The Dodge Demon 170 Controversy

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A 1025 HP Drag car that is street legal, with a warranty: The Dodge SRT Demon 170.
Dodge's newest release, the Dodge Challenger SRT Demon 170 has not only shaken up anyone standing near it when it starts off, but all of the owners of the original 2018 SRT Demon.
The release of this incredible muscle car has gotten a whole lot of press both good and bad with many fighting with their wallets to get one and some with potential lawsuits. The release has been thick in controversy from the dealer markups to the many lies from Dodge itself. In this video we'll dig into the Supercharged V8 monster and many of the problems that have risen since it's resurrection.
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@greengabe5 Год назад

Dodge needs to do what Ford was talking about and forcing dealers to stop marking up the prices at the threat of shutting down their dealership.

@PhilipBlank Год назад

We’ll see what they do after all this, my hopes are not too high though as this really is only 3000 cars in the grand scheme of the millions they sell.

@jerrydarvell6351 11 месяцев назад

They need to stop in the recreational business to they are doing mark up too it not fun to buy anything anymore

@harrybarry2291 11 месяцев назад

Absolutely.

@bultacowally 9 месяцев назад

too late now...

@12jazion Год назад

Dealerships are crooks and people should not complain about Dodge making a better car. Technology advances and if people complained about everything new we would still be driving horses.

@PhilipBlank Год назад

Everyone knows dealerships are going to be struggling to have the sales the’ve had with the challengers and chargers once things go to electric so they may be trying to get their last dollars in before it goes. And yeah it looks like a crazy car if the engines don’t blow!

@tommc3622 Год назад

@Philip Blank Their last customers, you mean. I got my '22 Challenger. I'll never buy an EV or a Fiat or Alpha. As a lifelong Mopar fan, I'll never buy another. Mopar is dead.

@benjamindavis4130 Год назад

The dealers are not the problem, the suckers willing to pay that much are the problem.

@PhilipBlank Год назад

Law of supply and demand! It’s only worth what people are willing to pay for it and the dealers are using that to their advantage for sure.

@Tigerloco70 Год назад

Exactly stupid ugly , car with being something , just because some stoned at dodge say so 😅

@tdigi88 Год назад

lol nice comment, Ben and I kno alot of suckas that will pay those markups. If they got the money💰 to buy they will cuz they gettin' fomo wen it's not even worth it❗️

@srtv8or109 10 месяцев назад

It is not the Suckers It is the owners of the dealership Is it true or false?😮 I get it to but I don't get it too much inflation on some of these cars and I work for the company so I watch a sea God bless you all if you make it you make it🙏🏽🤦🏾‍♂️

@benjamindavis4130 10 месяцев назад

@@srtv8or109 The owners do it because they’re actually selling. Once I saw a beat up car for sale that was very expensive totally not worth it and I told me grandpa, “hey whoever is selling that car is stupid asking that much”. My grandpa said, “ No, the stupid one is whoever buys it”

@montepeterson8996 11 месяцев назад

What Dodge did with the Challenger comeback was brilliant, awesome cars, awesome options, faster and more comfortable than my hotrods of the late 60's and early 70's and tunes too boot. It's too bad that the day is here in bold print that the consumer is so plentiful that a returning customer is not even thought of anymore. The customer has become non important and that kind of takes the fun out of it as fast if not faster than the governments attack ( assault) on the people. Imagine the new world the govt is trying to misprision us into there will be no dragstrips, no electricity to operate the electric car if you happen to be one of the very few allowed to own one. Commuter trains and massive walking.

@PhilipBlank 11 месяцев назад

That’s a great point on who their target customer is, they know they have a winner with the cars on the sheer number of people willing to purchase them that they did not have to focus on repeat customers when the car is exclusive. We’ll have to see long term how things go but I’m glad they are putting things out like this still until they cannot anymore.

@johnlawton443 11 месяцев назад

I see you are wide awake for the NWO plan to make sheepeople own nothing and be happy.

