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Hey Dive fans & welcome to a different kind of episode for The Dive. Azael is recovering after a procedure & Kobe is out sick so the LCS Lounge - Raz, Emily, Jatt & of course Mark - crashed The Dive this week to chat All-Pro & playoff matches. Also they're in a swanky lounge to compliment the name.
We hear both sides of the Spica vs. Blaber debate, did the same for Berserker vs. Prince, why mid lane was the hardest All Pro vote & why the lower bracket this playoffs is the most terrifying yet
Thank you to all who participated in the #TheDiveLoLGiveaway. A Winner will be announced in the coming weeks! Until then, we'll catch you Thursday for the start of playoffs as Flyquest faces off against 100 Thieves at 2PM Pacific//5PM Eastern. See you then!
00:00 - Intro, The Analyst Lounge crashes The Dive while Azael & Kobe are recovering.
01:30 - All Pro Chat - "Mid Sucked Ass" Emily, How do you pick your #1? The Case for Emenes & Gori
21:49 - Top Lane All Pro, far more clear cut except when you debate the 3rd slot. Is it Dhokla, Tenacity or Ssumday?
31:41 - Jungler All Pro, the room is divided on the best: is Spica or Blaber? What do you value more in a jungler?
41:31 - Bot All Pro, the Berserker vs. Prince debate, which ADC is more impressive?
50:11 - Support All Pro, pretty clean cut, but why do we always overlook Zven? Can you give CoreJJ consideration?
58:01 - 100T vs. FLY, Playoff preview! Did 100 Thieves peak too early? Is the FlyQuest slump real?
01:08:45 - C9 vs. CLG, it should be clear cut... but you never know... is CLG actually the 4th best team in the league?
01:17:09 - GG, we were soooo optimistic... But can they bounce back?
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@jonart8433
@jonart8433 Год назад
This is just Marky Mark and the funky bunch
@whocansay2215
@whocansay2215 Год назад
Here for it, let’s have the whole analyst group with Kobe and Azael next week. Embrace cacophony!
@ugnrenegade
@ugnrenegade Год назад
bro Mark has been killing it on content this year and I love it.
@Xhalonick
@Xhalonick Год назад
It's all his handler (Pastrytime)
@dylo8123
@dylo8123 Год назад
mark over the last 3 or 4 years has gone from my least fav to fav member of the team
@imblackstar
@imblackstar Год назад
He griefed his all pro votes though all because he wanted to be edgy. If you remove the names, It’s clear who the best players are this split.
@minecraftitup
@minecraftitup Год назад
been a fan of Travis Gafford forever and seen Mark throughout the entire time, he's consistently bringing great tacts and funny moments of witt and banter to otherwise vanilla LCS content. Glad LCS production has taken a huge leap of faith in him and seeing it pay off
@SuperDemo19
@SuperDemo19 Год назад
​@@Xhalonick Pastrytime definitely is deserving a lot of praise, he's been working with MarkZ behind the scenes on a lot of the content he's been in this year.
@PhyrexianPraetor
@PhyrexianPraetor Год назад
Mark's the MvP of the LCS team this year
@PhyrexianPraetor
@PhyrexianPraetor Год назад
Was nice to see the analysts getting a more chill/less rushed bit of talk about the game (espec with jatt not being on the JLXP grind recently)
@NYCFenrir
@NYCFenrir Год назад
MarkZ pulling up the stats made me favor Berserker for MVP. Prince was the best in the first half but Berserker kept his stats consistently great the whole split.
@podefunder
@podefunder Год назад
Berserker was maybe better overall but Prince is for sure MVP. Berserker plays on a team where all of the players are top 2 in their positions, Berserker does not. And after the first 18 games, the teams finished tied. C9 without Berserker (replaced with some mid-tier ADC like Luger) is still very likely a top 2 team in the league, FLY with the same would be like GGS tier competing for playoffs. Imo you just can’t be MVP on a team with that many best-in-slot players unless you go extremely dominant like 17-1 or 18-0, not 14-4 which is on the lower end for #1 teams. And it’s totally OK to have one player be MVP while another takes 1st team all-pro, for example DoinB took MVP in Summer 2021 while Knight took 1st team all-pro, because Knight was individually the best mid and an insane laner/consistent carry, while FPX without Doinb hard-carrying literally couldn’t win games
@OMAR-vk9pi
@OMAR-vk9pi Год назад
@@podefunder ah yes impact Vicla and spica all bad 😂
@jc_09
@jc_09 Год назад
@@podefunder Prince isn’t winning MVP
@dylanroessler6810
@dylanroessler6810 Год назад
@@podefunder impact and spica are top 2 all pro and vicla could be 3rd wtf are you talking about lmao. Also Prince gets so much more resources than berserker. They always build team comps around him and feed him gold. Princes first half was massively overrated.
