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The Pantera Reunion Is A HORRIBLE Idea! 

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@themetalmeltdownofficial
@themetalmeltdownofficial 2 года назад
Its really fun to watch 40-50 year old men who keep claiming to be super strong and tough and impossible-to-offend breaking down immediately upon hearing somebody disagree with them, and genuinely hilarious to see y'all get even more upset about Charlie Benante's name being mispronounced. Imagine being so easily triggered by such a simple mistake. Gonna turn all your comments into a drinking game so keep the hate coming. 😎
@crash587
@crash587 2 года назад
I'll drink a Gatorade along with you drinking beer or vodka if that's okay with you.
@UnderWorldOfDarkness
@UnderWorldOfDarkness 2 года назад
Dude, why are all you metal news commentators so anal retentive. You seriously need to relax, have an enema, do a cleanse, something. You have issues. ...get help
@AstolfoTheRiderOfBlack
@AstolfoTheRiderOfBlack 2 года назад
What's even more funny (at least to me) is that a guy, with over 200K subscribers said in the comments pretty much the same thing that the other fanboys keep saying, which is "Gatekeeping is bad, im going to the concert either way" all while at the same time he is Milking a company called Gamestop for views, not to mention, he also made a video 2 months ago literally titled "Johnny Depp WILL NOT win this Trial" which you know. Is funny considering he won said trial.
@themetalmeltdownofficial
@themetalmeltdownofficial 2 года назад
lmao what, who is this mystery person
@AstolfoTheRiderOfBlack
@AstolfoTheRiderOfBlack 2 года назад
@@themetalmeltdownofficial i think his name was something like Camelot with caps, but you'll know it once you see a checkmark next to his name, which is only given to channels with over 100K subs
@LouShine12
@LouShine12 2 года назад
Agreed. The only reason this is happening is because Vinnie isn't around to say "No!".
@peeweedinosuar3281
@peeweedinosuar3281 5 месяцев назад
That was litterally ny instinct on this whole thing. Once vinnie was out of the picture resting in peace with his brother dime. Phil and zakk wylde wasted no time finally getting this reunion going. Dick move phil. Dick move
@SuperStrik9
@SuperStrik9 3 месяца назад
Facts.
@Samotbackwards
@Samotbackwards 2 года назад
This is like Ringo and Paul doing a Beatles tour, or the remaining Queen members doing... hey wait Queen is doing that!
@themetalmeltdownofficial
@themetalmeltdownofficial 2 года назад
Lmao yeah Queen still being around feels... weird. At least Adam Lambert is a better replacement than Paul Rodgers was.
@Samotbackwards
@Samotbackwards 2 года назад
@@themetalmeltdownofficial Adam Lambert is a great singer in my opinion, but without Freddie it feels weird. And I agree, Adam Lambert is better than Paul.
@mgtowmichigander5528
@mgtowmichigander5528 2 года назад
This is going to fail miserably
@jasondismuke4837
@jasondismuke4837 2 года назад
This is more like Sammy and Michael, or Michael and Dave doing a tour without the Van Halen bros.
@albertrivera5443
@albertrivera5443 2 года назад
Don't forget Slayer did it also
@brucekenkel3688
@brucekenkel3688 2 года назад
Pantera, the Cash Cows from Hell
@richardpunzalan4347
@richardpunzalan4347 4 месяца назад
😂😂😂 😆
@EnslavedAngel_bruh
@EnslavedAngel_bruh 2 года назад
Evil Phil Anselmo be like : I love minorities
@AndDeathForAll82
@AndDeathForAll82 2 года назад
He straight up threatened to kill Dime right before he was murdered. That’s enough for me to hate this.
@DeadPixel1105
@DeadPixel1105 Год назад
"Sticky McDicky and the Fuck Bunch" 😂😂
@jibrilgoodwin3328
@jibrilgoodwin3328 2 года назад
Jeez what's next , a Type O Negative Reunion and Peter Steele as a hologram?
@turboturtlehead
@turboturtlehead 2 года назад
That would be better than trying to replace him with someone else.
@johnsimpson8974
@johnsimpson8974 2 года назад
Its not a Pantera reunion, it's 4 guys playing Pantera songs.
@stevensutherland5443
@stevensutherland5443 2 года назад
Opinions man. Everyone has one. PanterA has always been my favorite band. I’m now 40 and saw them live 10 times back in the 90’s and early 2000’s. Got to hang out with them multiple times too. I’m almost positive this will NOT be billed as a “Reunion “ but as a tribute. Zakk was one of dimes best friends and Charlie was also very close buds too. They will do it right and although they can’t duplicate Dime and Vince exactly I don’t think they are trying to. It’s gonna be a tour to honor the legacy of Dime, Vince and the band. Like it or not it happening.
@neamia3
@neamia3 2 года назад
Has nothing to do with opinions it has to do with one of the last recorded interviews with Vinnie Paul on that metal show he said there should never be a Pantera reunion cuz dimebags dead so it'll never be Pantera this is just a cash grab and it said. They're literally doing what Vinnie Paul asked and said to never be done so he's spinning in his grave dying and Vinnie Paul are probably spinning in their graves right now
@alexsixx5049
@alexsixx5049 2 года назад
Dimebag and Vinnie hated Phil until their last minute of life period
@wallyk9188
@wallyk9188 2 года назад
Finally bro your the first fucking guy that gets it 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘 NOT A FUCKIN REUNION
@vampirascoffin870
@vampirascoffin870 Год назад
It's a crash grab/reunion and then a tribute to some and Vinnie let's keep it real sorry Pantera 40 year old fanboys
@MRSludgedude
@MRSludgedude Год назад
@@vampirascoffin870 yea im not for it but pantera has never Been dethroned as hard as gojira and new death metal bands try.
