not just standing around and having their spawn to the bunker/TH but also "afk" Hammer on the healther bunker/Townhall to keep activity up. Like i said i enjoyed the video very much. Some things i wondered got answered :)

a) thank you so much for doing this, it clears up a lot of mystical thinking and will hopefully stop people from filling bunkers full of rmats. b) If the system is as simple as your data suggests, why couldn't the devs just *TELL US WHAT THE RULES ARE*? One of my biggest frustrations is the way the devs want the players to "discover how it works for themselves" rather than providing useful documentation for critical game systems. This philosophy doesn't make the game more fun, it just makes dedicated players like Freerk sit around on dev branch for six hours watching paint dry.

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Thank you for helping to spread testable results on this stuff! Of all the systems, Bunker Tech repeatedly has the biggest amount of misinformation on how it functions despite being a mechanic that existed prior to when I joined back in W61. Seeing your research into how to speed things up reminds me of the efforts I went thru trying to ask every warden vet what the rules were for speeding up Tech, and getting no straight answers. I also did tests in live and Devbranch (devs never sped up bunker tech back then) and essentially found the same things you found here: - Bunker bases get a flat 30% tech boost by having an internal supply value of X (around 500 of any factory good, like BMats or 7.62) - The act of submitting supplies to a BB has 0 impact on tech rate, but the player presence can indirectly. See next point. - BBs check for ‘minimum activity’, which can be as simple as players driving nearby or someone Setting Spawn and staying in the Hex. If the BB doesn’t get minimum activity, its Tech Rate gets reduced to ~10%. - Multiple Set Spawns on the same BB will specifically give a boost to Garrison tech, no matter what the participants vote for. This is because their Set Spawn activity is considered ‘extra’ beyond the default tech amount, and will boost the left-most tech People have provided back then (and even in these comments) other anecdotes about their secret tips to speed tech. In all the wars I’ve spent building ‘economic’ BBs for backline AI, I have never once seen any deviation from the above results. I’ve tried passing this along to various warden channels, but it never sticks for long.

You are awesome!

Thats insane lol I cant believe you had the patience for this but my absolute largest thanks for you. This makes me want to go test more of the wild ideas ive heard in the past since youve established a very solid benchmark. Things people have claimed speeds it up: - Idle hammering of the base itself (pretending like you're repairing it) but this probably doesn’t work because building itself doesnt seem to work. - Dying a lot and or actually respawning - Obviously setting spawn with more people - Submitting "high value" items like tech materials or rmats (probably doesn’t work because 32k scrap didn’t make a difference with 100 scrap) - Drip feeding crates of goodies (every 1 minute submitting a logi truck full of shirt/rifle/grenade/ammo crates) - Praying to markfoot

This video suggests that Freerk have written a Master Thesis at some point in his life.

Very nice. Another environment to test in which should be identical to live server is resistance phase. It is not hard to find out of the way places there as well. Some tests which reflect real gameplay but are missing are: 1) whether significantly higher supply value amounts (not just differing amounts of scrap) - for example, a truckload of 40mm ammunition crates - affect tech rates and 2) whether multiple submissions of the same total value, but over time, affect the rates (if there is a cooldown or maximum rate for submissions to count toward tech.)

My anecdotal experience is that tech speed increases with biomass activity when they set spawn on it. Unfortunately, that’s a luxury most builders don’t have on hand so that doesn’t really mean much. Might be useful for very large clans though.

Great Freerk video as usual, thanks for taking the time and sharing the test results.

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Great video, thanks for the work!

As an update, I tried submitting a truck full of items (5 crates of bmats and shirts, 2 crates of rifles and ammo, 1 crate of binoculars) every minute on the dot and still got a time of ~31 minutes. I also gassed myself in a bunker over and over again, respawning at the bunker each time, but no change on that either, still ~31 minutes.

There could be garrison activity thresholds with high, medium, low with which influence speeds. These thresholds go up with more spawns and repairers etc and usually tech faster. Seems like only bunker bases with deployment point show garrison activity and garrison size. Townhalls and relics always show garrison activity and low activity is required for world deployment. I would ask for another test, get X number of bob cores to have deployment point. Then connect X number to tech rings with 40 mods to start teching Storm Cannon tech. Bunker 1: Control (No activities), Bunker 2: Set spawn. Bunker 3: Set Spawn and Hammer bob. Bunker 4: Try to get lots of people setting spawn and other speed up activities. You can then see if Threshold changes states.

