The term Psychopathic or Sociopathic is often times misused. A Psychopath is someone who is born without empathy while a sociopath is someone who develops the problem and doesn’t feel empathy. It is extremely rare and I mean extremely rare for them to be murderer or serial killer contrary to popular belief. They just don’t feel any empathy. They can’t understand other people emotions though they are ways they can understand it by literally asking themselves how others feel. Can they be violent yes but it is rare. I think should understand this cause this can unnecessary societal pressure and very brash judgement and will solve the actual problems.
Man that UK story was messed up, I was jaw dropped cause I was so caught off guard that was the extent in which he went, more vids like this would be sick! New sub earned via Robert Hines interview btw. Loving your stuff.
It's mental illness man, I did the same when I dropped out of uni but I went down the woods and watched podcasts rather than tell my mum I'd got annoyed at the tutor and give up
It's a weird phenomenon. I did the same when I dropped out of med school, except I went hiking. Came clean on my "graduation" day, got kicked out and lived homeless for 2 years. Best thing that could've happened to me, honestly. 8 years after all that, I actually finished school in something I'm passionate about, have a great career with a loving wife and kids. Heartbreaking that dude chose the cowards way out of it. Even if you're at the bottom, it's not the end.
Imagine being the dad in that situation. Surviving a shot to the head and having to tell police that your own son tried to kill you and killed your wife. Can't imagine what that must have felt.
The Halo 3 Killer father are too cruel wasn't a good father, a good parent will always pamper & proctect their son no matter what their son did,. Parent will never send his own child for 23years in prison....this is not fair
I’m all for it. Internet lore is sort of limited in how there’s only a handful of super popular internet legends, but true crime cases on the internet happen every day lmao
I’m trying to not go all in LOL but lately I’ve enjoyed making these. I still plan on doing videos on some classic youtube drama moments and more internet antic style stories involving 4chan/reddit etc. and Im always on the lookout for wholesome uplifting stories. They are deeply rewarding to make. Gotta show the new subs what im all about
imo "menhaz" was REALLY fishing for one of his homies to tell him everything would be ok and that he wasn't, in fact, the POS that he labeled himself. i'm so happy to see those friends/acquaintances did NOT do that and continued to call him on his disgusting and selfish acts.
Apparently a lot of the people in the discord actually egged him on to do it. The "I've planned this for 3 years" thing was only a shock to some of them
i don’t think he was fishing for any complements, considering he was just talking to random people not his friends. im pretty sure he is just so mentally deteriorated he knows he is a subhuman piece of garbage
These individuals seem to already have been harboring some deep seated issues WAYYYYY before they started gaming. If anything these individuals USED gaming to relax and chill like the rest of us
@@Sekavuus I agree with this. In general, not only video games but mental health in general should be more openly talked about. Depression and addiction are bad on their own, but combined they can lead to horrific events (e.g. the Discord murders)
@@etcetera36 true but as an avid mmo player nothing causes violence more than those games When you tank and spank a boss for an hour only to glitch your party into the ground and kill everyone, sometimes you just want to chuck some npcs off a cliff I did it was very funny
The first story is so sad, i also was failing university, i lied to my parents that i was doing well, graduation approached, and i just told them the truth and explained how i was passionate about fitness my parents being from a different culture i was really nervous about telling them, but they were so supportive i went on to do my absolute best at uni graduated and pursued fitness sometimes just communicating is all you need your parents and family love you, im grateful to god for my parents and my family.
@@Lo0serx3 you familiar with chandler halderson ? You being in America ha nothing to do with anything… people can lie regardless of the geographical location.
That's not so crazy as you think, many people survive shots to their head when they try to kill themselves. But this whole case is pretty fnckəd up. I can understand that Daniel was upset and angry when his father took the copy of the game from him, but everything what happened afterwards, shows that Daniel is a psychopath and that he clearly lacks the ability to feel empathy for others. The strategy of his attorney shows that some people are obviously not able to differentiate reality from fiction. In this case it's Daniel's attorney. Who in his right mind would even think that people who are playing video games can't differentiate real deaths and real harm from deaths and harm in movies and video games? I'm sorry for his Family (Including his father) but how the heck did he thought it would be a good idea to put the game in the same safe the gun was in is beyond me. What a pointless act of Violence...
The Halo 3 Killer father are too cruel wasn't a good father, a good parent will always pamper & proctect their son no matter what their son did,. Parent will never send his own child for 23years in prison....this is not fair
Like anything in this world, video games aren't the problem, people are. Some people are bound to have violent outbursts whether they are gaming or not. Great video as usual.
Correction: at 21:41 I misspoke. I stated February 2019, it should have been February 2014. I say the correct year multiple times past this point, I guess I just had the number 9 in my head for some reason during that specific take. Sorry about that guys.
Kinda sad that a lot of murderers, especially the story concerning "The Halo 3 Killer" don't seem to understand the value of human life until they've already taken it.
I had a dream once where I murdered someone. The guilt and fear of the consequences that came immediatly afterwards made it one of the most terrifying dreams ive ever had. I still remember how relieved I felt after I woke and realized it wasnt real.
His dad was a hypocrite loving god but loving guns too he created that addiction he is responsible for the death of his wife his son used his gun to kill his mom
Please do one about neglect due to video games. There was a case that chilled me to the bone about a couple who starved their baby because they were busy gaming, even commenting that their daughter's cries were a nuisance.