@ps1182
@ps1182 2 года назад
As someone who genuinely strongly considers Pantera to be their favorite band ever, I absolutely am against this idea. First off, you can’t replicate Darrels guitar playing or Vinnie’s drumming period. Second off, Phil, as much as I adore his fucking voice, had alot of problems during Panteras fame that resulted in them breaking up. Third off, like you said, Darrel and Vinnie don’t want Phil to be part of Pantera anymore.
@itsalwayssomething7490
@itsalwayssomething7490 2 года назад
I agree somewhat. But, it's not up to Dime or Vinnie to say who Pantera is, its beyond them. It belongs to the fans they created with their music. When Damage Plan was formed, it was nowhere close to Pantera, so obviously the magic wasn't just with the brothers. They didn't sound like Pantera, but Pantera wouldn't sound like Pantera without them. The magic was with the 4 collectively. Phil is as much as the sound of Pantera as any of them. And it was when they got him that Pantera took off after years of going nowhere. So, obviously he was key to their success. I think the main problem people are having is how it's being labeled. They have no problem with Phil and Rex playing Pantera songs. But, it's clearly not a reunion. That seems more like the media spinning it to create a buzz, to create controversy for clicks, to created engagement, which it's clearly doing.
@CM-ng9kv
@CM-ng9kv 2 года назад
Pantera without Anselmo is just damage plan. Damage plan had nothing special with both Abbott brothers. Phil made pantera a powerhouse, not the hair metal band they initially intended to be.
@ps1182
@ps1182 2 года назад
@@CM-ng9kv while Phil Anselmo was a big part of Pantera, you have to remember. Pantera wouldn’t exist without Darrel or Vinnie. They’re the ones that founded Pantera in 1981 and back then Phil wasn’t even the singer. Terry Glaze was. Also Damageplan kicked ass and idc what anyone says
@THMS-bb4zx
@THMS-bb4zx 2 года назад
You think you are very purist, I saw the news and I was happy because I saw it as a tribute, not as a meeting and it is obvious that dime and vinnie are unmatched and this tribute will be for them
@ps1182
@ps1182 2 года назад
@@THMS-bb4zx I never said I was pure. Nobody is pure. I just bother to do my research
@PanasonicWerewolf409
@PanasonicWerewolf409 2 года назад
Great video as always Metal Meltdown, keep up the good work.
@mindful2864
@mindful2864 2 года назад
I love Pantera and they were one of the first metal bands I ever got into. With that being said this is a horrible idea. Vinnie and Dime were the heart and soul of Pantera and without them you don't have Pantera. Zakk Wylde is an insanely talented guitarist, but he doesn't have the same style that Dime had. Charlie Benante is a great drummer but he doesn't have the same style as Vinnie does. If this was a tribute to Pantera I wouldn't mind but it shouldn't be called Pantera without the Abbott brothers.
@rightchordleadership
@rightchordleadership 2 года назад
No one is calling it a Pantera reunion except the press. The band has made no announcements so far.
@mindful2864
@mindful2864 2 года назад
@@rightchordleadership It probably is just the press. Most metal publications are bullshit anyways.
@lukewise3244
@lukewise3244 Год назад
If it's a Phil and Rex thing, just call it Pan.
@ritualdeathmetal
@ritualdeathmetal 2 года назад
I don't really think that it's a bad thing. Of course it's not going to be the same as it would be if Dime and Vinnie were alive and participated on the tour but I am happy that they decided to put all this bullshit aside and do it for the fans. If you think about it as a Pantera tribute tour then it's not really something to scoff at. The band could never be as they were in the 90s but at least some of us will have the opportunity to see 2/4 alive members play all these legendary songs after 21 years under the Pantera name.
@dougk359
@dougk359 2 года назад
I've had really mixed feelings about it but ultimately came to the same conclusion you did. Bring it on.
@MovieGuy666
@MovieGuy666 2 года назад
like Vinny said... your selfish.
@l.salisbury1253
@l.salisbury1253 2 года назад
Remember the early UK punk band The Ruts? ("Babylon's burning") When their lead singer Malcome Owen ODed the surviving members continued as RUTS DC ("Ruts De Capo"). Recently they released a kickass reunion album under that altered moniker ("Music Must Destroy").
@themetalmeltdownofficial
@themetalmeltdownofficial 2 года назад
Honestly I don't, but I'll check it out! Always in the mood for some gnarly punk tunes.
@HerbertWestward
@HerbertWestward 2 года назад
It's more like a celebration, and not a reunion.
@maxl3570
@maxl3570 2 года назад
take a shot every time he says fuck
@frankmartin9958
@frankmartin9958 2 года назад
Phil said Machine Head can Open as long as they don't Play anything from the Wigger Era
@TERMINATOR-0002
@TERMINATOR-0002 2 года назад
This shouldn't happen in the slightest. They should honestly just let it go.
@jasonalvarez6995
@jasonalvarez6995 2 года назад
. They don't have to do this. At the end of the day this is treat for most fans wether you think it's for money or not. Dimebag and Vinnie or not we are still getting the opportunity to see a group of awesome musicians playing music we absolutly love. No one is making you go the shows, but I guarantee many of the people trashing this are still going to be there. If you dont like it then simply just dont attend. This in no way actually means anything to you nor does it affect your life. I'll have more respect for you if you keep that same energy and not attend any of the shows at all. Some of you are thinking too deeply into this. Who gives a shit if the tour isn't labeled the way you want it to be. If it makes you feel better then call it a tribute tour in your own head. You're telling me you will all of a sudden change your mind and attend if it was called a "tribute tour" instead? Lmfao regardless people will still attend these shows in the masses to just simply see an awesome set of musicians playing some kick ass songs. It's as simple as that. Sounds like a fun night to me regardless. Get over yourselves.
