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The Fundamentals of a NuTone Model 478 Apartment Entry Intercom System 

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This is the first Video in a series about NuTone Apartment Entry intercom Systems.
This Video covers the fundamentals of the NuTone Model 478 - System 4 Apartment Intercom System
In this Video I provide the following information:
1. An overview of the essential equipment to makeup a basic 478 System
2. An overview of the optional equipment that can be added to a basic system
3.. A brief description covering each of the Model 478 components, including:
A. 478 Control Amplifier
B. Low-Voltage 301T Transformer
C. Model 499 Postal Lock
D. Electric Door Release
E. Model 467 Main Door Timer Module
F. Model 468 Second Door Timer Module
G. Entrance Directory and Entry Speaker
H. NuTone N485 Apartment Intercom Station
4. A step-by-step on how the 478 System components would be wired together - for a typical apartment configuration
5. How an additional apartment intercom stations would be added into the system - creating a larger and larger system
By watching this Video, you should be able to gain a basic understanding of how the NuTone Model 478 Apartment Intercom System goes together - which will allow you to apply this information to a system that requires some basic service or repair.
Here's a link to our Web Site, where you can download the NuTone Model 478 Installation Manual
For more detailed information about NuTone Intercom Systems: You Can:
Visit our web site: northsideforyourhome.squarespa...
Or you can email use at: nscompany@msn.com
Or you can call us at: 925-743-8236

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@JoseBenitez-ip1gr
@JoseBenitez-ip1gr Год назад
Thank you ,I appreciate you take you time to teach . Thank you
@northsideservicecompany3567
Hi user-vo5my4ld7w: You're welcome - Chris
@williamsnyder776
@williamsnyder776 Год назад
Watching this video allowed me to determine and fix a problem with our (ancient) NuTone system in our 6 unit apartment building. The actual fix was not that hard but understanding how the system worked through this video was key to isolating the problem so that I could fix it myself.Thank you for posting all these videos which is really a service for many of us as finding someone to work on old systems (our is likely 35+ years) is close to impossible.
@northsideservicecompany3567
Hi William: Terrific - What was the problem that you found - Chris
@williamsnyder776
@williamsnyder776 Год назад
@@northsideservicecompany3567 Hi Chris - thank you for sending me the links to the video after our phone conversation the other day. I was able to use a multimeter to determine that power was not reaching the door release (it was come from the control unit but not making it to the door release). Turns out the metal plates on top the door that provides the power to the door release with were misaligned. Took a few tries but everything realigned and the door release is working again.
@northsideservicecompany3567
@@williamsnyder776 Very Good - Now everyone can get the Pizza Deliveries - Chris
@theresas.3109
@theresas.3109 Год назад
Only one unit is not waorking. Bought a refurbished old unit for an incredible $65.00 and will use it to replace old one. Thank you and take care
@northsideservicecompany3567
Hi theresas: Sounds like a good plan - let us know how it works out - Chris
@flavaxpressionent9527
@flavaxpressionent9527 3 года назад
thank you so much, I learned so much from this video.
@northsideservicecompany3567
@northsideservicecompany3567 3 года назад
Hi Twayne: Good to know it helped you out - Chris
@juanmena1935
@juanmena1935 3 года назад
Excellent video
@northsideservicecompany3567
@northsideservicecompany3567 3 года назад
Hu Juan: Thanks, I'm glad it helped you - Chris
@ianking8212
@ianking8212 3 года назад
Impressive
@northsideservicecompany3567
@northsideservicecompany3567 3 года назад
Hi Ian: Thanks! - Chris
@northsideservicecompany3567
@northsideservicecompany3567 7 лет назад
There always seems to be a lot of confusion and many many questions about NuTone Apartment Entry Intercom Systems from property owners and building managers. These systems seem to be a mystery to most people and many times incorrect information is given out about the ability to service and repair these systems. Since many apartment buildings have dozens of unit, the cost to replace these system is high. The first and MOST IMPORTANT step in working on a NuTone Apartment Intercom System is gaining the knowledge and understanding of how the system is put together. This Video should enlighten you about the fundamentals of the NuTone 478 System and that's the first step towards resolving the problems that the system you're working on has. - Chris
@raulkvz1able
@raulkvz1able 5 лет назад
there is a lot of confusion because you make the video sooooooo long talking about things you don't need to talk like "my wife is waiting for a fed ex package" and stuff like that. get to the point!!! other ways good video
@maranopj
@maranopj Год назад
Very good instructional video....Do you know where I can get a replacement speaker for the entry panel? The current speaker does not create a tone when someone pushes the door bell and the "Talk / Listen" feature in the apartments does not appear to work.