My mom showed me a "Snapped" episode on the Halo 3 killer trying to get me to stop playing video games and focus on school. I told her "sure ill quit playing games, but you gotta quit smoking" she never brought it up again
@@ronrolfsen3977 It wouldn’t take more than a few headshots to get the job done. I’d consider myself a pretty strong guy. You say it like I’m just sitting there psychotically beating a dead body while my sister bleeds out💀 That was a really stupid comment Ronald. You probably stalk girls and climb through windows yourself
The Halo 3 Killer father are too cruel wasn't a good father, a good parent will always pamper & proctect their son no matter what their son did,. Parent will never send his own flesh&blood for 23years in prison....this is not fair
@@danielloh1174 if you want to raise an irresponsible, selfish brat then certainly pamper your little sweetums but if he commits serious crimes and a "parent's" response is to "protect them" (as if society wouldn't need to be protected from mummy's little psycho!!) then said "parents" are probably the reason they've turned into monsters in the first place. I take it you haven't taught your sons what taking responsibility looks like? Or that no means no? I'm getting distinct "spawned a r@p¡$+" vibes from you. 🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐
daniels dad is so sweet. i couldn't imagine forgiving someone like that. i think if everyone was as understanding as him, the world would be a better place
Idk I mean He was brought up in like a really religious household. I honestly think parents should allow their kids to play video games at that age as long as they do their chores and as long as they behave. And growing up in a really religious strict household has it's effects. Not trying to justify anything but i do think parents should be a little less strict with their children
@@user-ld3si9iy6s Religion is a good thing to have, but imposing it on someone and using it as a defense to continue oppressing them is the mark of a zealot and a coward.
@@Unbreakable245 I couldn't help but to think this exactly. Obviously the son is completely wrong and was out of his mind to shoot and kill them, there is no justifying that , but I think there should be some type of lesson or thought here about how the parents were imposing thier religious beliefs on the kid so hard they were going to kick him out or hid his game for it. Again that doesn't justify any killing at all but I know I would've hated my parents for doing that.
oh wow the runescape stabbing gf story was wild. The brother sounds like a real superhuman being able to not only react quickly, think very clearly under extreme pressure, and he also showed mercy for someone who by all accounts didnt deserve it.
was not told properly. the brother had deep cuts and only got the bat from his room after their father intervened. it was the father who eventually saved both the brother and sister. wavy did a poor job on telling that one with alot of wrong details. watch the story on runescape historian his channel for the proper recount...
I can't even fathom him just saying "close your eyes, I have a surprise." and if the mom got shot first, I can imagine the dad's heart dropped immediately because he knew exactly what had just happened. He placed the game in the worst place possible, thinking that it was the safest place. Literally heart wrenching to hear. I'm so sad for the parents.
I really hope the guilt and remorse he's said he feels for what he did in years since is genuine. Regardless of whether he's ever let out of prison or not he has to live with that guilt and know that he'll forever be labeled as a monster for what he did.
@@padarousou I don't think it's fair to put his actions on the backs of his parents. The problem here is that he was so incredibly addicted to playing Halo it became a real problem. I've seen addiction change people into someone there clear minded self wouldn't even recognize it's a scary thing man.
The thing about the Halo Killer, I've heard stories of individuals that have suffered Infections or injuries to their nervous system resulting in them developing violent or aggressive tendencies later down the line afterward, makes me wonder if his ski injury and staph infection may have been a factor in it. Truly sad that anybody would harm the people closest to them, it sucks that some people out there are quicker to point the finger at hobbies rather than any other factors like Mental Illness.
That's honestly the most terrifying concept to me. The idea that if I get brain damage in just the wrong part of my brain for whatever reason then I could go from being a relatively normal person to being completely unhinged.
@@Blerblerblerb like with split personality disorder but Imagine if one of the consciousnesses inside of you were evil and can take control randomly? Especially if your other personality is really good at hiding evidence. You could just have a psychopath living in your body and you may never know. Especially people that live alone and don't go to the doctor at all to catch anything like that. If that happened you would assume you're just passing out due to exhaustion or something and you'd be none the wiser unless you came to with a blade covered in blood in your hand one day. That's what I'd be worried about lol.
I think there is connection that has been made with serial killers and childhood brain trauma. Dahmer had something happen with anesthesia where his brain lost oxygen, I believe Ted Bundy had a serious concussion as a toddler
I wasn't a big halo fan growing up but I was definitely an unreal tournament fan, sometimes even waking up the next morning at my keyboard after playing through the night. As a 10 year old girl, it was pretty unusual that I chose to spend every weekend binging this game but I wasn't so addicted that I would have killed someone over it, I would just maybe throw a tantrum when I got kicked from a server because people would pressure me to get on mic after losing to me in death matches and such, and when they heard my 10 year old baby voice they'd immediately boot me and my progress would be ruined 😤 that aside, IT WAS NEVER THAT SERIOUS. killing someone over this shit is wild af.
Video games don't create sociopaths, however, I think violent games and movies fuel a sociopath's lack of empathy and conscience. These kids had problems far before "their gaming addiction" took over their lives, but once they did it completely warped their sense of right and wrong.
i can agree to some parts of it and then disagree....i mean i am gaming as well, i have had rages, quit rages, banging on the desk....which is understandable in some situations....but i mean i did play all the gruesome and horrifying games, rather it's friday the 13th, GTA which basically allow you to murder EVERYBODY, murder games and yet i've never even lifted a finger at my relatives or any person in general, i think he had some mental problems that nobody seem to understand, as much as murder is a VERY serious crime as a stand alone, how emotionally detached are you to murder your entire family with a crowbar and slit their throats and brag about it
Completely agree. Any pleasurable behavior has the potential to become addictive (with some more than others obviously) to people with a propensity for it, including gaming. Drugs, gambling, sex, eating, gaming, even exercise can be addictive. I feel like the more I learn, the more it seems addicts have other patterns of dysfunctional behavior before the addiction ever began.