@loganc1158
@loganc1158 2 года назад
I love Pantera, but this whole thing just rubs me the wrong way
@keepthemetalflowing
@keepthemetalflowing 2 года назад
BTW, got caught up with all this but you made a great video and some EXCELLENT points. Thanks for posting.
@jimmyroberts9528
@jimmyroberts9528 2 года назад
No,I'm not having any of this. Let the great abbot bros rest in peace with their legacy intact.
@brusselslover9333
@brusselslover9333 2 года назад
Money (greed) is the root of all evil.
@jackcoleman1784
@jackcoleman1784 2 года назад
That moment when you realize Metal Meltdown isn't an Anthrax fan.
@themetalmeltdownofficial
@themetalmeltdownofficial 2 года назад
Hell nahh, Anthrax slaps
@jackcoleman1784
@jackcoleman1784 2 года назад
@@themetalmeltdownofficial I'm really just teasing that you pronounced Benantes last name wrong ^_^. Loved the video and I agree it's a terrible idea.
@bugcatcher8989
@bugcatcher8989 2 года назад
Come on as someone who never got to see them originally I’m grateful for the opportunity to see the surviving members with the blessings of the Abbott family! I’m stoked to hear some awesome metal and see some live music again!
@sole__doubt
@sole__doubt 6 месяцев назад
Ive never seen a more obvious cash grab.
@Phattypimp83
@Phattypimp83 2 года назад
This is all so spot on man. This is exactly what I’ve been trying to tell people online. This is not something Vinnie wanted when he was alive..Phil wasn’t even invited to Dimes funeral. This is absolute horse shit
@integrity101
@integrity101 2 года назад
No. You fans destroying the bands legacy because you are caught up in melrose place drama like a bunch of crying teenage girls, is horse shit.
@SteveKaynan
@SteveKaynan 2 года назад
Completely agree!
@integrity101
@integrity101 2 года назад
@@SteveKaynan Think more
@SteveKaynan
@SteveKaynan 2 года назад
@@integrity101 😂
@Nameless_Bastard
@Nameless_Bastard 2 года назад
It’s not a reunion! That is impossible. It will be a tribute tour. Which is the next best thing. Let’s all just appreciate this thing for what it is, and celebrate dime and Vinny, and the legacy of Pantera.
@dougk359
@dougk359 2 года назад
Yep, the media is calling it a reunion but the fans know better.
@sole__doubt
@sole__doubt 6 месяцев назад
All of what you said would be true if they werent calling the band Pantera. Thats why the media, and everyone else, is calling it a reunion.
@Springfeeeel3
@Springfeeeel3 2 года назад
I don’t know, I really can’t see why they can’t make a tasteful tribute to the band. People shouldn’t have huge expectations or get too upset over this thing.
@josephwiacek8123
@josephwiacek8123 2 года назад
Makes you wonder if the original line up would have reunited after Covid. So many bands did. I was in high school when ‘Far Beyond’ came out and already was a huge fan. Phil destroyed his life and relationships with his hardcore addiction issues. I met Vinnie at a CD signing while he was in Hell Yea- awesome guy. Pantera has this raw unmatched power in their prime. Nothing at the time even came close. They pretty much carried the torch for metal all through the 90s. It’s a shame how everything ended for them.
@TobikunOuO
@TobikunOuO 2 года назад
I'm pretty sure that Paul and Phil hated each other.
@MovieGuy666
@MovieGuy666 2 года назад
Vinny went to the grave despising Phil.
@bigyodatheman
@bigyodatheman 2 года назад
I mean, can we step back a second and just appreciate Phil and Rex for not trying to do this while Vinnie was alive and causing a lot of unneeded anger that would have been dragged out publicly? Or that they actually got the blessings of the Abbott family estate to do this instead of going through a legal battle like so many other bands have? There's a certain level of respect being portrayed here that is largely being ignored and I don't think it's fair to ignore it.
@micuentabasura
@micuentabasura 2 года назад
They're doing this now when vinnie can't do anything to stop it, that's "the level of respect" here.
@bannedtwice7767
@bannedtwice7767 2 года назад
@@micuentabasura agreed
@111Moose
@111Moose 2 года назад
@@micuentabasura according to Zakk and Rita, there were discussions of this taking place when Vinnie was still alive. I think his personal grudge with Phil was the only roadblock. Edit: punctuation
@mr.brenman2132
@mr.brenman2132 2 года назад
@@micuentabasura They are half of the Band. It's exclusively Rex and Phil's band now. They can do what they want. Vinny and Dime were in the wrong as far as I'm concerned.
@grahamashcroft871
@grahamashcroft871 2 года назад
@@mr.brenman2132 Vinny and dime were in the wrong ? Explain your hypothesis, did Darrell and vinnie run away from pantera ? Did Darrell and Vinnie stay out of contact with Phil ? Did Darrell say Phil needs to be beaten severely ?
@shaunclifford79
@shaunclifford79 Год назад
Great video..The fact that now they have released this trailer on Dimes Birthday I find highly disrespectful. This is a cash grab the only way they know pure and simple - orchestrated by Phil, Rex & Rita which will also be used to push the new "Dime Guitars" and if Vincent was still alive this would never ever happen.
@superglou913gomez3
@superglou913gomez3 Год назад
It's a cash grab for sure. Rita sues Dean and now this? I'm guessing the Pantera legacy wasn't providing the comfy lifestye that Rita got accustomed to. Vinnie was adamantly against any kind of "reunion". Saying that you're doing this to honor him is straight bullshit.
@Jeff.3
@Jeff.3 Год назад
​@@superglou913gomez3and Vinnie was also holding onto grudges for far to long, dude acted like it was phils fault dime died, Vinnie wouldn't even attempt to contact Phil despite Phil's attempts. I love and respect Vinnie but he was way to salty when it came to Phil
@trevorburns
@trevorburns 2 года назад
The only things I hate about this tour is that it's promoted as a reunion and not a Tribute Tour and I agree call it a band name close to Pantera but not Pantera. And if they decide to make music call it something completely different out of respect for Vinnie and Dime.
