The Derailing Lemon Train Set | Bachmann Thanet Flyer | Unboxing & Review 

Alternative title: Sam gets _bulleid_ by Bachmann’s new train set Edit: 42 likes, that'ss all I need thanks. The answer to life, the universe and everything.

I love when you do these train set reviews

20:39 The Bachmann diesel I got years ago for $40 (30 pounds) has a better mechanism than that, with TWO more flywheels. 9 years later, and it still runs pretty good (and it came from the days when DCC Ready wasn't a thing).

Another 'Nice from afar, but far from nice' engine, I see. Tut, tut, Bachman, Tut, tut.

I'm afraid the seem down the boiler did it for me, you can't blame the chinese manufacturing, they have been pressured into making a product for very little money. A good honest review Sam as per usual, we respect that.

You better not fix that engine before I can request it on stream with Dapol's amazing Egg Vans! It's stuff like this that made Botchmann the laughing stock of the market in the United States for some time.

I always look forward to these reviews! Great job!

Great honest, if harsh, review. Thanks for being so open.

When I watch This Video I Lookout For churches And A lot Of beautiful Details In Your Layout Amazing Keep Up The work Sam

Ha yes! I remember that last train set! The Thanet Flyer does look like a nice train set with that livery. It's disappointing tho with the running issues however and for a new starter in the hobby, it will cause even more disappointment. Not a good start for any newcomer. Sloppy paintwork and performance issues are non negotiable really. Such great potential but execution let it down. Great review and content as always. All the best, Clint

A well considered and thoughtful review, thanks. Initially I was tempted as I have no Bullied coaches and the N was a great loco considering the the SE&CR was almost bankrupt when Mr Maunsel built it. Perhaps I can find better value but , like you, I did like the colour on the loco. In passing, you may already know that in 1937, knowing that Oliver was inspecting the Ryde Loco Works on IoW, Marjorie Bullied asked him to buy some green sewing thread for her. This was the colour he bought and Mrs B suggested that he should paint his engines in it. So that is why Henry Ivatt's daughter was responsible for Southern Malachite Green.(Wonder what would have happened if she had married Wm Stroudley)

Finally! A (somewhat) professional review of this set. I remember when I first got into model railways I was close to buying this, but I never did

Great video sam'strains, the one thing creating these models is that they need to keep it simple, although the local motive steam engine looks amazing, I think they need to paint the cab inside to look the part as well, the best advice is to keep it simple but don't over complicated things. The model train looks amazing 😀

35:46 Do I spot an S15 stripped of its number and distinction of ownership?

It's a treat for the eyes... 😂😀 Thank you for all your reviews, you save a lot of us from disappointment when unboxing new stuff. And still trying to pick out the best of the mess. 😷 Stay safe (and strong lol).

The last set made me loose sleep XD this is way better! Great job once again Sam!

28:28 "....expensive sh*t...." I know you wanted say that, i can feel you. 😂😂😂

Hopefully with the amount of subs you have you can raise these faults for train companies to improve

Hi Sam 🙂 Just wanted to tell you I really enjoy your videos. Usually I listen while I play Railroads Online!, EEP, or 3D Train Studio. I have 2 HO sets, I just don't have room to set them up 😥 I love all the models you show, maybe one day I'll expand. Thankyou for all your vids, very much appreciated. All my best to you Sir 😎

I love the way you review model train sets this made my day.

This is why I intend to avoid Bachmann products ludicrously expensive especially when the detail and performance isn’t great. I wonder if they test these🤔 I just stick to Hornby Trains sets yes maybe basic and some do have traction tires on the loco but the value for money is way better. I agree with the ratings nearly on par of the 1361 by Heljan. Anyways great video Sam🙂

Sam love the vids. Yesterday I injured my foot really badly I also went to a local model railway shop and saw that train set and the underground Ernie it is scary in real life

Love vids including the reviews keep it up!!!

Just bought a boxed N class today, malachite green £42. Brilliant runner tbh, a good bargain!

Hi Sam. Another good and honest review. It appears that the gap between quality and value for money is widening in the case of Bachmann. They seem to be cutting corners and charging ridiculous prices just for the sake of profit. Keep up the good work. Cheers Chris.

0:35 oh god its back 😨

I see what you mean, I love that green too.

I say a train set like this is what I’m looking for. I’m not a beginner but an adult. I appreciate a good detailed locomotive as not ALL beginners are kids. Athearn here in North America made great starter sets with well detailed locos and rolling stock. Miss those and would like to buy a good British set! This is what I’d be looking for.

