The Flash is a FAST BOX OFFICE FLOP! 

GOTG Vol. 3 and Spider-Man: Across the Spider-verse both performed well. I don't think people have comic book movie fatigue in general. They're tired of formulaic, poorly-written ones.

Not really a surprise to be honest, I’m just worried about the future of DC films more than anything, cause hearing James Gunn talk about those characters on Michael Rosenbaums podcast, it seems like he really understands them, but now I’m worried that those plans might not go anywhere, hopefully I’m wrong.

Always love to see a flick pick video on a friday!!!

Not just comic book fatigue, but multiverse fatigue 😵‍💫

As you said, during the pandemic people got so used to watching movies in the comfort of their homes. With that being the case, a movie has to deliver a truly amazing theatrical experience to draw in an audience; Top Gun: Maverick, Spider-Man: No Way Home, even Avatar: The Way of Water all delivered that. Unless your movie is just amazing (Which The Flash really isn't) it just isn't going to do well. Audiences do have much higher standards for movies these days and aren''t just going to settle for whatever mediocrity Hollywood can throw at them.

I think it’s the fact that a reboot was announced before these last DC film, and kinda said that those movies don’t matter anymore.

You say John that after the pandemic that people just didn't want to go to the theatres anymore, yet Spider-Man: No Way Home and Top Gun: Maverick both made over 1.5 BILLION each. Dr. Strange 2 made almost a billion as well. Edit: Thank you to the people who pointed out Mario Bros and Avatar 2 as well. A billion ans 2 billion dollar movie.

Most people that I know didn't watch the movie because they didn't want to support Ezra Miller because you know... he's a criminal.

There’s a number of reasons. I think that you can break it down into two parts. People have issues with the film in one form or another. They don’t like the lead actor, the film is set in a dying franchise, they’re not happy with Warner Brothers, it’s not reviewing well so people aren’t going. The marketing is meh. Whatever it is, this movie just isn’t attracting the people. Second is less about superhero movie fatigue rather than changes in audience habits and the quality of the experience. Post pandemic, the experience of going to a movie isn’t quite the same. Prices are higher, and it just feels like the quality of mainstream movies has dropped. So why would people spend a lot of money to go to the movies when they can just wait to see it at home for significantly less? And people are willing to go when it’s worth it. Look at Top Gun: Maverick. It was a great movie, and it excelled at the box office and got people excited. But Marvel’s been dropping the ball, The DCEU is a train wreck, and the studios aren’t willing to try new things with smaller budgets, it’s gotta make a billion dollars, and start a multibillion dollar franchise or it’s “not worth it”. Honestly, people are getting fatigued by mediocre movies, and overpriced theatre experiences. Make good movies that are worth our money, people will go watch. Make things that are just ok, people won’t spend the extra cash.

For me it's the cost of seeing movies now. Me and the wife and two kids going to see a movie is nearly $100 before you add in snacks. So the movie needs to be pretty compelling for me to do that.

Carrie fisher died 7 years 6.5 years ago. Holy shit, how long did it take for that film to come out.

Went with friends to see The Flash today. Didn't have much expectations, but from the start to finish, it was superb. We all loved it. If it's not doing so well, could one reason be all these accusations against Ezra Miller put people off? I felt his portrayal was excellent. Now tv or movies don't make me cry, but when adult Barry was hugging his mum as he knew he wouldn't see her again, found myself a but tearful as I lost my mum 37 years ago & still miss her.

I do know a lot of people who won't go see The Flash bc of Ezra Miller so there definitely is that.

In my opinion, biggest mistake dceu made was rebooting before 4 movie came out. After that news people think "Why I have to watch them? They gonna ends and nothing connects to future dcu film anyway."

