The New York Hardcore Chronicles 10 Questions w/ John Joseph (Cro-Mags / Bloodclot / M.O.I.). While shooting the "Forever And Always" segment for The New York Hardcore Chronicles Film we managed to fit in 10 questions.
My favorite HC band since I bought their Demo Right before the Age of Quarrel record released in 1986’ Seen them tons of times In NY in the 80s and 90s. L’amours, The Ritz, CB’s, Wetlands, Beacon Theatre, Etc. Best times
"the old man... What does he hear in/this kind of music/why don't you ask him/find out what you need to know/how old is old?/you haven't lived all the reasons to live/how old is old?" ~Dag Nasty
First time I saw the Bad Brains was the night after Christmas in 1982 at CBGBs. What a sick, amazing experience. Been a fan ever since. First ever hardcore show I saw was Reagan Youth, the Cavity Creeps and (I think) No Control at CBGBs.
John Joseph speaks the truth, man... listening to him speak here and tell it like it was/is really blows my mind. Not only is he a legend, he I'd super inspirational. A lot can be learned listening to the man here. I'm coming up on 58 real fast. Listening to John speak comes at a real good time for me. I was there in 82, 83, much of the 80s at CBGBs... I think I'll be getting John's books next year as I want to start 2023 on the right path. Glad I took the time to watch this.
I'm the former drummer of Santa Cruz California Uzi Suicide... my first tour was 15 years old 48 states. I then went on to join Veil of Maya a metal band out of Chicago Illinois at 18 years old. I'm not as nearly as you but my heart belongs where yours is and I've taken a a similar Journey... I will be 33 years old on July 25th 2020. I've been watching you for a couple weeks now. F****** right on hands down get in! Thank you man.! You know what I'm saying without saying it! Keep going.. Iron Man!
what i have experienced and accomplished and happened to be a part of is very important to everyone, im from Yankeeland, where even punks are like this... interesting interview nonetheless. peace
Im not a fan of john j, but he gives good advice and he's straight down the line. He should'nt put down metalheads, we do group together if someone needs help. He deserves some form of respect ,even if i don't agree with some of his opinions, he's one of the godfathers of hardcore!. All the best to ya all.
Exceptions aside, the sense of comradery and unity is definitely not something inherently in the Metal world. It was primarily about booze and pussy, and hopefully getting money. And the best bands all hated each other.
Hardcore and metal have a lot of crossover. It's a shame that John said that about metalheads. I won't hold it against him. But he's wrong. I love both metal and hardcore. Both styles have influenced my drumming and I love to play both, because there are a lot of similarities drum-wise, guitar-wise and vocal-wise. Yet each has their own signature too. And I've done plenty of metal promoted benefit shows.
Also theyve kinda blended together for a newer sound in todays hardcore scene. Knocked loose, old wolf down, incendiary, turnstile. I think its awesome.
I've been trying to figure out who is in the wrong with this band. Did Harley really rip the band off? And if so why isnt there any apologies from him? Seems really weird to me. And if there was an true apology why is there still beef? I grew up listening to Age of Quarrel. John Joseph was and is a badass front man
I don't know if we'll ever know, it's a lot of he said/he said stuff. Harley's memoir "Hardcore" is an epic read that definitely gives a different version of events but who knows. I don't think that any band has had as much drama, bad blood whatever than the Cro Mags. I guess we've just to to try not to pick sides and just enjoy it for what it is, you know?
Solid interview. However, John, you're wrong about Metal Heads not doing benefits. Just because it's not happening in NYC or DC doesn't mean it's not happening. Don't make it to where Hardcore and what you as the only form of music that supports a cause or family.
Love John, have met him before and was very cool, but yeah he's wrong about the Metal scene. Here in the Bay Area there have been numerous benefits, more recently for Sean Killian the old Violence singer who needed a liver transplant. Maybe he was just talking about the east coast scene.
lol. Metallica own their record label idiot. Metallica donates money off every ticket they sell to the local food bank in the city they play in. They've been doing it for a long time and didn't tell anyone about it because they didn't want twats like yourself thinking they were doing it for that reason. They only recently came out about it to get fans involved and to come down to the local food banks and work with them. They also donated all their polar prize winnings to charities. Try not to be stupid all your life, actually try to know what you're talking about. And Metal and punk bands have influenced each other since the beginning.
