The Life of Coriolanus Snow (UPDATED WITH NEW INFO): Hunger Games Explained 

To everyone saying I got details wrong after the movie came out, this is clearly based on the book which has many differences from the film

Okay but what really gave me the feels was "The Hanging Tree", Imagine Snow just chilling in his office and Katniss bringing it up out of nowhere, it surely hit him like a truck

District 12: *exists* Snow: "That's an act of rebellion!"

'The Hanging Tree' hits wayyy too differently now...

I think that snow hates katniss bc she reminds him of Lucy gray and her rebellious ways

Now we know what Snow's last thought was before he died (after Katniss shot Coin). "Snow lands on top."

Highbottom's statement, "That's the sound of Snow falling." is ironically correct. But it's not Snow falling from power, it's Snow falling away from human decency.

Lucy Gray: sings Snow: So anyway, I started blasting

Tigris. Deserved. Better.

Also the fact that Katniss sung ‘deep in the meadow’ to Rue in the arena as she died and that the last time he probably heard that song was when Lucy Grey sung it to Maude Ivory to send her to sleep by the lake made Snow hate Katniss and remind him of Lucy Grey even more.

It's so fascinating how a lot of aspects of Snow's past ties into his character throughout the hunger games series Can we all agree that Dr. Gaul is the true villain of the hunger games series

Dude NO WONDER snow hates Katniss. She sang two of Lucy Greys songs, even the one she made up. Not to mention her name is KATNISS the thing that Lucy went to collect before disappearing. She also had the fiery spirit and wanted to rebel

For me one of the most shocking things about Snow is not about Snow himself, but the realization of what was about to become of Tigris. His sweet cousin, who was soo caring and supportive of him. She loved him so much, helped him in any way she could. To think this sweet girl was to become completely addicted to plastic surgery, which will lead to her turning into a grotesque cat-looking creature. To think she will become the stylist in the hunger games and THEN fired from this job (most likely by Snow himself, let's be honest) just to end up in a cheap fur store, away from people's sight, forgotten and probably broke. When she meets Katniss, she says ''I'm going to kill him'', Tigris looks really pleased with this thought. It's portrayed beautifully in the movie, the look on her face says everything. He must have been so cruel to her, probably gaslighting, lying to, manipulating just to abandon her completely in the end.

The book was just fascinating, I didn't think it would be possible to sympathise with Snow but for the majority of the book I was on his side and rooting for him to receive a positive outcome. It wasn't until he abandoned Lucy Grey that I remembered what an awful person he would become. In that single chapter he turned from the boy at the start of the book to a total monster. The most shocking part was definitely him choosing to accept the support of the Plinth's despite being responsible for the death of their son without showing any guilt or remorse! I hope Suzanne Collins continues with these prequels as it would be interesting to see the new dynamic between Tigress and Coriolanus as well as further progressions in The Hunger Games themselves

isn't that lake house lucy and coriolanus went the same house where katniss stayed sometimes when going to the lake to swim with her father???

The whole time reading the book I was so confused on how a boy like Snow ended up a tyrannical president but at the end I realized that him thinking Lucy Grey was out to get him made him think that no one from the districts could be trusted. I feel really sad for him tbh. And for Lucy Grey

I found it shocking how quickly Snow turned on Lucy Gray, how he didnt even hesitate to kill her after he found out she knew what he was up to. Snows only loves things he knows wont effect him in a negative way, as soon as things start to go south, he instantly protects himself first. Thats why I think he could never get into a real relationship with Lucy Gray, as he thought of her as a something not as a someone. She was something he could own, she was his girl. Idk its all very interesting.

Coriolanus' class: Lets play a game on who has the longest name!

I really didn't expect the ballad of songbirds and snakes to be closer to the shining than the hunger games.

Total chills on just how quickly Snow turned on Lucy to murder her. And how Snow knew about Katniss's lake- which explains how he knew about Gale kissing her. he probably had the woods watched, or cameras installed. When he lost his last few mementos after being in the lake, i knew he had totally lost all that made him human. Excellent book- i was afraid Susanne would make excuses for him to explain his evil. But no, he was a sociopath to the very end.

