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The Mac hate is outstanding. I’m not saying he’s great or anything but to be in an offense with a terrible OC, zero weapons, and a horrible O Line. Yeah no shit he was gonna fail he was set up to do so.
@@JohnSmith-nj4zq no one has helped him develop. I’m not saying his the next Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes, but he looks like he can be a decent QB with help. You just need to develop him but he’s got nothing
What Mac needs is a fresh start with a new team in a backup role with an experienced starting QB as his mentor. He was humbled by New England and their lack of supporting weapons. But I believe that he can work his way back up the leaderboard if he puts his mind to it (just look at how good he was in college).
I can almost see Mac following the career of Jim Plunkett. A number 1 pick for New England, Plunkett never reached his true potential. A short stint with San Francisco left him banged up and his career looked like it was over. Plunket was picked up by the Raiders, as a backup QB he had the opportunity to heal up and learn a different system. He began to show the talent that was there and ended up winning a SB with the Raiders.
@@pityumarkus7326 i agree with this take 100%. Honestly I think he gets traded to a backup needy team. With Jameis Winstons contract expiring the Saints could pick him up, maybe the vikings, ffs even the rams wouldn't be bad to learn behind Stafford. My point being, I think he"ll be an extremely Cousins-esque QB elsewhere and I honestly hope he wins a super bowl somewhere else after how NE and Jones failed one another.
As time goes on, you have to really admire the career Brady had. The Patriots had two Hall of fame guys during their run. I would argue the rest were at best above average, at worst well below. The Belichick aura as far as team building has faded. Great coach no doubt. Even a great QB doesn't win 6 titles without a great coach. But the offense has been anemic for years. Brady propped that up, and the defense won them their last title . That 2019 Patriots team had nobody, we thought Brady was washed. But looking back, it's a wonder he even won the division with that squad. You only need to look at what he did in Tampa his first year. He led a terrible but talented squad to a championship. New England hasn't been close since Brady left. Mac Jones just doesn't have the talent to make up for what's missing. He's not Tom Brady.
Patriots lost a lot of good coaches especially for the offensive line around the time Brady was leaving. I think they are more than just a QB away from being Super Bowl contenders again
Nah even if Brady was on this team he’d be getting thrashed too. This team has NO offensive line, no qb can save this not even a mobile one like Murray
@@kennypowers1945that's false Brady would still be better. He had the worst oline in the NFL in 2022 and still threw 4700yds 25tds 9ints and won his division and went to the playoffs. Brady was the reason for the Pats dynasty
Really sucks seeing all the hate Mac gets. Despite what a lot of people think, he wasn’t the cocky kid coming out of college. Dude was always happy and smiling, garnering the nickname “Joker” from his time at Alabama. He was the coach of a sorority flag football team in his spare time. I think people mistake his confidence for being cocky. If he gets some weapons around him or has a fresh start somewhere, he could live up to his 1-15 potential. Would love to see him smiling and having fun again.
As a pats fan I’m not upset with Mac I’m upset with the organization as a young player they gave him no weapons to work with they just thought he would be another Brady step in an lift everyone around him he is a great player and has showed moments of promise but they never gave him the pieces to get there
He’s terrible stop saying we don’t have weapons all season our defense kept us in games close games he just couldn’t get the job done everyone was quick to criticize cam but now it’s not Mac fault
@@vestsfamilyis that's defense, and that's all Bill cared about and that is why he is no longer here. He did nothing for the offense, especially an offensive line. Zip zero zilch. Guys Parker and Juju would get passes in the hands and drop the ball.
@@vestsfamilyidk man. You look at the tape so many of these interceptions were receivers popping the ball up. His line has been meh, running game even more meh. Overall I think we are realizing there was no “patriot way.” It was the “brady way.” It was Tom constantly bailing out all the above. In conclusion I just fail to believe Jones wouldn’t have had a better start of his career with the 49ers.
Awesome video. Former Mac believer and probably still am but watching him pre draft process you hit the nail on the head. It showed in his tape in the small glimpses he played where when he saw pressure he would panic or his footwork would just get sloppy. He showed it a ton in his years at NE and pretty consistently towards the end of his rookie year. Id add the talent surrounded by Mac showed more of how low his ceiling is. I think hes better than a guy like Sam Howell but I do believe Mac is super sped up allowing for defenses to take advantage on his weaknesses (arm strength). Mac can turn it around but he seriously needs to identify how he can slow down the game again.