I wonder if it’s something with the chassis that’s causing them to derail

Talk of being in a bad mood, perhaps a story might make you laugh unless it scares you first. Sam was having a very bad day, due to his buying a train set that was way beyond his purchase budget. The Train Set in question was a Colliery & Quarry Goods set, complete with a small 0-6-0 Saddle Tank Engine of the Peckett B2 persuasion. The set had cost £289 to buy and he was almost in tears about it. Engine and 4 wagons out of the box, Sam had infuriating trouble getting the wagons to couple together, either by hand or backing the engine down on them. On top of this, the engine refused to crawl smoothly after being run in. Sam burst into tears, he was more upset than angry. "Why is this happening to me?!" he wailed loudly. "It's not what it should be!" Broome Manor and City of Truro, coupled up to a passenger train they were double-heading, chuffed up to Sam. They blew steam and soot up his nose, thus causing him to.... "Aatchoo!" ....sneeze. "Feel better?" chorused the Great Western Engines together. Sam looked down at them, feeling a cheerful grin spreading across his sad face. A laugh erupted from his throat. "I do," he giggled happily. "Thankyou for making me sneeze." Time went by. The 4 16-ton Mineral Wagons had a spooky effect about them, their colour was pale grey. The Peckett engine had been hurled down the ladder. 1361 the Ghost Saddle Tank Engine got the wagons and a grey Toad Van to behave. Sam's smile vanished as.... "AAH!" ....a girly scream of terror came out of his mouth. He'd uncannily put a Ghost Train together! He was whiter than a white sheet. Talk about scary.

I’ve had that issue with some of mine with the tender derailing I find loosening the screws on the draw bar makes them run fine

I feel your frustration, Sam. I used to open and test all the locos before they went out of the shop just because there always seemed to be an adjustment that needed to be made. One time I remember a $300 loco made it half way round the oval when it stopped dead in its tracks! Heh heh. A long screw had been stripped when assembled and it fell out and jammed between the ties. Fortunately I was usually able to fix them myself and demo them in front of the customer so that we were all on the same page. I also remember a batch of turn-outs that wouldn't close properly and had to be slightly modded. There is really no excuse for that lack of quality control except that some bean counter determined that it is more cost effective to replace an item than to make sure they all work properly. This is true for a lot of products manufactured today.

2:27 who bullied those coaches. Was someone saying nasty things to them or something 😂

I was reading a review from 2012 and the first thing mentioned was derailing tender

Hello sam enjoyed the review can I ask (not sure if I have already) but did you buy the capt tom moore class 66 as hornby are shipping them out I think. Matthew

Good review. I appreciate the honest appraisal. I have had some very poor running Bachmann hall locos, fortunately the retailers have exchanged them.

I've noticed I can now add an emoji to my comments if I want to. Is this the reason why it took me three days to comment on your previous video I wonder? I think the Thanet Flyer train set would have worked better on my railway. I have 2nd radius curves, which all my models get round perfectly well. My floor is completely flat, no inclines. Your train set left a sour taste in my mouth, and I'm so sorry it's let you down. Take my advice, hurl it down the ladder. Then it won't taste so sour. Also I don't have any points on my railway, so I've suffered fewer derailments than you and only one crash. Perhaps an emoji at the end will match your sour mood.

I recently discovered that the designer's name is pronounced "Mansell", even though it's spelled Maunsell.

Sam's got the most relaxing voice for model reviews

Always great videos Sam. 👍👍👍

I was wondering if you're going to get the genesis coaches when they come out (seeing as the cad is finished) but great video as always

Hello. Would you be able to provide more info on the draw bar mechanism modifications? I bought an N class with the same issue and was planning on modifying it, but I don't really want to go into it blind. I tend to find that the pony truck also has issues on tight curves. not sure if this is caused by the tender too but yeah, any info would be very helpful. Thankyou

I had a Bachmann N class a few years ago. Beautiful model, in BR lined black with late crest and I had the same derailment problem, it is a common fault with this model. It was to do with the profile of the wheels on the tender. I swapped the centre and leading axles around and it didn't derail after that. Was a beautiful model and ran very well after I 'repaired' it

Can you try it on it’s own track, does it derail on the curves supplied, and test with and without coaches....?

Love you man!!

Strange, I have several No and never had any problems with them. I’m wondering if there’s an issue with the train set engines in particular?

Out of curiousity, what do you think is the biggest factor in parts on an engine that will give it that 'smooth crawl'? I've seen old Triang 3Fs managing some slow, crawl-worthy speeds, then I see a brand new model like this that cant really manage it. Have you noticed any specifics that keep reoccuring in the 'Can't Crawl, Won't Crawl' models?