@MrCamel2humps
@MrCamel2humps 2 года назад
Fantera
@jasonalvarez6995
@jasonalvarez6995 2 года назад
They don't have to do this. At the end of the day this is treat for most fans. Dimebag and Vinnie or not we are still getting the opportunity to see a group of awesome musicians playing music we absolutly love. No one is making you go the shows, but I guarantee many of the people trashing this are still going to be there. If you don't like it then simply don't attend any of the shows. Simple. This in no way affects your life. I'll have more respect for you if you keep that same energy and not attend any of the shows at all. Some of you are thinking too deeply into this. Who gives a shit if the tour isn't labeled the way you want it to be. If it makes you feel better then call it a tribute tour in your own head. You're telling me you will all of a sudden change your mind and attend if it was called a "tribute tour" instead? Lmfao regardless people will still attend these shows in the masses to just simply see an awesome set of musicians playing some kick ass songs. It's as simple as that. Sounds like a fun night to me regardless. Get over yourselves.
@trevorburns
@trevorburns 2 года назад
@@jasonalvarez6995 Don't get me wrong bro if I have the opportunity to see this I'm going too. I'm just saying if they made these certain changes people might not be soo uptight about it you know. I want to hear Flood Pt. 1 and Pt. 2 just like everyone else 😁🤘🏾.
@johndoderino2609
@johndoderino2609 2 года назад
It hasn't been promoted as anything yet, basically it's just media calling it a reunion with no official statements from the parties involved
@lukeknutson3191
@lukeknutson3191 2 года назад
Dimebag and vinnie put people in the seats at pantera concerts. Around 95' fans were getting sick of phils onstage banter but most people went to see Pantera to see those two. Take those two out of the equation... To me its a sour taste in my mouth considering how phil and rex treated the abbott brothers .
@RWalters81
@RWalters81 2 года назад
Pantera isn't Pantera without Phil. Listen to those early Pre-Phil records sometime.......
@lukeknutson3191
@lukeknutson3191 8 месяцев назад
those early albums are actually pretty damn good.. there is some bogus shit in there too but you are missing out on some killer guitar work. ALSO know that mr. poser anselmo was in several glam bands himself. He needed those guys, like they needed him. It was a mutual understanding. Phil also wouldn't be anywhere without them so stop licking his ass@@RWalters81
@lukeknutson3191
@lukeknutson3191 3 месяца назад
@@RWalters81 I own them fucktard. He was also in a bunch of glam bands too. Stop acting like he was the main reason they changed their style. THEY were all evolving.. Hell even check out a few songs off their I am the night album..they were starting to add thrashy elements before Phil was even in the picture. So get your mouth off his balls.
@jporeo
@jporeo Год назад
now that the tour has started, what do you think?
@themetalmeltdownofficial
@themetalmeltdownofficial Год назад
I stand by everything I said.
@l.salisbury1253
@l.salisbury1253 2 года назад
Plus remember Phil was NOT an original member!
@godetonter4764
@godetonter4764 2 года назад
You did a great job of acting on River's Edge
@AnAxetoGrind
@AnAxetoGrind 2 года назад
Lol dude you were like 3 years old when Reinventing The Steel was released 🤣
@RafitoOoO
@RafitoOoO 2 года назад
There's tons of Pantera fans who never had the chance to watch them live, unfortunately without Vinnie and Dime this is the closest we can ever get to a full Pantera lineup, I think it's great and the music and legacy from Vinnie and Dime might reach a lot of new fans out there, or fans who are too young to have seen them live. People need to stop hating at everything cool that happens lol.
@bugcatcher8989
@bugcatcher8989 2 года назад
Never got to see them before and there’s no chance in hell I’m going to miss this opportunity!
@davidlenz7817
@davidlenz7817 11 месяцев назад
Bonnie and dime wanted nothing more to have Phil come back to pantera and make music. Phil turned his back on pantera in there prime. He started a new band. He didn’t even go to dimes funeral. Dime was shot by a fan who thought he broke up the band. Dime was killed because of Phil. Now it’s a money grab and disgraceful!
@The-AMG3
@The-AMG3 2 года назад
Halftera is what we’ll be seeing in 2023
@Wargasm54
@Wargasm54 2 года назад
I’m 55 years old. Seen Pantera live a few times and even met them backstage on the FBD tour in 94. Most balls out live show in the history of metal. Pantera were unbelievable in their prime. Nobody wanted Pantera as an opening act because they would get demolished by Pantera. So they went on to headline and that’s where they belonged. I’ve been a big fan of Pantera since phil joined them on Power Metal. I knew they would just continue to get heavier and heavier on each album. Meanwhile, Metallica (who should’ve been flying the metal banner) were cutting their hair and wearing makeup. Pantera was the metal banner bearer during the 90’s and they were untouchable. As far as a “reunion” goes…..well, it’s obvious that’ll never happen. Dime and Vin are gone. So a Pantera reunion is not a real thing. If Phil and Rex want to grab Zakk and Charlie to play some Pantera songs then they have every right to do so. But if they do it under the Pantera name, I don’t know how to feel about that. Maybe call it something else. Like a Pantera album name (far beyond driven ex.) or something. Or Fantera 🤣. I don’t know. It’s kinda sacred to us that we’re there to witness the real Pantera. But I understand it. There are a lot of younger Pantera fans that weren’t even born by the time Dime got killed. And I know they’d love to see a show with live Pantera music. So I get it. Phil and Rex were just as much a part of the band as Dime and Vin. But the Abbott brothers did start the band and Dimes guitar is the Pantera sound. So it’s a tough call. I think they can pull it off if they did it properly. I just don’t know what that “properly “ looks like just yet. Regardless, I’ll go see them with my 17 year old son. He loves Pantera and he’s a guitarist that loves Dimebag. I just wish I could be taking him to see Pantera with Dimebag and Vinnie still in the band. But that will never happen. So I’ll have to be happy to see Phil, Rex, Zack and Charlie playing some of the most badass music ever written. I just hope they do Dime and Big Vin justice in the end. Pantera forever!!!FTW👊🏻🤘🏻
@ms.ellenlevy5667
@ms.ellenlevy5667 2 года назад
I saw pantera in there prime as well. I actually am pretty stoked to go. I want to hear and see that music live at least once more in my life. I think they should call it a tribute show rather than a reunion . 🤘
@jrpggolf
@jrpggolf 2 года назад
I feel like Phil and Rex should take a page from The Grateful Dead’s playbook. They have continued to exist in various incarnations since Jerry passed (I’m not even talking about without original line up thing); none of them, however, have used the branding of The Grateful Dead proper.