Thank you! I think you're spot on with the talent around him and arm strength as well. At Alabama his weak arm showed less because he could just air it out to Smith and Waddle
Great video. As a Pats fan I really believed in him until that Colts game. A lot of the previous games this year, MAC had done what he needed to do to win the game but poor receiver play in the clutch cost us the games. I guess all the drops and failed toe drags were preventing me from seeing all these major flaws MAC had that were put on full display against the Colts and Giants. Like against the Dolphins in week 2, MAC could have stood tall and took a hit on that throw to Gesicki on 4th down, but he faded backwards and Gesicki couldn’t catch it in stride for the 1st.
That really is the thing with the Pats this year. Everyone is blaming him for the terrible record now because Zappe is doing solid (sometimes), when it really was a combination of everything (the QB, bad WRs, inconsistent running game, inconsistent O-line, poor special teams play, bad coaching decisions, etc.). Hell, even the defense is guilty of giving up A LOT of big plays on 3rd and 4th downs that take away time of posession, but no one ever wants to talk about that for some reason.
Even with the lack of weapons around him, he should still be showing flashes of star potential. I just don’t see it though. Even in a better situation, I don’t see his ceiling being anything other than Jimmy Garoppolo-esque.
Great video man. I will say that Mac was pretty cocky coming out of college, abd he was certainly humbled. However, he is just not getting any help while his recievers and Offensive line are among the worst in the league. All the star QB's in this league have at least one star reciever and at least a solid o line. Yes Travis Kelce counts. I think Mac will go elswhere and be solid. I hope we win at least one more game so that we don't draft a top QB. I don't want his career to be ruined by Bill Belifraud.
I agree with the offensive line and receiver however I think he is too affected by pressure to truly succeed in the NFL right now. That isn't to say he can't get over it.
With all due respect, I can't argue with this. Obviously, Mac's NFL failure was influenced by the incompetence of Matt Patricia (Now the Eagles' DC) and Joe Judge (Now the Pats' vice head coach) as offensive coaches, but he nevertheless never did anything to prove he could overcome adversity outside of his rookie year. And when I say that, I'm talking about his poor accuracy, lack of good decision-making, and most importantly his excuses. When Bill O'Brien returned to New England, I thought I would see improvement from the embattled 3rd-year passer, but after seeing how poorly he played (224 of 345 for 2,120 yards, 10 TDs and 12 INTs, 77 passer rating), I knew I was wrong. Bottom line here is that Mac is not much more than a bust. It's not completely his fault he fell from grace, but at this point, it's time for the Pats to let him go and find a new QB in his place. Idk if they'll pick a QB in the draft next year, trade for a veteran starter, or pick one out in free agency, but regardless of what happens this offseason, I can assure you that Mac would've fared better had they kept Josh McDaniels as OC and actually built around him. Hopefully he'll find a team where he can start fresh, even though he'll likely be a backup for the remainder of his career.
Patriots O line ranks dead last in time allowed in the pocket for the qb. How do you expect a qb to throw the ball with no time with there best receiver being pop douglas
@@lukekarvelis84 I never said it was all his fault. Obviously, the pass O-Line is indeed bad, but Mac certainly hasn’t helped things with his poor decision-making. I’m sorry, but Mac doesn’t have what it takes to be a franchise quarterback. That isn’t automatically to say his career is over, but he’s likely to be a backup for however much longer his NFL career lasts.