I Just don’t wanna go cinema during summer, I wanna be outside enjoying the English sun

they showed everything throughout 7 trailers

Always love to see a flick pick video on a magical Friday

The OGs remember swinny TODD 💀 RIP

"Some poor dude", it sure looks like you are struggling based on your room in the background

Last week I went to Supanova (Australian version of ComicCon). That was a real eye opener to me about how far the superhero genre has fallen in popularity. For the past ten years that I've been going, it's all been superhero cosplay everywhere. This year hardly any. There were still a few superheroes walking around (mostly older guys) but mostly it was Japanese stuff, especially with the younger people. I wouldn't call it superhero "fatigue" - I think the audience has simply moved on. That was the proof to me. There will still be an occasional hit superhero movie, but the genres heyday is well and truly over. It was going to happen sooner or later.

Matt Reeves Batman is literally the only comic book related thing I give a shit about 😂

I liked the movie. It's a shame that it's failing because it is Michael Keaton's last appearance as batman.

You have to ask yourself the question what did Barry learn by the end of the film. Answer: literally nothing. Barry should of ultimately realised that he can't change history because it has serious consciences. That should of been his arc. Also the other Barry was extremely annoying at times & some of the CGI in the film wasn't up the scratch either. Great vid John 😊

Thanks for the video John I always appreciate your thoughtful, insightful comments

That mystical movie wonderwell is gonna be soooo good.

This movie started off pretty entertaining, but the third act and ending was pretty depressing and dark. Keaton and Sasha Calle's Supergirl are brutally killed by Zod multiple times until they give up because Zod always wins in that universe. The original ending reported by THR where Keaton, Supergirl, Gal Gadot and Henry Cavill join Barry at the courthouse would've been amazing tbh.

They’ve been failing ever since BvS which made $800mil but the vocal minority bitched enough that WB changed got cold feet. Before BvS was released the studio was praising it and gave it a standing ovation and then when the backlash started, WB totally abandoned Snyder’s plan for the DCEU including the JL trilogy and solo movies like Cyborg, Flash and GL. They started interfering and changing their DC movies while they were being made, even used Snyder’s daughters death as an easy excuse to fire him. Then the studio total rehaul of employees after the failing of 2017 Josstice league and fighting with fans about the Snyder cut existing. We went from Geoff John’s being the new head of DC, then we went to HBO and all this shit and they were gonna save the DCEU and then the Rock was gonna be the head of DCEU and brought Henry back just to fire him again…it’s literally just so much stupid shit that literally originated from people that cried and cried about BvS.

They had one of the best DC plot handed to them. All they had to do is copy paste comic or animated version and they print money. I pre booked this movie on opening day and my theatre was not even excited for batman scenes. Had way better theatre experience with spiderman movie. It sucks for me coz I am a big DC fan and they such great stories yet somehow they make these medeocre live action movies with such high big budgets

This movie felt like a parody, like an SNL skit. Can’t believe it’s real.

I just saw the movie yesterday It was incredible Iam kinda surprised it bombed. In Germany the cinema was also not really packed Maybe like 30 persons in a cinema which can hold around 400

I CANNOT WAIT TO SEE WONDERWELL. It is my most anticipated film of all time.

Sounds like a descent hypothesis. Good to see you man!

I'm over anything multiverse

Who was crying at this movie besides the CGI lol

John you’re still a hunk after all these years

Because they didn’t wait until these last few DCEU films to come out before hiring James Gunn and having him put the nail in the coffin for this current run of films.

John, RU-vid doesn’t deserve you 💪

Why did The Flash bomb? Hmmmm let’s see… 1. Problematic lead 2. It’s ANOTHER superhero movie and ANOTHER movie about the multiverse 3. Dc has consistently put out mediocre content ever since they started their cinematic universe 4. Movies in general have gotten more expensive to see and the quality has noticeably went down 5. We know the universe is getting rebooted 6. People have grown custom to watching premiere movies at home. 7. It came out after Spider Verse, which is without a doubt the best movie of the year ….. besides all that, I don’t know man 🤷‍♂️ might have to call Batman to solve this difficult mystery

I can't dissociate Ezra Miller as a criminal.

The character portrayed Asperger's Syndrome in the beginning honestly and I took a nap in the middle woke up to CGI fight scene that made me almost get up and leave

I wasn't expecting too, but I really liked it.