They behaved like junkies. Take the video game out it’s simply hardcore addiction to whatever and if that’s taken away they go crazy. It consumes they life like sex or drugs for others
If a psychopath plays a videogame he's still a psychopath, don't blame the videogame. It reminds me of the Salem witch trials where they blamed witches for their problems.
I agree, 100%. I've been playing games for over 35 years and I especially enjoyed the violent ones, and yet I can never imagine myself causing harm to another human being. People who blame the games are just making excuses and are refusing to take responsibility for their own actions.
Actually there's good historical evidence that the "witches" didn't cause problems. Essentially their wheat stores were too damp and ergot was growing on it. Ergot is a precursor to LSD. So the historically accepted explanation is basically the entire area was tripping balls 24/7.
The Halo 3 Killer father are too cruel wasn't a good father, a good parent will always pamper & proctect their son no matter what their son did,. Parent will never send his own flesh&blood for 23years in prison....this is not fair
@@danielloh1174 You would soon change your tune if he had protected his son and shielded him from justice after he had killed a member of your family and tried to kill another. You would be screaming for blood and for the blood of the parent for protecting him. Being sent to prison for twenty-three years for first degree murder and attempted murder, all because he couldn't get his way and play a computer game, - THAT'S NOTHING. Three meals a day, his own TV, all of his medical bills payer for by the tax payers. Sounds more like a holiday to me. He should have been sent to the gallows.
@@emmanuelwatson7893 i feel really very angry & Fxxking emotional right now & cant control myself.., how come such selfish father exist , i thought this only happen in CHINA. he is just a kid & he promise to repent his sin during court session, he feel regret. the judge & jury should grant this kid a chances , maybe reduce 23 yrs prison sentence to 23day community service
This makes me so sad.. video games are meant for ppl to have fun and forget about real world problems. Video games has helped me a lot through the 21 years I have been playing especially now that I’m an adult handling real adult problems. I always look forward coming home from work and booting up a game. It sucks that these gamers think murder was the only way to get their way, I hope they have learned their lesson and realize it wasn’t worth it taking a life over something that’s not real or important.. I’ve faced the same issues as some of these guys. I have had my account stolen from me on Wizard101 that I put hours and hours into but instead of plotting revenge I blocked my so called online “friend” and just made a new account and started over and not to trust anyone like that again
This first guy makes my stomach flip, i live 20 minutes away from that p.o.s and it blows my mind that someone that was as privileged as him could do that...
@@TheJpiscool I don't understand how people think religion can always help sometimes it does more harm then good especially if therapy is needed you know
the father probably moved if he was the second person being shot so the son missed the direct head shot and ironic how the son was "praying" for the father to be survived and he did
Long distance relationships can only work in my eyes with 3 factors: 1. You knew each other way before the distance happened 2. There's a plan to reconnect in person while away 3. You plan to come back together in person eventually, a date set. Not just a nebulous "someday" Otherwise, jealousy, insecurity will eat at you, like it did with Coffey.
The only thing that sucks is people still try to blame video games for violence. It's not connected. Video games honestly are cathartic for pent up anger.
I primarily play animal crossing and story of seasons lol I highly doubt you will find a violent foe in these communities. They always need a scapegoat.
People just use it as a scapegoat and ignore the other requirements.t seems to be ANY tool that would be to issues, games are relaxing for most people, the problematic ones would be affected by an other options too. Also, a 6 year old playing a M rated game wont go well
It would if it was linked to psychosis. With that they could’ve done an insanity plea but I don’t think the lawyers managed to get a psychiatrist who would agree to diagnose him.
Let's not forget the guy who, back in the days of CS 1.6 who went to a kids house and stabbed him for killing him over and over. Edit: btw I dont think the kid died (thank God) but still
The greatest question of all is whether our experience on this planet is "it" or whether there is something else. Things in the supernatural realm give support, strangely perhaps, to the things we take on faith. - Art Bell
Dang. My parents were also religious to the point where i couldnt watch pokemon, power rangers, digimon, etc as a child. I remember only having videogames to pass the time, until they started limiting me to play just one hour a day on weekends. I remember feeling so sad. So so sad. I remember going to my friends house and also playing Halo on his Xbox! That story hits home home for me, especially when the father forgave his son. I would never do anything that the guy in the story did, but i could relate up until that point. Crazy fucking world
You too, huh? I had Power Rangers and Simpsons taken from me after my Mom’s friends told her they didn’t allow it in their houses and actually had all of my systems sold in middle school after my grades fell. Looking back it was kind of funny, my Mom had no idea what to do and I think she was just following trends that were successful with her friends but we were never “those kind of people” if that makes sense. They eventually bought us systems to replace the ones they sold when they realized I literally had no motivation to do better in school after they “sold the motivation”😂
Agreed. I was looking for this comment. Religious nut parents are not good for children. Having extremely restrictive parents over years leads up to a lot of pent up anger and honestly I think that raising your children under this degree of religious adherence should qualify as child abuse.