@mrbubbles188
@mrbubbles188 Год назад
​@@podefunder my man berserker plays on a team with top 2 players and not on a team with top 2 players 😂
@stephendinkler9851
@stephendinkler9851 Год назад
Whoever made that thumbnail needs a raise.
@kylechristenberry9061
@kylechristenberry9061 Год назад
ok for like 2 seconds at the beginning i thought emily's head was coming out of the chair and it was the funniest thing ever
@Gabriel64468
@Gabriel64468 Год назад
I thought Emily was poorly greenscreened in for a moment. Sitting on her legs+camouflage sweater is a broken combo
@StoicTheGeek
@StoicTheGeek Год назад
Yes, plus the fact that she is the smallest and furthest from the camera makes her a tiny disembodied floating head. Fortunately I generally just listen, so still get the great insight without the distracting visuals
@xtremo1killlercombat
@xtremo1killlercombat Год назад
She animation canceled her rendering so she saves on personal fps
@danfx86
@danfx86 Год назад
0:36 LMAO Raz! Garrison - South Park reference made me lol at work. My colleagues were staring at me.
@peterstevens5288
@peterstevens5288 Год назад
Jatt sounds like a pro player when buying items, prioritizing how he feels
@pn9043
@pn9043 Год назад
Great episode, love the new location, and the new hosts!
@longers1028
@longers1028 Год назад
Jatt with the AUDACITY to make a joke about Mark Zimmerman Experience when it has been over a month since he did a JLXP 😤 For real though, banger episode. Always love Emily and Raz (and Jatt too, I guess 😉)
@Planetman73
@Planetman73 Год назад
EMENES played 10 games this split, last spring CoreJJ played 11 games. Voting for Spring 2022: Emily- CoreJJ 1st Team All Pro Markz - CoreJJ 1st Team All Pro Kobe - CoreJJ 1st Team All pro Azael - CoreJJ 1st Team All pro Jatt - CoreJJ 2nd Team All Pro Raz - CoreJJ 2nd Team All Pro Feels like a double standard to me to omit EMENES for having 1 less game. Core's spring wasn't some amazing 1v9 support gap every game type performance.
@tombram875
@tombram875 Год назад
To me it doesn't really feel like a double standard because if EMENES had already played 6 LCS splits where he was one of the best mid laners they would have voted him 1st all pro
@imblackstar
@imblackstar Год назад
You are spot on. It’s a popularity contest. Total joke to the award. Emenes is clearly the best this split. No one cares he only played half the split
@TheCagedK
@TheCagedK Год назад
@@imblackstar jatt made it very clear that it’s a popularity award. Jojo at 3? I don’t think there’s an argument for him to be even top half this split
@jibbjabb43
@jibbjabb43 Год назад
How many games did CoreJJ die like 8 times on?
@stefanandrews5098
@stefanandrews5098 Год назад
EMENES is a new face to the LCS, CoreJJ took a World Championship and then dominated for like 6 straight splits leading in. If we had that much experience with EMENES, it would be easier to overlook this particular split’s shorter set of games
@nostalgiacorner1999
@nostalgiacorner1999 Год назад
Great episode! very good discussion
@mwaithephoto
@mwaithephoto Год назад
God I love Emily and Raz. They should do this set up more often
@Nespeon
@Nespeon Год назад
I've been waiting for an episode of The DiveLXP!
@tylazzaro9612
@tylazzaro9612 Год назад
Great episode was great to hear the debate.
@georgeogilvie-russell5967
@georgeogilvie-russell5967 Год назад
All of the LCS content this year has been so outstanding, really impressive. Already enjoyed the lcs content, but now it feels leagues ahead of the competition. Especially all the new stuff Marks been doing, always a blast to watch. We might get 7th at MSI, but were #1 in content.