Check out those lamp irons at 14:14, is that prototypical? They look humungous. Also the way they've mounted the motor at 20:13, I've never seen that before. What sort of gear train does it have? No need to pull the loco apart just to answer my question, maybe the parts diagram shows it.

Great work Sam

I tried looking for this set however intead i found bachmann's "pacific flyer" set. Have you reviewed this set yet?

Well said Sam!..Bachmann are taking the Mick with this one!

For the record, never had an issue with mine. Runs beautifully

I think you are right. If I were a beginner it would put me off continuing with model railways. It's good you speak your mind down and tell it as it is.

Hi sam, lovely review, really enjoyed it. Its annoying it didnt perform as well as it could. I have just bought this set for £100 off ebay and intend to replace the tender coupling as it is a lovely video. Stay safe and keep up the great work. Jack

I have an SR black N class (the Modelzone special edition) and it runs beautifully, certainly better than my Railroad Schools which bounces very unrealistically - it's pretty much balanced on its driving wheels!

Hey Sam a question, how do i send you a photo of my model train for the wall?

You call it how it is and I respect that.

Darn Bachmann and the tender coupling.

There are plenty of close coupling mechanisms around that work perfectly well. Bachmann even have one themselves on their Midland Pullman. It's as if they never even tested this one on the track.

Good review Sam. I am pleased you are honest and don't suck up to the companies.

Just checked, the pipes are most likely to do with steam heating of the carriages, possibly overflow water or steam condensation? In days of steam locos heating was passed through the carriages, but with advent of deisels Steam generators were used.

Sam. We talked about this. It doesn't matter if a loco has build quality issues, makes a lot of noise, or a tender draw that causes derailments. However disappointed or frustrated you're feeling, nothing warrants showing us footage of Underground Ernie. You'll scare the children and trigger PTSD in the adults.

so i want to ask if there is a place where i can get a princess royal front bogie for spare

Hi sam i just bought this for my 6 year old son who is train mad and loves your channel. I got a really good deal on it so the price kind of negative the obvious issues with this loco. He is 6 so i thought this would be a good starting point for him. Was just wondering what you would recommend next for him.

This engine hits all the right aesthetics for me

Very nice Sam, this would be a good one for me, living in Thanet, Kent...Simon

New to this just starting but the lima class 50 power bogie so stiff won't take corners any advice

How intriguing, it’s seems a few years ago Bachman USA released a version of this set for the US. It was called the “Irish Railway Train Set” it came with the same loco and same coaches as this but in a different livery. Except the American version came with 3 coaches. It was Still green but the loco and coaches had some Irish railway logos on them. It was modeled in HO instead of OO. Pretty interesting.

Dont you think the gab between the smoke box and smoke box door realistic?

hey Sam, which is your favorite pre-grouping railroad?

Lovely antique green.

That drawbar is a massive defect which has been on that model for nearly 15 years. My advice is to get rid of it and use a piece of multi core wire to connect the tender and the engine. It will make it more smoother.

Sam, luv ur channel and you made me want my own model railway. It would be amazing if on the 16th (my birthday) if you could do an LBSC running session

Can u review the bachmann station pilot train set as im getting it for my birthday and there are no reviews on it on youtube :(

Hi Sam love the content building my own train a set Hope your doing good :)

What's the bloody point of the rubberised gangway if it isn't bloody touching? I am a budget modeler but whenever i tinker with couplings (like on dapol kits) i opt to make them as short as possible.

My old bachmann vintage n gauge locos have a slower and smoother crawl than this and the motors are a lot older. How Does Bachmann Pass this kind of stuff.

Hey Sam. I live in America. When ever I first got in to model trains. I bought my first ever train set it was the Bachmann Thomas with dc sound it came with troublesome trucks one and two for $225

I had a look at my own N class right now, and it's not good : same tender coupling mecanism... Further tests inconming to see if I can pull something with it or not.

Hi there glad I came across this video. Under our NZ lockdown I got back into model railway via my 1960s Triang childhood set which naturally wasn't a runner. Thanks to your channel and others I learnt to restore all sorts of models. Anyhoo along the way I bought a used analogue Bachman loco - the modified Soughton Hall. Loved the detail but boy it sucks re it's tender connection and derailed heaps. To be fair I'm using old super 4 track but even on code 100 it hasn't been great. I was at the stage of wanting to sell it off but now I'm wondering if I can do something about the draw bar? Any ideas would be very welcome. Cheers

Hello Sam's train this is how box set other train hornby pretty good. I loved the thanet flyer box set XD

I had the bachman Great smokey MTN set when I was a kid and at least one of the cars would derail especially the Log car because the logs would shift about on the curves or if I ran it fast lol. In the new version they seem to have taken away the log car and the hopper car too and left the boxcar and added a tanker same green USRA 0-6-0 though....

