You: If you can't afford gas you don't care about nuclear Holocaust. Me: you were born after 1990 huh? Like seriously, nuclear war is an ever-present and imminent danger, and it applies to poor people too. Gas prices are a big issue, but the whole world dying?
@@ftb3817 This is what you'd do in a nuclear war: die. That's why you'd have anxiety. If a crazy person held a gun to your head and said they would shoot you unless you could recite the entire Bible, you couldn't do anything about it, but you'd still be wracked with anxiety. "You can't worry about everyone in the entire world dying". Lol, ok
@@Roadtofreedom1998 Europe would be wiped out, america would be much the same, Africa without north america and Europe would be wiped out clean, some Asian countries would at frsit collapse and the massive immigration crisis those collapsed nations would cause would probably be enough to divided the remaining nations that haven't collapsed and arent on nuclear fire. The rest of the continents I didn't mention I doubt would collapse but would be turned into poor nations without much chance of recovering for next for decades to centuries
@@Roadtofreedom1998 no they wouldn’t, fallout would cover the entire word for a least a decade it would be impossible for mass agriculture to occur and since Asia is the most populated continent on the planet so it’s all but guaranteed that mass riots and chaos would claim the continent. Of course the mass illegal immigration along with general anarchy plaguing every nation in Asia would would overwhelm all but ether the best(china) or lucky(Geographic wise) militarizes and I feel like given chinas population that their military would be successful and certain regions while in others they would be overwhelmed with those areas going into open revolt against china, for nations that are lucky they would be Japan and maybe Taiwan since there are island nations and instead of having to relay on the military to fed off both desperate and irradiated illegal’s and angry starving civilians they can relay on the navy to sink any boats with said illegals on them while the army focus on quelling the riots, they may just survive if they are really lucky
True, and the few people holding that power are the G7 leaders who always have an annual get together which leads to Satan worshipping. Next time it happens check the date and astral calendar?
Much respect to Joe for always checking himself for not talking to much and hearing the opinion of others, letting people know its okay to think differently 💯 free speech
When we dropped the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki there were zero chances of anyone in the world retaliating with an atomic bomb on us because we were the only ones that had them. Today is a different story. The fear of Atomic retaliation is very real and it’s THE major deterrent
There was a reason why we developed the bombs, I read somewhere that Albert Einstein after fleeing Germany wrote a letter to President Roosevelt stating that the Nazis were trying develop their own atomic bomb to be used on civilian population centers, London being the first. Hence why the Manhattan Project came to be.
Germany had 5 atomic bombs by 1943. This fact is inconvenient for the post-war establishment. Japan also successfully detonated an atomic bomb the day after Hiroshima and they had the bioweapons to genocide the entire American mainland.
As a vet, there was a time I’d die for my country. Now I’m only willing to die for my family from what our country has become. Keep voting for evil, you’ll get what you ask for.
Joe, you need to have Scott Ritter on. He's an ex- US Marine Officer, was UN weapons inspector. his knowledge & understqnding of the Ukraine/Russia conflict is unmatched. Scott Ritter.
LOL! Scott Ritter spewed the lies the US govt wanted him to spew! CIA and "private" military corporations (fronts for CIA/pentagon) had been supplying Saddam with wmds since Reagan was president right up until 3 days before the invasion! Arms dealers/corporations from Canada, UK, Germany, etc., were involved as well. US Marines were ordered to blow the massive caches "in place" when they were discovered with labels leading back to their source. Nearly ALL of them are dead. Even Maj Doug Rokke who conducted the investigation for the Army has lost the members on his team, and he has also been extremely ill as a result. In Beyond Treason, Rokke also exposed how US ordinance, including bullets, transport vehicles, etc., contained depleted uranium which he believed was responsible for the horrendous deformities in fetuses. Studies by Chris Busby using hair samples from military personnel who had served who had fathered a child w/ severe deformities/diseases along with samples from families in Iraq showed that the cause was actually enriched uranium. Photos doctors took of victims indicates thermobaric weapons as well new nuclear weapons/devices were used along with DU weapons. So, the US was using WMD's the entire time as agencies secretly put out false information that there were NO wmds b/c they did not want to be held accountable for the genocides that also included the deaths and illnesses suffered by millions of US troops. The same weapons were used in Afghan, Syria, Lebanon, etc., and most recently in Ukraine. Veterans have tried to expose the truth over and over but their books, videos, etc., are suppressed. Because of the deceit by govt, DOD, and agencies, US troops have been denied the medical care and support they and their families have needed as contamination was spread to immediate partners.