Nice and mythbusting video! I was told so many things about teching, that I was always curious if any of that actually worked. Of course, as you said, this was only dev branch and it's unknown if there are any other thresholds to speed up the process, but this already gave me a pretty good insight. #1 Submit something for better teching, 100 scrap seems the best, as you can get them pretty much everywhere and no one is pulling that out. #2 I alone could set up multiple bunker without the need to have people (me and other) spawn-assigned to them. I'm still curious if there are some undiscovered things about teching. I could think of: Timeout of faster tech due to decayed contribution (100 scrap only last for 1h and must be renewed to keep up the speed) or Any kind of Threshold to speed up with more players or more contribution. TL;DR; Thank you Freerk and krowt9r 😀

Just saying a guy in my friends regi says supplying a base with an amount of crates of shirts that is equal to the amount of vowels in the name of the nearest victory point speeds up the unlock by 50%

I asked Brett on FOD if he knew of anything that might be changing the behavior of bunker bases on Dev Branch specifically and he said that other than the acclerated tech speed, they should be acting the exact same as on live.

Freerk & krowt9r? Two ppl I love seeing on the battlefield testing the voodoo magic of bunker tech is a video I didn't know I wanted to see but I really did. I'd always felt like the amount of material submission + frequency + # of unique ppl played a part but I'm not as dedicated to testing this (though I am kind of inspired now).

Something that's not apparent, that i'd hoped you'd cover was an old adage i heard probably over a year ago. Setting spawn and voting / not voting on the tech and how much voting increases the research speed. The old adage i heard said that voting matters on the research speed, but it was proportional to the % of players in the sub hex that voted vs. didn't. An example of which would be if there was 100 players in your sub hex, and 50 of them set spawn and voted at your core, You would get 50% of the standard research speed. OR if you were the only 1 in the sub hex, and set spawn/ voted, you'd receive 100% of the standard research speed. You could test this by having 2 people in the area next to your bunker, and just get 1 to vote and see how quickly you get small garry, Then have both set spawn and vote, and see if the timer went from ~31min to ~36min. having one or both people in the same area setting spawn.

Thank you!

Thank you so much

What a chad, thank you for making this Vid

i wonder if further tiers need more submissions to have effect

Only thing i would wonder is if the activity starts a "Speed up" Buff on the timer. would submitting 100 scrap then waiting 10-15min then submitting another 100 speed it up? Just because each of the things that increase the speed seem to cut it by 10min. so is there a set time that any activity speeds up the research for before needing more activity? if not then theoretically one person setting spawn at a BB would give the best time for teching up all the way to max level. if I'm understanding the findings correctly

Things like this are the reason builders like myself are becoming more adverse to play Foxhole. There's just TOO MUCH AMBIGUITY in how ANYTHING works in this game, and requires extensive testing in AN ACTUAL WAR, because there's no guarantee the Dev Branch is accurate at all. And I wish this were the only thing wrong with the building system in this game, but it isn't. Impotent garrison AI is also frustrating, as you see partisan videos where tanks pull up comically close to an AT garrison, even if it's got a light. They just rush by the outer defenses, and then the AT garrisons can do nothing because their firing arch starts at 180 degrees, and only shrinks when you put other garrisons next to it. It's why I've become a fan of walls, because at least the partisan is FORCED to expend resources to get through. As long as you build them 35 meters away from facility items you want to protect, the enemy can't hurt it directly short of using artillery and mortars...which the howitzer garrisons bunkers have wouldn't respond to anyways! It's so frustrating, I wonder why I should even bother...

what if you submit 32k 8mm? :)

You did not scale the people though, did you? Test 1 Spawn vs. 5 Spawns, 10 Spawns and 30 Spawns? Also Test a Spawn + AFK vs. a Spawn set that then dies a bunch simulating Infantry Gameplay?

Test dying and respawning?