The Best and Worst Villains in Pokemon 

Lusamine

N from black and white

Probably Giovanni

Ghetsis. Cuz he's actually very villainous

Mommy Lusamine

This makes a lot of since because no one is that I guess crazy for lack of a better word

That’s kinda dark to think that Nihilego’s poison slowly mentally damaged Lusamine for many years

That's really interesting. Lusamine having her inner feelings being amplified to the highest degree turning her into this monster of a woman is super creepy but also cool. Also don't worry about the length. I (am ashamed to admit that I've made) comments 3 times longer.

i think thats correct as well

BuT tHaTs JuSt A tHeOrY Honestly, really good point and had no idea

If anything it feels more like a “No Way Home” situation

I still think he's kind of a mafia boss though.

@@Acrum99 if the mafia was Rainbow Rocket

Diavolo to thanos*

Isn't it more akin to Kang? Lysandre is more of the Thanos type here (Or Cyrus I suppose if we're talking about the comics Thanos)

Giratina gave him the Distortion World special and let his hair defy all known physics.

That’s what he’s doing whenever he disappears for periods of time

How did he even shape it like Arcesus if he never saw Arcesus in the first place tho

@@edwardivandeveloper when the alpha pokemon is arceSUS

I know people have mixed thoughts on the games, but I thought Lusamine was an excellent villain. Mf was almost like a female Ghetsis

And yet I got somehow turned on to that

@@paradoxgaming3181 same Ngl I was 🧱’ed up after seeing her the first time

Thanos at least has some reasoning to his ideals, all maxie and Archie have is an ign quote

Yeah, he's just a poké-mob boss. He doesn't want to remake the world or fuse with alien jellyfish or become god. He just wants money and power and is willing to use violence to get it. He's *grounded* in a way most other villains in the series aren't.

@@keiyakins Very clever, I see what you did there.

@@keiyakinshe’s grounded in a series that’s all about breaking realism, hence he’s the most unrealistic one

If we take that into account this how great would it have been if N and Cyrus showed up. They would be great sponsors for a humanity/technology vs pokemon/nature dilemma. It's also what I like about both of them, their division and stand makes me wish we had a way to choose between them and have the consequences be something similar to the black city and white forest in gen5, it's a shame we didn't have that for oras and it would fit so well too.

Scarlet and Violet: Hoenn Edition

@@bdt2002gaming yea, that's what I thought when I saw that the theme of the games where Past and Future, also it's curious that both regions are more made to explore. Hoenn has a lot of biomes, secrets, and things to do there, and Scarlet and Violet being open worlds seems like that.

I will agree, and will probably go even further to say that they were most likely a foundation to take Pokémon villains & plots into a new direction, but someone in the Nintendo upper echelons put their foot down and stopped it.

Pokémon: progressive and conservative

Rose was basically the Evil Business Man trope honestly that trope is tiring. Rose had a lot of potential but remember it wasn't our story it was Leon's story.😒

I straight up sat for about 10 minutes trying to remember who Rose was. Chairman Rose was done dirty, just felt like Lusamine but cranked down to 1. The CEO of a large business who’s made out to be a cool hero/side character wanting the best for the world, but actually turn out to be the villain while a secondary evil team acts as a diversion. Lusamine had more of a personal touch, losing her husband so turns to the ultra beasts and ultra space to get him back, while making it seem like she’s just after research. Rose is pretty useless, and has no motivation. He’s just a businessman doing business. Making as much money as he can, regardless of what happens, even if that means bringing the apocalypse.

Yeah, the game did a horrible job at showing his side. From what they gave us in game, the energy crisis 1000 years away and Leon willing to help after the Champion match. All he had to do was wait a day to solve something that wouldn't be an actual problem until centuries later. The game makes him look less like a desperate man who seems to be the only one who cares about an oncoming crisis and more like a massive, impatient baby.

@@FTChomp9980 the only flaw with Pokémon sword and shield is rose copying lusmaine evil plan

They did it better in the manga.

@@jaretco6423 I mean, he is Ghetsis' second-in-command and is unapologetically working as the official head of Team Plasma, so I think if N counts then Colress definitely should as well.

