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"Krause deserved more credit than he got, but wanted more credit than he deserved." - Steve Kerr

And look what happened to the bulls after scottie and mj left. No chip since then.

"A slovenly, disheveled gnome" Boy the media was 1000x more ruthless back then

Yet Krause never ever won without MJ, Scottie and Phil!

Bulls had the chance to keep MJ , Pippen and Phil Jackson instead they keep the GM , really ?

Bulls won nothing before MJ and nothing after MJ, but "organizations" win championships 🤔.

Kinda like a real life Mr. Krabbs. Except his name is Mr. Krumbbs.

Bulls owner should've fired Krause instead. Then they could have kept on Phil, MJ and Scottie for another 2-3 year title run.

OK,if Krause was that good why didn't Bulls win after Jordan.

Even 22 years later as a Bull, Michael Jordan can still make the world stop to go watch him. His charisma and legacy is enduring. Those 90s Bulls are also just way more interesting than any championship team since.

You ever sit back and think 💭.....Lebron lost 6 finals 😂😂 and wants to be called the greatest ever

His ego destroyed the team he wanted it to be about him more than anything

the credit goes to the players, at the end of the day they are the ones that play

Ahhhhh! It alls makes sense now! Jerry Krause is Mr Swackhammer from space jam! The bad guy who wanted to send MJ to moron mountain lol they look just alike!

Michael Jordan was the heart and soul of the Bulls. Jerry Krause created the entire Bulls' skeleton around MJ.

Typical case of when you just can't get out of your own way. Build a team and allow it work, you don't gotta command respect like a f**king Admiral.

Neither the Kobe or LeBron doc will draw as much interest as this MJ doc though. And it's not because of coronavirus. It's because MJ is more popular and interesting than either one and the nostalgia aspects.

To think, we could’ve probably had Bulls vs Lakers in the 2000 Finals. Kobe and Shaq Lakers vs the Jordan and Pippen Bulls.

Why does Krause remind me of Seinfeld's Newman lol ?

That flute music in 2:45 is so 80's (and good)... Anyone knows it's name?

So did the bulls win anymore rings after mj left jerry? The owner should've had a stop to breaking up the bulls

I just dislike the fact that they are portraing him as the only or main villain. He would be the villain if the owned the team, but he was an employee. Reinsdorf owns the team, and he could have fired Krause, paid Pipper accordigly and kept the dinasty from such a bizarre ending. Krause and Reinsdorf are both accountable.

There's no denying Krause's scouting and team building capabilities. He made a great trade to get Scottie, picked Kukoc from the second round, signed Rodman and he was the man to bring then inexperienced Phil Jackson as the coach. His decisions helped turn the Bulls into one of the most popular teams in sports. Also let's not forget, he was close to trading for T-Mac too. I definitely agree he was a big part of how things got messed up. No matter what went through between him and Jackson, you can't just fire a then 5 time champion coach coming out of a two-peat. Again, he deserves every bit of credit of that legendary Bulls team; but that didn't give him the right to tear everything apart.

There would've been no number six if Krause had gotten his way .... he wanted to end it and start a complete rebuild after 5. This pressure for a rebuild from Krause caused Phil to walk away after six and hence Jordan to quit. Krause is totally toblame.

“Why do you take it from this guy?” - Space Jam

Over Jerry's next 5 years as GM, the Bulls won only 25% of their games without Jordan, compiling a miserable 96-282 record. They say be careful what you wish for, you might get it. Jerry wanted to show his genius winning a championship without Jordan. Well, he got his wish but his teams struggled to win any games at all, let alone be competitive. The 1999 Bulls still hold the shot clock era record for scoring only 49 points in a game. Maybe, just maybe, the Bulls missed Jordan and his 31.5 points per game more than Jerry anticipated.

The only man who ever stopped MJ from winning more championships and never played a minute.

Jerry Krause is the epitome of a Napoleonic complex. He also ended the GOAT's Bulls Career early. Whats not to hate about this guy?