I've gone full stoic over this issue. I think too many powerful people across the globe want a future for that to ever occur intentionally. Even if it did, why should I let that rob my final moments of joy if that is the imminent fate of humanity?
My life changed when I turn the news off, I live day to day and enjoy the small things. If you can do something about it then do it if you can't do anything then why you worrying, there's nothing you can do but exist and attempt to further yourself.
Some of what the guy says in this discussion makes sense and is true, but I disagree that he said nobody can predict the future or the outcome of this conflict. There was a movie called The Omega Code, they made two of those. It was a scenario where the Bible prophesies were deliberately being acted out as they were interpreted so to give the man in-charge of the future. Seems plausible because it is indeed possible to trick some of the people all of the time but not all of the people some all of the time (I may have that reversed by mistake). The Bible isn't some special thing that only God or 'aliens' disclosed, it is a scientific statistic based off of calculating what can and will happen verses the history of what actually keeps happening. Watch Turkey/Türkiye and go read The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperatives -- by Zbigniew Brzezinski.
I'm convinced that the only real problem we have is that those with power feel the need to control, and the fact that feeling is birthed from fear. The people in control seem fearful and panicky. Weak. We have weak leadership. That's what I have the largest problem with.
True. It’s like those that hold the most power are the most scared. But it’s like the old saying “ the higher a msn goes, the further he has too fall” it’s like they gain that much power their petrified of losing it.
This is just human nature. Change the people and before long it'll be exactly the same. Its not these leaders now it's all leaders ever (with a handful of exceptions) humans are just like this. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Mr Sam is really the best option to trade with. When someone is straight forward band good at what he/she dose, people will always speak for them. for me I will say Sam Deymon financial institution will make you happy.
A lot of people forget that 1 Russian man who recently died can't remember the name is the only reason why we are still here. He had the nerve to say the early warning system was wrong and didn't fire back. All he had to do was push the button.
My Grandma was chased out of Nagoya by napalm, then fled to Nagasaki in plenty of time to witness Fatman. The way she describes her experience is that her Mom and Brother were relieved that the war was finally over. The starvation caused by dragging things out sounded far more devastating. My great uncle became so obsessed with food, he became a Chef.
@Brent Deverell Oh, that's such a relief to hear. We should all thank the good-hearted Yanks for dropping those two A-bombs and ending the misery of the Japanese people.
Being American, I actually find most Russian people I've encountered to be as rational and impartial as anyone else. I think it's more useful to empathize with other people, because they often have the same fears and vulnerabilities you do. So, on both sides it benefits us not to see each other as evil demons but to work toward an understanding no matter how difficult that may seem. The reason we haven't already created a nuclear apocalypse is because we all understand what that would mean for everyone.
And not to believe war mongering hyperbole, Clinton started this before trump beat her. He avoided this only for them to oust him and reignite the bullshit story. Puppet Biden has alot to gain here, and his son. So he is being leveraged for the sake of his family. Q.. CHOOSE YOUR ADDICTED PERVERTED SON AND FAMILY CRIMINALITY, OR, STOP WORLD WAR. That his dilema and it should be taken out of their hands. That democratic party should be Utterly banished from politics for the sake of all humanity. Then drian the political quagmire once and for all. For all western governments.
@@jonfungg I dont know how he kept a straight face when he said Russians get their news fron TV that is state propaganda. Like the US is different? Lol Just like the old Soviet joke used to say . He is a pro Ukrainian Nationalist happily working with Western imperialists to commit economic suicide while Ukraine commits actual suicide. A sad fool indeed.
This depends entirely on how far the West is willing to push the situation. Russia has proven its military weakness and incompetence with its conventional forces. It has an economy the same size as Spain and about half the size of the UK, so the delusion that Russia can conquer the whole of Europe like the Wehmacht in 1940 is totally insane. If Nukes are used it will be because the West have forced that scenario. The ordinary PEOPLE of the West and the world don't want this but the Lunatic Globalists at the WEF, together with their lackeys - Johnson, Biden administration, Macron, Merkel, Justine in Canada, the horse faced slag in NZ and whichever anonymous muppet is representing Australia, - will probably go along with it.