Yeah but "item in a game" makes most people go "that's unbelievable". But if it's said that a large amount of money was stolen people although they might not agree it was appropriate they will go "ah okay I can see why someone might do that".
The MMO killer one especially can’t be blamed by video games. People killing others after being betrayed/having their stuff stolen is a tale as old as time.
@@NeoGMan64 and yet ironically, the game has long since shut down, making the item completely non-existent. The one who paid $1000 bucks for it must be feeling pretty dumb to do that. But the one that threw his life away for it must be feeling even worse. I'm a hardcore gamer with plenty of experience across multiple MMOs (World of Warcraft, Guild Wars 2, Star Wars: The Old Republic and Final Fantasy 14 primarily), and yes, I have been betrayed over extremely rare in-game loot, which has resulted in years-long friendships suddenly and abruptly ending. But never, no matter how angry I am, would I resort to outright murdering someone over it. My life is worth more than that.
In the first one, there is NO way he could have gotten away with it. His family members would be reported missing and obviously police would go to his house. If he went on the run he has 0 knowledge of the criminal underworld so he would be easily caught
That father forgiveness is incredible. He knows that his son remains his son. He seems to show genuine remorse for what he did. Even tho its too late for what he did. His dad strenght and support is incredible. Poor mom tho, such an incredibly sad story.
Imagine how many times the kid had to talk to his father to try and explain that he really loves the game, he could have become a pro gamer nothing would have happened only if the father didn't stop him from doing what he likes. The father is manipulative you can see it poor mother but the father idk i dont feel sorry for him. Instead of explaining siting down with the son he just straight took the game from him and locked it fully knowing how much he likes the game... So from this we can see that the father only allowed what he deemed was okay and not what the kids wanted
The last one hit so hard... His dad is doing something I would never be able to do, one thing is your own son trying to kill you, but the other is your son killing your wife... That dad being able to somehow forgive his son, it's unreal.
Yeah, if I was the dad I wouldn’t be able to forgive and if I was the son I would want to kill myself The guilt that comes with killing your mother and trying to kill your father but he survives would be unbearable for me
I worked in mental health and disability services for a few years and had clients with traumatic brain injuries. Some of them had to learn to walk again, some even had to learn to talk again similar to some stroke victims. One of my clients couldn't look down, he could move his head to look forward, up and side to side but if he looked down he would lose control over his balance and fall to the ground, this happened several times a day. Other effects of brain injury included debilitating migraines, memory issues, changes in personality, poor inpulse control and problems with substance use because they either became addicted to pain meds due to their injuries or were using drugs/alcohol to help them cope. One more thing, of the clients I worked with, the majority had sustained their injuries in fights, usually outside the local pub or in car accidents where alcohol was a factor, due to my country having a culture of drinking heavily on the weekends. So I guess I'll just say to anyone reading this...PLEASE don't drink and drive, don't get into drunken brawls and if you absolutely must have a slap fight, do it safely!
I genuinely think i'm well lucky towards your comment. Iv'e had incidences myself where i've actually dropped entirely on my face (as some drunk people have), and tot his day have lived. But since my second incident, i feel like i'm actually dumb. I'm not all there, compared to how i was. My typing might seem fine, but, in reality, in real life, damn. I hate it. Everyone treats me like i'm some "retard". Iv'e fallen twice, complete face plants into concrete. Iv'e two scars. On each eyebrow. The left, i'll still say to people I was spiked, and to this day, i really do think i was spiked that day. The second time however, was my own fault. I had drank a lot, and then smoked a Joint with a guy after. After that, ordered a taxi completey fine, he asked if it was ok to walk up to his house to collect some things, on the way up towards his house, i'd tripped over a metal pole and face planted head first. I came home blood all over my face, all over my pillow, everything. Since that day, i just don't think iv'e been the same. I mean i was dumb as shit beforehand, but now, really, i think that reality became real. I hate it. I'm mainly coming towards you're first part of the comment of "not looking down". I can look down alright. But everything else. It seems warped in a sense. I hide it as much as possible, but to see people treat me as a "retard", really feels like maybe i am a "retard".. :(
Honestly wish i saw this comment long before shit really happened. I feel as if the impact of both( smashing my face in on concrete ) really made a difference in my life, as in fucked it up. I still try to be as nice as i can to people, but people just see "retard" in me. Hate it man, really fucking hate it.
I still can't forget the images of Gabriel Kuhn... He wasn't mentioned in this video, but his case haunts me every day. Poor boy was also killed, in a shockingly brutal way, after borrowing in game currency from someone he thought was his friend. Truly horrific and heartbreaking case that should never have happened, and I hope he is resting in peace
@Elysian Same for me. Absolutely horrifying case honestly. Sorry you saw those images too, they're way to easy to find. Makes me feel sick that someone could put those on the internet in the first place honestly
@Elysian Not a clue but its disgusting. Whoever leaked them should be in prison, and while on the topic of prison, what was with the outrageously low sentence for Daniel? I mean, 3 years? Really?!