I said from the begging I think it was just a money back invested type release. The majority of people didn't want to support the lead actor but this was a necessary stop to change the universe.

Apart of it is that there were was a new blockbuster movie coming out every week. Not giving enough time between then gave audience movie fatigue. If it would have came out mid summer it would have done better.

1:10 This is disproven because across the spiderverse is doing great

All I know is why I didn’t go and that’s comic book movie fatigue. Even my desire to see a Keaton didn’t override that. Still, I’ll watch when it comes to my tv, I’m just not spending that much time and money for a movie I might like.

1) Ezra Miller being a POS and criminal in real life 2) No cares about the DCEU. Every film since Aquaman has flopped 3) The upcoming James Gunn reboot 4) A lot of competition especially from Across the Spider-Verse 5) Marketing went hard on Keaton's return. However the last time he played Batman was in 1992. Why would Keaton's return mean anything to the teens/20-somethings who make up the bulk of the movie going audience? 6) The last time Flash was on the big screen was in 2017's Josstice League which also flopped.

Also, I reckon the previews had a big part of it.

I don’t think you can have a general reasoning as to why it bombed. I think the flash just isn’t a popular enough superhero to carry its own movie. I personally watched it only for Batman (i’m a 90s kid). I asked my nephews who are 20 and 21 if they will watch the flash and they were not keen at all. I asked not even for michael keaton batman and they were like who?

Where are u working now?

This is my favourite comic book film since The Batman

This movie was truly amazing funny as hell great action scenes Micheal Keaton was a complete savage it was amazing to see nicholas cage as superman and also see George Clooney at the end yall are twisted over some cgi

1) hero fatigue 2) it's "the flash" 3) wait for streaming 4) minus keaton would be much worse

Two Words EZRA MILLER

I really liked this movie.

You’re working a full time job now? Any of your recent livestreams where you’ve elaborated on this? Haven’t watched the last couple

That film was epic one of the best batman scenes in all of cinema super girl was brilliant flash was meh and also the cameos from other sup versions was brilliant overall great movie cant believe it flopped

Full time job? Please tell me you drive one of those yellow school buses?

Also don't forget this is still An Origin movie haven't had a major flash with me yet it was only going to do so well

WB announcing reboot in the middle of upcoming 3 films is a big mistake and lack of press, Ezra Miller stuff damaged it's box office

One thing that hurts some movies for me is getting bombarded from people talking about it before the release. People review movies weeks before they come out and there’s spoilers and expectations. I just don’t get excited about the actual movie.

Flash is a good movie regardless of it's Box Office performance....

I enjoyed it.

I loved it.

whats ur full time job now John?? 😱😱

The AMC where I live renovated while the pandemic was going on to the heated recliner chairs and such. So it’s much improved in quality. I honestly think Flash was better than any Justice League movie regardless of cut.

I think people are just done with the DCEU. The batman made a lot of money

Really loved this movie

Bro making a 2 plus minute ad for a 6 minute video :(

i thought this movie came out last year. theres been so much news about the actor.

The only comic book movie with substance in the past 5 years is The Batman

You forgot the real main reason, Ezra Miller.

They're so desperate already, Fandango is now selling Flash tickets: Buy 1 ticket, Get 1 one Free. If the Theater owners can at least sell some popcorn and sodas, it helps cut their losses at least.

I think the fact that audiences have been made aware that this film is essentially inconsequential to the soon to be rebooted DC universe, leaves them with little desire to see it. I don't think the Ezra Miller publicity helped. However, when it comes down to it, the majority of movie goers that make the bulk of the box office revenue, likely are unaware of both of those things. Frankly I think people just aren't interested based on the trailers they've seen. Bringing back Keaton isn't enough to suck people into the cinema, and if anything confuses the average joe who doesn't understand why he's in the movie or why they should care. Plus why see The Flash, when a far superior superhero movie (also multiverse movie) is playing on the next screen?

imho its several reasons. 1: Ezra Miller not being canceled for all the crazy stuff he has done. 2: people know that this movie and the upcoming aquaman movie will be the end complete end of the DCEU era we know. 3: I think most people are just not interested in James Gunn's DCEU reboot.

