The Ghosts of El Segundo | Full Episode 

What is the original air date of this episode?

​@@makt122 July 5, 2005

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Neither the graduating class photo no see no black cops, amazing, ain't that?

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I could not believe he said that. I guess birds of a feather…

Thanks for mentioning the rape.

Especially since they occurred at least an hour later. He had plenty of time to think about what he was doing

Exactly

Indeed. That is irrelevant. There is always free will.

Exactly!

He also absolutely terrorized the other 3 teens who thought they were going to be murdered!

This is why no matter how old one gets, God's justice is pursuing. Numbers 32 KJV 23 But if ye will not do so, behold, ye have sinned against the Lord: and be sure your sin will find you out.

@@oldhickory4686God doesnt operate in revenge. If his heart was changed and he repented God forgave him and forgot about what he had done. He and God were good. But what the bible does say is God forgives but you still have to abide by the laws of the land and there may still be consequences for your actions.

@@meesomebody2000 Show me where he repented.

​@@meesomebody2000but that's only if your truly sorry for what U have done ,truly changed and sorry and he wasn't ,he made excuses for himself but that's all and God can see the evil in your heart ,no matter how many times u ask for forgiveness,He knows .

How easily two murders are reduced to “mistakes” made by a “young guy.”

Dont forget the r8pe. The girl will never be the same and the other boys as well.

Listen to the tone of his voice when he got arrested: "You're coming for me for that ? " It's like he had put the incident behind him, so "how dare you bust me after all these years." Odd tie in I have to El Segundo: in 1977 I worked on the El Segundo Refinery you see in the feature....I lived there for about a year, and saw some of Keith Cleary's HS baseball games at Rec. Park. I wonder if Keith is Detective Cleary's son. El Segundo was where I learned my brother had been killed on another refinery construction job in Alaska......my dad was the head of the construction division of the company that built the refinery I worked on in El Segundo and my brother worked on in Alaska in 1977 where he was killed in that construction accident. It was so traumatic for my family, that we never got answers to how exactly it happened and where were the official reports of that accident. Dad always said: "it's too painful for your mother and I to discuss anything about it." Not a unlawful cover up, but possibly a cover up of convenience since the accident had been because a safety measure of dad's company hadn't been followed.....looking into it would have drawn things out so maybe everyone just tacitly agreed to sweep an inquiry under the rug for one reason or another. It's just been that over the past 2 years, I've awakened and started asking questions, since dad and mom have long since passed away. I've been pursuing some answers and records in my brother's death's own cold case files. I move forward on and off; but every time I see a new Cold Csse Files or 48 Hours Pgm., it encourages me to keep looking for some answers to questions we were never allowed to ask.

@@timmellin2815 I am guessing from the time frame of your personal history that your folks were born in 1920's or so, as were mine. I find that generation had a way of dealing with traumatic history by not discussing it. Neither my parents spoke much of the great depression, nor the war that followed which must have affected them greatly. It was how that generation coped with things, IMHO. And who's to say they were wrong to do so. All the therapy an pharmaceuticals subsequent generations employed to come to terms with tragedy didn't seem to fare much better, TBH. I don't know if any resolution for industrial incidents like you brother's is likely to happen, but you never know. Best of luck going forward. Btw, I worked building refineries in northern Canada for my mid-life years. Heard of a few nasty accidents there.

@@bobgillis1137 Thanks, Bob, very much for your thoughtful response ! The only thing I am seeking is to find out what happened. I am not interested in any monetary things like lawsuits, etc. Too late for that anyway; I just want to honor my brother's memory by following up, so I can know for myself that I haven't forgotten him.

Yes, life can be very, very unfair, and undeservedly short. If someone dies young from a disease, that's a tragedy, too. But losing a loved one because someone else made the decision to end their life, adds a thick extra layer of trauma. Another layer comes with not getting justice. How do we grief properly when our grief is so infected with justified rage against someone we don't even know the identity of? I can't even begin to imagine what that must be like... 😥

Well said Hun I couldn't have said it better myself 💕

Death is even worse.

Likely statute of limitations. As to this report, maybe the victim didn't want her identity disclosed.

