The Philadelphia Phillies Are Eliminated From The Postseason By The New York Mets

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In today's episode, Connor sadly discusses the end to the Philadelphia Phillies after a 4-1 loss to the New York Mets in game 4 of the NLDS. In a brutal finishing game, and after a terrible season, how in the world did a baseball team this talented come up so woefully short of their World Series goal, and where does the blame get pointed? Next, is this team truly moving backwards as their postseason finishes over the past 3 years would suggest, or is there more to the conversation? Finally, where in the world does the organization go from here as there are numerous difficult decisions for the front office over a long offseason?
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@maxwellalexander9996 2 дня назад

The Mets were the better team for the last 4 months. You guys started strong and let off the gas halfway through the season. The Mets had to crawl back from 11 games under to make the playoffs by being the best team in baseball since June. The Phillies have got to make some changes, and I would start by firing Kevin Long. We went through the same thing when he was with the Mets as the hitting coach. The home run or bust mentality doesn't play well in the playoffs. Too much talent on the Phillies to squander it by letting asshats poison the mindset and approach of the players.

@Shinde425 2 дня назад

Good to know there is a pattern there with Long. He was someone I wanted the team to move on from, but part of me wondered if it is him or if it was the players.

@codyfarmer1 2 дня назад

I don't know that it would matter. These guys are high paid veterans. The only guys on this team with an approach is harper and shwarber. Turner nick and jt just free swinger's probably yo late to change that.

@Albeesqware 2 дня назад

@@codyfarmer1yeah you got a point here, but Kevin Long does not help, I promise you. The OP is right. He was our hitting coach during the World Series run in 2015, but the following two seasons, it just felt like they only hunted fastballs and had a really narrow minded approach at the plate those two years. That said, I was talking to a Phils fan yesterday about this, I came into the series thinking that the Phillies are dangerous hitters but not smart ones. And I would love to see the team chase rate for the Phils in this series. Some of the worst ABs I’ve ever seen.

@claydouglas2526 День назад

The home run or bust mentality won the Braves a chip in ‘21 and the Rangers one in ‘23. Realize you may have not watched either postseason as your team did not participate.

@Albeesqware День назад

@@claydouglas2526all due respect, but I watched both playoffs. the braves and the rangers I would hardly call HR or bust teams. The Braves lineup was incredibly balanced. They hit 4 HRs in 4 games in the NLDS, 8 HRs in 6 games in the NLCS. An OPS of .697 in the NLDS. A whopping .743 in the NLCS. they won because they were an intelligent lineup. Same with the Rangers. They hit a lot of home runs but they were FAR from “HR or bust” in 2023.

@patricksainclair2384 2 дня назад

This guy Connor sounds like he never accepted what this team was the past few months.

@BillRolette 2 дня назад

This team has been playing at a 500 level team since late June. You shouldn't be surprised by what happened.

@chefpetey День назад

@BillRolette 500 was an IMPROVEMENT because May 20 thru June 25 they were under 500

@Man0verBoard 2 дня назад

The Mets are a better TEAM. Go down the line at each position, we're better. The only thing I can give you is that you had a better ace but that's it.

@josephclark7814 2 дня назад

Mets fan here and I agree - the Phillies were the more talented team. But the Phil’s are also a well run organization who will be good for years to come.

@robertday1598 День назад

Realmuto is not the same player he was two years ago, and Trea Turner's looks like he is starting to decline, and Bohm while talented, looks like needs a new scenery. Vientos, Acuna, Alvarez, Mauricio and others will only get better plus the Mets will have millions of dollars coming off the books. Altanta will be at full power next year and they are still young. The Phillies door is closing fast, or is already closed.

@josephclark7814 День назад

@@robertday1598 I hear ya about that but well run organizations figure it out, and the Phils are well run. As for the Mets names above, a lot of those guys are kinda unproven so could take steps back. I like what I see but they’re young (except for Alvarez who I’m bought into). As for guys declining in their long contracts, we’ve had our share. I think we still have Robinson Cano on our books. Ouch. And give me Zach Wheeler back 😂😂😂

@e4music 2 дня назад

Thanks Connor. Always a good take on the Phillies. Hope that Harper can be healthy for the full season next year. It will really uplift the team, and be strong going into the playoffs in 2025.

@larryjohnson1395 День назад

First time listener. I am a Braves fan. Just wanted to hear how Philly feels about getting Phillied by the Mets. It sucks … not sure who I wanted to win that series. I do enjoy how Philly fans support the team. Wish we had that down here.