@karinbaker6516 7 месяцев назад

We had a 71-340 Demon, 71 Dart Swinger 340, 440 sixpack 70 challenger, 426 68 charger, 71 426 challenger, Saleen 570x challenger and others. When my dealer went to order me a 170 Demon for MSRP they were told to have me call them instead. For what they wanted, I and the dealer told them to stick it. I went c8 instead and E-Ray on order. Ford/Mopar Dealership:(

@PhilipBlank 7 месяцев назад

Wow what a legacy of a collection! That is sad to hear and has been the common theme across the board, the world’s gotten smaller and speciality cars have surged in demand making it impossible to sell them for a reasonable price. Hopefully you’ll be able to experience one in person, though the E-Ray looks incredibly fun and you should not have regrets on that move!

@roadtesttv Год назад

Good analysis of the Demon debacle. What color did you order and how much over MSRP did you agree to pay to secure the allocation?

@PhilipBlank Год назад

We’ve got the sublime green with the red interior, it’s gonna be bright like a watermelon. Local dealer had a few allocations so right about in the middle, more then desired but not outrageous, definitely worth getting to match the vin though.

@moparguy1449 Год назад

I own a 2018 Demon and the dealer never offered the Demon 170 to me (first right of refusal), and I had called and told them that I was interested and to call me back. Dodge should have offered this vehicle to 2018 Dodge Demon owners first. This vehicle should have been sold directly from Dodge to stop the greedy dealerships from price gouging. I believe Ford sold the GT500 directly from the manufacturer to avoid price gouging.

@PhilipBlank Год назад

Yeah it’s been crazy trying to find them, it will be interesting to see in the end how many Demon owners got a 170.

@devonp5079 Год назад

Tim Kuniski lied again

@gwiz2073 Год назад

Ford did it right with the Ford GT. But I think they had to keep it 2 years before they could sell them.

@8PMFORMULA Год назад

You are too entitled

@DelmarToad Год назад

For that kind of money you could buy a new Challenger with a V6 then send it to upfitter for the best possible Hellephant imaginable. You could go first class all the way, moneys no object and build a machine way better than Demon170.

@PhilipBlank Год назад

Right, but for that kind of money there are an infinite amount of other options you could do that would beat it on both the track and the strip, but the end results and being custom isn’t what will hold the value long term, I’d imagine that this car will continue to go up in value through the years especially if it has a 2018 vin mate. Only time will tell!

@DelmarToad Год назад

@@PhilipBlank you’re right. Ford GT or even AMG GT will be a better investment, hands down.

@harmonygritz2839 6 месяцев назад

So, let all of the original Demon owners just go down to their local Direct-Connection Mopar outlet, pony up $28,000.00, purchase a Hellephant crate motor, slap a 3.1 roots type supercharger on it and sell the first Demon powerplant to offset the cost of the new one

@PhilipBlank 6 месяцев назад

Haha that’s one way to do it! I always loved reading the stats on the Hellephant crates.

@marty1670 Год назад

The bullshit dealers making customers pay 200k over sticker price bites. As a Red-eye owner, I tried to get a 170 bought and they wouldn't even talk to me on getting on the list unless I wrote a 175k check in advance.

@somebluntdude Год назад

Thats absolutely insane. At some point, you can't even be mad solely at the stealerships but the absolute idiots that pay those prices.

@PhilipBlank Год назад

Yeah there was no mercy, money talks had been the name of the game I’ve seen.

@AK.__ Год назад

@@somebluntdude Why not to pay asking price if you have enough money, just to get it? These cars are very limited and will be priced even more. The unfortunate truth for many Demon owners, that they can't pay $400K for another car...

@backyardbucks824 Год назад

The only cars sold at msrp are probably the dealer owners cars that they will personally keep, and of course they will be built first, definitely not fair, or bogus msrp sales

@Tigerloco70 Год назад

You got the best of all the redeye , mine is narrow body torred ✌🏻

@rfair123 Год назад

It's a cool car, but for the what it's gonna take to actually buy one I'd rather have an ACR Viper.