@northsideservicecompany3567
HI maranopj: We have replacement Speaker Cones available for your NuTone Entrance Directory - You can contact us directly to order one - Chris nscompany@msn.com
@theresas.3109
@theresas.3109 Год назад
If the release is not working can it be replaced with a button if replacement parts are not availabe. It's an old system. Thanks
@northsideservicecompany3567
Hi theresas: Probably not - or at least not easily - You need to make sure that it's only your unit that isn't working - often times it's a "system wide" problem and your neighbors units aren't working either - In that case, the Control Amplifier may need to be rebuilt, or the the Door Release replaced, or both - Chris
@Reaper111499
@Reaper111499 5 лет назад
Great video/info! I refer to it often. I have a couple questions 1. Are 485 and N485 compatible with a 478 control? 2. What would cause apt 2 to get a bleed thru sounding ring when any other apartment is pushed to ring?
@northsideservicecompany3567
@northsideservicecompany3567 5 лет назад
Hi Grim Reaper: Answers to your questions: 1. The Model 485 and N485 Apartment Stations are interchangeable and both can be used with the Model 478 Control Amplifier 2. This will be tricky to sort out - there could be several different problems that may cause this to happen 2a. There could be a problem with the Entrance Directory push button for apartment #2 - try disconnecting the wire form the push button that connects to the apartment station, also clean or replace the switch 2b. There could be a problem with the Apartment Station - stuck switch - dirty switch - try swapping station #2 with another station - clean the switches 2c. There could be a wiring problem - how to find the problem and deal with it depends on how the system was installed. 2d. Are you sure that the sound is actually coming from the speaker in apartment #2? - could the sound be finding its way into apartment #2 acoustically? Chris
@Reaper111499
@Reaper111499 5 лет назад
@@northsideservicecompany3567 when you push the button for #2 is gets the normal sound. When the button is pushed for any other apartment it's a muffled ringtone. There are 12 apts in the building.
@Reaper111499
@Reaper111499 5 лет назад
I will try swapping the unit out.
@francescoruggieri7719
@francescoruggieri7719 2 года назад
Hi, great learning video. Much appreciated. Wondering if you know where I can buy the N485WH units and 478 amplifier to replace a 40 year old system for 14 apartments ?
@northsideservicecompany3567
@northsideservicecompany3567 2 года назад
Hi Francesco: I don't have any special sources for the equipment you mention. Anything you buy will likely be used and depending on its age and condition, may need refurbishment. You also need to make sure the 478 System is full compatible wit your existing wiring layout. An easier and more modern path would to install a Telephone Entry System and abandon the original hard-wired system - Chris
@eeng4234
@eeng4234 Год назад
I have a problem where the buzzer to let people in is not working. We had it replaced by a “locksmith”, it worked for a few days but now doesn’t work again. Are there different voltages to these strike plates?
@northsideservicecompany3567
HI eeng: There are thousands of different Door Release Styles available - The deciding factor is first and fore most - it needs to fit into the opening in the Door Frame - Most Door Releases are made in different Voltages - 16 Volts and 24 Volts being the most common for residential applications - The NuTone 478 Systems requires a 16 Volt Door Release. It is possible that the 478 Control Amplifier has a problem - either because it's old and tired or perhaps the Door Release circuit is damaged, either from age or from the previous Door Release failure. What needs to be done is, check the Voltage on the Door Release Wires - while someone is activating the switch in an apartment. Chris
@eeng4234
@eeng4234 Год назад
@@northsideservicecompany3567 Thank you for the reply. The device I’m working with is actually made by TekTone. I took a voltmeter to the main panel and it read about 2.5 VAC, if I recall correctly. The strike also registered a voltage about the same. Just can’t open the door. I’m thinking of replacing the strike with one Nang by TekTone. I think the one that’s in there currently requires a higher voltages.