He should have never risen above being a scout. He created a toxic and destructive culture as GM. He failed as a leader.

So Mr. Krause, since your ( Serious Note - Unfortunate Passing ), how have the Bulls looked since your claim of wanting to do it without MJ? Could you have imagined he and Scottie staying and tutoring guys like Ben Gordon, Jay Williams and Derrick Rose? The Bulls could have been contenders throughout the 2000's and even though the champs were aging the younger talent could have come in and been shown the ropes by the "Best", and that would have paid HUGE Dividends for the Organization and them individually. Why wasn't that ever thought of? It's because a certain GM wanted to prove he could do it ALL ON HIS OWN! Sad part is he would have eventually gotten his accolades if he would have been more of a team player when it came to personel and the, then Elder Statesmen. If that run continued throughout the late 90's - the 2000's and JK would have found a way to mend fences with Phil, MJ, and Scottie, he would have been cemented with them having 30 years of success! There's no way anyone could deny and not acknowledge him for those type accomplishments and Phil, MJ and Scottie would have recognized him because he did basically put the first roster together to start it all... The Bulls could have continued to run the Eastern Conference, but as always, here in the U.S. in particular, egos, jealousy, envy, and greed always find a way to supercede over everything else. Sad, really Sad.....

At the end jerry built the chicago franchise and traded all the people who made chicago great, however he is the sole reason michael, phil, scottie left. He had little man ego. He wanted the attention and praise and praise obviously went to jordan and the team. Im sure he hated seeing phil winning another 4 on his own with lakers.

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How did winning an NBA title without Jordan work out for ya Jerry?? Can’t hear ya pal!!

I can't wait to see episodes 3 & 4 tonight. As someone who lived through the Bulls Era, I still don't remember half of what happened...

1996, Jordan was so mad at Krause he was 15 mins away from signing with the Knicks if Bulls didn’t give him a check for $35mil

Jerry Krause is the real life Mr Spacely from The Jetsons.

Jerry Krause's moves from 1987-1990 were all low-key brilliant. Scottie & Horace in 87. Drafting Perdue in 88 who is traded for a future HoFer by 95. Phil promoted by 89. Drafted Toni by 90. That's the skeleton of two 3peats.

The Chicago Bulls still won 6 championships. The 3rd most in NBA history only tied by the Warriors in 2018. Some people are still crying over spilled milk that they could've won more?

When we see the glass half empty, most us just assume. We assume all the championships the Bulls "coulda" won. But in sports, there are no guarantees. Didn't we believe the Warriors were winning it all last year?

May he rest in peace!

his name will never be clean, just like the crumbs on his shirt

We have no titles without Jerry Krause, yes he didn't get Jordan but he build two different teams around Jordan/Pippen Drafted a Signed Pippen,Grant-,Cartwirght,Armstrong,Paxson,Perdue,Hogdes,Hopson,King,Levingston,Williams

95 to 98 was some of the most memorable moments in basketball history

To be fair, Jordan hasn’t done well as the President of the WIzards nor as an owner of the Bobcats.

He called this man a gnome 😂

The irony is that while most people hate him, there would be no dynasty without Jerry Krause. The sad thing is the dude could have been one of the most admired figures in sports history if it weren't for his petty ego. The Bulls would have won 7-8 championships imo if he kept the team together. But he let his obsession of trying to prove he can build another dynasty from scratch without MJ, Phil and Scottie ruin him. He took a huge bet on himself and lost big. He could have let the dynasty naturally run its course, and then instead of blowing the team up completely and starting from scratch, he could have gradually made moves as the dynasty Bulls aged, and doing so would have actually allowed the Bulls to have long-term success even after MJ retired. I'm not saying championship level teams necessarily, but at the very least competitive playoff teams on a consistent basis. Instead, Bulls fans got Brent Berry, Fred Hoiberg, Tyson Chandler and Eddy Curry years after the dynasty was blown up in 98. Absolutely atrocious Bulls teams since 98 except for the Rose years (and Gordon, Hinrich, Deng, Nocioni years to an extent). Sad it was a stubborn ego that robbed the world of seeing the GOAT play out the last 2 years of his prime, and potentially win 1-2 more championships, as well as being the main reason the Bulls became a laughingstock of the NBA after 98. Oh well...