@PhilipBlank Год назад

That wouldn’t be a bad decision, the Viper is definitely a top one in my books!

@ikemouser2580 Год назад

I just found out about the ordering nonsense, can I still order one through a dealer? Is there any chance of MSRP?

@PhilipBlank Год назад

It’s been wild, but I highly doubt there is anything still out there going for MSRP but it’s always worth looking! Some dealers still have them but most likely on a bidding system

@geclay Год назад

I will not pay more then MSRP , Got my 2015 Hellcat at msrp. Called The dealership , was told $25k over msrp.for 170. SO i guess im not getting one

@PhilipBlank Год назад

That’s fair! Although if you had an offer for one at $25k over that would have been a steal! At this point I don’t think they are looking for people to buy them, it’s how much they people buying them are willing to pay over.

@Acroposthion Год назад

Riddle me this - you just got an allocation, dropped a deposit, and are faced with Dodge’s disclaimer form. Regardless of paying MSRP, or $300k over - are you gonna check the box stating you paid OVER sticker, and therefore go to the back-of-line? Or are you gonna check the box stating you paid MSRP or less, and get your car sooner? Food for thought….

@PhilipBlank Год назад

So true! What I’ve seen it’s usually something else so you did buy it at MSRP and then billed some other way like through a second car. Always a loophole.

@Acroposthion Год назад

@@PhilipBlank - Yeah I’ve heard of that too. *”Come in and buy a $300k Scat Pack, and we’ll sell you a Demon 170 at MSRP.”*

@PhilipBlank Год назад

@@Acroposthion curious to see if Dodge will look into that or just turn a blind eye

@dickbeale9731 Год назад

I had no choice. The notary and salesperson were both right there when I signed the paperwork for mine. I got a confirmation of a matching VIN though.

@musskeeterbump 3 месяца назад

they will be extremely rare in 20 years many are getting destroyed by incompetent people

@PhilipBlank 3 месяца назад

Haha that’s a good point!

@Charlesbjtown 7 месяцев назад

Can't wait to see one at the track. In realistic weather, and a normal sized human.....9.40s @ 146 all day.

@PhilipBlank 6 месяцев назад

Gonna be great! It will have a learning curve for sure, not a set and forget machine.

@toddaulner5393 3 месяца назад

Free tires for life? Cause you are gonna nedd them! It cannot put the power down.

@PhilipBlank 3 месяца назад

The regular Demon spins and spins too haha

@bullittboost6046 9 месяцев назад

Other than the ridiculous mark ups. It’s a really sweet ride.

@PhilipBlank 9 месяцев назад

That’s my sentiment! Always love cars pushing the boundaries, and this one comes with the warranty!

@majormannfred Год назад

Simply looks like supply and demand...I'll never be able to get my hands on this beast...so will be checking out the Hellcat Jailbreak Redeye Edition or the SRT Super Stock instead.

@PhilipBlank Год назад

Those are both some sick options and really more than you ever need, the super stock is the obtainable Demon (not the 170 though haha)

@Scrapla1 5 месяцев назад

Spending $100k to run 9 second quarter mile? lol

@PhilipBlank 5 месяцев назад

Many people spend significantly more than $100k in a watch to tell them the time, so it’s all what you’re in the market for! haha sad the prices have to make entry so difficult.

@sergeantmasson3669 8 месяцев назад

Now discontinued.

@PhilipBlank 8 месяцев назад

It’s the end of the V8s as we know it.

@aliceburte9278 Год назад

Sad how they let this turn out. Then for the dealerships to screw their customers bad look

@PhilipBlank Год назад

I’d be curious if they had most of this planned or is it just going very against what they expected.