@DJShire_ATL 24 минуты назад

I’ve always thought Braves are pretty passionate too about our team.

@ryanbourinski8925 2 дня назад

50-47 since the London series June 8-9 42-39 after June 27 (game 81) 39-38 since July 1 This team was feeble since the beginning of June while radio personalities and many fans were declaring them the world series winners.

@Albeesqware 2 дня назад

For context - the Mets record during those same periods: Since London: 62-37 From game 81: 52-29 Since July 1: 49-32

@brian7194 2 дня назад

Thank you Connor for all your episodes this season and I've watch them all since spring training. This really sucks dude

@Jose_Hunters_EWF_Remixes 2 дня назад

So I'm a mathematician, not a statistician - there's a big difference I did get all As in my graduate level stats classes, but I don't want to think about it. So I asked my Uncle Google, and he directed me to a fine bloke named Chris Spark who holds a Bachelor's degree in math and stats from University of Exeter Let's say team A has a .600 winning percentage, that is, the likelihood of winning any game is 60% Further, let's say team B has .400 WP, that is, the likelihood of winning any game is 40% (For the next part, I change the statement of the problem slightly from what Chris says, but I'm still using his solution) To make our lives simpler, let's assume there are only 2 teams in this universe. Also, we make no claims about how these "likelihoods of winning" are derived, that is, how many games they have played, against who, etc. So, according to Chris, in a best 4 out of 7 series, Team A will win the series approximately 71% of the time Now, given that we know the Mets and Phils WPs for the 2024 season, and we're looking at a best 3 of 5 series, I can use an argument analogous to what Chris did in order to compute a pretty accurate idea of how likely the Phils were to win this series. But I'm not going to, because I'm lazily clever I will use my mathematical cleverness to infer that Phils should win such a series somewhere between 51% and 70% of the time For my purposes, that's sufficiently accurate Now, I hate to be a pest, but don't you think you're being alarmingly pessimistic? These are the Philadelphia Phillies, not the RMS Titanic Phils have a solid and balanced team They are getting old, so time is running out But there are 29 other teams out there, and only one team can go all the way All things considered, I like the Phils' chances in 2025 Top-notch rotation, lacking really only a #5 Lineup is potentially explosive Rock solid #3 hitter, dude with 2 MVP notches on his belt BTW Longtime Mets fan EDIT: Here's a more accurate guess In conditions given above, using Method of Chris I claim Phils would win a 3 of 5 series against the Mets around 54%, of the time With margin of error +_ 2%

@BillRolette 2 дня назад

Are you freakin kidding me? Ranger Suarez wasn't unbelievable. He didn't dominate. He escaped by the skin of his teeth.

@willpina 2 дня назад

Agreed, I don't understand the logic of saying a pitcher that only goes 4 and 2/3 and puts additional stress on the bullpen, was great

@james8zaq День назад

@@willpinaI disagree. He had 8 strikeouts in 4 innings

@willpina День назад

@@james8zaq I'm not saying he was bad. But a great pitching performance is going 7 scoreless. There is nothing great about not even getting out of the 5th and having your bullpen warm up multiple times before they finally replace you.

@sirmeeple2681 День назад

@@willpina Exactly. Dude walks 4 batters, gives up 5 hits, throws 97 pitches in 4 1/3 innings. If he left the game up 10-0 he wouldn't even qualify for a win. No idea why some fans are treating his start like it was some inspirational Disney movie.

@Cigar_Ghost 2 дня назад

Love the breakdown, but did you not watch their last 99 games? You can't flip the switch on and off at will and this team was atrocious from June on.

@Shinde425 2 дня назад

Thank you for all your hard work, brotha, the season was fun and I looked forward to these every day

@onegreengoat9779 2 дня назад

As a Braves fan I can sympathize. So far this postseason I've predicted every matchup perfect except the Royals beating the O's. I predicted the Mets over the Phillies because in general I've seen a pattern of the Phillies being the Braves spoilers, the Mets being the Phillies spoilers and the the Braves being the Mets spoilers. Perhaps it's a naive model, but it made sense in my head. I'd like to see all three teams stay mostly healthy for an entire season. My bracket has the Mets winning the WS. They've spent the most money and I think it's going to pay off. We'll see.

@antonchigurh7820 2 дня назад

Connor this Mets fan is a subscriber and really enjoys your podcast. Keep up the great work my friend...

@kyleknapp1985 2 дня назад

Horrible take. How is the bullpen the biggest reason? They didn’t score.