People see the glass half empty. If MJ lost in 1999, those same people would've said the Bulls hung on one year too long. It's like LOST's 5th and 6th seasons and Game of Thrones' 7th & 8th seasons.

Imagine how much egg was on Jerry’s face when Jackson later goes to LA and three peats. It basically makes the case that Jackson was really the brains behind all the bulls chips.

Did he win one without MJ????

Just listen to the barely held back contempt his peers and contemporaries have for the man. Despite all of that, this man persevered and did his job where others would have crumbled. I'm not gonna say I like Krause, but goddammit he has my respect.

Krause's ego really got the best of him. He was determined to let go of the best coach ever and wanted to replace him with... Tim Floyd. Enough said.

Despite everything was said about Krause he was the one who brought Scottie Grant and Phil to the team who carried the Bulls with MJ and convince Phil with the help of Text Winter to bring the triangle offence to life which helped to achieve their first three championships .. he was also the one who brought Kukoc and Kerr and with Rodman they provide the ideal support to MJ Scottie and Phil to win 3 more championships .. he may torn this dynasty apart but he also was part of it's foundation ... If he started rebuilding with the help of Phil and MJ he might had a couple more rings , on the other hand if he failed he will also be critisized so hard ... So I think he tried to do it without them to get the credits if he succeeded because in case of failing he will be the blamed one in either ways ..

Hold up jerry Krause 1989 Fired Doug Collins brought in Phil Jackson, put Tex winter on a higher platform and told them both to push the triangle offensive. In which they told Michael that his dominant solo offensive was not going to win a championship. And he was right... so they ran the triangle got the whole team involved then wallah! 1991 the bulls win there first championship Had a lot to do with Krause

The best GM in the league, the best Coach, the best FG% 3pt shooter of all time, the best rebounder ever, the best wingman ever, the best 6th man in the league. How much help does Jordan need???

Krause was supremely disrespected. Crazy that because MJ didn’t like Krause, all these MJ fanboys tear Krause apart. I guarantee MJ liked Krause, there wouldn’t be such hate towards the guy. Krause put that team in a position to succeed, always making great moves, trades, and draft picks to support the team. Then they grew with chemistry and what do you know, became a dynasty. It’s pathetic and sad how fans and players and whatnot treat this guy, even though he was making the right moves almost every single time lol, people think they know what they’re talking about...

Jordan would never win without Krause. Michael Jordan is a trash individual. This is why LeBron is the king, best ever and GOAT! He's loved everywhere and looked up to. King James. LeBron.

So the Bulls were terrible. Had the 3rd pick in the draft. Got lucky that Jordan wasn't taken. then MJ was scoring 63 points in a playoff game vs The Celtics as a Rookie. And this dude convinced himself that it was his work that won those chips?

Rebuilding??!!! Up to now, Chicago never won championship again!That’s what we call ego and pride!

history will sadly never be kind to krause because you don’t ever wilfully disband dynasties. and reinsdorf’s antiquated policy of never renegotiating a contract is ridiculous. how do you go from 6 titles in 8 yrs to perpetual mediocrity for decades? bulls and cowboys seem to hv the same issue but at least the cowboys are one of the most valuable sports franchises on the planet.

I agree with what Jay said. You have to look at reinsdorf because he's the owner. How or why would you allow this man to dismantle your winning team? And your winning coach, why would you allow him to fire him.