Thing is he actually was decent in handling adversity. Last year, his best game came against the Vikings, which the Pats lost due to questionable officiating, bad defense, and TERRIBLE special teams play. In his worst game against the Raiders, despite all the stupid things that occured throughout and his bad performance, he still led a would-be game-winning touchdown drive that was wasted due to a defensive choke-job and even more questionable officiating (we all know how that ended). In the Bengals game, after getting completely shut out through 3 quarters, Mac and KB came alive and lit up the Bengals D to score those 2 unanswered touchdowns (granted there was a little help from the the refs). The Pats had another chance at a potential game-winning drive when Judon stripped Chase, but then Stevenson ruined it by losing that fumble on the 4-yard-line (Another reason to hate Patricia, the red zone offense was dead-last). Finally, in the last Bills game, Mac made a very valiant effort in trying to keep up with the scoreboard as the kickoff team gave up 2 TOUCHDOWNS by throwing for 3 of his own, and the picks he threw are not all on him either, he was trying do dig his team out of a hole he had nothing to do with making. Overall, I wouldn't say Mac was "good" in 2022, but he was still solid and effecient, and the reason why most don't look at it better is because of him being placed in a lousy coaching situation while experiencing Marty Schottenheimer levels of bad luck at the same time.
@@Scott_Dunbar_II You have a point there. It’s a real shame that Mac couldn’t regain his original form, but it really goes to show you that he had the wrong coaches for the job last season, and that’s what kinda screwed him over this season, even with Bill O’Brien back as OC
@@Milwaukeeroadfan Certainly. This year it's KIND OF the same situation. The offensive coaching has improved, but the bad luck still persists (missed calls, terrible drops, defensive mistakes, etc.) and even worse, his mentality has regressed. However, the games that I've seen where he has played well proves to me that he has the ability to be a starter in the NFL. Unfortunately though, it's likely not on the Pats, and as a fan of the dude, he needs a hard reset somewhere else.
One thing I saw early in the season was that the protection was so bad Mac had to concentrate on getting the ball out so fast that he started to make more bad decisions, and when the team got behind he tried to make a play when he should just throw the ball away. But the three weeks or so when no one knew who would start took away any confidence he might have had left. They should just have gone to Zappe so they could at least see what he could do.
I put Belichick at fault for Mac Jones’ demise. Coach didn’t give his complete support to Mac and failed to develop Mac’s abilities. Instead his wore down Mac’s confidence. Belichick is coaching as if it is the 1990’s. Feel bad for Mac, he has talent.
I don’t even blame Belichick the coach. Belichick the GM has been terrible for years. Towards the end of Brady’s time with the Patriots, his best weapon was an aging Julian Edelman. We’ve missed on so many draft picks, signed a lot of bad contracts, let key players walk, and losing Scarnecchia started the downfall of the Offensive Line.
First off BB was not responsible for the drafting of Jones....that decision came from up.above. Secondly can we please dtop.the idiotic Bill wanted Mac to fail? No. You're right BB wanted to have a couple of bad seasons to prove Mac was a mistake. He was the reason Jones messed wide open receivers and made horrendous reads over and over again.
Same thing happened to Bledsoe. The O line was weak until for whatever reason, got better when brady took over. The one difference between Tom and Drew was how fast Tom made reads.
lack of great receivers and good oc did him dirty the second year, and that really threw him off this season with the teapot in charge of offense/playcalling and not the best receivers, though juju and Parker and gesicki are good.
I had hope for Mac and wish him well. Mental side of the game is huge and something seemed to happen last year to destroy his confidence. His pocket presence and movement make him a sitting duck. Zappe seems to take far less direct hits and climbs the pocket to get clear throws. As I have heard players say when you play not to get hurt you get hurt.
Everyone knew that Mac Jones didn’t have the arm talent of most of the successful QBs in the league. I think Bill and everyone else was hoping he could make up for that with ungodly mental toughness, super-human ability to process the game and an insane work ethic like another QB we all know. Unfortunately, there will only ever be one Tom Brady. And you can’t coach one into existence which is what I think Bill thought he could do.
he’s just not good simple as that, you can’t even say that “he has no weapons” or “he has no offensive line” because Zappe has managed to play fine despite being in the same situation as Mac Jones.
After all this, i would be ok with keeping mac as the starter if we invest in Oline and Receivers this offseason. No matter qho we get at quarterback, this team is not a playoff caliber team without weapons.
There was only one college year to evaluate him and that was during a Covid season. He was too hyped and his natural talents could never live up to that.