Remember when snow said to katniss "it was the thing that we love the most that destroys us" I'm sure he was referring to his love for Lucy that made him weak. Yet it was actually his love for power that destroyed his one possible true love

Does anyone else find it cool how Lucy disappeared just like the Lucy Gray song?

I really wish we knew what happened to Lucy Gray! Didn't realise how fond I was of her until she disappeared

it is really sad just how far snow fell. He was a good person and then became so twisted

Snow is a prime example that once you do one bad thing, it just tempts you do more. Why? Because you realize, okay I've already done something horrible, what difference does it make if I do more? Stay pure.

So basically Snow is Cabbage Man on steroids?

Even though it was ultimately Snow's fault for the man he became, I must say that Dr. Gaul played a major role in this downward descent of evil he would continue on. She's just as bad if not worse than President Coin. It's also a coincidence how two different woman with similar personalities manipulated him to both his rise to power and to his ultimate downfall.

The snake wasn’t actually poisonous. He thought it was at first but the nurse/doctor whatever said it wasn’t and he only passed out and threw up because of shock

Did anyone else realize that the phrase, “it’s the things we love most... that destroys us.” that Snow tells Katniss in Mockingjay has a deeper meaning now because of the new novel? Snow being heartbroken (or destroyed) by Lucy Gray when she released the snake and he gets bit by it (aka the thing he “loved” most) was a major milestone for his decision later on in the timeline when he captures Peeta, brainwashes him, and lets him free with the rebels, just like the snake being set free from Lucy Gray, so he could then destroy Katniss in D13. (Aka her being destroyed by the thing she loved most too). All so Katniss could finally feel and understand the same way Snow felt when Lucy Gray did that to him.

I almost read it as Coronavirus Snow 😅😅

After my brother and I read the book. We rewatched the movies and every time we saw a mutt or creature. We screamed: “Thanks, Dr. Gaul!” 😂

I think Snow was very traumatized with everything that happened on the Dark Days. He became kind of paranoid about the districts rising up against the Capitol again, that's why he was so merged in the idea of keeping them under control.

“Katniss reminded him a great deal of Lucy Gray.” Okay, now I’m getting ideas just from hearing that.

I wonder what was going through ole coryo head when katniss sang the valley song and the hanging tree and if he thought of Lucy grey

People who have read the book : what moment had you the most shocked? Mine was a tie between the tributes that died being dragged beind the truck during the funeral and Marcus being put in the arena after escaping

It’s pretty ironic how he felt really bad for killing Bobbin and couldn’t stop thinking about it and yet 65 years later he’s sitting in the Capitol torturing Peeta and Johanna and sending lizard mutts to kill Katniss and couldn’t care less.

I have watched sooo many videos about TBOSBAS and hardly anyone has picked up on the bit on page 516 (the epilogue) where Snow says: 'She could fly around District 12 all she wanted, but she and her mockingjays could never hurt him again.' By 'she' he is referring to Lucy Gray, but the ironic thing is, and the thing that made me throw the book to the floor and walk around the room arms raised, silently sobbing is the fact that in the end it was the mockingjay that brought about his fall from power, the fall of the Capitol and the fall of the Hunger Games. I agree that Katniss was a descendant of Maud Ivory or CC and that's why she knew the song and about the lake house. In the end the Covey's mockingjay, the creature Snow would always link to his lover, the creature we will always link to his downwards slope towards pure evil, the thing he was certain he was safe from was the voice of the rebellion. i wondered if anyone else noticed this, because I thought it tied everything up at the end. Is it just me? Also I absoloutely LOVE your videos. Could you do the life of Ollivander, Primrose Everdeen and Lucy Gray Baird. I would love that so much. You have been my quarantine lifeline!

I really enjoy his videos, he doesn't make it boring rather more interesting with mixing the narrating with the soundtracks👍🏼 I actually draw with his videos!

Snow is the OG cabbage man

*Spoiler if you haven’t listened* So the book said that the Dr said that Lucy’s snake wasn’t actually poisonous, so she never tried to kill Snow. His reaction/symptoms were due to him having a panic attack

If theres anything worse than a rebellion: *A CHILD*

I always figured Snow was born into his power, and was naturally this cruel, manipulative, paranoid schemer

Since we got this prequel, I think that we should get one about Haymitch's hunger games but it can/can't be from Snow's perspective. I just wanna know what happens in the 50th quarter quell! HBU?