@@jaretco6423 Same here, he's probably one of the most likeable villains, I probably would have placed him higher if he didn't get sidelined for Ghetsis near the end.

How do you rank them now with SV?

@@BJGvideos The Team Star Admins are basically all near the bottom since they really don't do anything villainous at all, and they don't get enough screen-time for me to really get close to them as characters either. The same goes for Penny. The AI-professor goes way higher for having one of the best boss battles in the entire series, though I wish it was more antagonistic. Still a good character though, I imagine I'd place it somewhere at around 8th place.

@@dobadobadooo Star isn't even really villains. I'd go so far as to call them heroes, albeit with terrible press. Oh god the debate of if the AI even counts as an antagonist either. They served the professor but how much was willing and how much was what they were programmed to do? Because when they do the actually EVIL stuff, it's the PPP taking over their mechanical shell and using them as a puppet. The PPP likely isn't even sentient like the AI is, but they both represent the professor's personality.

Might I ask what was wrong with making Lusamine more sympathetic?

@@skeetermania3202 if you mean USUM, it wasn't that Lusamine wasn't more sympathetic, that was already covered in SM explained by Gladion. It was how 'Look! I am a Sane Good person the whole time' out of nowhere before Necrozma appeared.

Didn’t bother with the anime on that so I couldn’t speak on her tbh

@@LucarioShirona Aaaaand?

@@LucarioShirona Don’t spoil Sun/Moon for me.

So that's why lorelai and Agatha aren't there anymore

I thought the Pokemon league was still somewhat young and didn't have much of a filter or clearance to check for bad faith gym leaders. After the Kanto Pokedex Holders uprooted Team Rocket, the Pokemon League started taking more active measures with whom they accepted as gym leaders. Also, Kanto and Johto are considered to be fairly backwater regions, lacking significant infrastructure that other regions have. The Kanto Elite Four were environmental terrorists who sought the destruction of industrialization and pollution. After the big battle and a couple years, Koga and Bruno got Will and Karen to join them to hone their skills in battle and focus on the spirit of battle. I forgot to mention this, there really wasn't a champion in Kanto until Red and Lance wasn't a champion, just a fill in for Red while he was recovering. The Hoenn region was the first region shown to have good Gym Leaders, an Elite Four, and Champion that were cleared by the Pokemon League. They also had a signifier for who the Champion is. Unova was the first region to have a Pokedex Holder look towards beating the Gym Leaders, Elite Four, and Champion. Up to this point, Pokedex Holders only really sought to battle Gym Leaders for the spirit of competition and proving oneself.

This is also the reason why sabrina doesnt do anything when they begin taking over silph co, in the manga, she's a rocket