I'm way late to this party but many QBs don't fail alone. That nails it describing Mac Jones experience as a Patriot. As a native Pats fan, I was disgusted by the mismanagement. At the very least, his opportunity to succeed was ruined by mishandling. At worst he was very possibly a victim of intentional sabotage by a vindictive HC. IMO, Belichick is a hypocrite. Belichick expects EVERYONE ELSE to be accountable and team driven so, WHY ISN'T HE??!! I put the blame squarely on COACHING for the decline of Mac. Let's not forget Mac's success. Season 1: Made Playoffs @ 10-7 and pro-bowl alternate: That doesn't happen by accident in the NFL! Mac wasn’t flawless but deficiencies were completely coachable. Season 2: He loses a great OC, replaced by a couple meathead yes men with NO Offensive credibility!... Couple that with head scratching, uncomplimentary, offensive schemes/gameplans. Add the HC undermining Mac's confidence by benching him after ONE interception in a game! W*F!! How many other HCs would bench the starter after ONE interception early in a game??!! Answer: NONE!! Season 3: Under "sink or swim" duress with another questionable meathead OC, more inexplicable schemes/gameplans, and no support from an uncommunicative dis-engaged HC!! Recipe for failure ONLY! Was Mac Jones at all responsible for his decline? The answer is: MINIMALLY! Yes, he is high strung and impatient. Yes, he lost the team by calling out teammates for perceived failures. Yes, he was guilty of being a young immature player who made some poor decisions. None of those things were good, but he was understandably frustrated in dealing with an UNTENABLE situation!! I wish the best of success to Mac and my personal apology. I am embarrassed by what my team did to him. He should have had a 4th Pats year with a legit chance to thrive… It's abundantly clear that Belichick is a brilliant Narcissist. He's the best defensive mind the game has ever seen, but he has NO respect for offense and offensive players, and NO respect for the Owner that employs him. He has repeatedly undermined what was best for the team while claiming otherwise. Sitting Malcolm Butler in SB 52 threw ALL Players under the Bus! How was that best for the TEAM?! Players are human and all different. It's a HC duty to manage personalities and CREATE an atmosphere of SUCCESS for overall TEAM benefit! Ruining the starting QB consciously or unconsciously because he isn't "your guy" is Textbook NARCISSISM and absolutely NOT what is “BEST” for the TEAM! Belichick does what is best for his EGO! He may have cut his football teeth under Navy Athletics, and he may THINK he runs a team modeled on the military, but he does NOT! He FORGOT that EVERY serviceman swears an oath and is accountable to a higher authority! The Admiral or General, may not agree with or even respect The President, but it's their duty to their country to follow orders and to NEVER undermine or subvert “The Boss” or the MEN under their command. Belichick should never again be trusted with a HC position. He's borderline megalomaniacal, and a cancer in any position of authority. I would hire him as a DC with very minimal authority only. IMO, players were willing to endure the "Belichick Way" because they believed TB12 ensured a legitimate SB shot year after year. Yes, the defenses were equally important to the repeated success, but The GOAT was the GLUE that held it all together. When the glue dissolved, it unsurprisingly fell apart.
The dysfunctional environment that was fostered in the late days of Brady's tenure and in the years after, created the perfect storm for a young quarterback to fail in. He basically walked into a petty pissing contest between a coach and his former player and fell victim to the NFL's continual over valuation of Belichick assistants, whonkept taking jobs elsehwere trying to create something they weren't quaified to do. These over valued assistants completely tanked that crucial 2nd year of development and the Jones didnt recover from tailspin. The Patriots did him a solid by sending him back home in a trade and FINALLY admitting that if Belichick was allowed to stay, New England would have become THE MOST undesired destination for players.