@Pizzastealingninja
@Pizzastealingninja Год назад
It's good to see they're finally trusting Mark to take a more central role. They seemed afraid because he speaks his mind and doesn't worry about ruffling feathers, but I'm glad they're getting their heads outta their asses and recognizing that eSports fans aren't here for "professionalism," whatever that really means in the context of watching kids play video games competitively.
@HoHhoch
@HoHhoch Год назад
@@Pizzastealingninja 'eSports fans aren't here for "professionalism," whatever that really means in the context of watching kids play video games competitively.' Horrible take even if the conclusion is correct. Esports fans watch professionals play League for the same reason normal sports fans watch professional sports. To see the highest possible level of competition. Most gamers are going to consume their entertainment online and are a part of internet culture. Riot trying to be traditionally professional (I.E. as close as possible to a traditional sports broadcast) appeals to the wrong crowd, that's all. It doesn't have anything to do with 'kids playing video games competively'.
@Pizzastealingninja
@Pizzastealingninja Год назад
@@HoHhoch I think you're projecting your values onto the rest of the viewer base. I know so many people who just watch because it's fun. I used to be into it for the highest level of competition, but these days, I care more about how much of an enjoyable break it is from the rest of my performance-oriented life and career.
@Pizzastealingninja
@Pizzastealingninja Год назад
@@HoHhoch also, do you really think ANYBODY watches LCS of all leagues because they want to see the highest level of competition analyzed to the most precise degree? Lol nah fam, NA is cheeks
@C9LoL
@C9LoL Год назад
Berserker best ADC NA, no bias
@larryyau3088
@larryyau3088 Год назад
Mark and Emily are the greatest of all time. Always love their analysis and insights. Emenes definitely best mid laner so far. Gori is great, just needs a top laner. CLG generally lose because Dhokla loss condition. Busio looks like one of the brightest prospects LCS has had in a long time due to being so strong both offensively and defensively. FLY need Winsome back because Eyla is consistently out of position and plays much more defensively which affects all of FLY. Berserker has been one of the best adcs NA has had in a long time.
@timothyboush4767
@timothyboush4767 Год назад
Dude this group is so fun to just watch talk
@Gray-rl7yg
@Gray-rl7yg Год назад
THEY SHOuld rotate the other analysts in more for sure
@sykx7
@sykx7 Год назад
Absolutely in love with the new on air team. It took a bit to get rolling but they are now in stride. Get well Azael.
@astr_isk
@astr_isk Год назад
this gives throwbacks to Next Level, that was such a cool podcast. and Emily really shines in long form content!
@Jeff_Rekona
@Jeff_Rekona Год назад
Love the setting. Add a carpet for extra comfy feeling
@belancicm
@belancicm Год назад
that thumbnail is pure art
@TheCagedK
@TheCagedK Год назад
jatt having jojo as a top 3 mid this split is beyond delusional. I think he’s in a sophomore slump/not sure how sick he really is from covid but he’s absolutely sprinted many games this split. His veigar game mighta been the most clueless I’ve seen somebody look on a champion. In no world has jojo played better than gori throughout the split
@Gurpreet-sv5zg
@Gurpreet-sv5zg Год назад
There have been a lot of Jojo running it down win/loss games as oppose to Jojo played clean.
@Faith2202
@Faith2202 Год назад
Jatt admitted he just goes by feels it’s such a joke
@SquirrellyOtter
@SquirrellyOtter Год назад
​@@Faith2202 in Jatt's defense, the "feel test" is necessary because NA is a fucking clownfiesta region post Worlds last year. Even the undisputed best teams -- Flyquest and C9 -- absolutely threw games against lower teams that they should have crushed. It's been an entertaining split because everyone has been sloppy and unpredictable. But that means there's no definitive best player in the crucial mid position. It's indicative of a regional weakness -- trying to pick the best out of obviously underperforming players is a bad discussion to have.
@royalrumble444
@royalrumble444 Год назад
It might be just me, but I would be so down for The Dive to become a long ass podcast with Kobe, Azael, Mark, Emily, Raz and Jatt all at the same time
@mildlyinflammatory
@mildlyinflammatory Год назад
The least consistent player this season has been Jatt and his All-Pro votes, this is pure chaos lmao
@gniewkoneyman1084
@gniewkoneyman1084 Год назад
BANGER THUMBNAIL
@pokemonlightning1
@pokemonlightning1 Год назад
this variation of dive looks fun! the room looks like a themed escape room tho... is riot locking them up to make content....