​@@aisha2370"Mason pleaded guilty to the murders and was sentenced to two consecutive life terms, with a minimum of seven years. As part of the deal, the rape, robbery and grand theft charges were dropped, which spared surviving victims from having to testify and Mason's family from having to listen to testimony about how he'd raped a teenage girl."

Of course he was. His neighbors only had good things to say about him. He thought that living well erased the evil.

exactly

Being a good samaritan after killing was a way to cope up and.cover up his guilt. He probably thought that changing his life into better and doing good to others can finally eleminate all his sins 😅

I am sorry for your loss 🙏🥺

@@vm3141 thank you!

My adoptive mother’s first husband was a pilot and crashed into a mountain dying, leaving her a widow at 21. She has never forgotten him and mourned his death multiple times a year, literally my entire life and until she passed. I am 55 today. He wasn’t my father, my mother finally remarried and had me with her second husband. But the loss affected her tremendously and it affected us kids even though he wasn’t our father. My point, The loss on such a scale is hard to define especially, when kids are involved and now they are parentless. I cannot truly know how your life was affected for you. But I have some idea, and I am so sorry you had to go through that.

@@kimweidner7351 I was less than one month old. Also a plane crash. It was my dad & the pilot. Small plane. South Louisiana. Crashed into a bayou. Killed both of them. My mom remarried but my life was very strange.

Sorry for your loss

Amen ❤

Me too. Cold cases always affect me. There are a lot of old men out there waiting for a knock at their door

@@cops4robbers663oh yeah. Sadly, we have to trust there’s a hell if you believe in that kind of thing.

The Bible say's your sin will find you out.

@@Everyoneisanartist776 Absolutely

Probably did.

I was thinking the same thing. He probably never got caught.

I agree 🎯

Yeah let's be honest, we all have

​@@Emmanuel-mc9bdThat's not true.

He is a nice man

The rape and robbery and the murders of those two officers tell me he was capable of doing ANYTHING.

I would think differently about it if he had anonymously sent money to the three victim's families, b/c that would at least show remorse, but he thought that he could just turn the dial and live cleanly to wipe the slate clean. Even if he raised his kids to adulthood and turned himself in, I'd at least recognize that as a sign of recognizance. He seems to have a skewed sense of justice - if any at all.

I saw it to on Forensic files

I really wish crime investigation at home was done as thorough as it's done in the West. 🇰🇪

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That's right.I saw this POS when he was convicted.His fake remorse was sickening.He was only sorry because he was caught.All murderers are like that.

"conscience", but yes.

@@bobgillis1137 Thanks for the correction. I appreciate it.

Same here. This one has always touched me.

You’ve let us shelter life if this is the worst case you’ve ever heard about. look up Kelly Thomas. Please admit it that he had committed no crime and yet the police beat him to death and none of them were ever convicted and most of them were not even charged or had their charges dropped during the Obama and Eric Holder administration

Well said

He wasn't sorry.His remorse was fake.He was only sorry because he got caught.And that neighbor that said he made "mistakes" is a fool.

And they all still would have wanted vengeance

They left out some stuff but did a pretty good job considering they only had an hour

That got my attention as well. Sadly, for him “THAT” back yonder was irrelevant. 😭

Did your Dad know those two officers?

It seemed this leopard did!

ITS* spots

Yup, All the witnesses will never be enough, once a villain always a villain

​@@philippamediwake1235or he hid other crimes well while living the rest of his life as a seemingly "upstanding citizen'. Who knows how many other crimes he committed over the years and got away with.

Amen!! ❤️🇺🇸💙🇺🇸❤️

I agree. He has probably committed other crimes that he's never been caught for.

@@AP12360 Virtually all violent men who commit rape do it more than once. Especially back then it was very rarely reported.

Right? 😮😢 But not if it was THEIR family member robbed, r'd or m'd!

"I'm like" - like what?

Same here! I’m addicted! Ugh! And, Lol!

Definitely. I feel bad for his wife, you can hear her around 31:29 crying "what are you gonna do with him?" as he's being arrested. Imagine finding out the man you've been married to for years is a rapist and a cop killer. Poor woman.

Well said

lmao exactly what I was thinking!

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Probably would never convince her any different. Wonder how his family reacted.

I wonder if his golf buddy comes to visit him in prison? Such a great guy. Fantastic diligence on this case.