Rose´s plan does makes sense though. And it´s highly tied to everything you hear and watch during your entire playthrough about the legend of Galar, the characters and specially about Leon. In fact, something that people loves to joke about is the whole Leon being an unbeatable champion thing but this is actually a huge plot point. This because Rose was developing his plan based on his (incomplete/inaccurate) knowledge of the legend of Galar (the one that talks about how "a hero" was the one who stopped the first darkest day). So in order to ensure the future of Galar (by making Eternatus scatter wishing stars once again through the entire region like it did 3000years ago), he needed to recreate the events of the first darkest day. Because of this, he needed two things: to bring back the darkest day (a.k.a Eternatus) and "a hero" to defeat it (and in current times, this would be Leon, the strongest trainer of the Galar region). Which made Leon´s cooperation an absolutely vital part of his plan. As seen through the game, Rose isn´t really a bad person. He loves Galar, had a huge role in his development as a metropolis and has a great eye to find talented people that could help with that growth (Oleana, Leon, Bede, etc). But he also has some really strong ideals. And that´s why the scene where he expels Bede from the gym challenge for destroying the ancient mural is also really important. Because is meant to show that Rose cuts associations with anyone that goes againts the well being of Galar in some way or another. And just like what happened with Bede, he also got dissapointed with Leon´s actions. Bede not only was the challenger endorsed by Rose, he was his plan B in case Leon refused to take part in his plan. A challenger with great talent that could potentially beat Leon and become the champion. But he lost this plan B as a result of what happened with the mural since he considered Bede as unreliable due to his actions. Although he was unaware of Oleana´s petition to Bede and how unintentionally on Oleana´s part, encouraged Bede to go to extremes to help Rose. Quotes from Rose and Bede: Bede:" If I gather enough wishing stars, that´ll help you to solve the problem that has been bothering you, right Mr. Chairman?" Rose: "Oh, it´s not just about me. It´s for the future of the whole Galar region. And we´ll need more than just wishing stars. We´ll need a powerful pokemon trainer too. Someone like the champion." Bede: "With all due respect sir, I was able to show Hop, one of the champion endorsed trainers just how outclassed he was. I´m sure I´ll be able to defeat the champion. No, I WILL defeat the champion. "Rose: "That´s the spirit. It takes healthy competition to really keep the gym challenge energized". Then Oleana interrupts to talk to Bede and this is when Bede learns from Oleana about the wishing stars near the mural and ask her to lend Rose´s Copperajah (without her knowing his intentions and making Rose disappointment in his actions even worse for using HIS pokemon to do it). After this, Rose personally gives you, the player, literally an entire explanation about why the wishing stars are so important in Galar. Explaining how the energy from the wishing stars is transformed and used literally for everything in the region (and this is what helped to turn the region into a huge metropolis in a really short period of time. Around 20 years ago by the way). That´s how useful the wishing stars are. But they aren´t unlimited and that´s the main problem. And after this, he even suggest you to check the hammerlocke vault, where the ancient tapestries with the (incomplete/inaccurate) version of the legend of the darkest day are being preserve ( and that is the version of the legend he is using for his plan since the actual truth about the legend is unknown by literally everyone). Dynamax energy can last for a long time, but the wishing stars that contain such energy in a metropolis with an increasingly higher use of them can only keep existing with Eternatus defeat. So they needed to ensure their existence but everytime they give wishing stars to Eternatus for his awakening to eventually happen it also accelerates that moment and gets harder to contain (hence why you hear explosions every time you´re near hammerlock). It´s also important to mention that the reunion with Leon in Rose Tower wasn´t Rose´s first attempt to convince Leon to participate in the plan (but the problem is that as the strongest trainer of galar, he was vital for his plan, so he HAD to take part in it). Quote from Rose: "Leon, we have discussed this a hundred times already. And you still fail to understand what´s at stake? You, who are supposed to be our champion". In fact, Oleana´s entire ambush to Leon on his way to the dinner with Hop and the player was their last attempt to get Leon´s cooperation by his own will. To the point where Oleana makes everything in her power to delay your (and Hop´s) arrival to the tower to gain as much time as she could for Rose to convince Leon, even if she herself had to battle againts the player to do it. At the end, this plan failed and Rose got dissapointed with Leon just like he did with Bede but he still needed him for his plan, specially after the experiments required to awake Eternatus (the explosions you hear through the game and that Leon took care of). Because of this, Eternatus was already fully overloaded for Leon to fight but Rose no longer trusted in Leon´s promises to help with the plan, which is why the plan couldn´t be delayed. Once again, he cuts associations with anyone that he considers failed to Galar. So given the situation he needed to force Leon to cooperate (by awakening Eternatus in a way that Leon couldn´t ignore: during the final match of the gym challenge). Quotes from Rose: " I think it´s time to bring the darkest day. All for the sake of Galar.But I´m in a bit of a pickle. The energy released by the darkest day it´s too much for us to contain." "I´m sorry it´s come to this. But it´s you who forced my hand, Leon. You refused to listen" "In order to solve the energy issue, we awakened Eternatus but we couldn´t control it. The champion still came to aid me, even at the cost of abandoning the match. Indeed, just like a knight in shining armor coming to rescue a princess from a dragon". So basically, the experiments caused Eternatus awakening to accelerate making it even harder to contain and this why their plan couldn´t be delayed (and it´s also why you hear explosions through the story everytime you´re near hammerlocke) and their reunion in Rose Tower was Rose´s last attempt to convince him to take part in the plan by his own will since Leon was vital for it. But he refused to take part in such a dangerous plan and this became the moment where he saw Leon just like he saw Bede, but he was still vital for the plan. And because of this, he made sure to force Leon to participate in it by letting Eternatus awakening happen in a way Leon couldn´t ignore (during the final match of the gym challenge) and Leon had to participate just like he expected and just like his plan (that was based on the incomplete/inaccurate version of the legend of Galar) required. And only you, the player, thanks to the fact that you went through the gym challenge, Sonia´s research in the places related to the legend and to the discovery of the lost ancient tapestry with the missing part of the legend (that hinted the location of the relics necessary to summon the legendaries that protected Galar), discovered the actual cause of Eternatus defeat 3000 years ago that no one else knew. And with Hop´s help you were able to summon the only ones that could actually defeat Eternatus (Zacian and Zamazenta), just like the two kings (descendants of Swordward and Shieldbert) did in the past and saved the region (while also ensuring the future of Galar with the wishing stars being scattered once again through the region). Sorry for the ridiculously long comment. I tend to write a lot sometimes XD. But I hope this helps to understand Rose´s plan with Leon and the darkest day and why he did what he did.