@christopherbrock8913 6 месяцев назад

We deserve to get screwed (as long as we spend lots of money on material crap everyday) - I own a Challenger, a Mustang, and a Camaro - so i am one of the biggest dummy to ever get screwed😂 - every time I walk into a dealership (they start running around trying to find the lubrication) 😂😂

@eddiethedodgeman6758 Год назад

Beautiful Challenger. Showing that Dodge is King of Muscle. Dodge needs to stay with gasoline. They can build some battery car. Sell the electric crap to battery boys So that car is faster than the Dodge Pro Stock? I haven't heard any of what your saying. You have to get those cars at a Direct Connection Dodge Dealer?

@PhilipBlank Год назад

The difference from the direct connection drag pack cars is the Demon 170 has a warranty and is street legal sold from factory as is through Dodge Dealerships. The “pro stock” cars are mostly custom cars with upgrades of parts you could buy through direct connection but it takes a lot more custom work and are full on race cars and not really in the same class. I’m sure people have nodded challengers with the drag packs that are faster but these are “stock” 1025HP Challengers.

@rxdoc2413 Год назад

Still looking for my Vin match lol. Quoted 100k over to 300k over msrp! Ridiculous. I have a 2018 Demon and it's just sad how Dodge treated us. I'm not giving up yet but looking slim to none.

@PhilipBlank Год назад

Good luck to you, you’ll hit a point where you just have to pay it or things hold and prices come down (though unlikely!)

@Leooen Месяц назад

When your 170 coming?

@PhilipBlank Месяц назад

Working on getting a video made on the 170 now! Work is keeping me too busy

@SUPERkevin0510 Год назад

Good video 👍🏻

@PhilipBlank Год назад

Thanks mate!

@tedzehnder961 Год назад

They had a coupla train cars of fenders they wanna sell off. People have been changing the pulley and re-mapping the thing and getting 1000 Hp .It may be cheaper to buy the car at the dealer though and getting a warrantee on top of it. I think if you had the mods done after market they could give you some grief. It is one beefy engine.

@PhilipBlank Год назад

Right, there are a ton of ways you can get similar results going custom but the perks from the company is they do the R&D and package it all up with a bow on top being the warranty. Most people don’t have the time or knowledge on who to work with to do it on their own through the custom route.

@marcturk4410 Год назад

I'm still wondering how the max wedge dodge and SS plymouth buyers felt when the Hemi darts and cudas hit the scene?🤓

@PhilipBlank Год назад

Haha Good point, water under the bridge now. There are so many ways to get upset so everyone is going to have to learn at some point that’s just the way it goes!

@drewa133 Год назад

Dealership in my town has 2 no one has claimed

@PhilipBlank Год назад

Oh that’s great! Some people below might be interested. Is the price scaring people away?

@tdigi88 Год назад

4:47 I agree with you They definitely should have gave it a different name And that badge doesn't Even look like a demon. I mean like You said Ghoul is better. Then coming out With another demon, The badge speaks for itself look at it What would you say it looks like Certainly not what the old demon Looked like..

@PhilipBlank Год назад

I’ve seen that people called the old badge a leprechaun so I think they wanted to change that a bit but changing the name would have been a step in the right direction.

@tdigi88 Год назад

@Philip Blank Yes definitely needed a change of name especially when it's the last call of the 7, And Whoever designed that new badge? I think they could have tried harder to make it look like the old demon But with a better-upgraded design.

@bultacowally 9 месяцев назад

SOOOO many people badmouth Stellantis, Dodge, and Challengers for quite some time now and now here is THAT automotive world fighting over a freaking car most likely not so much for the love of cars but most likely for the greedy ass love of the money they think they will make in a few years when the cars appreciate if that will even happen. The way things are going in the world it seems very likely the shit will soon hit the fan with all these mega dollar cars and prices will drop to levels way below what the cars were bought for. I had a '70 AAR cuda that I bought in 1973 that I sold in 2021 because I don't see prices rising much more on collector cars due to the fact that finances in this country are out of control and something has to give...soon. I got out when the getting was still good. Good luck greedy Demon buyers...