@eeng4234
@eeng4234 Год назад
By the way, thanks for the excellent video, your video makes the system seem simple. Which is obviously not the case when you get on-site and see a birds nest of wires. 😊
@gordonfro1
@gordonfro1 3 года назад
Im hooking up a separate device for amazon to trigger the door to open, When I triggered the postal lock by jumpering with a fused wire no sound happened at the 478 control panel and I assumed it wasnt working, maybe the 478 dosnt make a sound when postal switch is triggered? if it dosnt work can I short out the control and ground wire to open the door?
@northsideservicecompany3567
@northsideservicecompany3567 3 года назад
Hi Gordon: What is the actual device (Amazon) that will be triggering the Door Release? What type of output does the device have? - Chris
@bosnurdley5207
@bosnurdley5207 5 лет назад
When you wire the door release does the amplifier care about which is negative and positive?
@northsideservicecompany3567
@northsideservicecompany3567 5 лет назад
Hi BoSnurdley: The NuTone 478 Control amplifier supplies AC Voltage at the Door Release Terminals - There is a Rectifier Diode across the Door Release Terminals (which is often removed or cut by the original installer) - The purpose of the diode was to rectify the AC Voltage - which would eliminate the "buzzing" sound from the door release when it is activated. When the diode is left intact - the door release will not "buzz" it will simply make a single "click" when it is energized. I have limited experience with the thousands of different types of Door Releases that are available - all of the door releases I have seen can operate on either AC or DC - Chris
@richardlafleur7519
@richardlafleur7519 7 лет назад
good stuff do you know of a repair service for the amp
@northsideservicecompany3567
@northsideservicecompany3567 7 лет назад
Hi Richard: Yes, we repair the 478 Control Amplifier. Actually as I write this, I'm preparing to rebuild a NuTone 478 that was sent in by my customer "KC". He was the motivation behind this first Video. KC has been working diligently to get his NuTone 478 System back up and working. You can contact me directly to discuss the problems with your 478 - Chris (2/28/17 5:25 PM) 925-743-8236
@davidgertz1317
@davidgertz1317 4 года назад
Do you know were I can find replacement entry directory push buttons for the 478 system?
@northsideservicecompany3567
@northsideservicecompany3567 4 года назад
Hi David: Unfortunately the rectangular Push Buttons are no longer made and there aren't any available. - Chris
@davidgertz1317
@davidgertz1317 4 года назад
@@northsideservicecompany3567 OK. Thanks
@marcinkozlowski5585
@marcinkozlowski5585 5 лет назад
What is the AUD 1, AUD 2 and Control? Which one does what?
@northsideservicecompany3567
@northsideservicecompany3567 5 лет назад
HI Marcin: That's a really big question - Much to complicated to answer in a RU-vid Comment - Chris
@neuralnetwork5544
@neuralnetwork5544 4 года назад
the tone generated from the speaker is AC or DC or pulsed DC? whats the voltage?
@northsideservicecompany3567
@northsideservicecompany3567 4 года назад
Hi Neural Network: The Call Tone is AC - I have no idea what the voltage is - I've never had an occasion to measure it - Chris
@neuralnetwork5544
@neuralnetwork5544 4 года назад
@@northsideservicecompany3567 Thank your for the reply.
@northsideservicecompany3567
@northsideservicecompany3567 4 года назад
@@neuralnetwork5544 You're welcome - Chris
@neuralnetwork5544
@neuralnetwork5544 4 года назад
@@northsideservicecompany3567 its pulsed DC pulsating on 1 KHZ.
@northsideservicecompany3567
@northsideservicecompany3567 4 года назад
@@neuralnetwork5544 According the the 478 Amplifier Service Manual (section 4.5.1) "The Ring Common wire connects Z1A-3 to DC ground, and simultaneously , carries the AC ring signal to the Apartment Speaker" (section 4.2) The frequency is between 100Hz and 2KHz determined by the Ring Pitch Control R33 Fundamental rule: Speaker Cones aren't drive by DC current - Only AC - Chris
@shepardnathan
@shepardnathan 5 лет назад
30:59 SYSTEM FOUR starts to get into it
@northsideservicecompany3567
@northsideservicecompany3567 5 лет назад
Hi Nathan: I'm not at all sure what you're referring too - Chris
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