Once you're afraid to be hit in the NFL, you're done. Brady's first preseason game, he was on the other side, facing Drew Henson who Brady finally beat out in Michigan. But Brady got more fired up, when he was hit. Drew Henson got hit and played in one NFL Game. He was terrified of being hit. Brady made our Patriots a double Dynasty!! 💯 🐐
@@BryantThompson-it4dz A team can hope but I did a whole video on draft picks and quarterbacks if you want to check it out. I hope he's good but you never really know
Another thing i think is worthy of mention here is the fact that when mac came off his ankle injury he wasnt 100 percent and in the game vs chicago he wasnt even the main starter he split reps with zappe not making excuses for everything that happened but that was an agregious ly awful descion that i think dont get enough attention
The patriots roster during Macs rookie was bad and somehow it has gotten worse each season. This year they pretty much said “hey, we know the oline is in shambles, receivers are subpar and our running scheme doesn’t work. So we are going to let your favorite safety blanket and best friend Jakobi Meyers leave for Vegas and replace him with an unstartable JuJu smith Schuster”
it sucks seeing patriots fan turn on him. Summer 2023 his isntagram was flooded with hate comments and even his wife's instagram was filled with pats fans telling her that her husband sucks. Partially biased because i got his jersey for xmas during his rookie season, but i really want him to succeed but i'm afraid he will never get another change with us
no, the story goes is that he showed he had immense potential his rookie season without any true talent around him... and then bill put him in the worst situations possible the next 2 years with bad olines, no elite weapons, a DC as his OC his second year, and no running game for most of his third... am i saying everything needs to be perfect for him? NOOOOO, he had a far from perferct roster his rookie season and still performed great for a rookie at the end of the day its bills fault, he now sees ghosts from getting hit so much bec he has no protection, and completely lost confidence... bill did exactly what you SHOULDNT do to a young QB, and i hope he dont do it again for his next Qb that he drafts in the coming draft
Mac is about to FEAST next season with Mayo at the helm.. I expect them to soup up that O Line and get back to a dink-donk Alabama style offense.. We saw it his rookie year, he's got potential to be top 10 in the league.. The bar is set so unbelievably low for QB's right now. We got 50 year old Flacco and Jared Goff looking like starting QBs.. LOL
6:47 Every QB gets hit. Herbert broke is rib cartlidge in 2022 and never missed a game. Other QB stay in the pocket throwing until they get hit. You can't wait until you have SF Oline around you. Most QBs don't and even Purdy gets hit. I really think Mac is a product of having a very good college career and NFL level is a hard leap.
Hey! Not a lot of other "failures" can say that their employer is bound to honor their $16 million 4-year contract if they are cut and leave the NFL. He comes out a winner! That will buy a lot of good cigars!
Well Zappe did much, much worse than Jones. Patriots need a rebuild on the o-lines badly. And they badly need a WR1. There were only 2 games where lines and receivers both clicked and that's when Jones did well.
Great video. Although I'm not on the bandwagon for Mac. I think we've had more than enough time to see what he can do and I don't think that he's it for us. I don't think any of the QBs that we have now or it. We need to get a quarterback this next draft
Seems to me the solution is simple. He needs an O-Line. His time in NE is done, and I hate that. If he went somewhere like the rams who have an aging Stafford or maybe even Denver, who have given up on Russel Wilson, he could return to pro bowl form, teams that have a guy he could learn from, but also an o-line who will give him more than 1.5 seconds. Bill really misused him, and maybe he just isnt cut out for the NFL, but considering his best season was his rookie year and he still had a proper WR like Nelson Agholor, he might still have a starting job. Yet now, fans like me have to sit and watch Zappe do the same damn thing Mac was doing, but with an o-line who havent given up on the guy they are meant to protect for more than a second. I hope he gets another starting gig, and has a successful career, because what the Patriots have done giving him an OC roulette is depressing
The true reason Mac Jones fell apart: Bill Belichick. Bill the coach is great. Bill the GM built a roster devoid of talent and having overpaid receiving “weapons”. Consider that Bailey Zappe *also* isn’t playing well, and we let Malik Cunningham go.
Mac Jones had everything in Alabama, probably the only reason he was good. Once faced with adversity he turned into a whiny brat often lashing out at coaches and teammates or leaking to the press. I am so glad he is outta NE. Two to three more years as a backup and then bounced from the NFL- not anywhere near his over hyped talent 😂
Jesus Christ 2021 I spent hundreds of $ of cards of his. The first year I only watched highlights then in Oct of 2022 I knew he was afraid. Are college defensive lines as big as NFL? Well yes some. But not nearly as fast Got a guy who weighs 310 lbs and can run as fast as he is big. Bellichek works with Zappe enough and he'll be good