I have lived through the cold war of the 60's and 70's and I have always thought if there is a nuclear exchange, I prefer to have one of the bombs drop directly on my head.
@@cheenobeasto8215 I'm the only man in my family who's not serving right now. Giving out more than 50% of my earnings monthly as donations to Come Back Alive (it's a major Ukrainian charity fund, please check them out). Luckily I'm rather far from the frontline but every couple of weeks missiles land in my city. What kind of life our people near the frontline have, I can only imagine - Kharkiv and Mykolaiv are being shelled on a daily basis.
@@rickyr7790 There is nothing to argue here with strangers, especially with Dore fans. Believe him and his guests if you think they want the best for the people attacked in Ukraine.
My friend was from Nagasaki. His mother was a survivor of fat man. 4 miles away., feeding ducks in a park; Pika.....Don..! She still had the visible burn scars. A sobering experience. She translated the japanese voices on 'nagasaki nightmare' the crass anti war single for me. Very emotional, they were suprised that a bunch of cockneys cared about nuclear weapons. As she found out. People are people; politicians start conflict. Not us!
@@GigaSentientGod 'pika' ...describes the flash of the detonation; "brighter than a thousand suns." The term 'don' was described as the sound of detonation a few seconds after. Before shock wave arrives.
Japanese people are particularly uninformed about WW2. They should find humility and put the blame on their emperor for whatever happened. The nukes targeted military infrastructures which were used to hit Pearl Harbor.
Damn I seen a documentary on the after math that happened right after and what the survivors went through. it sounded like hell on earth.. but that's what war is hell.
Even for the bombs from Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the pilot of the bomber which dropped little boy on Hiroshima (which was around 12 kilotons if I remember correctly) said that he could see the ground charring and steaming and blackened, and the yield of that bomb was 1,000(+)X less powerful than the average thermonuclear bomb. That’s insane
I remember they say they're like 45 Hiroshimas all at once. Just years of watching documentaries. But maybe I'm mistaken. I don't think so. But they come in all different sizes. Tactical nuclear weapons, will just take out a small area. Them the zcar Bomba Anyways
Most of all are tactical and are even small than 10 kt. Strategic ones are not in the table when is talking about using nukes. The big ones 100 kt - 1 mt are for MAD, not for use in the field.
@@parasitelights3158 Yes thank you for saying that! I did some research just yesterday actually into the categories of nuclear weapons, I appreciate you adding that😄
During World War II, the Second General Army and Chūgoku Regional Army was headquartered in Hiroshima, and the Army Marine Headquarters was located at Ujina port. The city also had large depots of military supplies, and was a key center for shipping. I would say that made them a military target.
@@bruuuuuuuuuh true and while the soviets lost a lot of men during world war 2 the nukes were in part dropped to scare Stalin from becoming the next Hitler and due to Japan not quitting choosing suicide kamikaze attacks instead of surrender despite their so called allies losing and also after what Japan did to China they kinda deserved 1 nuke imo
@@bruuuuuuuuuhit wasn't "random" but there was a list of cities. Could have been those two cities, could have been two others. I think part of the reason was weather reports, they needed to drop during clear weather.
Joe Rogan is in his mid 50s, he would have lived through the cold War as well. I can't recall a point during the Cold War when nukes were being as openly threatened as they are being now, the nuclear tension was always the unmentioned elephant in the room, all tension had undertones of potential for nuclear apocalypse, but you didn't have leaders explicitly threatening nuclear armageddon like today.
Joe was born after the Cuban Missile crisis. I was too but my mom was very afraid of nukes flying in the 60s. A lot of people were. Joe was probably just talking about his own personal fears but he said it as if it applies to everyone.
In the 80s I bought books on how to survive nuclear war. In the 80s we were very close a number of times. Today as an older person I now fear more then I did then and it's Biden taking us to the brink.
Born 57, we had contingency plans to bomb are way across the Soviet Union an every outher communistic country. My pops ww2 vet was worried an wasn't building a bomb shelter, he knew what a Atom could do.
I am indescribably grateful that this podcast, in all its variety and glory, is available for free. Thank you Joe Rogan and everyone that works to prepare and post such remarkably valuable information to the people. I hope this is translated for people speaking languages other than English. I'm so grateful, thank you so much.
