The Man, The Pinto & The Cleveland 4V - Ford 351c 4V Hi-Port 

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351c 4v was a big block guys...

@@amjrpain919 small block you dummy

@@amjrpain919 The Cleveland was the 335 series engine and it utilized a small block bell housing and its big block canted valve cousin was the 385 series (429-460). Another cousin, the 351M and 400 used the 385 series big block bell housing pattern.

@@amjrpain919 As a Ford mechanic for over 20 years, a student of Bob and the Cleveland I can assure you just doing a simple Google search will prove how incorrect your statement is. Any C4 or C6 transmission from the Cleveland era that will bolt up to a 302 Windsor will also bolt up to a 351 Cleveland.

That’s cool 😎 👍🏼🏁 Appreciate the comment.

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hes burning in hell,only chevy men get to heaven

@Mike Barnes only chevy racers go to heaven...ford racers are in hell being boiled in semen in a giant satanic skull cup...its horrible

@@jquest43 You just keep your bucket 1996 Chevy. You've never even drag raced. I bet you have 3 Uncledadcousins

@@johncholmes643 you insult my dadbrother,..keep driving ford,lol

Totally agree 💯 He was keen with plenty of ingenuity 🧐👌🏼🏁

Definitely Cleveland powered. The Doomsday Machine. Never beaten. Cleveland power rules!

I thought I would share this with y'all; First off, I'm a nobody. I had an older mentor when I was 20 something. He was a Ford fan, then I became one. I studied the Cleveland and read many articles on them. I had a 78 Fairmont 2 door (not the Futura) in 1984. I gathered all the parts for the Cleveland build for the little Fox body Fairmont but fell on hard times and had to sell all. The cat that bought my 4V Cleveland (quenched chamber) assembled it and whipped up on a bunch of guys at a local asphalt track that bowties dominated on. A very proud moment for me that my creation won a feature race. I credit my mentor and of course Bob Glidden.

@@Pappy63 that’s badass 👍🏼🏁

It was mostly him and Dyno Don Nicolson in the mid 70's. Have you driven a Ford lately?

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Just doing my thing. Thanks you for the comment 🔵💪🏼🏁

I agree 💯 . Thanks for the comment 👍🏼🏁

Feel the same when I had a GT HO Falcon

@Greg Korte … It’s been said that all good things come to an end… or do they ? I’m 68 years old and still active in building and racing Clevelands. I’ve owned the same 1970 Mach 1 for 39 years. It’s an original 351C, 4-V (M-code) car but the original engine was long gone when I purchased it from the previous owner. Someone had swapped in a ‘72 Cleveland so I didn’t feel like I was committing a sin when I began doing engine upgrades. I was also fascinated by the engines that Bob and Etta Glidden were dominating Pro Stock with so as soon as I got my Mustang, I began looking for the right parts to build my own. The D1AE-GA quench heads I located were professionally modified by Endyn Inc. and they have the full high port exhaust conversion along with the other modifications done by Glidden and the rest of the dominant Pro Stock Cleveland teams back in the day. The heads came with a choice of Endyn intakes that had been extensively modified in the plenum area and port matched to the raised and filled intake ports of the heads. I definitely regret not getting the tunnel ram intake that was available but I had my mind set on using the original factory installed Shaker Scoop Ram Air setup because it’s a rare option due to the relatively low number of Cleveland powered ‘70 Mach 1’s that they were installed on and it just looks kinda cool. I chose the Edelbrock Scorpion single plane intake instead because it’s design is a better choice for the Reed solid roller cam setup that I bought. At first, I thought a fiberglass hood modified for clearance with the Shaker assembly would be required but everything fits under the factory hood with NO room to spare 😳. Back when I was buying up parts it was almost impossible to get one of the rare Ford aluminum Cleveland blocks but I located a wholesaler that specialized in used virgin short block cores and he had a nice stash of four bolt main Clevelands only $150 each. Another regret for not buying all he had but I did end up with a couple of solid D2AE-CA 4-bolt blocks. If you ever get the itch for another Cleveland, the aftermarket choices are the best they have ever been. There are two American sources for alloy Cleveland blocks and one of them is about to release his TrackBoss Cleveland block cast in a special iron alloy. Both aluminum and iron TrackBoss blocks feature true Cleveland architecture which allows factory and aftermarket components to bolt right up. They look identical to the D2AE factory blocks but internally they have been completely re-engineered with priority main bearing oiling, thicker support bulkheads, billet 4-bolt main caps, longer cylinder walls for additional stability at BDC when using short CH stroker pistons and more. Thanks to a number of Australian and American manufacturers, alloy cylinder heads are available for virtually every application possible. There are several impressive Cleveland builds on RU-vid ranging from stock block and heads to all alloy strokers in naturally aspirated trim using a single 4-V Holley being run on a dyno and bumping the 1000 horsepower mark. Awesome stuff for sure but don’t take my word on, just ask any disgruntled GM fanboy 🏁 Check out the TrackBoss details. tmeyerinc.com