@kapitanleutnantschneider2076
@kapitanleutnantschneider2076 2 года назад
Yeah this so-called reunion is a hard no for me
@boneheded2819
@boneheded2819 Год назад
It's a money grab and it won't get a Dime from me..... no pun intended.
@bluenothing_666
@bluenothing_666 2 года назад
He could at least call it "Pantera A.D." like Entombed/Entombed A.D.
@viking_sith_lord
@viking_sith_lord 2 года назад
You have some great points. I think the excitement of this news has grabbed people's attention and when listening to facts as you have given more will stop to think about it. I am unable to decide. I like the idea but also agree with you.
@LiberationFrequency
@LiberationFrequency 2 года назад
If it doesn’t have Dimebag or Vinnie Paul, it’s a fucking tribute band
@CRAD_333
@CRAD_333 2 года назад
This “tour” should’ve happened 6 years ago with Vinnie and Phil making amends. And at lease it would be 3/4ths of Pantera.
@Chris-js7lw
@Chris-js7lw 2 года назад
From someone who was there thanks for illuminating this miserable cash grab
@Dorotheeslutman9986
@Dorotheeslutman9986 2 года назад
I've seen Phil since he quit drinking and he sounds good my ex wanted to see Devildriver, and they were with Superjoint, if Phil sounds like he did at that show it should be good, the thing I like is that Charlie and Zakk were Dime's best friends, but I completely understand wanting them to change the name, for fuck sake they already have Cowboys From Hell logos and art they could totally be that and you could throw Pantera around all over their shit without just saying they're Pantera.
@jcmoore5819
@jcmoore5819 2 года назад
If Dime and Vinnie were here, I fully think by now they would have reconciled. I also fully think that Pantera would have gotten back together. It would have took Dime to convince Vinnie. Dime would have been the one to reach out first I think.
@owl509
@owl509 2 года назад
Absolutely, I could be wrong but I heard that Dimebag wanted to go back to Pantera in late 2004 but the unfortunate ending happened before anything was confirmed
@grahamashcroft871
@grahamashcroft871 2 года назад
@@owl509 you're right, it was confirmed by Bobby tongs in an interview and Rita.
@UnderWorldOfDarkness
@UnderWorldOfDarkness 2 года назад
Actually, this guy is a tool. Both Dime and Vinnie said that if Phil got himself together they would reunite. Phil kept making promises to deliver and then Phil would ghost them, not return calls, etc. Their issue with Phil was mostly professional and not so much personal. This guy literally said Phil and Rex did not "define" Pantera. What an idiot. Damage Plan would've taken off if that were true. If there was never a Phil Anselmo, there never would've been a Pantera. At the end of the day, no matter how talented the guitar player and the drummer are, without the right singer ...you go nowhere. I agree with you. Had Dime and Vinnie ever became convinced Phil wanted to get back with them and keep it real ...they would've been all for it. Like I said before, Dimebag said a year or so before he was murdered.
@UnderWorldOfDarkness
@UnderWorldOfDarkness 2 года назад
​@@owl509 You're right? He did. I saw the interview. Phil sold them out. Phil was ghosting them on all their plans to get together. Dimebag said if Phil ever got serious about starting Pantera up again, he would do it. Vinnie said the same thing, only Vinnie was more adamant about Phil showing them something 1st before committing. Have you ever been in a band. I have, few people understand how frustrating it is for bandmembers to not always be showing for practice, business appointments, press, and all the rest. Even for parties. No shows for parties is a downer. For at least 2 years Phil kept making plans to reunite with Pantera and then would cancel, without even telling them. Phil wouldn't even return calls to let them know he was bailing. So yeah, business wise they were pissed at Phil. This guy is tool. he doesn't know WTF he's talking about. He doesn't even know what the estate is. The estate are the surviving family and business partners and not the deceased persons. He stated Dimebag's girlfriend patched things up with Phil in complete contradiction to his statements that the estate would not approve.. I saw the clip where she gave her blessings on the reunion. If Phil released a statement that the estate approved of it, then it's true. PROOF: The moniker "Pantera" is owned by the Estate. The Abbot brothers own it ...therefore the estate owns the moniker Pantera. Phil cannot do a tour as "Pantera" unless the estate gave him permission. Like I said before, this vlogger has no idea what he's talking about. A complete waste of internet 1's and 0's No one from Vinnie's estate has commented, yet this douche is talking in 1st person like he knows these people personally. I'm from Louisiana. I know many of the people in all those sludge metal bands around Pantera. I know the soundman that was working the show the night Dimebag got murdered. Both Phil and Zakk are alcoholics. They get themselves together and put something out that is top notch ...the 2023 tour will be a hit. One last thing. Why do you think they're announcing so early? My guess is they're working on new material and I'm predicting the tour will be supporting a new album. Fuko this douche ....he doesn't have a clue. ..