@PhilipBlank 9 месяцев назад

Ah sad to let a car go after that many years! Hopefully it served you well! But I feel you, so many are bought for the value instead of the incredible cars they were made to be. At least if the value did drop then they may get used more like intended! Just hard to balance value of the drive over the value of low milage.

@heavenhelpus479 Год назад

What no crate?

@PhilipBlank Год назад

Hah not this time, I believe the crate was used as a way to get around some of the regulations by selling the parts like the upgraded ECU and high octane switch outside of the car being as is from factory. They got everything in the car ready now so no extra tools or goodies, but they are including a little decanter and tumbler set with the same markings as the demon crate.

@OuTcAst1958 Год назад

all the names they use are classic dodge names is why because ghoul is not a classic name or branding.

@PhilipBlank Год назад

Very true! For a car this significant to the muscle car world they’d have the ability to make a new name if desired.

@imwaytogoodlookingtobeyour1188 Год назад

Even if the demon 170 was called something else it would still make the 2018 demon not that special anymore because this newer version is quicker with better innerparts...it's also not fair that normal demon owners got a first chance of purchasing....they should have gave an opportunity to everyone else to have something rare....not including those willing to buy extremely over sticker

@PhilipBlank Год назад

Haha I’d disagree, the 2018 Demon is still an absolute monster, 840 horse is no joke and an absolute blast. On paper the 170 is definitely more insane, but in reality the 2018 is still a gem, just like how cars from the 60s and 70s are still desirable. Value probably will be less but they are still worth more than when new so maybe they will get used a bit more now. Also the reason many 2018 Demon owners are upset is that they did not get first chance at them. Everyone got equal opportunity to the new one’s, sadly it’s turned into which 3000 people had deeper pockets.

@imwaytogoodlookingtobeyour1188 Год назад

@Philip Blank I'm not saying the previous demon was slow....it's very fast ....all I'm saying....this newer demon is faster....has better/stronger internals....which makes the previous demon less special.....it's still special but not as special as this newer demon

@PhilipBlank Год назад

@@imwaytogoodlookingtobeyour1188 totally, it’s also super interesting to me that almost no other companies are even trying in this market, everyone is pushing for what the C8 did with fast track cars, Ford and Chevy don’t really put much stock into drag anymore and definitely no foreign companies are attempting so long term the 170 will be in a league of it’s own.

@dickbeale9731 Год назад

The 2018 Demon prices are still holding very well. They have not come down. I actually think 2018 Demon prices will continue to go up. Ford made the GT in 2005, and when the new GT came out again in 2017, prices for the 2005/2006 version continued to go up. In fact today, the 2005/2006 models have appreciated more in value than the 2017 and newer models. Ferrari models follow similar patterns. I think 2018 Demon owners will be just fine.

@imwaytogoodlookingtobeyour1188 Год назад

@Dick Beale I just saw a recent video where the prices went down to 120 thousand at most which is a lot

@devonp5079 Год назад

Tim Kuniski treated Demon owners and Dodge loyal customers like crap. He Lied Again🤡

@PhilipBlank Год назад

Yeah that’s a tough spot to be in for him, but definitely not helping out their reputation.

@perryalexander5868 Год назад

Dodge is going to lose a thousand customers over this watch. This last call was a mess. Stellactus, I think is going to get rid of their performance section first SRT next dodge i think is next. All theses cars on the last call should have been built by demand. T.K word isn't worth anything after this mess. As a demon owner, I am disappointed.

@PhilipBlank Год назад

Curious, does this incentivize you to sell the one you own now? Very frustrating for sure but both cars are incredible on their own.

@youtubecarspottersguide1 Год назад

id order a base no opt one seat car

@PhilipBlank Год назад

Probably could get you earlier in the que!