Bullshit. There are lots of Hardcore/punk guys who like metal. And there are tons of metal bands that sing about real life topics like Sepultura, Nuclear Assualt, Megadeth, Metallica, and there are tons of punk bands that evolved into metal like Bad Brains, Suicidal Tendencies, Exploited, DRI, COC, oh yeah.....and even Cro-mags. Sorry, but Best Wishes was a metal album. And there's also a lot of punk bands who also don't do social conscious lyrics like Misfits, etc. And Rollins is a huge Black Sabbath, Slayer, and Motorhead fan, but Rollins also listens to a lot of jazz. And if there are some punks that don't like metal that's fine, there are plenty of metalheads who don't like punk and think punk sucks because they can't play their instruments. And a lot of them can't play their instruments. I love Chaos UK, but those guys can't play worth shit. I love both genres and think it comes down to personal taste. To call either one crap is stupid because each genre has something to offer, and if punk artist think metal artist have nothing to say then they're not looking deep enough and their opinions are completely ignorant. Even Bones from Discharge just said "metal is just hardcore played by better musicians." I've been a metal/punk fan since the 90's. I still have all my Black Flag, DK, Discharge, Circle Jerks, Minor Threat, Agnostic Front (and the list goes on) albums. I also still listen to just as much metal. Even the dudes from Sick of It all, and Madball are into metal. Lou Koller said him and his brother are big metal fans.
wait a minute, i just flashed on something - the person in the photograph with the mowhawk... who is that person ?? only asking because that face looks real familiar to someone I knew from going to shows at CBGBs during the early to mid 1980s...
You are a very very sick individual. At least you never got chased around the park by him riding his bike with a live chicken in the bike's basket. LOL
@@JimiLoko0822 I knew a guy who told me that what the papers reported wasn't the whole truth. This dude knew of a guy who used to sit on St. Mark's and claimed he was a wizard. He'd give readings for money etc...I always got a bad feeling when I saw this man but I wasn't talking to him. So my friend tells me that Rakowitz killed this poor girl for a Satanic type of ritual! Y'know he may have been right! Scary!
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Crazy Dave was a notorious punk. The Alan Boys were a Latino street gang. Daniel Rackowitz murdered his girlfriend then made a stew out of her and fed it to the homeless in Tompkins Square Park.
metal wasn't doing shit charitable until there was a realization that it was underground and essentially in the same boat as hardcore. go ahead and play your at the gates riffs and other needlessly contrived bullshit. hardcore is a mindset, not an image or a singular idea or anything that can be possibly quantified. it is an expression, not mathematical dissection of music theory. it is feeling, passion, and everything human and nothing a computer could be programmed with. don't take that the wrong way, i like metal. but defending it in some connotation that hardcore and metal are the same thing is purely naive and ultimately ignorant. same boat? yea. not easily digested by the masses. still apples and oranges. i wrote the aforementioned after reading the comments defending the metal scene as if metal bands and their followers really look out for one another. phht. whatever. bring the flak. world peace cant be done.
If you've run its been with kipchoge if you've swam it's been with the marines if you've biked it's been with froome if you've sang it's been with flood that trumpet of yours must be worn out by now
***** A bunch of bands did a benefit show for Chuck Billy from Testament to help pay for his medical bills when he had cancer. Also Metallica playing the bridge school benefit for disabled people. The list goes on.
Whoa know it all ! This mentality that u have saying metalheads dont.........your precious hardcore IS metal... All hardcore is?; 'hardcore' is just a metalized version of punk rock
@marvelousmarvin71 hmm yes and no.. I think as they got better and more modern equipment, modern recording studios, etc., their sound changed... it does sound heavier, but doesn't mean it is less hardcore.
@@grep67 90 hardcore is not the real deal , there are some great bands for sure but the music style changed a lot they mixed a bunch of heavy metal and hip hop influences ,and that came with a lot of cringy trades that we still see today in "hardcore" bands and some how they refer to it as real hardcore now and the 80s just turned into "hardcore punk".... You might want to reconsider what bands fit into metalcore.
@@JimiLoko0822 Sorry but Discharge from the UK were playing faster and harder than anyone in the very early 80's. I saw them in NY in Oct 1982. Metallica copied Discharge as did every other speed metal band. It's true!
No better hardcore band than the Crowmags! Saw them 3 times. They opened for Motorhead of all people at LaMour's Brooklyn. Blew them off the stage. Lemmy couldn't handle the skinheads stage diving. He kept stopping the show to tell them to stay off his fuckin' stage!.