Yes, the small block Mopar motor was a tough motor to get to work....it was all about getting cylinder heads to flow at the right torque curve....he got things to really work....Glidden also ended hi career back with Chrysler.

@@SSGTA440 I did not know that.

@@SK-tr9ii Odd part was, that the late great John Hagen developed a low deck 366 inch hemi with a very short stroke and D6 cylinder heads he ran in a very similar Plymouth Arrow, and set the NHRA mph record at 165.13, which was faster than any other car with a small displacement mill, that year before they went to the 500 cubic inch maximum. Adapting the Hemi heads to the low deck 383 block was nothing short of engineering brilliance. Imagine what Glidden would have done with that application if he was still with Chrysler!!

He did that to prove a point.

@@dj4monie Just wondered...do you mean Hagen or Glidden?

That’s just incredible 👍🏼🏁 thanks for sharing.

I was at a IHRA nat race and we got rain. So the race is delayed. Bad right, naw I'm got so lucky. Sat and talked racing with Bob and Etta for about a half an hour. Then walked up and talked with Eddie Hill and his wife. And to make it the best time, track officials needed vehicles driving on track to heat and dry race track. My little Ranger was on the broadcast of the race later and it's a day I'll never forget. 2 weeks later Glidden and Ricky Smith were back at Milan for Superford Nats to match race their Pro Stock Birds. When I saw Bob he asked where was I during the next rain. Cool he remembered even though it was only 2 weeks. Great days

@@sparkyguitar0058 …. The IHRA was the sanctioning body at Atlanta Dragway from the grand opening in 1976 until the NHRA took over in 1980. They would also put a convoy of street cars on the track driving in a continuous loop from end to end as a means of speeding up the drying process after a rain delay. They had a jet track drying machine but the cars got the job done much quicker. Sadly, 2021 was the final year for the Southern Nationals at Atlanta. After 45 years of continuous operation the facility was sold to foreign investors to be completely demolished and the land is supposed to be used to build a battery manufacturing plant for electric vehicle batteries. WHAT A TOTAL BUMMER 😵‍💫. The strip has a rich history of historic runs along with a few horrific tragedies. I enjoyed racing there and it was a good venue for spectators as well. It will be missed by many.

Haha built to last that’s for sure. thanks for the comment & sharing appreciate it 👍🏼🏁

After getting the car ready for the next round, Bob took time out for his fans.

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Great Story, appreciate sharing with us 👍🏼🏁

Very true 👍🏼🏁

Canted valves were the key reducing flow restriction.

@@murphystreeter That and building up the floors & raising the roofs.

Smaller combustion chambers will surprise you.

@@murphystreeter Makes the valves really close to the pistons too.

Cool story, appreciate you sharing that. No doubt the Glidden🏁Family we’re passionate determined bunch......caring & sensitive also from some interviews i have seen 👌🏼🏁

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And that’s why his nickname was Mad Dog

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Thanks, appreciate the comment. Yes it would be cool 🤷🏼‍♂️ But running 8s in them early yrs is just crazy.... i think we were doing them et’s in the late 80s in 🇦🇺 pro stock...... Ahead of their time in that Clevo kicking arse 💪🏼 🇺🇸 🏁

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I remember Bob Duffy of 'Duffy's Performance Specialities' telling me that the only ones getting rich in drag racing were the ones selling parts to the racers. And he should know. 🙂 I also remember a racer who had this on the back of his car: "Some men became moderately wealthy in drag racing ... but they were filthy rich when they started."