@@giboit. I understand a lot of it, I just think the execution sucks. Especially since Leon agrees to help, as long as it's the day after the championship. So it comes across as Rose just being an impatient baby, rather than a desperate man. I do think they could've had something wonderful with Rose, but they squandered the potential

@@TechnoArpan You're still not getting it. That wasn't the first time that Rose heard that kind of promise from Leon. That moment that you see in the game was just the last straw for him. Many people confused the idea of dynamax energy having the potential to last a thousand years with the wishing starts (the source of that energy) being unlimited. Rose was aiming to restore the amount of wishing stars required to keep having energy able to last a thousand years. Because the wishing stars are used for literally everything in the (increasingly wishing stars dependent) Galar region. But only Eternatus was able to produce them and the last time it did it was 3000 years ago.

That's exactly the point of Rose in Pokemon SwSh. The problem you say about the evidence is the same that made stories of the game missunderstood for the community: not making real changes and showing what's really happening in the game. For example, not all of the community knew that Bede collected the Whising Stars for Rose because he was the unique person who gave him some love and an opportunity to get stronger when Bede was alone in the orphanage. That kind of lost details of the game hadn't been really shown in the games and in the actions of the characters. I think that Oleana wasn't really manipulating him, because her actions were just stopping the player from stopping their plan. I just think Rose when he heard about Eternatus and the infinite Dynamax power he makes, he thought it was the perfect Energetic Resource to stop that crisis. I also think about that crisis did start on the games already. For example, we are able to see that in Spikemuth (Marnie's town) there isn't enough Dynamax energy because of the crisis.

@@alfernix As if the world even needs dynamax energy. The way it is being written and presented specifically screams power/electricity crisis. And I get the basic idea of wanting to convert over the dynamax-energy, but Rose being so obsessed with finding a solution is dubious at best. We never actually get a frame for what he has already tried, like has he tried gathering large chunks of electric pokemon or what? And even if he does find a solution, what makes him think it would still be valid 1000 years later? What if there is an accident and the power is somehow lost? And what about new possibilities that would reveal themselves in the future? It is simply not up to a generation whose grandkids' grandkids will still be far removed from the moment of oof.

But it would have taken 1000 until for the energy to run out. And he knew this.

This is a common problem I find with Pokémon stories when they try to make villains that are trying to be the good guys by doing what others will not. I forget where they said it (I recall hearing about it in a video discussing Pokémon game development), but Game Freak once said that the Pokémon world is basically a utopia. Even ignoring that, the Pokémon world is very much idealized in its presentation and setup. This causes a major problem though, as while the villain motivations might make sense when compared to 'the real world', they don't make sense when compared to the Pokémon world. - Maxie wanted to expand the landmass to further human development, and while we get some of that with Sea Mauville and the decommissioned New Mauville site, there isn't much there. - Archie wanted to return nature back to its natural state to fix the environment, but we don't see any pollution, deforestation, Pokémon ecosystem damage, or anything else that would fall under that banner. - Lysandre thought to save the world you'd have to lower the population and preserve what's left, but we never hear about any overpopulation problems in Kalos. - Rose wants to resolve an energy crisis, but that's not shown to be a major problem in Galar's region. I never played Sword and Shield, so maybe I'm wrong here, but it doesn't look like power supply problems are a major deal. These motivations don't work because Pokemon is set up as an idealized world, causing a disconnect between how the villains perceive reality and what we're actually shown. Selfish villains like Cyrus an Ghetsis may have simpler motivations by comparison, but they aren't at odds with the worlds they live in, so they still work no matter how you establish the given region.