Whenever a well-liked person is arrested for a terrible crime, you get people who say stuff like that. Their confidence in their ability to judge other people's character based just on their own interactions makes them look extra stupid.

It’s total b.s. on his part.

Or was he just better at not getting caught?

He was hardcore evil. Probably got away with a lot of horrible crimes.

Its possible someone changes bc of this. The alternative is that you will end up doing more crime, hurting more people and dying young, or spending your entire life in prison. I think it was a wake up call for him. Why he got to that day is probably resentment, jealousy, leading to that rape. The cops were accidental, but the actual trigger to change.

@@StofStuiver Spare me .Where did you get that stupid idea? After committing two acts of unforgivable evil he changed.Yeah sure he did.

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Yes, the perp’s arrogance and ignorance are stunning.

Right? And then him crying and telling his wife he didn't know why they were there, but then telling her they were going to put him in jail. He just couldn't bring himself to admit it to her.

2 somebody's. And r a teen girl.

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How can you be happy watching program about people who got murdered and woman got raped? Would you be also happy if this program was about your family members who got killed? Empathy must be a word you don't know.

Ummm or they could simply enjoy the show's production value? We're all here to watch the story, but it's the production value that makes it entertaining, obviously not the content. Sheesh!

Sounds like something a defense attorney would say.

The poor girl hardly got a mention.

Statute of limitations ran out on the rape, burglary, and kidnapping charges. They could only get him for the murders.

Imo it wasn't just rape it was rape of a child

​​@@telluryewhy are you lying?Charges could have be brought because Mr. Mason had left California within three years of the crimes, which suspends the state statute of limitations. "Mason pleaded guilty to the murders and was sentenced to two consecutive life terms, with a minimum of seven years. As part of the deal, the rape, robbery and grand theft charges were dropped, which spared surviving victims from having to testify and Mason's family from having to listen to testimony about how he'd raped a teenage girl."

As part of the plea deal they dropped the rape and burglary charge. The statute of limitations had nothing to do with it

Or he thought they were there for something more recent. And was surprised that they were there for something so old and was sure he got away with.

Not all of them deserve respect. Just some.

Well said

He was stripped away from his family and dignity just like he had done to the two cops and the young teen.

Same ❤

Not for the people who got murdered and the woman who got raped!!!! How can you be so devoid of any traces of empathy? My apologies to everyone who's offended by this heartless comment.

@E-Kat Wow. No one is saying its great that people got killed and hurt. They handled the subject matter extremely well and the show was interesting. That is all. Geez. Maybe you should go watch something else.

I think nowadays many crimes are committed by perpetrators under the influence of drugs. Places were safer back then. Serial killings really got going during the seventies. Years ago people lived in smaller communities where everyone knew each other. There would have been things going on for sure but the abject violence that we hear about now is escalating for sure.

@@philippamediwake1235 I don’t disagree with you. There’s always been something that angers me when people say it was “safer back then…” as a true crime consumer, I’m like, “What!? Where!? When?!…”

I hate those types of posts, especially on Facebook. Boston Strangler, Richard Speck, and so many others were around in the 60s. Terrible crimes against kids too.

They meant it was less common. So, yes, less crime and less frequent crimes, means it was safer.

@@misstara322 I disagree. We can now just see it all, live, as it happens, because of technology, cameras literally everywhere and a 24 hour news cycle.

There were mostly fathers in the home. Take the father out and you mostly get young male delinquents and criminals

It happened quite often, just ask anyone in Ohio or Indiana who was a teen in the 50s & 60s… or look at all the unsolved cases & missing cases.

It had absolutely nothing to do with the statute of limitations. They charged him with the rape and as part of the plea bargain they dropped the charges. Charges could have been brought because Mr. Mason had left California within three years of the crimes, which suspends the state statute of limitations. The same reason Donald Trump can be tried in New York even though the statute of limitations has expired because he moved to Florida before the statute of limitations expired

They're normally people that go out of their way to try to be nice to everyone for that very reason. There are some people I work with that rub me the wrong way for that very reason. Strangely eager to help and be overly friendly in a weird forced way. Psychopath behavior.

Yes, he lives his whole life in that period of time

He only admitted to the crimes because he was caught and they had irrefutable evidence that he and his lawyer couldn't slither out of.