@suckthehead1 2 дня назад

Mets fan here and your bullpen was awful in all 4 games. Yes the lineup got shut down but good pitching stops good hitting in playoffs. Your bullpen was just horrible and blew a wheeler gem and Suarez escaped disaster a few times only for bullpen to blow it again

@brian7194 2 дня назад

In a do or die game. If I was Rob Thompson. I would of pulled Ranger when he did and put Wheeler in the rest of the game and Sanchez game 5

@jonp341 22 часа назад

Zach Wheeler probably realizes he should have stayed with the Mets. I'm sure he misses the Mets organization and we welcome him with open arms if he decides to come back.

@markcarchedi915 2 дня назад

Thanks Connor, see ya next season.

@kyleknapp1985 2 дня назад

You think Thomson is going to admit they’re moving backwards? No way he could say that.

@JeremyWashington1489 2 дня назад

They were pathetic. They had no fight in them and rolled over and choked. I said in July that our bullpen sucked. People attacked me saying their “analytics” were one of the best in baseball. But I could tell by the eye test, they could never hold the lead. They’ve been pathetic and immediately give up runs. The bats and the bullpen should be ashamed of themselves. They got dog walked and they deserved to lose with that effort.

@Ann12681 2 дня назад

They were not the better team since June. As far as payroll, the Mets spent less money than last year by getting rid of their Cy Young pitchers , cut their losses, and let the new manager do his thing. The Mets got to everyone’s bullpen. Perhaps sitting for a week hurt. In the end the Mets were feistier and really hungry and we have a wonderful manager. I am a Mets fan and really enjoy your thoughtfulness and intelligence.

@kyleknapp1985 2 дня назад

Hilarious to me that everyone thinks the Phillies are so talented. Where? Marsh? Stott? Nola? Sosa? Bohm? Other utility guy I can’t remember? Trea turner? Guy sucks. Schwarber, Harper, Nick. That’s it. That’s all you got. Most of the lineup is awful.

@JAYLOVE47 2 дня назад

Exactly I don't get it either I'm confused

@eros587 День назад

I guess that long layoff is looking different now....

@DJShire_ATL 52 минуты назад

To what you said around 19:30. I'm a braves fan and I noticed that phillies fans are intentionally being careful not to talk about having the bye week and thinking it may have affected your offense. Everyone has their opinions on this of course but I couldn't help but notice that the phillies literally choked the same way the braves did last year. I mean they lost game 1, won game 2 (barely), got slammed in game 3 and lost game 4. Exactly the way the braves choked last year. You can't deny it is a possibility but we may never know for sure. But overall I think you guys need to stop ripping on braves fans saying we always make excuses ok it's getting old. I converse with braves fans regularly and I rarely ever see that. People like me never hesitate to call out the idiots on our team who choke and don't bring their game with them. Every time we lose a game it's all we ever do. If you've ever seen the braves reddit page or the main braves FB group it would prove that.

@dprincenj 2 дня назад

That playoff series was a catastrophe

@chefpetey 2 дня назад

Conner... YOU were the ONLY Phillies "pundit" pointing out that the Phils SUCKED back to May 20, or so. All the other announcers kept talking about the slump as if it was only a few weeks long. Were they just trying to KEEP SELLING TICKETS??? Face it, the Phillies had SEVEN GOOD WEEKS all season.

@adamo80nine 2 дня назад

If we didn't have to play the Mets for 7 games damn near the last week of regular season ball, I think we would have won. They studied the Phillies those 7 games and figured out how to handle the NLDS.

@suckthehead1 2 дня назад

That’s the dumbest take I’ve heard for them losing. The Mets lost 2/3 in Milwaukee and 3 days later we’re back and beat them in WC. Your team couldn’t hit and the bullpen was awful in all 4 games. Lucky u didn’t get swept honestly

@suckthehead1 2 дня назад

Yankees played royals last week or 2nd to last week in a series.

@cwillie1492 День назад

Shouldn't that go both ways?

@tonyaiello3050 2 дня назад

That "talented team" dosent matter. It's who playing better at the time.

@kyleknapp1985 2 дня назад

They’re not all that talented. If you really think about it.

@melazaconsabor2028 2 дня назад

The worst part of the Philly is the Lineup. They are in the worst position. Why Turner isn't the first at bat? Is no contribution with a solo Home Run. With a line up like that Grand Slam can be more common. How 5 slugger in a row? Plus Mets Defense is out of chain. Mets is a golden Glove overall team.

@jerseyforhawks День назад

In the moment, our big boys won it for us.