Hi John. Hope you are doing well. Livestream soon?

What’s your full time job?

Two words. Ezra Miller.

Half assed CGI. Worse when the director tried to say it was SUPPOSED to look like that. Also Ezra Miller.

Ok so let me put this in to context for people. The flash did not cost 200 million, closer to 300-350 million. However that’s is a pinch to what they have lost in the last week. WBD has lost 18% of their stock value in in 11 days. What does this mean, a company that’s is currently valued at approximately 28 billion, now has 50 billion debt and has lost 18% of their value which means they are now in 2x more debt than the company is worth. The Flash May loose 300 million dollars but the stock drop has wiped close to 6billion from their market value. Champagne 🥂 anyone. This Kama, fired Cavill, lied and absolutely treated him like Sh1t!! A gentleman and role model. Yet they retained, protected and publicly supported a vile pathetic stain who’s attacked multiple people including women. Reap it WBD,,, reap it!

Lol The Flash needs to make way more than 265-400 million to break even much less turn a profit

Love you John, never change… even if that means never wearing pants inside

The DCEU is a cancelled universe and most people feel like it's pointless to check it out in theaters. Same thing will happen to Blue Beetle and Aquaman 2.

I just wait to release on max either

So the way flash ended who beat Zod if Superman doesn’t exist?

I think Ezra Miller’s controversial history along with competition from Spider Man Across the Spider Verse and even Transformers Rise of the Beasts

My question again, how is the number 1 movie in America considered "a bomb" ?

LOL, when I look at that fairy tale movie with the well it totally reminds me of Inuyasha!!

I agree with you John I would watch the flash then joss Justice League version

Movies just aren’t making money the way they used to only a select few to be honest the Flash is not a superhero that a lot of people are familiar with like they are with Batman and The Avengers. Also Ezra Miller really made it a film that some people just couldn’t support.

- James Gun Reboot - 7 Delays in 5 years - Ezra Millar Drama - Dc Haters - Spiderverse and other films are coming out - people are broke in june - Reshoots - Garbage Modern Day superhero films - WB Interferance with this movie. And 80% of dc movies in the past

I think the whole resetting of the DC universe just has it so people don't care for dc movies right now. Atleast personally I dont care for them even though I was a big fan. Once DC reboots ill check them out. I am curious about checking out blue beetle as I want to support the risker comic movies to encourage studios to take risks. Hopefully that one is good

This movie was destined to fail. Had so many things against it. 1. Ezra Miller - All the stupid things he did plus ppl had a better Flash elsewhere. 2. DCEU: The entire thing made ppl lose interested in it plus changing to James Gunn also damaged the movie and anything else left in the DCEU. No one wants to invest in something that is gonna get rebooted anyways. 3. The movie was mediocre at best and ppl aren’t going to leave the house for mediocre.

Recent superhero movies have been mediocre with a few exceptions. People are still butt-hurt over Cavil being forced out so Gunn can start the universe over. And this movie belongs to a lame-duck universe. And Ezra being crazy.

It was one of the better DC movies, but it's hard for people to care about a series that had continual flops and is being reset, again... Theater in Chicago were still busy when they opened back up and theaters in NC where I'm at now are busy too...with better movies.

It’s not Ezra if majors gets convicted ppl will still see him in avengers if they keep him

People are sick of multiverse movies 🍿

What kinda work u doin?

It's not about so many comic book movies coming out. It's the new "structure" that is making it bomb. Plus, even if you have a pack audience that doesn't mean anything if these are the same people that love She-Hulk.

I think it had to do with some people falling for the tribalistic idiot following for some reviewers and just following what they say as opposed to making up their own minds. If anything, Ezra miller was a legit reason for not going to see it..

Irs a combination of a bad economy and Ezra miller and Warner Bros destroying the marketing.