The EXACT MOMENT Norm Van Brocklin Got FIRED by the Falcons 

Was still an @$$hole

How about Joe Namath in his mink coat & sunglasses on the sidelines!

@@jamesage24 1985 Jim McMahon...

What exactly did he achieve as a coach? He wore out his welcome long before management canned him. I mean, if we want to go there, John McKay took an 0 - 14 (really 0 - 26) JV squad in 76' - 77', to the NFCCG in their 4th year. Actually won some meaningful games. Norm was a terrible coach. He was a winner as a player, a loser as a coach.

@@eugenedenbrook322 how well have you faired in life?

While in Atlanta he was the head coach and general manager so he was responsible for acquiring the players once he got there. So he is responsible 100%. Also Norm had some unusual behavior when he coached the Vikings. In 1965 he quit the Vikings in the middle of the season and then unquit the next day.

His "Rankin" had to have been 26th out of 26 teams then in the league....

Blank is worse.

@@thunderlightning1980lol trash take troll. Blank has his faults but there isn't comparison

John McKay took the Bucs from expansion laughing stock to the NFC Championship Game in 4 seasons without any players of Tommy Nobis's pedigree. What's Norm's excuse?

@@GetBenched2010 The Buccaneers built a pretty good team, definitely better than any Falcons team Van Brocklin fielded. I don't know if that was ALL Van Brocklin's fault, but yeah, one has to like what the expansion Bucs became (I think Ken Herock was a strong GM, but many unanswered questions remain about how the Falcons were ran for years; of course, later Herock became Falcons GM, and he seemed to know what he was doing there. With the Brett Favre drafting/trade circumstance, it's more of a timing thing to me: if the coaching staff was different and the Falcons were rebuilding, that could've turned out differently). That defense did have Lee Roy Selmon though, and I feel it's difficult to compare what a D-lineman does vs. a linebacker, but the Bucs drafting him with their first-ever pick, I feel, was a great pick. On another note, Tommy Nobis should be in the Pro Football Hall of fame:-).

@@gluserty The Bucs built an 0 - 26 team, and McKay took them to the NFCCG in their 4th year. I'm sorry, but Norm was a terrible coach. That's not my opinion. That's not my professional coaching insight. His numbers suck. 2 yrs after Minny won 8 games, they won 4, he was canned. He was over .500 once in Atlanta, in a mediocre (at best) division, never making the playoffs. I think (and this is my opinion here) his style whipped young and new players into form (like when I was at boot camp). But he was a hard a$$ 24 - 7, and couldn't ever turn it off. That doesn't go well with being an average Xs and Os, game manager.

@@eugenedenbrook322 I feel that remains an impressive feat, considering the Bucs were just thrown out there to get beaten and that McKay was a lifelong college coach with no NFL ties (McKay did like to wear his hats though). Thankfully, the NFL has since made it easier for expansion teams to A.) begin play with more hopeful possibilities B.) Improve quickly (it didn't help that the Bucs were created in an era that lacked a bevy of draft prospects; their expansion brother Seahawks caught a break with Jim Zorn & Steve Largent).

@@gluserty Yes, it's much better. Gosh, those first few years were brutal for expansion fans. I was really impressed with Carolina & Jacksonville in their 2nd years. That was crazy!

Yeah they run to the opposite end zone and start posing and celebrating like they just won the super bowl, just for a tackle where the running back gained 3 yards. It makes it ridiculous to watch and hilarious honestly 😂😂

They act like they should get a ticker-tape parade

@@jcar4lifemancity4life5 why do folks like cry and whine so much about it. God forbid they have fun out there

@@johnwade7963 I’m not crying and whining I’m just saying it’s funny and ridiculous…my personal opinion, ya don’t gotta like it or agree buddy. Happy 4th hope the rest of it is great for you!!

Same with baseball. A home run in the World Series used to be a few hand shakes at the plate, then back to the dugout. Now it's a bat flip, stare down, some weird touching with the third base coach, point to the sky upon reaching home, and wrap it up with individual choreographed hand gestures with each player.

Absolutely! Need to go back to those.

Hmmmm?

I believe that Van Brocklin should have made a comeback at the age of 48 - the Falcons' quarterbacks that year were woeful, including being sacked 50 times in 430 plays with two Pro Bowlers as offensive linemen. In fact, the Falcons were last in all offensive categories that year (sorry to mention this).

@@MRB16th right?! That clip of him during warm-ups was very telling. Still very skilled and talented. Great form for a 48 year old. Odds are if he wasn't offered the Eagles head coach position after the 1960 championship before they reneged and ultimately was forced into the Vikings gig, he would have went on for several more years as a championship quarterback. Possibly would have led the Eagles to more championships but Buck Shaw meant allot to him.

the 1977 Falcons were close, like 112 points. (Ironically thanks to Glanville's Gritz Blitz, they held opponents to even less.)

The 1977 Bucs was only their second year in the NFL. They went 2-12 and didn't get their first win until Week 13 (losing 26 in a row from their winless first season). So...that's almost even worse, since expansion teams start pretty rough, while 1974 was the Falcons' ninth season in the NFL. 😅

1974 was the peak year of novelty songs for sure as pop culture transitioned from the psychedelic/hippie era to the disco era.

Lmao

Norb Hecker preceded Van Brocklin in Atlanta.

Correct about Landry in Dallas-the Cowboys were ridiculously bad in their first season in 1960 (only a tie with the Giants prevented a reverse perfect record of 0-12, and that was only because with Landry's experience as the Giants DC the previous six years, he knew how to exploit their few weaknesses and the Cowboys scored 31 points that day) and it was in their 7th season in '66 that they made the postseason.

Truer words have never been spoken.

Which members of your family, might I ask?

Maybe he should also consider himself lucky that nobody he challenged had a fork and was willing to use it like Abdullah The Butcher.

I heard Daryle Lamonica had the same problem with not adjusting to zone defense as an active quarterback, which was a factor in him not being an active QB much longer after zones became in vogue.

@@gluserty Kenny Stabler went into length about this in his book. Daryle had a hell of an arm but his weakness was his refusal to aim it.

@@GetBenched2010 Yeah, seems he was a 'bombs away!" kind of guy (nicknamed "The Mad Bomber"), and since the Raiders played bump and run, if he wanted to dissect zone he'd have to likely learn it for himself. I'll give him a break on that since he was already far along into his career and didn't want to change his style, plus the Raiders had Stabler ready to go. In the end, I'd take Stabler over Lamonica, since Stabler was more of a technician, but I do realize that Lamonica had an extremely productive stretch of play.

Harmon now listen Harmon this is the NFL do you know what that means Harmon? This is professional football. Haha This is the NFL son

Love that clip!@@stusargent4892

LIke most Bulldogs, Fran was a major whiner.

Yes, perfect comparison.

Hayes was 75% an act and at least he won a few titles.

It’s the Peter Principle in action.

shut the fuck up

@@RandyRandomson Wow, that's a bit harsh. He's just trying to give viewers context as to how long ago it was.