@Elysian minor or not, the acts he committed were absolute atrocities and that, to me, tells me he felt adult enough to do it at the time. Brazil really needs to sort their legal system out man
Okay. As a college student who is a little less than honest when it comes to if I'm passing all my classes, yes it's a very hard thing to tell your parents and yes I'm too scared to do that. But I'm still trying my hardest to fix my mistakes so I DON'T put myself in an awkward position of dropping out or having it all come forward when it comes time for me to graduate. I dug my own hole, so I'm going to put in the effort to get out of it even if it means I have to spend more money than what I would've wanted to. I was going to go into debt no matter what, so I guess it's a trade off that I can live with. That being said.... This guy is not a coward. He's deranged and never should've even been allowed to get his hands on a weapon. He should've been going to a professional instead of going to the mall.... And I hate how he says, "I'm an atheist" as if that's somehow a valid explanation for his choices. I'm personally agnostic, but I have close friends who are atheists and would 1000% look at this and be absolutely mortified. Even if you don't believe in an afterlife, even if you don't subscribe to the idea of a higher power, it's pretty damn obvious that the fact that you even exist is an incredibly rare feat on its own and a second one of you is pretty much never going to happen ever again. You don't need to believe in a god, a heaven, or a hell to understand the basic idea that you should make the most of your life while you have it and no innocent person deserves to have their right to life taken away like that. It's so disturbing reading those messages.. It's disturbing to think there really are human beings who would be faster to grab a gun and kill someone out of impulse than they would to simply have what would've been a pretty common conversation (like dude you're not the first person in existence to flunk out of college) with their 'loved' ones.
I used to live in Markham; my brother was friends with the girl who was murdered by her brother. In recent years that city had 2 cases where uni dropouts lied about their academic status and plotted their families' murders. This particular city prides itself in numbers above all else. You can see it in the schools. Every student knows their high school's rank. Other schools will reject transfers if they fear you'll bring their average down. Almost every new resident is just flipping their house, so forget about having a relationship with neighbors. It's not a happy place. It's more of a business or a machine, and I wish it was discussed more.
The main problem is that thye world has accepted the model (born>study>get a job>get a family) as a 100% succesful way of living and don't think out of the box. Who cares if you dont get education (typing this while on my 4th year at uni which i honestly don't know why i even started at first place when i have 0% interest in it). Like... you can get a job even without a graduated uni certificate. Hell you can even sell drugs. Not saying its good but its a way of living. People just can't take being judged by others and those thoughts push them to make crazy things imo.
I am so proud of myself. i managed to fight my addiction to gaming almost entirely. Back in the days i used to play online game competitively and was very adamant and passionate about it. Now i am a passionate cyclist who loves to go on a group or solo tour. I'm a rider and mechanic myself. I do occasionally re visit and play games but i love watching live games and streams.
Bro Daniel’s family(minus the sister) are crazy. They kicked a minor out of their house for playing halo. Then he topped their craziness by shooting them
The parents are so terrible, he totally did not kill them just for Halo. I detest those sort of controlling assholes, even if he shouldn't have shot them.
@@alkv7604 You guys are children right? Very clearly the kid was deranged and literally addicted to the game, from the story it seems like they noticed it and took the game away. It's not like as a parent you can just ignore your kid being addicted to something. You have to consider the parents point of view, they probably grew up with the original super mario, seeing your kid be addicted to realistically (compared to the original mario) shooting people and bodies flying all over the screen would be rather shocking.
@@redvirknight9430 The issue is that his father was seemingly against the game from the start, and it had little to do with addiction, rather the ESRB rating and whether or not the game was something he deemed okay with regards to religion. Taking the game away from a deranged kid isn't going to fix the issue, if anything it makes it worse. You have to have a long talk about why he confides in the game so much, construct boundaries with the child (not for the child, with them as equals) and get to the root of the issue. Cause clearly the game wasn't the problem, merely a symptom of his mental state being vulnerable. Without knowing just how strict his father was in regards to games and such we can't completely say what the issue was, but his addiction more than likely wasn't the crux of the problem. It was just the easiest thing to blame for it, and ultimately the results are there for everyone to see. The kid snapped and took his family's lives. I can't say whether or not it would've went different had they just done something else, but I certainly would've taken a different approach than just going nuclear and taking the game and banning it altogether.
Crazy you drop this right when the story broke about the 10 year old killing his mom cause she wouldn’t buy him a vr headset, then logged into her Amazon account and ordered it after he killed her.
mark my words, soon VRChat and VR in general will be the new online space for infamous crimes over internet to happen. it is ALREADY happening, in fact. first it was MMOs, now it's going on a whole new step.
@@bogdweller27 not even an ipad, people need to be a present parents. If you're gonna let a device maintainly moderate your kid, your not a parent if your not teaching them what the iPad doesn't.
As tragic as these tales are, the story about the stolen rare item is one of my favorites to listen to. I Assume you couldn’t get the real photos of the characters, so I also like how you used generic clips and images to explain what’s going on.
I’m shocked you didn’t include the murder of Gabriel Kuhn. That was so brutal. I had the misfortune of stumbling on the crime scene photos completely uncensored. Idk why but the sexual assault was what baffled me the most. I have no experience in criminology so maybe it’s more meaningful than I understand. Supposedly the murderer Gabriel Petry only served three years in juvie and has since disappeared.
Literally I was gonna say the same thing. The 2nd story involving the mmo sounded super similar to the Gabriel Kuhn case. Iirc Daniel Patry was a minor as well as being reported as mentally unstable at the time. This took place in Brazil and Brazil has some WAY too lenient sentencing for murder. Crazy stuff, I do NOT recommend anyone looking for the pics its VERY easy to find and very traumatizing
Hadn’t heard of this and looked it up after reading this comment - really wish I didn’t. I took your advice and didn’t look for the pics but based on what I read I can assume they’re pretty awful
Sexual assault is always about power and control over the victim, humiliating and demeaning even more than just murdering them. Its never about the sex itself, its just a means to inflict deeper suffering. Hope this answered your questions.