If I was smart enough to make a comment like this, it would be word for word how I feel about Joe’s podcast. Thank you for posting this incredibly accurate comment.
Free? Do you mean free like Universal Healthcare is free? 😆 Joe negotiated a massive payday with Spotify, and that's a good thing. Does anyone really need to state the obvious here? Nothing is free in this world.
Best episode of JRE. So much important things have been said in this episode. Every current issue is touched with most reasonable healthy view. Exactly what world need now, healthy rational thinking. People mostly living thrue internet, through out the day, watching short clips to get instant setisfaction. This is what people should watch to wake up from matrix of that "short clips magic"
The book, 'Hiroshima', gives a chilling account of the lives of multiple individuals, just before the bomb detonated, and the terror filled days that followed; it eventually catches back up with them decades later and summarizes how the bomb changed their lives, their communities and their relationship with everything around them.
If I was a strategic military analyst and had to choose between a mainland invasion of Imperial Japan and dropping two atomic bombs I would drop the bombs again any day. Invading would likely result in over 2 million deaths.
if I learned anything from this clip... it’s that Joe Rogan will say he read the book, but 3 seconds later “everything I’ve heard about Hiroshima I just watched”
I agree. "It's in your nature to destroy yourselves" T1000 Terminator 2. I realize it's just a movie but that one line really hit me hard, even as a 12 year old child.
I absolutely don't believe Putin would push the button just to save his own skin. Everything he's done since taking power has demonstrated his entire focus is on the people and nation of Russia. For him, "existential" isn't personal, but national.
Reminds me of Fritz Haber. Won a chemistry Nobel prize in 1918 for inventing the Haber-Bosch process allowing for agriculture to skyrocket in it's production capacities and therefore feed more people and make it possible for a great increase in the population. However while Fritz did make break through in large scale fertilizer production the same technology simultaneously was used in the large scale production of explosives and poisonous gases used in World War 1. "Harber the father of chemical warfare" New technology often can be used for prosperity or destruction of relatively equivalent measure.
Military technology is always the most advanced on. And during war times it even accelerates. The first airplane took of in 1903. Only 66 years later we landed on the moon. This wouldn't have happened _(that fast)_ without the two world wars. Many people that grew up _(in the West)_ without electricity, cars and water closets, lived to witness all of it. My aunt Jule 1902-2007 was born one year before the invention of the airplane and died one year before the release of the iPhone. During medieval times, generations lived basically in the same world that their ancestors lived in. Without witnessing any development. Quite the opposite. There was a decline. The ancient Romans lived in a much more developed civilization. The population of the City of Rome alone dropped from 1,000,000 around the year 1AD to only 30,000. in 550.
Wow. Just watched this episode after watching this clip. These two are HEROES. Should be shown in every senior high school class in AMERICA. Every one.
Nuclear war doesn't give me too much anxiety really.....but bill gates saying the "next pandemic will get our attention" with dupers delight gives me chills.
It irritates me that a few people have the ability to destroy the world and cause massive world wars and such yet most people don’t want any of this. The people really should stand up against governments all at once.
Then you're already their victim. Free your mind from that which you cannot control. Own the only thing that's really yours, your mind. Good luck and Godspeed.
Uhh... Which 5 years exactly? The cost of Iraq war has been speculated to be ~2 trillion dollars. The US has given ~8 billion dollars worth of aid since the start of the war in february. The difference between 2 trillion and 8 billion, is about 2 trillion.
@@leevin7546 Your information is a bit outdated. Did you miss the 40bn dollar bill passed in May? That 2 trillion dollar figure includes 16 years worth of military operations within Iraq. Congressional research showed that it costed about 1 million per year per soldier due to the logistics involved alone. We were fighting a war half way around the world. Comparing military spending of the two conflicts is a bit folly.
Thomas Sowell seems to have many good ideas, but when he talked about slavery I felt he was somewhat ignorant. He didn't understand the difference between indentured servants VS chattel slavery, he didn't give credit to the Buddhist Ashohka, Hideyoshi, Cyrus the Great or Hongwu or Yellow emperors in ending slavery.
@@aoeu256 Thomas Sowell was only focused on Western slavery. And he was right. The early quakers and puritans were were the earliest abolitionists. Even now, but especially then, Westerners were focused on the west. And slavery really hasn’t “ended.” We still have dozens of millions of slaves. And what difference does indentured make? If you were living as an indentured slave in 18th Century Europe, you had ZERO options. Agriculture was still the vast majority of the economy. Unless you liked working at the quarries, you were screwed.