Do a video on Lucy gray and what happened after she disappeared Like if u agree

Kinda funny that Grandmam would spend every waking moment tending to finicky and unnecessary roses on a fantastic flat roof garden instead of growing nutritious vegetables, fruits and herbs to nourish her grandchildren, and teaching them how to be self sufficient in an uncertain and scary time. Good thing she had roses in every room-a literal way of "looking at the world through rose tinted glasses". It was her coping mechanism

I found this really cool theory that says that Maude Ivory ( Lucy’s cousin ) is Katniss’ grandmother. Why? Lucy Gray said that Maude can remember a song very quickly. Lucy Gray sung the hanging tree. As soon as Lucy Gray disappeared music was outlawed in 12. The only other person who could remember that song was Maude. Katniss was taught the song by her dad. So Maude taught it to Katniss’ dad. So this means that Lucy Gray was an ancestor of Katniss

Many people in the comments seem to think that lucy gray actually tried to kill Snow but she didn't. The whole snake thing was trying to show not only how delusional snow was but how he'd tell himself anything in order to justify his actions. She did not plant the snake which snow later realizes when the doctor tells him that the snake that bit him wasn't poisonous and again tells himself that it's better this way anyway. Lucy gray being the expert she was on snakes would've known which was poisonous as suzanne collins makes very clear when lucy grey talks about her knowledge of snakes early on in the book. She wouldn't plant a snake in the first place because the likelihood of it actually biting him would be very unlikely and she definitely wouldn't plant a non poison one to kill him as she's not stupid. The snake being there was an accident. She also definitely wouldn't be loudly singing if she knew that he was out with a gun trying to kill her and if she didn't know that then why would she plant a snake venomous or not? Sorry for the long rant

I tell you, my jaw might as well dropped when I realized Snow knew about those from district 12 been able to escape the fence, all the hiding spots, the lake--everything Katniss and Gale were so careful to keep a secret in fear of what the Capital would do if they find out, all because Lucy Grey Baird showed them to him while he was peacekeeper for District 12. The significance of it being that Snow could have done something about it long ago, and Katniss' life could have been so different to the point she might not have survived the 74th or 75th hunger games due to the fact a lot of those skills she had that helped her survived came from learning how to hunt and fish outside the fence.

Peacekeeper : *steals Cabbages* The Snows : “MY CABBAGES!”

What I love about the ballad of songbirds & snakes, is that it doesn't try to redeem Snow in any way. Even when Snow does commit the rare selfless act, the book is very quick to remind you about who your reading about, by having him do something horrible within the next chapter.

It’s crazy how small moments or certain individuals in life can turn good people into monsters

Honestly the 75th Hunger Games has even more meaning when you realize that Snow did exactly to Katniss what Mayfair + the mayor did to Lucy Gray. They rigged the reaping (in their own ways) so that they would be forced to compete, both were expected to die, and both survived the games.

I always find his affection for his granddaughter quite interesting. A man who sees unconditional love quite pathetic, thinking it turns people stupid, arguably unconditionally loved his grand daughter.

Theory: Clerk Carmine is the(Great) Grandfather of Katniss. A lot of people agree, that some Covey member has to be an ancestor of Katniss. The hints for that are pretty clear. They are all musicians and Katniss's father sang with her and passed a very nice songing voice to her in his genes. They also know about the lake house outside the fence of 12. A hiding spot for Katniss, which her father showed her. A lot of people suggest that Maude Ivory or even Lucy Gray is the grandmother of Katniss, but my theory is, that Clerk Carmine is her (great) grandfather. In the scene when the Covey, Coriolanus and Sejanus visit the lake house, CC took some herbs and showed them to Lucy Gray. Her reakrion was "Oh, you found katniss." In my opinion this could be foreshadowing for someone called Katniss could one day be in his family tree. You could also argue, that Billy Taupe, CC's brother was a rebel. CC could be more rebellios as well. That could be something passed down to his son, Katniss's father who also showed some signs of rebellion when he went to the other side of the fence to go hunting, which was forbidden, as well as singing the hanging tree, a song that is not allowed to be sung. Even if it's not Clerk Carmine, some Covey member must be an ancestor of Katniss. No one else could have known the Hanging Tree song, besides the Peacekeepers.