@vtac7627 День назад

It’s strange that you are surprised to have lost to the Mets. The Mets are a better team overall and the best record since ASG. It’s not a small sample. The Mets didn’t overachieve late, they underachieved early.

@sampowellmusic День назад

“Did the Phillies lose or did the Mets win?” Both.

@brian7194 2 дня назад

I'm excited to see how Andrew painter turns out. Much love outta southern Delaware

@ryanbourinski8925 2 дня назад

He's pitching in the Arizona Fall League on 10/12!

@ugiswrong 2 дня назад

Look how estevez is clenching his pants tightly in the thumbnail, poor guy

@brian7194 2 дня назад

We may not win the big one. But we get better every year. I'm disappointed but still proud of the year. Next year will be better then this year. I'll live and die a Phillies fan. It's a chess game. Need a few more pieces.

@eyesontheinsides 2 дня назад

Bullpen failed because the mets continuously out epic ABs on them. Mets absolutely won this vs phillies losing it

@josenegron8628 День назад

You wanted the Mets instead of the brewers Mr Thomas any regrets? 😂

@robinschell3175 2 дня назад

Don't add anymore old worn out players like Whit Merrifield.

@markcarchedi915 2 дня назад

Weston Wilson hit the ball hard 3 times but right at fielders. Ok to me to give him a chance.

@codyfarmer1 2 дня назад

Way better at bats than austin hayes.

@tonetone7572 2 дня назад

nothing to figure out.. baseball playoffs the team that comes in the hottest is the most dangerous , all the regular team stats and standings ect amount to nothing. Mets went from playing with house $ to a team that developed confidence and became clutch in key situations when they needed to- hitting and pitching which made them the better team. the Phillies were very fortunate winning 1 game in Philly and not getting swept.

@juanrosario9861 2 дня назад

i can hear your voice like the one you have after game 2

@JaYPeeDee1025 2 дня назад

2007 is dead This philly collapse is just as bad it took 17 years but we got our revenge and in the playoffs to how sweet .LFGM

@ryancampbell1847 2 дня назад

Man you met fans are starved for playoff wins.. y'all came to every Phillies video to brag like little children???? We have beat so many teams in the playoffs.. you know what I've never done... What you clowns did to to there teams RU-vid videos and boast... Sad

@andrewjones2133 День назад

Phillies ran into a red hot Mets team. Call it like it is……….

@willpina 2 дня назад

The Phillies had the softest schedule in the first half and they took advantage of it. That's what good teams do. But there were signs even through that first half that the Phillies were paper tigers.

@willpina 2 дня назад

I also disagree that the bullpen is the reason why you were sent home. It was the offense

@kevyngarnett2661 2 дня назад

Bro you look like Pete Alonso’s twin lol

@kourastinsley8980 2 дня назад

Lol the Phillies season lasted one week longer then a bunch of 3rd string Braves players.

@shotoutgames8823 День назад

The Mets played better because they are the better team! The Phils were better in April and May. The Mets were better the next four plus months.

@crazybasser7066 2 дня назад

Connor there offense was a problem the entire 2nd half of the season you had to be blind or just plain naive to think that there hitting struggles wouldn't cost them in the playoffs.To be clear though just because I saw this coming doesn't mean I am a negative fan I live and die with this team and I want to see them succeed but the facts are the facts they underachieved again because they are a flawed lineup that has way to much swing and misse and they fail to make adjustments.

@sheldonkessler4168 2 дня назад

Face it. Phila sports teams can't cut the mustard!

@adamkachinosky6187 2 дня назад

bohm should be gone he only go for half a year. that is the problem of being an all star because it is only a half a year thing which is wrong it should be a full year thing.

@eaglefan240 День назад

What drug are you on. Did you see the 500 play after the All-Star break. You don't know if their trending down? You know what I'm not doing watching them next year. They did not show up so I'm not showing up. F the Phillies.

@johnb2712 День назад

Austin hays gotta go man

@sampowellmusic День назад

Wow you look likePete Alonso

@zacharysmith8902 2 дня назад

Aww… what is shame….☹️🙁😕😩😟🥵🤬

@wormsrock 13 часов назад

NAH NAH NAH NAH NAH NAH NAH NAH HEY HEEEEEEY GOODBYEEEE

@dansaeed475 2 дня назад

JT and Bohm need to be fired into the sun

@DMP6969 2 дня назад

Along with Marsh and Rojas

@joselopezmoya9786 День назад

Let's facei it , too much prideful PHILLIES, lack of humility and having a poor second half. The METS had the best second half in MLB, the most come from behind victories and were always humble in their demeanor.