@rischmoller1
@rischmoller1 Год назад
"With all that being said I agree with you C9 3-0" had me rolling bro
@CaptainFracture
@CaptainFracture Год назад
That thumbnail is nightmare fuel
@justin2173
@justin2173 Год назад
1st team: Fudge, Blaber, Vicla, Prince, Vulcan 2nd team: Impact, Spica, Gori, Berserker, Zven 3rd team: Ssumday, Inspired, Maple, FBI, Huhi
@jefftasticness5819
@jefftasticness5819 Год назад
prince over zerker is crazy and maple in top 3 💀💀💀💀
@justin2173
@justin2173 Год назад
@@jefftasticness5819 Prince had 21 more kills than Berserker. Maple was the #2 mid in fantasy lcs, could argue Jojo 3rd but he had quite a few games where he just inted
@EthanSlagle
@EthanSlagle Год назад
Jatt's lost in the sauce with those mid choices
@TheBigDeckClub
@TheBigDeckClub Год назад
This damn thumbnail. I’m dying 😂
@SuperSoyajin
@SuperSoyajin Год назад
Mark and Emily with the goated takes. Regarding the upcoming 100T vs FLY series, it feels like FLY is better as long as Vicla isn't running it down. But looking at FLY's last few games, that likelihood is pretty nontrivial.
@trido8930
@trido8930 Год назад
that Raz laugh to end it off was just *evil chefs kiss*
@diegomangino1865
@diegomangino1865 Год назад
Thumbnail is brilliant
@thedancingphantoms4004
@thedancingphantoms4004 Год назад
Moved over from Spotify. Cool to have a visual aspect as well
@ThatOneAsianKidlol
@ThatOneAsianKidlol Год назад
As someone from Alberta, can confirm Raz is correct. There are no snow days in Alberta...😅
@connoro842
@connoro842 Год назад
Is it me or has Kobe been sick a ton and missed episodes? Just want to make sure he’s okay but I’ve heard that like on 4 or 5 episodes this year
@patrickputnam1417
@patrickputnam1417 Год назад
Jesus - Emily digging deep with the "Lira on Envy". Love it.
@davidmottle6895
@davidmottle6895 Год назад
Absolutely none of my business, but is Azael a CPAP guy like me? I'm still in a line for the ENT 'widening' surgery. If that isn't it, disregard. If it is, I'm interested how his surgery went! (I'm interested either way, but I've been wondering about it for my sake too). Get better soon Azael!
@lostandfound587
@lostandfound587 Год назад
For 19:10 I actually saw it opposite to Raz, his team kept the game stable enough for him to carry and the fact that he wasn't able is a big x for me.
@joshb3024
@joshb3024 Год назад
Damn this is the imt equivalent of hosts.
@FizzLeeague
@FizzLeeague Год назад
Great interview. One thing - they said here that Closer is known for his play-off buffs. DL and Bjerg are definitely the same but better in that regard. Bjerg and DL's entire careers have been built on insane play-off buffs.
@CaptainFracture
@CaptainFracture Год назад
*bjerg carried DLs ass through play offs his last playoffs as well as spica stepping up immensely. Bjerg has been on a down turn in general but let’s not pretend he didn’t draw tons of bans almost every game of play offs in 2020 and STILL carry those games on his back
@jonjones8827
@jonjones8827 Год назад
@@CaptainFracture Wow what a DL hater. He was complimenting both of them as playoff performers. Why even make it about the 2020 playoffs specifically? You don't think DL has put in some clutch playoff performances through the course of his career?
@JMurph2015
@JMurph2015 Год назад
​@@jonjones8827 also playoffs was when DL actually started playing well lmao. DL's Senna went legendary against TL in 2020 playoffs. Some Bjerg fans just can't get past the "Bjerg and 4 wards" mentality so they blame any underperformance on literally anyone but Bjerg. Bjerg is a good shot caller and very flexible, but it's actually been like *years* (like 2018) since he's been really hard carrying teams. 2019 TSM missed playoffs and missed Worlds even with Zven/Mithy bot. 2020 TSM had BB (now on G2), Spica (now on FQ), Bjerg, DL, and Bio/Treatz. That team was kinda stacked by LCS standards (support was the one role they didn't really come to a satisfactory place on). 2021 Bjerg was retired and coaching. 2022 Bjerg was having a noticeably rough season on TL and missed Worlds.