Look, I flunked out of college the first time around because I went to a special school due to autism and never needed to try. So I never learned how to study or how to fail gracefully. When my parents found out they were a bit upset, but I really did try my best. Fast forward to about 5 years ago. I saved my money I made as a supermarket custodian and tried again. This time if I couldn't figure something out I asked for help. Something I was too arrogant to try last time. Now I have a masters in Biochemistry. I never once thought of killing my whole family because I knew they would support me no matter what.
@@crossroads8370 there will be always be someone willing to help if not in person there is always online free services. Even joining a community of people doing the same thing is a great advantage. Hope this helped
Being from an Indian upper middle class family (both parents doctors) I can totally understand the situation he was in. I am in a good place now with my wife and job, but my entire childhood was spent under extreme pressure of overperforming in studies. Every single test was like life and death. If I didn't come in the top two positions, it was either beating with a rod, or other forms of physical abuse, almost torture. And it's not like my case was different. Most Indian/Asian parents are like this. Extremely abusive. I still have nightmares about it well into adulthood (31). I am sure this guy went through a similar horrible childhood at the hands of his parents. I am not saying what he did was right, it was equally horrible. But I understand where he comes from, this family issue is something most of the white people have trouble understanding.
The Halo 3 Killer father are too cruel wasn't a good father, a good parent will always pamper & proctect their son no matter what their son did,. Parent will never send his own child for 23years in prison....this is not fair
i cant imagine being in a life sentence knowing that i threw everything over a 240p 3d item that is now worth nothing in a game that does not exist and having that item with no value
I like how Wavy speaks about this topic in a normal neutral voice. If this was a "creepy pasta channel" they would speak like a zombie with ultra dramatic/creepy music in the background, completely changing the feeling of the essay.
The Halo 3 Killer father are too cruel wasn't a good father, a good parent will always pamper & proctect their son no matter what their son did,. Parent will never send his own flesh&blood for 23years in prison....this is not fair
@@liamlinson7563 That kid had a bright future, he might become a good leader in future but his SELFISH father ruin his son future in the name of so called justice
Man that UK story was messed up, I was jaw dropped cause I was so caught off guard that was the extent in which he went, more vids like this would be sick!
These are disturbing stories to hear. Although the Discord Killer is interesting in that it wasn't gaming related crime, but the players of a game solving a crime.
These are disturbing stories to hear. Although the Discord Killer is interesting in that it wasn't gaming related crime, but the players of a game solving a crime.
@@happyman6271 justified? not at all. Has a reasonable motive? 100% he lost 1k$ However losing money really doesn't justify taking a life, or how much is a life worth to u? 5$? 1000$? 50b$?
Just in case someone hasn’t pointed it out yet, your pronunciation of the Chinese names were AWESOME dude, you getting the pronunciations right are a small detail, but it means a lot 💯
@@Lawls most other people in the world wouldnt go out of their way for me either so im not going to waste my time trying to speak a language i know a cannot speak when I probably would fail even trying
yeah kinda like with mr.anime these are disturbed people who happen to have a hobby a lot of people do that decide to turn to murd3r to solve issues or cause they thi nk it'd be cool to do it.
The media also just like to find any link, the first case actually has nothing to do with videogames. The 3rd one is more about an obsesion about a long distance relationship than the games they played but look up any of the headlines and only videogames are mentioned.
I did the same thing for all of highschool. I was homeschooled and thrown into 7th grade, a complete outcast with zero social skills. I used to ride the subway back and forth all day and make music on my phone. Eventually ended up dropping out and getting a job and got kicked out at 18. I got a room mate, full time job etc. My parents were disappointed but I was living under my own roof… I realized they wanted the best for me in life, but I was the one who had to actually live that life, so I was going to decide what exactly it would be life. Now, 10 years later, my dad and I run a business together and are extremely close…
The Halo 3 Killer father are too cruel wasn't a good father, a good parent will always pamper & proctect their son no matter what their son did,. Parent will never send his own flesh&blood for 23years in prison....this is not fair
this is totally unfair, when i look at his face structure with taoism chinese fortune telling, this kid have future, ... he will become great leader. but unfortunely his SELFISH & unresponsible father ruin his future
@@glibberglobber9358 i feel really very angry & Fxxking emotional right now & cant control myself.., how come such father exist , i thought this only happen in CHINA. he is just a kid & he promise to repent his sin during court session, he feel regret. the judge & jury should grant this kid a chances , maybe reduce 23 yrs prison sentence to 23 hour community services
First one makes me so scared. I was in the very similar situation of Minhaz. Lied to my parents about 3 years. It was so hard to say about my situation. At first, they were really devastated but after that, by their suggestion, I dropped my uni with only 1.3CGPA. Now I've enrolled in a local vocational college about 1 year ago. I'm still depressed but my situation was way worse in 2020. I was in my lowest point. Tried to commit self harm two times between 2020 and 2021. If I wasn't afraid of sharp objects and slaughtering, I might have done the same too.