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They should make a Finnick prequel. I’m really interested in his story and what other secrets he ended up finding about Snow.

Crane's family: A whole life of bad choices 😂

President snow would definitely been in slytherin

I am still glad he got that one last laugh.

Is it okay to feel bad for Snow? It sounds like Dr Gaul was the real villain all along.

My fave quote from him: “They’re holding hands... I want them dead” 💀💀😂

Tribute's deaths in order: Brandy (Girl from 10) - shot by peacekeepers Otto (Boy from 6) - died by explosion Ginnee (Girl from 6) - died by explosions Facet (Boy from 1) - shot by peacekeepers Velvereen (Girl from 1) - shot by peacekeepers Sabyn (Girl from 2) - died by fall impact Panlo (Boy from 9) - succumb by injuries Sheaf (Girl from 9) - succumb by injuries Hy (Boy from 5) - died of asthma complications Marcus (Boy from 2) - killed by Lamina (Girl from 7) with an axe Dill (Girl from 11) - died of tuberculosis Bobbin (Boy from 8) - beaten to death by Coriolanous with a wooden plank Sol (Girl from 5) - speared by Coral (Girl from 4) with a trident Jessup Diggs (Boy from 12) - died of rabies/injuries Lamina (Girl from 7) - speared by Coral (Girl from 4) with a trident, later fell to her death Tanner (Boy from 10) - speared in the back by Coral (Girl from 4) with a trident, later throat slit by Mizzen (Boy from 4) with a knife Wovey (Girl from 8) - poisoned by Lucy Gray Baird (Girl from 12) with rat poison Circ (Boy from 3) -poisoned by snake mutts Coral (Girl from 4) - poisoned by snake mutts Mizzen (Boy from 4) - neck snapped after being attacked by Teslee (Girl from 3) and her reprogrammed drones Teslee (Girl from 3) - Axe in the head by Treech (Boy from 7) Treech (Boy from 7) - poisoned by snake mutts after being tricked by Lucy Gray Baird (Girl from 12) Reaper Ash (Boy from 11) - poisoned by Lucy Gray Baird (Girl from 12) with rat poison Victor: Lucy Gray Baird (Girl from 12)

What if Lucy Grey turns out to be the mother of Alma Coin?

Coriolanus Snow might have become a better person if he didn't give in to his dark side. There's light and darkness inside all of us and we're constantly fighting ourselves to see if we'll give in to our best or worst faults. Eleanor Roosevelt said, "In each of us there is an ability to be a beast but also an ability to reach the stars."

I like to imagine young snow shooting wildly at mockingjays in the woods with his sidearm.

All MovieFlame fans be like: Aww c'mon why doesn't the video start with "Coriolanus Snow Sucks".

You forgot to mention Crassus Snow and Dean Highbottom’s creation of the Hunger Games, along with how Snow came up with the betting and the Victor’s Village.

_"Assaulted by a peacekeeper, who stole his cabbage"_ is one of the funniest things, I've heard in a long time...

Finished listening to A Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes a few weeks ago... SOO GOOD. Also... not at all what I pictured Dr. Gall looking like..?

Did anyone else notice that "Baird", Lucy Gray's surname is an anagramm for "Braid", the physical feature Katniss is best known for? I don't know if that is just coincidence, but that would be a very subtle but cool link between the two female district 12 victors.

Clarification: The snake Lucy used to bite Snow in the woods is not poisoned. It is the panic that made Snow feel dizzy and weak as said by the nurse.

Did I read the book? Yes. Did I just watch the movie? Yes Did I still listen to this whole thing? Yes What an amazing storyteller.