Funny how growing up seeing Bulls win titles I thought of Phil, MJ, Pippen, Rodman and the sidekicks Horace, Kerr, Paxson, Kukoc, Wennington, Longley, BJ Armstrong, Ron Harper. Never once did I even know or pay attention to Jerry Krause or Reinsdorf.

Krause had a big "ego".

I can't wait for tonight.

Say MJ lost in 1999 vs the Spurs. Would we look at him differently at 6-1 in the Finals than 6-0? Because Bill Russell was 11-1 and Kareem was 6-4. MJ would no longer be called an UNDEFEATED CHAMPION.

Jealousy is a curse.

Even tho Krause was the reason why the team broke up at the end of 98, he still gotta be credited of drafting talent like Scottie, Horace grant, kukoc, and trading for Rodman and bill cartright, dude was good finding talent

Discovers Phil from the CBA and then promotes him. Signed Kerr in 93 and Harper in 94. Bulls getting Pippen, Grant, Cartwright, Perdue, Hodges, Armstrong, Kukoč, Kerr, Harper, and Rodman is all thanks to JERRY KRAUSE.

Why is ESPN blocking videos to viewers outside the US?? Without sports this is the closest of sports entertainment we can get and you block it??? What is wrong with you???

The Last Dance's Episode 4 was lit! 🔥 I know Episode 1 through 8 was leaked and I'm NOT trying to go ahead. But from what I've seen so far, Episode 4 is the most enjoyable I've seen.

I wish you could just play ALL the episodes in one night. This is bs.

Other than drafting Michael Jordan which goes to Rod Thorn, Jerry Krause built the 1990s Chicago Bulls dynasty. Krause has been dead for 3 years. People should stop killing him for the break up.

Imagine if Jordan, Pippen, Jackson and Krause worked well together from the very beginning, the Bulls would have won the most championship in the NBA.

As great as MJ is, he doesn't win a single championship without Krause. What Krause said about "organizations win championships" was wrong. What he told Phil was wrong. But we shouldn't dismiss everything he did.

Sound like every white guy from that time 😂

"Organizations win championships" - Is that why the bulls have been trash since jordan left and never been close to winning ever since? They had a diamond of a player and never chose to acknowledge it!

He had destroyed the best team on the planet earth!

Jerry Krause wrote the greatest script for the greatest player & deserves his credit period. 30yrs later we are still talking about a GM...

The biggest mistake in NBA history 💯 smh

This is the same in the corporate world except without the camera on the employees that makes the company perform and profit good. The the bosses takes all the credit both literally and figuratively.

He never got the credit he derserved. Excluding MJ, he found all the pieces for these teams

Lol, Steve Kerr was genuinely perplexed, why would you wear a Bulls shirt inside out to hide the logo instead of like, I don't know, just wear a regular shirt properly!

A guy who gave the media nothing to chew on gets later on hated by media......what a surprise 😂😂😂. Krause did the big decisions after all whether you accept it or not and those decisions brought 6 chips. Could it have been more? Maybe. But 6 is great enough. Yes talent is important but also is the front office. Its a team. And other teams always try to impersonate the dominant team i mean look at the Warriors. They came and everybody jacked up 3's. So Krause did the right thing being so secret about his front office antics. Was he a douchebag? Probably but hey some people are that way and he did a good job keeping the team together because money became a big issue. Jordan didn't like Krause because we all know Jordan has complexes and all to be fair and Krause didn't always kiss Jordans good enough. I mean what that Krause just said is really that bad? None. So i don't understand the hate around Krause. Not from former nba employees and definitely NBA fans 😂💀

Krause came to Europe and he lured Toni Kukoc for 3 frickin' years to come to Bulls.

I ♥ the Jerry Krause dancing in the airplane scene in Episode 4! 🤣 I love MJ dry snitching Scott Burrell! We see Carmen. I love Horace saying the Pistons were straight-up b's! MJ shook their hands when he lost each time.

This is just my opinion, but if there's drama, both sides had egos between players and management. Like what about the Spurs winning titles, are we just going to credit the players + coaches?