@Gurpreet-sv5zg
@Gurpreet-sv5zg Год назад
@@jonjones8827 Internationally he's been a meme. 2020 words never forget when Kramer/Mark were smashing him in lane.
@GuilhermeSales09
@GuilhermeSales09 Год назад
This thumb is so great
@Penguinsrawesome21
@Penguinsrawesome21 Год назад
Fantastic thumbnail work xD
@ThierryGibralta
@ThierryGibralta Год назад
I don’t understand it, what is the reference?
@Anonymous-if7ue
@Anonymous-if7ue Год назад
​@@ThierryGibralta they're characters from zoolander
@ThierryGibralta
@ThierryGibralta Год назад
@@Anonymous-if7ue Ahhhh thanks
@GWindMagic
@GWindMagic Год назад
I'm just here being the astronaut in this rocket
@Dravor
@Dravor Год назад
the thumbnail is something lmao
@Rocketacoz
@Rocketacoz Год назад
Emily very based with the fully correct all-pro. Always a W to have her. Great episode!
@jerico1299
@jerico1299 Год назад
Emily is truly an icon. Always refreshing to hear her takes.
@Kosmisch1987
@Kosmisch1987 Год назад
I think Berserker is clearly the #1 ADC... Prince is very good too, but Berserker is more consistent
@Drdakr12
@Drdakr12 Год назад
Beserker is not cearly #1 adc same reasoning guma is not clearly 1 adc is korea. A better support makes a difference in laning phase and prince had support swap midway through season
@TheCagedK
@TheCagedK Год назад
@@Drdakr12 i think somebody could make the argument for prince over beserker even tho I think beserker is better. Prince’s mistakes in the latter half of the split was more than just laning phase. He struggled specifically against the rise of gragas and not respecting the flash combos/barrel.
@LuxusCharka
@LuxusCharka Год назад
@@Drdakr12 guma is clearly the best adc in LCK tho.
@bravepotatoe7513
@bravepotatoe7513 Год назад
@@LuxusCharka guma is clearly laning with the best player in the world
@LuxusCharka
@LuxusCharka Год назад
@@bravepotatoe7513 true, dosent change the fact that guma is the best adc In LCK though
@michaelbp_
@michaelbp_ Год назад
Zven>Vulcan. I'm surprised how close mid is for All Pro. Can't really pick one definitively this split.
@austinhenkel3569
@austinhenkel3569 Год назад
Palafox respect 🤯 unheard of
@josephmuir4189
@josephmuir4189 Год назад
Based Mark recognizing real talent in his All Pro votes
@B-RaD5oh5
@B-RaD5oh5 Год назад
Votes should follow the same format as the NFL does with pro bowl: 33.33% players/33.33% coaches/33.33% fan votes
@Tanktaco
@Tanktaco Год назад
No complications surgery pls, my LCS boi needs to be back :c
@imCylo
@imCylo Год назад
The Dive alternate universe
@RelaxingGolf
@RelaxingGolf Год назад
Toms Rhinopasty is a great shout raz
@FilterBySubgenre
@FilterBySubgenre Год назад
Raz really worked on his speaking skills, i remember back in the china talk days, he would stutter like a goblin!
@chaddude2
@chaddude2 Год назад
Putting Bjerg on this list should be a warcrime.
@ericalewiis4566
@ericalewiis4566 Год назад
We still haven't been blessed with the Zil+Vig combo!!!!.. time bombs!!! revives resets!!!. possible dbl zil ults on vig!
@ShufflinSkippy
@ShufflinSkippy Год назад
LFG we got Raz 🔥🔥🔥
@123rtXd
@123rtXd Год назад
i know this gets said every year about NA and then they shit the bed intl but i feel like there were actually 4-5 good players at every role this split. normally this is not the case for support/top/mid especially but id argue our mid pool is actually solid. top and support are fine but def better than usual. and ADC was wild genuinely 5-7 respectable ADs, and 4 respectable junglers.