Amazing story & thanks for sharing that with us appreciate it. Yes sure did have a positive input & outcome in the sport. Respected & appreciated by so many, especially the Ford fans 👍🏼God Bless them , RIP Bob 🏁

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Your Welcome & Appreciate the Comment 👍🏼🏁🏁🏁

Appreciate you sharing that with us, thats a cool insight 👍🏼🏁

Adding that solenoid out back , and rerouting the original S wire to pull it in, keeps that big old + cable dead that runs to the front , except during cranking. That shit scares me when I see it with the + hot all the time ,not a cool scenario in an accident.

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@@MrTheHillfolk not a bad idea there , a bit more work but why not. or you could put a inline 100 amp fuse near the battery also.

@@radioguy1620 Fuse ain't gonna do it for safety. Here's a kit , now you don't have to buy this because I'm sure a lot of people probably have a Ford solenoid kicking around somewhere and some wires too. The diagram is worth 1000 words. But wire it up like this shows and you'll be good and safe as you can make a relocated battery. www.madelectrical.com/catalog/tm-1.shtml

@@MrTheHillfolk …. Thanks for the electrical information link. Lots of useful stuff 👍

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I hear ya ...Everyone is quite shocked that my car is still Ford powered .

I had an uncle who had a 73 Mercury Montego MX with a 351C I got to drive it a few times when you needed to pass another car you needed to be 90% in the passing lane before you stepped on it otherwise you would rear end the car you where trying to pass.

Agree 100%1

My most favorite engine ever,cleveo power

Kblackav80r..totally 100 percent agreed m8.ford strong 4eva

That's why I've been a Ford guy since I was 18 . My dad had an old Chevy Belair six standard that I learned how to drive in. But the huge amount of Chevy worship when I was young turned me off. Even now fifty years later I will watch any other cars race if possible. Who wants to be another Chevy disciple, not me.

Haha just thought it was a humorous touch 😂🏁

Yes 💯, that was a sh#t go 😕🤷🏼‍♂️

The Cleveland was purpose designed for NASCAR tracks back in the '60's, and had to be used in street cars to qualify....the bad exhaust port design on the 4V heads was used to fit the exhaust into the cramped engine compartment of a street car.

That’s so cool👍🏼🏁. Don’t forget to subscribe for more OldSchool Cool🏁

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Interesting, thanks for sharing that. Yes i have a OEM Nascar block on my supercharged Cleveland. 👍🏼🏁

Yes Lee was really good but they were cheaters. They used totally illegal head castings that solid with no water jackets so obviously they were not production items. They got them out the back door of GM. In any other sport, every victory would have been strip and given to the runner-up. IMO they never won any championships cause they are CHEATERS,

@@rickh633 they also surprised glidden with the 500” rule. Gm already pretty much has a motor ready while glidden had to start from scratch! “429 shotgun engine” came along

@@Joetrout They did it to screw over the Bob. NHRA knew that GM had nothing that could run with the Cleveland even with the BS lbs /cuin penalty. Bob told me he was running a 327 just to keep the car at min weight,/ The GM boys were cheaters. They used totally illegal solid head castings with no water jackets so they could port them anyway they liked. How more power would Bob have made with solid heads in the 351 and the boss? Back in the later 70's Bob told me the reason he lost in Seattle that day was because his head developed a crack and leaking.