Funny how Dennis Rodman told Madonna after sleeping with her that he hates her songs! 🤣 I never knew another black dude who loved Pearl Jam more than him! Time to go loop some Madonna songs before 6 PM. 🎶

Krause always gave me a "slimeball" vibe.

I remember that 1998 playoff run by MJ clearly. The Pacers nearly beat them. In Game 6, MJ just slipped and fell at the end. He didn't shoot particularly well all season long. Oldest player to win MVP & Finals MVP in the same season.

bill belichick is the new jerry krause

Jerry Krause was the unpopular fat kid in the neighborhood who just wanted to be part of the cool kids but never got the respect from them no matter what he did. He still has friends and family alive. We should stop bashing him.

Bulls with Krause never came close to winning after Krause idiotically broke up Phil, MJ, Scottie and the 90s Bulls. This proves that it was the core of Phil, MJ, Scottie that was responsible for the Bulls' success NOT Krause. Krause was just lucky to have had MJ.

Undefeated champion or Finals perfection is viewed completely differently than being 6-1 or 6-2. Tom Brady gets blasted for losing 3 times in the Super Bowl.

Here's the bottom line why the Bulls collapsed, in one word, ego. The Bulls were filled with egocentric, me-first personalities, such as Krause, Jackson, Jordan, Pippen, and Rodman. They managed to come together as a team, for a short time, but when they all reached the pinnacle, their egos all exploded, and it drove everyone apart. It also didn't help that Jordan was not getting younger. Krause was the opposite of guys like Auerbach, who were about self-sacrifice, and team-first to the core. That allowed him to retool and find new talent on the fly, recruit the next generation to step up to the plate.

Jordan is so petty. I do wonder why Krause told Phil Jackson that it was his last year coaching the team no matter if he went 82-0? Maybe Krause thought he was so good as a GM that he could build another title team without MJ,Pippen and Phil? As far as Pippens contract goes I do think its kinda dirty they wouldn't renegotiate his deal but then again Pippen was told not to sign it. I can understand Pippens hate for him with his contract situation but Jordan can hold a grudge like no other. I just really want to know what happened between Krause and Phil?

This guy Jerry Krause should have been Michael Jordans best friend! Allowed Michael to have a say who he brought in and allowed Jordan to retire when he wanted as a Chicago Bull. Then Jordan should of been allowed to buy into the Chicago Bulls ! But Krause grew jealous of Jordans success. That's kind of crazy!

All that I can say is this... Jerry Krause did his job well until he became humpty dumpty at the end, because this team was the greatest ever assembled. That ole saying, if it's not broke, don't fix it... There's no telling of what Jerry's legacy would've became if he had just let it be. I get the whole jealousy thing, but the job is that you do what you do and let them do what they do and you sit back enjoying watching what you assembled and be grateful and call it a day. Have a Coke and a smile and shut the f-up...

How tall was krause? He looks tiny but he is standing next to 6 '6 guys a lot. That is stupid to say a scout or coach had to have played basketball. I think the worst gms & coachs are ex all star athletes. The owners usually know zero ( hi Jim Dolan ) but larry brown was a great coach, chuck daly & riley was a bench player phil Jackson a little better but maybe a 6th or 7th man. Sometimes u can have a great talent for scouting & building a team without playing

Yes he did bring them together ... but he would have never had championships without Jordan, phill Jackson, pippen, and Rodman. Thanks for trying to be bigger than the players mate. You could have retired with 7 or 8 championships

Not only that, if he doesn't make a trade like with Bootch, I just saw Webenyama. If he doesn't make a trade like Bootch we're screwed till the year after. If I were him I'd get the nuggets Jocich , Herroo or Love himself which is our best bet.

10x consecutive years NBA Champions, if Bulls didn't broke up and Jordan did not retire. Lead Jordan to became 1st all time scoring leader surpass Kareem, and 1st all time stealing leader.