@davidsato7898
@davidsato7898 Год назад
I think that those 4-5 good players must be in the same team for NA to succed. Other leagues are extremely top heavy, Korea has 1-4 clearly above the league teams (T1 obviously a step above, GenG, KT and D+), same as EU with G2 and probably VIT (even though they've been running it down lately) and China also with 1-3 above of the league teams (EDG, LNG and JDG) . So to beat those top heavy teams you need 1 or 2 teams that are really above the competition to have a chance. When they say EU was good in 2018-2019, thats not true, during that time only Fnatic and G2 were good, the rest of the teams were really average which made the season predictible but gave them chances internationally.
@123rtXd
@123rtXd Год назад
@@davidsato7898 i'm unconvinced that this is true for EU rn anyway but yea you are probably right. C9 arguably does have a genuine contender for best in their role in the league for every role right now though.
@Gurpreet-sv5zg
@Gurpreet-sv5zg Год назад
@@123rtXd Nah. Fudge no. Zven no.
@123rtXd
@123rtXd Год назад
@@Gurpreet-sv5zg besides impact maybe fudge is def best top. zven was 1 or 2nd this split although you courd argue other supports might be better long-term
@Gurpreet-sv5zg
@Gurpreet-sv5zg Год назад
@@123rtXd I think the issue with Fudge is we have seen him run it down in lane. C9 win in the end so it's glossed a lot. Fudge you could argue #2/3. A lot of times C9 have now won their games off of Emenes diff or berserker in team fights. Rarely have had the 2022 playoff games where the game has been decided off of 2v2 top side.
@cyandude8583
@cyandude8583 Год назад
HUGE DIVE BUDGET UPGRADE!!!!!!!!
@paullim3434
@paullim3434 Год назад
TheeMarkZ content rocket never stops 🚀🚀🚀
@jemjemmm
@jemjemmm Год назад
NOT THE THUMBNAIL 💀
@agentalberta6531
@agentalberta6531 Год назад
Is that just me or does anyone else thought that Emily was wearing a prank costume that's integrate into the couch?
@synxsnacks1552
@synxsnacks1552 Год назад
oh what hella early upload time
@Kaidyn04
@Kaidyn04 Год назад
Emenes has more deaths than kills and only played half a split. This narrative of him being an all star is actually insane.
@jonathanosuji472
@jonathanosuji472 Год назад
I was literally just thinking about when Emily would finally be on the dive then I click the video.
@charlesw7397
@charlesw7397 Год назад
No faith in CLG :o thank you analysts for guranteeing the CLG dub! Honestly think CLG will lose to C9 but I have faith that they'll beat EG
@ethanp5948
@ethanp5948 Год назад
Wait it's a hotline league/casters couch/rift reaction/jlxp crossover episode
@TheKaryo
@TheKaryo Год назад
pretty criminal how none of them have River 1st all pro especially after on mid all pro they counted River being so good against Gori
@njmontano1625
@njmontano1625 Год назад
No way River is better than Blaber and Spica this split.
@Gurpreet-sv5zg
@Gurpreet-sv5zg Год назад
@@njmontano1625 Spica has been awful and a huge reason they suck as well. River has to play with arguably the worst top laner in the league. Blaber always has a stacked team then becomes a walking meme internationally. River does not.
@viettran5139
@viettran5139 Год назад
Emily has finally found her true calling. Being one with the couch
@nunoteixeira2129
@nunoteixeira2129 Год назад
i think you guys miss on one important point, consider the worst case scenario that double and busio are worse worse than prince and eyla, does it mean they lose bot?no because playing bot is the combination of adc+support and in these recent weeks we have seen more synergy from 100t bot than fly quest which honestly has been going on a slump. To not even mention the recent teamfights of flyquest and the C9 game which definitely harmed their confidence with berserker completely going rampage on prince and eyla.
@ExhaustinglyBored
@ExhaustinglyBored Год назад
Omg Emily in an episode?!
@ethanp5948
@ethanp5948 Год назад
Funny how all 4 of these people independently do their own podcasts
@JimJPoggers
@JimJPoggers Год назад
for a second there i thought emily was part of the chair lul
@123rtXd
@123rtXd Год назад
like tenacity a lot but i don't think he's near third this split. he was really underwhelming in lane across the board, never really proved he could carry on carry-picks and while he did absolutely find a role, he still had some bad TPs, weak laning, shallow champion pool (that he can win games on). he's probably 5th or sixth behind Dhokla/Ssumday. He had one good fiora game in teamfighting but I think next split if he sticks to this playstyle though he could deserve 2nd or 3rd for sure.