How's your college stuff going? I don't know much about what you're working towards, and you don't have to go into detail, but I'm willing to lend a little moral support.
i loved gaming ever since i was 7 and have been gaming every since ( im in my 20's) and never have i ever had the thought of hurting someone or killing someone over a game or console
The Halo 3 Killer father are too cruel wasn't a good father, a good parent will always pamper & proctect their son no matter what their son did,. Parent will never send his own flesh&blood for 23years in prison....this is not fair
i loved gaming ever since i was 7 and have been gaming every since ( im in my 20's) and never have i ever had the thought of hurting someone or killing someone over a game or console
I knew menhaz ingame, and helped the devs beta test void, as all the players there came from Epic Perfect World Peacock had made a documentary about it; problem is alot of people wont tell you, alot of the people on void egged him to do it. Dude talked about this for a while before he did it
@@user-fe8gx3ie5v biggest problem is that in the vast majority of cases.. people are trolling or talking bollocks. On the rare occasion they are not, it’s impossible to tell the difference. I bet these gamers were just going along with “the joke”.
@@ascendingknowledge7947 Possibly, but there are also people crazy enough to encourage harmful behavior, either out of apathy or a twisted sense of humor.
The scariest thing about all this is that I used to live in that area of Toronto. I remembered my mother telling me about a boy who had killed his whole family and ignored it thinking that she was just going off about some misinformed Facebook post. Just knowing that I might have seen him while heading to the plaza or maybe even the mall, or maybe even walked by him once while heading home. It’s horrifying
That is the sad part. You never know who the other person is or will do. Most people brush it off until they realize they might have crossed path with said person after hearing about said crime
The Halo 3 Killer father are too cruel wasn't a good father, a good parent will always pamper & proctect their son no matter what their son did,. Parent will never send his own flesh&blood for 23years in prison....this is not fair
I love how you emphasized On the fact that he Lent it out to the “26 year old.” Implying that he was young he made a stupid mistake that cost him his life.
Someone accused me of a death threat when I was in school, and the principal said bullshit like “I know they do killing in video games” so my parents made me uninstall Call of Duty My principal could’ve just been talking about me killing the “victim” in a video game, but that seems too logical for an ancient artifact like her
Watching the photo's of the family of the first guy really made me cry They seemed like such good people, they didn't deserve to die Nobody deserves to die like that
I don't know... that still doesn't justify what he did. I was just having sympathy for fellow human lives. It doesn't matter whether they were good or bad people. What matters is that they were brutally killed. I think it's kinda wrong to think about the dead like that.
That first one god damn bro the discord members did a lot too investigating it's honestly pretty cool in the wake of it all being murder n such. Them calmly talking to him is crazy (i guess it is over the internet but still).
@@user-fe8gx3ie5v little wah wah moral uppity sucky baby. OH NO OH NO IT ILLEGAL IT ILLEGAL AND IT MAKE YOU EVIL. I'd gladly doxx a pedophile, murderer or zooiphile cause to me that's vigilantism for a neglectful system and old loose laws (zooiphila in some states isn't illegal). Doing it to anyone else makes you the game dude and he is so rude he is a gamer with a bad attitude.
@@flauntytee6596 It is. Vigilantism is wrong and illegal in a lot of places. Plus, it's very hard to get away with murder. He didn't exactly work on covering his tracks and he'd be me marked as a suspect simply by the fact he was the only one alive.
I think one that I was shocked about discovering was the Farmville Killer. He robbed his blind neighbour, killed them and their carer after they found out, only to then crash his car into a tree to kill himself. I remember reading it on Wikipedia when I was researching pros and cons of social media at school in like 2012 but I can't find it anywhere now...
@@pajatime2403 I really wish I could find it to share more details, I remember there was a page of deaths related to social media on Wikipedia that I got to through researching Amanda Todd, but I couldn't find it last I checked. Doesn't help that there's a place called Farmville too so any "Farmville murder" searches just come up with that... Maybe there's a way that I can check the page's 2012 format or something?
@@GalarianGuy maybe waybackmachine could do that but i am not too sure but still killing someone over fking farmville must be like lowest of low its literally farming game tf couldve they done
@@Daeca That story lines up pretty well especially with the time period, I just could have sworn he killed the carer that called him out and himself, in addition to the blind man. I doubt and really hope that it happened on more than one occasion. Maybe I read about that one and another article about someone stealing for a different game and my memory merged the two? 🤔
I remember hearing about the second story many, many years ago from one of my buddies who used to play tons of online MMORPG's (preferably WOW & Everquest). I remember him telling me about it because he heard about it from other people he knew online, even to this day it truly boggles the mind.
I've been a patreon supporter for some time, but I know put a lot of time into this video, it was good. Keep on bringing us more strange internet stories !!!
I always hate when I hear killers say “I didn’t want them to know how horrible I was”… like… bs, I could guarantee that if you asked them… they would have chose miserable life over no life at all.
Or my guess, the family of these guys had likely figured out they were pretty terrible before, even if they hoped not, and yet one more example of how terrible wouldn’t be fun, but ultimately not a big deal for others. Especially for the little sister in the atheist case….she likely would be like “yeah, that sucks he faked college….gotta run I am busy.”
I am not trying to justify anything the last kid did but why on earth did his parents get mad at him for playing games and watching TV when he was physically disabled and couldn’t go out and about? They obviously didn’t deserve to be harmed in any way, much less killed, but it’s just plain cruel to take away the only thing someone can enjoy.