@@flarestorm9417 Well yeah, the power is going out in 1000 years, as is evident in what is being discussed here. Not saying this to validate Rose as a villain because that is exactly the issue(It really should have been 10 years or even 1 year, lol), I am just saying that I feel it would actually be more bizarre to see signs of the power supplies failing in this given setting.

I don't know who anime Cyrus is but he sure isn't me

@@TeamGalactic-Cyrus Yes, exactly. He did look a lot like you but he was probably an identity thief.

And anime Ghetsis and Colress

It's also odd because he does confirm that others will be in his new world. He also lies to us to provoke us at a few points (remember how he says he'll blow up Celestic Town if we oppose him, we do it anyway, and he praises us and leaves?) so who knows if he was telling US the truth when he said that?

​@@BJGvideosCyrus really went "Damn you called my bluff, I am actually impressed"

@@John-Stark Basically

Dont't forget PMD with Team Meanies and Darkrai.

@@SSBBPOKEFAN and pokepark2’s darkrai

@@SSBBPOKEFAN I personally don't like PMD2 Darkrai as much as most other incarnations of Darkrai, like it's one of the only versions of the character that is just evil instead of being misunderstood which makes him less interesting. He's a good and fun villain, I just feel he's kinda disappointing for PMD2 since other characters in the game have a lot more depth than him. He also doesn't really fit in the "bad Pokemon don't exist anywhere" game, since he's basically just 100% bad. Dusknoir's a much better villain imo and my fave character in the game, really amazing character arc.

Go Rock Squad and Go Rock Quads have to be the best pun that they've ever come up with.

@@usermcskull4713 Dusknoir is, imo, the best antagonist of the entire franchise, period.

So specifically Pokespe then. There are many manga series.

@@BJGvideos I'm aware, but obviously 99% of people who say 'the manga' mean the one that 's been around for Pokemon's entire lifetime

@@Pwrplus5 But Pocket Monsters is even older, and there was a gag manga that even predates that.

Giovanni in Pokespe was a fairly one dimensional villain. Yeah, he truly loved his son and respected Red but that all he has. Outside of it, he had little to no personality. And every time he helps the heroes to protect the world from greater threats, it's purely for selfish reasons (either because his own life is threatened or because it would impossible to rule the world that's already destroyed). And he's never really helpful in any of his "enemy mine" situation. In Yellow, he fights Lance but falls in his trap and ends up making things worse. In HGSS, his disease gets the better of him and he faints after few attacks. In ORAS, he saves the heroes (because they would be useful for him) but outside of this, he does absolutely nothing. Whereas Giovanni from the games is a better character than he's given credit for. He shows respect for his enemies and his grunts, he pretty clearly cares for the members of Team Rocket and his son, Silver, he values teamwork and bounds between people. He has plenty of principles and standards and every game fleshes his character further.

I only read the Hoenn part, but Archie and Maxie wre terrifying. More so because it wasnt them entirely who were doing it

Tbf I feel with Ghetsis, his role in the story doesn’t give a definitive answer to the clash between you and N. N himself admits that listening to other people’s opinions and beliefs is important, that’s what he took away from it because through the game, he was stubborn. He only believed in his way or the highway, like when he lambasted Juniper for being in possession of a Pokedex. Ghetsis doesn’t undermine that at all, he instead places the final confirmation that N was manipulated into going down this path. But that doesn’t take away the fact that N believed in truths or ideals even after this revelation, it consolidates his beliefs on the world and the main character does the same with their beliefs.

Not to mention that the abusive dynamic between her and Lillie/Gladion is STILL there despite Nihilego not influencing her. She still has Pokémon frozen in her room, still mistreats Lillie, you still battle her for virtually no reason. It didn’t make any sense to me, she somehow was more logical when she was insane due to Nihilego’s influence in SM.