I never expected to enjoy this book as much as I had thought. In the beginning, I was even considering not finishing it. But I'm so glad I didn't. The thing that I think I loved most about it was how Suzanne Collins created Snow's charecter. In the beginning, I was able to sympothize with him, as I did with Katniss. Growing up poor, the loss of his family, etc. I had no idea what to expect because I expected him to be evil his whole life, which was not the case. Early in the story, he was just a driven young man hoping to redeem his family's name. But Gaul was able to twist him into the monster that he really is. And his love for Lucy Gray gave me even more hope that he would change. But no. His need for power overcame the love he felt for her, and even tried to kill her to claim that power. THAT is what made me hate him even more. And it shaped him into the snake that he turned out to be.

I like the theory that Maude Ivory is the grandmother of Katniss and Prim (mother of their father, who loved to sing and passed down the songs "Hanging Tree" and "Deep In The Meadow") and Lucy Gray Baird escaped to District 13 and became the mother of Alma Coin, determined to take down the Capitol as she watched Coriolanus rise to power and play a huge role in the continued development of the Hunger Games instead of bringing them to an end. That's my head canon until Suzanne Collins says otherwise. Thanks.

I hope there are more prequel books planned. i would love one with Coin

The book begins by calling Coriolanus Coriolanus, a sign of his alegience and love to his mother. The book ends by calling Coriolanus not Coriolanus, but simply "Snow", a sign of him finally fulfilling his family legacy and going after his cold, materialistic father.

“they strung up a man, they say he murdered three” hits so much different now

Snow gave Peeta the feelings he had about Lucy Gray after she left the cabin in the woods. He knew the exact emotion he needed to make Peeta feel

3:46 -insert cabbage mans voice from ATLA- “My Cabbages!!!

R.I.P Snows cabbage

Can we appreciate that the hanging tree lyrics weirdly fits Snows life with Lucy Grey, sejance and Billy. Strung up a man ( sejance) Said who murdered three (snow saying it lucy grey) Snow and lucy grey wanting to run away. (Where I told you to run so we both be free.) Also might be a stretch but " a dead man called out for his love to flee" might refer to Billy stupid Theory, Lucy Grey wrote that song and taught the song so people could sing it and remind Snow that she is still alive and messing with his head!

Theory: Draco Malfoy is one of Snow’s ancestors

I just bought the new Hunger games book, I have to read it.

In the epilogue (I think) it said something like “... and he was sure he would never have to fight (or something like that) a mockingjay ever again...”

"Snow, angry at the game maker had him killed in punishment for his slip-up" that about sums it up

I wonder if his hatred for district 13 also stems from the fact his family lost all their wealth from its destruction. To find out it still exists would be a tough pill to swallow.

I think it's pretty cool that "Baird" has a similiar pronunciation to "Bird"... And both of them, Katniss and Lucy Gray, are "songbirds" - And it's awesome, cause Snow's demise was precisely "a girl from District 12", and not once, but twice in his life

Lucy escaping to District 13 and becoming the rebel leader instead of Coin would have been a great tie-in to the Hunger Games series. Having no one know about their past would have added intrigue to their battle for Panem.

Wow, the image you chose for young President Snow is terrifying😂😂

I do wonder if Snow ever theorized that Lucy Gray might have survived and fell in love with another man, a man who would become Katniss’ grandfather. Snow knew that Lucy’s death was never officially confirmed, so he might have wondered if Katniss was Lucy’s granddaughter.

i think its just heartbreaking that they got rid of all traces of lucy gray and that everyone eventually forgot her

That's a weird interpretation on Dr Gaul, I always imagined her as the doctor from Spiderman Spiderverse lol

Why did i think snow was a baby when the hunger games started

The snake wasn't really venomous! The one he claims the Lucy hid. At the doctor he found out it was all in his head...

Who’s coming back to this after the movie

I knew it would be worth the wait. It definitely shows a different side of Snow, and honestly, it really does seem like he killed the person he used to be.

Good summary but you left out that Lucy didn't actually poison him with a snake, she chose a non-venomous snake as she didn't want to hurt him, unlike him who tried to shoot her

does anyone else not know how to pronounce their names so when you’re reading it just read it as like cornsisnsngaeu 😂

Here after the trailer of the new movie about him

I thought it was really cool how you stuck the scenes from Harry Potter in the video. It actually worked very well and made quite the epic crossover