Yes Lee Sheppard gave him a run for his money.

i appreciate your nice comment 👍🏼 He was the man 🏁🏁🏁

@@69JANKS 🐐 GOAT

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That’s a cool story KC thanks for sharing👍🏼🏁, i do believe you💯, when your super keen & passionate about stuff i never doubt👍🏼🏁. The first alloy performance style Cleveland head (A3 Motorsport) was designed by the late 70s -early 80s & derived from the ongoing mods made to the 4V Cleveland head at the time by ProStock racers (filled floor intk, raised exhst plates, Bob Gliddens welded up/re-shaped chambers etc) so the A3 was the start of alloy performance Cleveland heads so to speak🤷🏻‍♂️, but your right…. These big name guys/corps do gain knowledge from the average racer or “know how” guy & put it in action😕🤷🏻‍♂️ i also have had a similar thing or things where I’ve thought of an idea or part & realised yrs down the track someone has actually put it in production 🤦🏻‍♂️lol it’s how some of us gearheads are in sync & keeenly thinking always about hp on certain applications. You would enjoy the next vid on some 90s stuff, stay tuned & thanks👍🏼🏁

Wow that’s cool 👍🏼 thanks for sharing i appreciate it 👍🏼🏁🏁 Yes he was a smart cookie that even the “🏁gov-bodied🏁” was against him 🤷🏼‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️..... Early 80s when they switched over to Big Blocks (500ci limit) he’d snatched up all the Boss 429 stuff (shotgun Hemi headed) & whipped their a%s with that for like the next 15yrs straight haha prior he’d already copped weight sanctions against him & his Cleveland’s even though his competition was of same Ci anyhow 🤷🏼‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️.... He’s was the Man 💯 🏁

Wow someone must of painted a different picture of it haha 🤷🏼‍♂️..... Actually still referred to as Small Block down here🇦🇺, probably just an easier term 🏁

Well there you go, some early day refinements 👌🏼🏁

Thanks & your welcome 👍🏼🏁

Yep there sure was, always adding restrictions against it & the car it was in 🤷🏼‍♂️🏁

Thanks Tim 👍🏼.... a lot of hack-work that’s for sure & determination . Around the early time of my NA Capri, i was at the race shop where I’d seen my very 1st & only set of Hi-Ports , i was gobsmacked at first. Couldn’t believe the determination at whoever did & went thru all that work. That 378ci Clevo ended making 670’ish hp & ran 9.9-10.0s in a 68 Falcon sedan in those days..... late 90s. 💪🏼🏁

@@69JANKS very cool mate. In my shed right now are 4 sets of high ports. I he e never ran them before. I sure will with these two pro stock builds. That Clevo in the falcon with high ports is getting it for sure. Thanks for the vid

@@DragBoss351Cleveland appreciate it Tim, doing my bit for all the 🔵 guys. Yes they’re gonna be some cool builds , period correct combos, nuthn better then that 👌🏼🏁

@@69JANKS thank you. Get this talked with Trickie last night for over and hour and half, wait until that comes out

@@DragBoss351Cleveland no doubt 👍🏼 They had a Badass 2V headed combo in our heavy XY GT Falcons that Ran well into the 10s also 👌🏼🏁 Looking forward to it 👍🏼🏁

That was common when heavy con rods were used.

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That’s cool 👍🏼🏁

Cool, But what a shame 🤷🏼‍♂️🏁

Haha i bet you would, that’ll wake up the neighbourhood for sure 😎🏁

Sure does 💪🏼🏁

? He was so dominant with the Cleveland & the GM's couldn't beat him that GM pushed for the rule change to big blocks only.

@@foxfordcatguy2283 he could have used the 400 motors , same heads

Thank you, appreciate it 👍🏼🏁

Bradley VanTassal. Ford Probe GT? That car wasn't even a Ford.

@@bmdbigfeet1031, I'm sorry. Were they labeled and sold as a Ford Probe GT, or did I get that wrong?

@@bradleyvantassal8328 No ,not at all. They were based on the Mazda 626. This should break your heart though. The Probe was a ladys car. The controls and interior features were designed with women in mind. Sorry about the bad news.

@@bmdbigfeet1031, doesn't break my heart. I'm a GM guy. Only Ford I've ever owned was an '07 Ranger Edge 4X4.

@@bmdbigfeet1031 Many Probes have been turned into drag cars with a lot of success.