I think you missed the point. USUM Lusamine is no "unsung hero", she's explicitly said to be a selfish and controlling person who wants to defeat or capture Necrozma as a false empowerment of herself and a way to cheat past having to actually work past her trauma and be a better person to her family, company, Pokemon, etc. The "I will save Alola's light" rhetoric was shown to be bullshit because her provoking Necrozma is what CAUSES it to break loose into Alola and take its light.

​@@incrediblefunk7220personally i thought she went to go through what she did in Sun and Moon but her Nilhigo and Guzma got bitched slapped by Necrozama This makes me think Necrozama grabbed Mohn and she is hell bent on vengeance

You forgot ya boy 😤

Lysandre's about people destroying the world and overpopulation being a problem, in Y He's about preserving the present beauty the world has to offer without letting it deteriorate in X Idk how well the X version lines up with real life, but it's certainly interesting

Sada and Turo--even horrible people can have a kernel of humanity and compassion to them

That's not how canon works. Didn't you pay attention to the Delta Episode and the RR Episode? The multiverse exists. The dual versions exist in different universes from the third version.

Nothing gets overridden. They're all their own canons.

I agree with this 100% she could have been the first true Female Villain (I don't consider Lusamine as the Villain of Alola for me its Guzma).

@@AdamDawson3 Lusamine was totally the villain wtf

Totally. So many good ones. Purple Eyes is probably the second most evil villain in the franchise, only behind Ghetsis.

@@BJGvideos Finally, someone else who knows about him. I was beginning to think he’d been forgotten about.

@@bdt2002gaming Ranger in general has been mostly forgotten about. I think Jayden Animations reinspired people about 2, but even then I don't know how many people played it.

@@bdt2002gaming The guy whose battle theme is also Red’s voice?

@@paulrance5445 Is there something I’m missing here…?

Even so he lacks any official art, across any canon at all, that gives him any tattoos, which is a big thing with that sort

The creepiest part is how REAL she is. Space jellyfish aside, she's torn apart by grief to the point where it ruined who she was inside, and her obsession with her own loss made her unable to accept that her children were growing up. She wanted to keep everything the same for Mohn, and just by existing, her children went against that. She was so gone that she couldn't accept the passage of time.

Cyrus only succeeded in the Rainbow Rocket verse, where everyone was from universes where they succeeded. If you get down to it, Rose and Guzma won. Rose stopped Eternatus from draining the energy from Galar, and Guzma got as close as he could to being a trial captain.

Not just there but in the Pokespe and DPA mangas as well, Cyrus is able to turn his life around by the end

Than why do it?

@@jaretco6423 No it still does. She's scared to death of losing any more of her most perecious people to circumstances beyond her control like what happened with Mohn, so she froze those Pokemon so that they wouldn't ever leave her or die.

Surprised that no one has mentioned Evice in Colosseum

Cyrus's plan is too goofy for me to take seriously. He's just a goofy edgelord who rambles on about lack of perfection.

@@dragonslayer7724 Edgelord? He lost all faith in the world when he couldn't rely on anybody from a very early age. His grandfather knew he was being abused and did nothing to intervene.

@@BJGvideos when is this mentioned

@@dragonslayer7724 Platinum.

Agreed. Honestly, The way they wrote Volo is frustrating as hell. His villain arc still feel rushed to me despite all the red flags through out the game.

Can you link the video? I'm interested

Me too

Idk I'm a big Cyrus fan and I'm also autistic but I just don't see it in him. What do you mean "from a western perspective I think it can be confusing"? I think people in any hemisphere can, sadly, relate to the notion of being so isolated and neglected.

Yeah, and unlike Cyrus, Lysandre DOES form bonds. He's friends (possibly more) with Sycamore at the very least. Cyrus on the other hand...well, he has a Crobat but he likely got it the same way the player character does, since happiness increases as you walk with a pokemon and he walks everywhere, and he also works very close to the department store and massage parlor.

I feel like Cogita knew more than she let on but also doesn't especially *care*, considering she, immediately after telling us that this happens sometimes with people who get obsessed with legends, tries to tell us about more legends.