@youtubecarspottersguide1 3 месяца назад

@@PhilipBlank did find one in plum crazy dealer wants $100,000 over only 50 where built and 99 base cloth Interior

@harrybarry2291 11 месяцев назад

I love Mopar and the Hemi. With the markups and all, the 170 like always is a rich mans toy and the hell with most everyone else who would really love, cherish and appreciate a 170. I must have one. Will my Harry Barry $23,535.25 ( twenty three thousand five hundred thirty five dollars and twenty five cents ) bag it for me ?

@PhilipBlank 11 месяцев назад

The 170 definitely walks the line between being the car man’s car or the collectors car, and at the moment it’s leaning far more into the collectors car so it’s getting the collector prices. Might have to add in $200k to your $23k sadly!

@harrybarry2291 11 месяцев назад

@@PhilipBlank Good reply, I love it. If I had it, I would be very afraid to drive it for fear of theft, vandalism or reckless drivers. It would be far less risky and probably less costly to have a standard Hellcat twin turboed and altered up to that incredible 170 muscle. Any dealerships who mark up are goughing the public. There should be a law against it punishable by loss of franchise.

@Mexicantours Год назад

Reality is…ITS STILL JUST A CAR, egos for low self esteem.

@PhilipBlank Год назад

Haha true cars are still cars but the 170 is one wild piece of engineering and a testament to the incredible work put in from the development that I’m happy they made!

@Mexicantours Год назад

@@PhilipBlank it’s for shallow ego people

@tommc3622 Год назад

My prediction 10 years from now: Jeep has been sold to yet another owner, Dodge, Ram and Chrysler are dead and gone, and Stellantis has pulled out of the American market entirely.

@PhilipBlank Год назад

Only time will tell on that!

@reloadingdontshoot1 Год назад

There are a few dealerships up here in Canada that have the 170 for $400K+. I don't care how "limited" they are or if it's end-of-line, no modern Dodge Challenger platform is worth $400K. Absolute scam

@PhilipBlank Год назад

That’s absolutely wild! Time will tell their worth and what people are willing to pay.

@noordhillon2984 10 месяцев назад

@@PhilipBlank a quick questions how much is a redeye jailbreak widebody challenger worth in the states rn? I got one in Canada for MSRP from the factory so I was just wondering what its worth in the states because of the CRAZY markups. I might consider reselling it as soon as I get it.

@crazyprepper5400 Год назад

Lol 99k more like 300

@PhilipBlank Год назад

Haha right, it’s only what people are willing to pay for it I guess!

@twitchkillgod2985 Год назад

Peak hp is 1100

@PhilipBlank Год назад

So wild they can keep everything together with that kind of power

@jakede565 3 месяца назад

The original Demons 100 times better

@PhilipBlank 3 месяца назад

That’s debatable with this really just being a higher power version, but I definitely prefer the wide body kit and front wide tires on the 2017! Unless you’re talking about the 71’ Demon 340, then they’re hardly comparable haha

@TruckGoesVroom Год назад

Your hand movements are distracting. Cool demon and trx

@PhilipBlank Год назад

I definitely talk a lot with my hands haha

@TylersRapPromo Год назад

@@PhilipBlank I think it evokes emotion and makes you a strong speaker 💪 nice vid

@fartdonkey8290 Год назад

Are you Ricky bobby

@PhilipBlank Год назад

@@fartdonkey8290 shake and bake baby

@fartdonkey8290 Год назад

@@PhilipBlank shake and bake is dead. Mr Dennit said it's my time now

@jjsrt8 Год назад

They should've sold directly from dodge direct connection not through dealership

@PhilipBlank Год назад

Right, I wonder how they could have fairly distributed them with the demand so high.

@bossally1603 Год назад

Dealers aren’t marking them up people are calling and offering these numbers

@PhilipBlank Год назад

Little bit of both, people who are calling to not offer those numbers don’t have a shot, the dealers are holding them at a certain amount and then waiting for someone to come along to pay it or bid it up. It’s worth what people are willing to pay for it so the dealers are just taking advantage of the opportunity really.

@dickbeale9731 Год назад

That’s not true.