@colonelhstinkmeaner8547
@colonelhstinkmeaner8547 2 года назад
If Vinnie was still alive he wouldn't because of the bs Phil said about Dime on that interview.
@danzemacabre8899
@danzemacabre8899 2 года назад
In the bigger picture, with all things considered like recessions and wars and pandemics etc. This isn't anything to freak out over.its entertainment . They picked very competent people with close ties to the Abbott brothers.. I've heard of a lot of worse ideas for sure like that Motley Crue disaster. The one thing you can certainly count on is Charlie and Zakk giving 110% and not showing up to just get paid.
@themetalmeltdownofficial
@themetalmeltdownofficial 2 года назад
I've no doubt Charlie and Zakk will give their all (hell they're liking the best part of this whole thing), but the whole still feels disingenuous and gross. I'll concede I'd rather see this than Motley Crue right now lmao, definitive trainwreck band.
@danzemacabre8899
@danzemacabre8899 2 года назад
@Nicholas Colvard if you're into watching wrecks , yeah. So in a way you're right lol
@danzemacabre8899
@danzemacabre8899 2 года назад
@Nicholas Colvard😭....sounds like some damn country lyrics. " Ive been cryin' away on the internet, ive been mopin and whining all night long. But it won't be me who will by a concert ticket to see a band who can't finish one damn song."
@h4h756
@h4h756 2 года назад
you can say as you please but i believe its awesome for all the new gens who never got to see pantera live to get to see a show and open more doors in hearts or the youth who will start more bands in the future do to being inspired by the raw metal no matter if its a pantera cd or a cover band. i myself have listened to pantera since 1991 and seen 13 concerts and when your in the pit you dont see who is on stage. it sucks its not vinnie and dime but something is better than nothing and respect phil for getting on stage knowing 1000s of people will be looking at him knowing what his addiction caused inthe past and also be happy someone can cover dimes riffts
@PVMNZ
@PVMNZ 2 года назад
There's also a unreleased damageplan that has been nearly complete only missing the vocals
@alex_flamer267
@alex_flamer267 2 года назад
17:07 that name! 😆😆😆
@bud1lite
@bud1lite 2 года назад
🤘🤘Im ready to mosh,will be a great tribute
@shannobmayberry107
@shannobmayberry107 Год назад
I saw them twice back in the day and im gonna see them with this line up. It is a good idea and im glad to see it happen.
@ChuckChuckGoof
@ChuckChuckGoof Год назад
Correction: Dimebag Darrell passed away in 2004, not 2003.
@petesaguy1707
@petesaguy1707 2 года назад
Terry Glaze feeling left out lol
@theakkusor
@theakkusor 2 года назад
The only...only... ONLY thing I'm concerned about is holy fucking shit zakk PLEASE show some restraint on the pinch harmonics for fucks sake..
@themetalmeltdownofficial
@themetalmeltdownofficial 2 года назад
we all know he wont lmao
@theakkusor
@theakkusor 2 года назад
Id definitely go check this out, but yeah they should call it something else... then they could totally crank out a couple singles or an EP or something by next year.
@spellman007
@spellman007 Год назад
A sell out is when you go out and play your own songs…
@mylerwilson4879
@mylerwilson4879 Год назад
By profiting off your dead band mates and haven’t been in the band for 20 years
@Me-fr7yj
@Me-fr7yj 2 года назад
Bro get over it. If you look at it as a tribute to Vinnie and Dime then that’s what it is. You’ve got two original members of one of the best metal bands ever alongside one of Dime’s best friends and they’re gonna be playing the songs we love. Some of y’all are never happy.
@AndDeathForAll82
@AndDeathForAll82 2 года назад
1. Phil is not an original member 2. Pantera was Dime and Vinnie. They started the band and named the band before Rex even joined.
@Me-fr7yj
@Me-fr7yj 2 года назад
@@AndDeathForAll82 I’m talking about the version of Pantera that anyone cares about. Dime and Vinnie are everything, I have several mutual friends that knew them well. I’m still buying a ticket the second it goes on sale because it’s Phil Anselmo, Rex Brown and Zakk Wylde playing Pantera songs.
@jojozabra
@jojozabra 2 года назад
how old are you?
@darrelladams4886
@darrelladams4886 2 года назад
I think the problem is that they’re doing this under the pantera name. If vinnie were still alive and participating in this with zakk on guitar playing tribute to his friend dimebag it would be better recieved. But in this circumstance it feels like a cash grab for Phil and Rex. They would be better served calling themselves the cowboys from hell or something. Not pantera
@rightchordleadership
@rightchordleadership 2 года назад
We don’t know that…yet. Keep in mind that only the press has referred to this as a Pantera reunion so far. The actual band has said nothing.
@jamesadams6626
@jamesadams6626 2 года назад
It’s a tuff call with out the Abbots it’s difficult but. To have there legacy continue and to be discovered by ppl even like my son who hears all much I love them he and many can go discover how great Dime and Vinnie
@jeffreymartin6451
@jeffreymartin6451 2 года назад
Who owns the Pantera name?
@allencarey7336
@allencarey7336 2 года назад
DOWN just played at Hellfest and holy shit Phil is ready!! You can watch that LIVE(RECORDED LOL) a channel I'm subscribed to just showed a ton of bands that played Hellfest this year its awesome lots of great bands!!
@Manik530
@Manik530 2 года назад
Thank you for making this video.
@alexroyster182
@alexroyster182 2 года назад
I think it's great. I seen them a few times back in the day. They should call it a tribute since the Abbott bros are not here anymore but I'll go check it out.