@@BJGvideos I totally agree with you I got the same feeling

@@summersweete09 Cogita is kind of a disturbing character when you get down to it. She's supposed to be this wise sage who holds this sacred knowledge, but she also thinks nothing of using a divine artifact so flippantly, discards her pupil the first chance she gets after repeatedly dismissing him as a slacker, uses the end of the world as an excuse to shop, as if it means nothing to her, and never talks to anybody but us (it's implied she talks to Laventon and Anthe but we never see it, do we?). And she also may or may not be immortal, potentially the last of the original Celestica, so could it be her long life and the loss of her people that's caused her detachment from the rest of the world, or was she like that to begin with?

Well, being the villain of the best story in a Pokémon game truly helps

shhhhhh

yeah, Legends was SO refreshing in many ways and I liked the new battle system for THAT game, but in a long battle like with Volo it really showed its negative side too - OHKO'ing each other's pokémon, hardly any strategy (status moves) and crucially zero knowledge of how quickly a fresh opposing pokémon will move

The problem is that you don't get experience during battles, making it impossible to level up your pokemon if you lose the battle

It's so frustrating to me that only one of the movie villains got an image song. Granted it gave Lawrence some MUCH needed depth and characterizes him as so deluded and obsessed with his collection that he's lost the ability to process the world outside it, but I still think he only got one to begin with because they cost Takeshi Kaga to play him.

Unfortunately, USUM ruined her and Lillie & Gladion development.

Idk I'm autistic myself, and I love Cyrus, but I never got why so many people think he's autistic. He's certainly got something going on but I feel like it's more akin to severe depression, stemming from his strict and overbearing upbringing.

I've had many teams be wiped by his hydreigon. I'm having flashbacks...

The real reason why Fairy type were created

Ghetsis was kinda weak in adventures imo. He was a bit too mild for my taste. But yeah the other villains are quite something!

@@magnus5747 imo. What does that mean? Anyway. Pokemon Adventures villains are a whole other story onto themselves.

@@theauraone7755 imo: in my opinion. I love the villains, but Ghetsis was too mild and weirdly written. I can see what they tried to do, but I like Ghetsis more as a crazy maniac.

@@magnus5747 got it. Thank you.

@@magnus5747 You gotta admit tho, the moment when he beats N with his cane is really crazy Ghetsis style.

At very least, he respects his enemies and subordinates and seems to highly value teamwork.

When you put that way, that sounds to be the worst Adventure story arc that uses elements from its respective games.

@@thatman666 It could very well be. It made Lillie a side character *in her own story,* following the Adventures tradition of giving all the glory to the main characters. Let's give an example of that. You know Poké Pelago from the games? The archipelago that the amnesiac Mohn runs in the games for the enjoyment of your boxed Pokémon? In Adventures, it is instead a dream project for one of the main characters, started by their late great-grandfather. We never actually see it getting built, but the point is, where does this leave Mohn? Well, instead of getting to spend an amnesiac but still happy life doing something he loves, he instead wanders Alola alone, crying in sadness because he misses a family he doesn't even remember. Yeah. A main character quite literally robbed Mohn of his happiness in this canon.

That's almost as bad as how USUM made an story an retcon from the story in original SM.

@@jaretco6423 Oh, believe me. USUM is far better than what Adventures did. In those games, they had a good reason for it: giving Hau more focus instead. But in Adventures, Hau is little more than a glorified side character, who ends up doing nothing of main importance, other than getting the starter the main characters didn't have.

@@wikiuser92 Yikes. As much as I hate what USUM did the story dirty from SM, I think I rather listen to that than whatever the Adventure side of SM had.

He's also only Italian in the English version, yeah?

We need a video on side game villains. Nobunaga from Conquest has some great motives--he's basically like if N had been an actual villain.

Well you got one of those.

God, totally. Ultra are the worst main series games because of how badly they weakened the plot

But even they knew there plan was stupid. Yeah. Those villains are dumb

Cyrus had depth. But yeah I felt bad for Volo. It was obvious he was sick, and in that era there wouldn't be any resources to help him.

Great minds think alike 👍