Love the model

Where does this leave us? Does it leave us to not buy from Heljan, Bachmann Branchline, and Bachmann USA? What are the better options? I can't help but wonder, when I see reviews like this.

Ooh I might get this sorry I’m late my phone was playing up so I’m now on my old one loved the video -Ollie

Your spot on sam , not harsh at all I'm tired of buying expensive crap at this stage, especially from hornby and Bachmann, great review 👍

Hi Sam, Static Model comes to mind, Quality control on holiday, or (the monkeys day off), Thank you for a good review, They buying up cheap bit and hope you don't notice, Keep hitting them ,All the Best Brian 🤗

Hey Sam.... I’m a bit late to the party on this one.... But it’s quite interesting to see what British train sets are like.... As you know, I’m modeling Japan in N scale. I have 3 Kato Starter Sets, one each of these sets: JR East E4 MAX Shinkansen (bullet train), JR East EF81 hauled Hokutosei sleeper train & one JRF EF210 container train. All of the models in Japanese starter sets are identical to the main range, same design, details, mechanisms & decorations. Japanese trains, especially multiple units and dedicated train units like sleeper trains, are usually sold as base sets of 3 to 6 cars, with the extra cars in add-on sets to bring it up to the correct length. So if you want to extend the train, there will never be incompatibility issues as long as you buy the correct expansion pack(s). Basically what the manufacturers in Japan do for train sets is to package the base set of whatever train they’ve picked for that set with an oval of track & a power pack & controller. On a note about mechanisms, the “worst” mechanism I’ve got in my Japanese fleet is the Kato E4 MAX bullet train.... It’s a great mechanism, but in order to get a good mechanism into a double decker(!!) bullet train car and still have an interior with see-through windows on both decks, Kato has had to install the motor in one end of the car with only one flywheel.... So while it still runs well, it sounds like a mosquito buzzing down the line at high speed! If you couple two of them together, or couple it to a Mini-Shinkansen train (something JR East does in real life!), it does kind of smooth out the mosquito buzzing sound, though!

The splashed paint on the running plate is added realism- the workman dropped the bucket while painting the boiler!

I remember you doing a review on the Underground Ernie train set by Bachmann and it was quite a scary one to watch because of the train itself and also the figurine.

Good job Sam

Hey Sam,I’ve been getting very interested in the hobby and I’ld like to know,do HO and OO gauge locos run on the same type of track,os does each one have it’s own track size?

Hi Sam, first of all. Thanks for another great review and for pointing out some truths about the quality of Bachmann and Hornby model trains. Infact its videos like this that concretes my frustration of poor tacky quality that Bachmann and Hornby think its acceptable to make us pay for crap. I am not prepared to keep paying for poorly made models and to be honest, this is the reason I am no longer getting any more model trains from Hornby or Bachmann for the foreseeable future. This is the reason why I moved over to European HO scale model trains because the quality is much better and the models I have bought so far have not fallen to bits or arrived with a broken chassis like the Bachmann Class 90's I recently bought. Those models are not cheap and this should not be happening. But they won't improve whilst we continue to put up with their poor quality. Most companies do not even care for the customer. So I take the same attitude with them.

Excellent review of the Bachmann train set that was not so much scary this time, but just annoying that it isn’t perfect train set. What I mean by annoying is the fact the N Class which looks lovely with that Southern green livery, is the fact that this model has three pole motor as well that tender keeps coming of the rails because of the link between the loco & tender.

34:07 Sam: "it's a lemon!" Me: **Cars 3 memories**

Awesome video today Sam beautiful locomotive and I have reached 100 subscribers mate and I have found one of those classes on eBay for 74 pound

Hey Sam I’m from Canada and I’m looking to find British model trains I don’t like shipping tho what should I do?

992 views so far! Nearly 1K! I think the inclusion of second radius curves is to cater for smaller spaces. I think, even for a starter loco, the N class is very poor. Thanks for another great review, and I'm looking forward to the last live episode of Series 9!

It's looks awesome for a derailing lemon

Great review Sam. I/We were looking at Bachmann range a Few weeks back. Because they 'Do Look Great.!' But Sadly looking great isn't enough. My Son would be Devo'd to spend his Pocket Money, to end up with a Poor Runner and Derailing equipment. Think we will be Sticking with Hornby in future. ( I was a Triang and Later Triang/ Hornby kid, so maybe Biased.) But In my experience, Hornby never seem to Fail. My Old Black Princess loco is still running, since 1962 purchase. ( Battered, but intact and Never Fails or Derails.) Thanks for a Great review, from me and my Boy..! Cheers kim in Oz.😎