@KatarnCrusader
@KatarnCrusader Год назад
I don't exactly know what it says about me - but the potential band name "Sticky McDicky and the Fuck Bunch" made me laugh out loud for 2 minutes straight
@darklight4815
@darklight4815 2 года назад
man,embrace it...it's a tribute and zakk and charlie would never try to disrespect the legacy of the lost members,everyone knows this...i'd go see em and feel good about it
@superdooperparatrooper6947
@superdooperparatrooper6947 Год назад
One would think Zakk should already know what Dime and Vinnie thought about this idea. I've always been a fan of Zakk regardless if it was BLS, Pride and Glory, Book of Shadows etc. but this really makes me wonder wtf he's thinking.
@PacifistNihilist
@PacifistNihilist 2 года назад
When I saw the breakout video on the reunion, I was more like”…huh…” more than “oh my god finally!” because of the simple fact of their is no Dimebag or Vinnie. The Zakk Wyld thing has been in the air for many years of potential players and with that coming to fruition doesn’t surprise me. A part of me would like to see this but i do think it is disgusting if they keep the Pantera moniker. I get it Phil and Rex are part of the Pantera band but just like you stated with Joy Division and New Order bands, they should make it more of a supergroup tribute Pantera band like “Cowboys from Hell” or anything. Idk I’m not behind this really. Also hearing Phil singing nowadays is just horrible. Can’t imagine the his Illegals vocal singing Cemetary Gates or Cowboys from Hell.
@JustMB-sg2pv
@JustMB-sg2pv Год назад
Opinions are like assholes and everyone has them. I think this is a great thing. It's a great thing for the people who don't complain about everything and take it as it comes. There's a reason why we never seen or heard a bunch of whiny pussies back in the 90's but hey it's going on whether anyone likes it or not but hey at least you all have something new to bitch about.
@RealUKBlackMetal
@RealUKBlackMetal 2 года назад
I agree.
@deathdealer8185
@deathdealer8185 2 года назад
It's all about money. Too bad so many metal fans are so incredibly impressionable and easy to buy...
@srobbins1973
@srobbins1973 2 года назад
I wish we could move on from these bands whose most important members are deceased. Let them rest in peace.
@Wargasm54
@Wargasm54 2 года назад
That doesn’t make much sense. Cliff Burton was killed and Metallica did pretty good. Bon Scott of AC/DC died and everyone thought they were done. Yet the put out their biggest album of all time with Back in Black. It’s all a matter of perspective. Would I rather see Dimebag and Vinnie alive and still in Pantera? Yeah, of course. But that’s not gonna happen. I was lucky enough to catch Pantera live in the 90’s. Even had backstage passes for the 94 show in Nashville. Still have my shirt signed by Dimebag, Phil and Rex. Good times. I understand what you’re saying. But if there’s an audience, the show will go on. I just hope they don’t trample on the legacy of Pantera. And with this lineup, there’s a decent chance they’ll kick ass. Only time will tell. All those dudes are getting pretty old (myself included) So if they get up on stage and loiter like old guys, it’ll be pretty lame. If they bring the heat, then I think it’ll work. Definitely a gamble.
@c.f.pedraza4057
@c.f.pedraza4057 2 года назад
@@Wargasm54 yeah but the way Phil and Rex left Pantera, it just leaves alot of people who are on the Abbott brothers side pretty disappointed. They made the name, and started the band. It just looks like a massive cash grab.
@reynutz
@reynutz 2 года назад
Important historically? Yes. Not everyone is that sentimental lol. In 2022 most little kids learn Pantera songs pretty early on because of how, easy they are. Solos included. So I doubt Zakk fucking Wylde would somehow betray Dimes easy af riffs.
@Wargasm54
@Wargasm54 2 года назад
@@reynutz yeah, let’s see you post a video of your rendition of Domination by Pantera . Maybe then your opinion will carry an ounce of credibility.
@c.f.pedraza4057
@c.f.pedraza4057 2 года назад
@@reynutz it's still a little kid cash grab tribute.
@BeardyRedViking
@BeardyRedViking 2 года назад
Nail on the head. Could not POSSIBLY agree more. Massive cashgrab, plain as can be. The Abbott brothers must be turning in their graves.
@nelsonshuchmacherendebo7688
@nelsonshuchmacherendebo7688 2 года назад
Simply put, this is the correct take, Robert. It’s a nostalgia cash grab trip. I’m not opposed to this lineup touring and celebrating Pantera’s legacy (because humans are complicated and it’s legit for Rex and especially Phil to seek redemption, to think through his relationship with his fallen comrades), but using the name Pantera and calling it a reunion is just dishonorable and wrong. Vinnie’s take on the reunion was always 100% right.
@dougk359
@dougk359 2 года назад
No fans are referring to it as a reunion, only the media. We know a reunion is not possible.
@harvesterofstorms4932
@harvesterofstorms4932 2 года назад
The sad thing is that somewhere out there is a Pantera tribute band who sound incredible and will continue to be obscure.
@themetalmeltdownofficial
@themetalmeltdownofficial 2 года назад
Lmao I used to hate cover/tribute bands but honestly some of 'em are rad. Love the ones that put their own spin on the material like Mac Sabbath.
@moogman5
@moogman5 Год назад
If it's going to be a tribute or a celebration, then don't charge for admission...Make it a real tribute/festival/celebration and do it for free and donate to the surviving Abbott family members.
@crapenter3392
@crapenter3392 2 года назад
What else they got? I think there just trying to cash in as much they can!! For me pantera is Phil, dime,Rex and vinnie ! I’m a fan of Wylde, but he’s cashed in on dimes dime since he passed! This isn’t for me, pantera for me will never be again unfortunately, even hearing phill now sing some of there old stuff, just doesn’t do it. Pantera died with the abotts! While it was all four of them, they together made pantera! I won’t be spending any money to see the reunion, might spend the time to watch when available on RU-vid! Just my opinion, my thoughts, not even worth it’s weight in shit! I’m fortune enough to have seen both pantera and damageplan, and grateful! I’ll keep playing pantera and damageplan every damn day till I die!