As a person from Ohio I remember that day I was shocked because I couldn't believe someone would actually kill someone over a video-game let alone their own family. I remember there was so many studies and articles trying to use this situation as a way to prove gaming caused violence when in reality these people had way bigger issues that needed more professional help rather then a simple relaxing session of gaming. That is the problem with these types of stories people try to use to prove this point.
i’ve been playing video games since the early 80s, and i especially love games like GTA, Halo, Metal Gear Solid, Call Of Duty, but i’ve never stolen a car or murdered anyone….. hmm i wonder why that is 🤔
@@SeenGod because most of us is mentally stable :) As the video mentions in all cases, the perp is usually under some form of duress and they can't cope with it, the games were just a sort of catalyst for their behaviour. The Ohio one in particular....
The last one is prime example of why mental health needs to be taken more seriously. The kid basely lost everything had loved doing and had going for him dude to the injury, so he launched on to Halo as a way to cope. Then he had that one thing that helped him cope with his situation ripped away. No wonder he snapped.
Correct! That and the fact that the father had a very 80's view on video games, not knowing what to do about his sons' addiction and incorrectly yanked away that's keeping his son sane....
Having met Pentacostals, they're some of the most zealous and conservative Christians out there. I wouldn't be surprised if the dad was super controlling over everything his son tried to do, and that was just the final straw. Obviously murder is *not* the answer but there's clearly some deep rooted issues in that family.
That guy's actions are far from moral or correct, but I can understand in an obsurd way as someone who suffers from mental illness. Someone ripping away the one thing that helps you cope with life out your hands and locking it away, I get why he'd snap. His father had very outdated views so the thought of a therapist was probably out of the picture if I had to guess so he probably never had access to mental help. I kinda feel bad but murder is never the answer.
actually both of them were very very very weak i mean for his sister i mean ofc she was taken by surprise (why did i think my entire life this word was spelled suprise... nvm) but her brother actually did little to nothing when he tried to save her and prob even made it even worse it was actually their dad that saved both of them but still it was a nice try to save her which shouldnt be overlooked
Imagine becoming essentially a thief and a lowly person just for $900. Imagine killing a human life, and technically ending your life at the same time over a stolen game item, just why
I think the real issue with the Halo killer was gun access, the father was literally storing his handgun next to the very thing his unstable son was addicted to.
yeah, I kinda feel the father got let off easy on what he contributed to the tragedy. What the Son did was horrific, but the dads stonch "My way or the Highway" additude caused the rift like it does with so many parents who think the iron rod approach will not only work but have zero repercussions, some understanding that his son was coping with the change in his life through this game would have changed everything, instead treating video games like an evil plaguing his home created the hatred that formed in his sons heart mixed with like you said the access to the gun which shockingly gets zero blame in all this
As soon as I heard the name "Daniel Petric" for the last story, my mind just took me back to that kid going to his friend's house and dismembering him with a hacksaw over video game currency on Tibia. Very similar names, though that Daniel's last name was Petry
The menhaz has to be the most messed up story I know people that dislike certain stuff when it comes to family often plan things like moving out or go into depression but planning something like killing your own family is just terrible.
Fr like my mother kicked me out when I was 16 because I was lazy and didn't finish school. Never in my entire life have i had a thought of hurting the woman, even though I don't really like her, despite her being my mother. Also I love video games, especially fps games. Something doesn't seem to add up with that video games cause violence thing lmao
Someone: *commits a crime* Everyone: Do it. TV news: ... Everyone: We all know you want it. TV news: .... he was addicted to violent videogames Everyone: 🖕🤠
I resolved my anger gaming issues when I was 12. Now I'm a chilled gamer. Never played on a pro level tho. We all have to learn to control our anger, it's what differs us from the animals.
I used to get incredibly angry while gaming, throwing shit, screaming and crying. It was seriously ridiculous. I taught myself to just step away and take a break, go for a walk or air out my irritation through cleaning or calming and productive activities. It’s important to remember that games are meant to be fun, to relieve stress and not create it.
One group hides behind screens and technology, spewing horrible words at groups of marginalized people or people they are against, being hated widely for doing nothing pretty much all day on property that isn't even theirs and doing something many wish they could just do all day for money on streaming services. The other group is just gamers lol.
The first story hit close to home. My brother also hid the fact that he wasn't graduating high school. Was a complete shock for everyone. The school was trying to send letters that he didn't have enough credits. And he would stalk the mail and hid anything from the school. Wasted a ton of ppls time and had to return the money and gifts. And then 5 years later did the exact same thing when it was time to graduate college. At this point I knew he was lying. He never showed receipts for paying for classes or school supplies, didn't order a cap and gown. Also claimed he was suicidal. I love him but omg the drama
I don't forgive the killer for his crimes, but there also appears to be a lack of communication between his family and him about their feelings. If family made it more clear that it's okay to confront them about any problems and they won't be judgmental about it, he'd be less fearful about shame. Dude probably made up his mind that his parents are cold and unforgiving.
The Halo 3 Killer father are too cruel wasn't a good father, a good parent will always pamper & proctect their son no matter what their son did,. Parent will never send his own flesh&blood for 23years in prison....this is not fair
I remember my sisters and I cussing each other out over New Super Mario Bros on the Wii if one of us messed up, but we would just laugh about it. They were fun times. I’m really bad at GTA and always wreck the car, but love watching others play it. I believe that these people have severe mental illnesses that have been unfortunately left untreated. Every gamer I know isn’t violent, they just play to unwind from work.
32:20 I am 62, I have gamed enough to have episodes of wanting to re-spawn in RL. Having experienced the Mandela effect I wounder who rebooted me in my sleep?