@Gurpreet-sv5zg
@Gurpreet-sv5zg Год назад
Also doesn't help that Tenacity came in as a carry player and they forced him on the BB international treatment by putting him on tanks so he couldn't run it down.
@noct-XIII
@noct-XIII Год назад
Emily Rand on the Dive LETS FKN GOOOOOO!!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@cedrichofstetter4057
@cedrichofstetter4057 Год назад
Saturday and Sunday bay bee
@TheSyphroJExperience
@TheSyphroJExperience Год назад
Feels like my 3 favorite teams (C9, CLG, EG) are always in the same side of the bracket, so it's impossible for all of them to win a Bo5. Sucks.
@bane4743
@bane4743 Год назад
It's simple C9 always. Blaber show.
@TheSyphroJExperience
@TheSyphroJExperience Год назад
@@bane4743 oh C9 will always be my number one, don't get me wrong
@AdrianPothead
@AdrianPothead Год назад
Vicla 2, Jojo 3? Nah you're trolling hardcore. Both of them be griefing out of their minds lately. Vicla's had 2 good weeks and after that it's been tsunami of ints. Jojo's had as many carry performances as absolute turbo ints.
@lucasalarcon3230
@lucasalarcon3230 Год назад
Yeah mid was really mediocre this splits
@Gurpreet-sv5zg
@Gurpreet-sv5zg Год назад
It's hard to rank mid not because of quality candidates but because of how bad they were. - Vicla inted - Bjergsen walking meme - Gori (def should get in) - Emenes (low number of games played) - Jojo inted Top 3 will be interesting. It's basically the best of the worst. Hard to argue not giving it to the top players on the best team sans emenes.
@Rejinx
@Rejinx Год назад
According to some of these guys T100 has no players in the top 3 of the LCS but will be the 2nd place team in the LCS.
@JG-si9vs
@JG-si9vs Год назад
nahhh these MarkZ takes, how is this guy still employed year after year
@123rtXd
@123rtXd Год назад
fuck it start a second league podcast with these guys.
@ImAlpine
@ImAlpine Год назад
I love Jojo, but if he's in top 3, something is seriously wrong. This split has been disastrous for him specifically. And they're talking about him playing with Covid, but he had PLENTY of sprinting games in the first half. I feel like I'm just watching different EG games than the analysts. Edit: A side note. I have never disagreed with Jatt so much. Usually I'm on the same page as him with almost everything
@Monkey2tv
@Monkey2tv Год назад
THE ROCKET DOESNT STOP HALFWAY
@Josarifire18
@Josarifire18 Год назад
LCS please make a podcast called the Mark Zimmerman Experience
@jaypham3393
@jaypham3393 Год назад
13:52 Zoom in Mark’s face for the length of Raz’s spiel
@siguihim
@siguihim Год назад
OMG YES, THE DIVEEEEEEE
@rs4cool
@rs4cool Год назад
Actually mind blowing that Winsome is getting benched for this trash Eyla.
@analysttherapist2929
@analysttherapist2929 Год назад
i think if ur praying for international success u want c9 eg or fly being of ur 2 representatives this year. using msi to grow and lose is important as hell coming into this new worlds format
@tynivinnie
@tynivinnie Год назад
Sometimes I think these guys are too into their heads when voting for all pro, how are you going to put no-hands gori on #1? No-hands palafox #2??
@zephyrpumpkin7239
@zephyrpumpkin7239 Год назад
I love jatt, his humor is top notch. ❤
@Matt-wm1bf
@Matt-wm1bf Год назад
Berzerker pushed it over for me with the last few draven games. I think it was close with prince till the spinning axes took the win. 😊
@moonfish817
@moonfish817 Год назад
Jatt with a play on the Bus Driver conversation calling Ssumday a passenger is the NBA crossover I need.
@SteefPip
@SteefPip Год назад
Azael Hasselhoff
@Infamouscritter
@Infamouscritter Год назад
Not hating on azael or Kobe but maybe it was just the lounge they are in or something but this episode was great
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