@jayumanen4484
@jayumanen4484 2 года назад
I'm fcuking happy they playing pantera again
@jjperera3389
@jjperera3389 Месяц назад
Knuckledust, a uk band, can’t think of anyone else who still has the original line up
@lewisb85
@lewisb85 2 года назад
If they did it like the alternative venom or entombed reunions and toured as Pantera inc or Pantera AD etc, maybe I wouldnt feel so bad about it, it's basically like taking dimebash out on the road. It kind of reminds me of what happened with the doors the family of Morrison were fine with it until they got reports from the shows and got them to change their name. Also Zack Wylde, is his legacy going to be replacing dead guitar players who are better than him?
@TobikunOuO
@TobikunOuO 2 года назад
Dime and Zakk were really close friends.
@c.f.pedraza4057
@c.f.pedraza4057 2 года назад
I heard that Rex and Phil signed a contract to do this about 24 hours ago and insanely thought, "PAYCHECK." I don't agree with any of it. Especially how Phil and Rex left the Abbott brother's hanging. The way Phil acted on stage with them, the way he believed he could make a new band better than Pantera. It's been 20 years and yes, there probably is an audience. But this is a cash grab tribute. There is no integrity in this, no character, and the obviousness that Phil and Rex aren't doing as good without the Abbott brother's is blatantly obvious. I'd honestly prefer to see Phil and Rex reunite with Down, before any sort of Pantera bit.
@thegrimmfluencer
@thegrimmfluencer 2 года назад
Who's Charlie Bennett? Why are you putting it all on Phillip, when Rex is doing it too. If anyone is "selling out" then it isn't just Phillip. For the record I agree that this isn't a good idea and not having a go at you, just puzzled that you are only calling Phillip the sell out when surely Rex is also guilty of "selling out"....
@tpecillo
@tpecillo 2 года назад
I never upvote any videos on youtube (fuck all the algoritems n shit sorry to all content creators) but for this video I have to make an exception... Robert your words and thoughts on this is spot on... I 100% agree with you and so should any Pantera fan (regardless of how much of a fan you are). Just to strenghten my argument... I was one of the guys saying that Pantera should reunite with Zakk (however that was when Vinnie Paul was alive). I "disagreed" with Vinnie because I view the scenario a bit similar to Savatage. They managed to replace Criss Oliva and so could Pantera with the loss of Dimebag even if only for a tribute/reunion tour. However it's obviously hard to argue over a brothers loss of his baby brother and if he didn't want to do it then it likely would not have changed after his death.
@troymurphy6531
@troymurphy6531 2 года назад
Phil needs to focus on Down
@archangelofcoffee922
@archangelofcoffee922 2 года назад
15:04 A vulgar display of power.....and money
@TranzparentMethods
@TranzparentMethods 2 года назад
Fact is, this is a karaoke kind of thing. Zakk Wylde, love him, but he isn't as gritty as Dime was, and Charlie is no Dave Lombardo, Charlie can't switch styles as much. He for SURE, doesn't have the power Vinnie had. I honestly can't believe this is actually happening... When Vinnie passed, so did Pantera.
@danzemacabre8899
@danzemacabre8899 2 года назад
Baad take Charlie kicks ass, the actual drummers I know and play with would vehemently disagree with your take . Heard Charlie kill the Rush stuff? This will be no prob for him .and I'm a Lombardo fan too and he's every bit as talented , Dave probably have no pro lem telling you that himself and the proofs I the material and harpies been killing it for decades.
@based_memes320
@based_memes320 2 года назад
Thus came out a bit ago Dime was looking to reunite pantera he just wasn't feeling damage plan as much as pantera
@mulletover3575
@mulletover3575 2 года назад
I can’t wait. Loved every member of Pantera, but they sucked pre Phil. Even CFH was semi-weak. Once you admit that you can let go and enjoy the show.
@grahamashcroft871
@grahamashcroft871 2 года назад
CFH was one of their best albums hands down. It had more of the thrash riffs as opposed to slow groovy riffs far better than reinventing and trendkill. First 3 were the best.
@bridgetgidget1446
@bridgetgidget1446 2 года назад
I agree this is stupid idea. Call it something else. Phil is doing it for the cash.
@shawnrw3727
@shawnrw3727 2 года назад
I agree with all of this . Thanks for the vid .
@zeelong1589
@zeelong1589 2 года назад
You made alot of very good points dude! I agree w you 110%
@MrInitialMan
@MrInitialMan 9 месяцев назад
Name five bands with the original lineup after 20-30 years? Well, since you didn't mention a genre... Hanson (Original lineup: 1992 - present) The Four Tops (Original lineup: 1953 - 1997, when one of their members died) All Time Low (Original lineup: 2003 - present) Billy Talent (Original lineup: 1993 - 2016; their drummer had a Multiple Sclerosis relapse and had to step down) Coldplay (Original lineup: 1996 - present) Radiohead (Original lineup: 1985 - present) Rammstein (Original lineup: 1994 - present) Vanden Plas (Original lineup: 1986 - present) The Strokes (Original lineup: 1998 - present; another guitarist was added in 1999, but no-one left the band.)
@kevinfrimpong969
@kevinfrimpong969 2 года назад
I didn't know Charlie Bennet was the drummer of ANTHRAX. I thought it was Charlie Benante
@Lepetitagite3432
@Lepetitagite3432 2 года назад
I totally agree with all the stuff you are saying, but like If I can go to a pantera or just a show where they play their music under a new name i'd go. Was born in 2006 so never got to see them live so would probably go for the experience although morally speaking it's kind of disgusting what they are doing.
@Raul-vl7ly
@Raul-vl7ly 2 года назад
Great research and facts that I didn’t even know I appreciate the video. I’m gonna have to agree with you on the whole reunion part fortunately I was lucky enough to see them live back in the 90’s open up for Megadeth. I will leave that memory intact the way it is.
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