Whoops, sorry Joe but you weren't correct on that one: "Hiroshima was a city of considerable military importance. It contained the 2nd Army Headquarters, which commanded the defense of all of southern Japan." "The city of Nagasaki had been one of the largest sea ports in southern Japan and was of great war-time importance because of its many and varied industries, including the production of ordnance, ships, military equipment, and other war materials." They didn't "just nuke cities."
Hugely important detail. The way he phrased it made it sound like the US just threw two darts at a map, and if they landed on two fishing villages, nukes to both, surprise fishermen!
Exactly right. It’s easy to sit in your safe chair in 2022 and criticize A bomb decision. Fair warning was given and the Japanese chose not to heed it. A conventional attack on the Japanese mainland likely would have resulted in hundreds of thousands of casualties on both sides
On the question of whether Putin would launch nuclear weapons, the guest said "yes, if he is personally threatened with death". Not so my friend. I've been listening to what Putin actually says since the 2014 Maidan coup when the democratically elected Ukrainian government was removed using violence. He does what he says. No hidden meanings, no obfuscations just the literal meaning of the words he uses. He has said that he would not launch a first strike. That he would adhere to the protocols that the Russians have had in place for decades: no first strike but if a single nuclear missile is launched at Russia then they will launch ALL of their nuclear arsenal!! That means if we, NATO, launches a nuclear missile against them, then we are all dead!! Let's pray that doesn't happen.
Until the guy lied and said Russians believe the lie that nato is going to destroy us and nazis....come on guy people have internet in Russia...they can't be that naive...this isn't 1940 Germany
Nagasaki was a major port for the Imperial Navy. It had been a major ship building facility, but the needs of war had made it a major repair facility. The largest that the Japanese had left. Valid military target.
I remember the “Golden Arches” theory 11:49 from my international politics class at Kent State. There was great hope in those days. Berlin Wall had fallen. Peace had broken out through the world.
Secondly, if you didn’t see this coming in some small part or atleast didn’t see it as possible, then you haven’t been listening. Russia has been saying for decades that Ukraine joining NATO was a redline. NATO promised it wouldn’t expand eastward one inch after the reunification of Germany. There has been a civil war inside of Ukraine which we did absolutely nothing to help resolve except send weapons and arms to one side. Which there is an argument that we may have put into power through a coup. We did not support any negotiated peace to that conflict and it was either used as a pretext or was a genuine reason for this invasion/intervention. Secondly, wether or not Ukraine is simply defending themselves against Russia is debatable depending upon if the civil war was simply used as a pretext to invade or if this can be viewed as a legitimate intervention in the vein of what NATO has done ever since the fall of the Soviet Union. And before. This isn’t exactly a clear cut situation and there is absolutely zero tolerance for demanding answers. Which is concerning.
I am shocked that people who actually have a brain still exist in the West. You said it like it is. If one can’t comprehend the actions of RF just remember that the US was ready to start a Third World War when it felt threatened by the missiles in Cuba.
You have been doing that since the break up of the berlin wall. It is time for an end to such projects for the good of usa and the world. Neo liberal conservatives have been a destruction to the world for the last 70 years if not more.
If we get nuked in the US very soon just know it wasn’t Russia. ICBMS dont exist. Just know it was our own government blaming it on russia. Just like 9/11 and blaming bin laden.
@@jimmyhungai7278 He's a modern day Art Bell. Brilliant people find cures for diseases. They find ways to increase crop yields. They figure out how to provide clean water to remote villages. They find better ways to enhance life. Joe Rogan is an opportunist. He knows that people need a slow drip of whatever chemicals their brains release when they hear the content he provides. He rings the bell. You salivate.
Joe interviews and listens and learns. We are so lucky that we can learn so much from listening to his interviews. He picks their brains and serves info to us. Love him !
@@Ghillieman04 She clearly said that we can learn from the interviews, not from him personally. He knows how to ask the right questions and bring out the best and most interesting shit out of the people he interviews and both us the viewers and him learn from that. She never claimed he's all knowing, get of your high horse Lummox.
In a world of narcissists on adderall, yes, Joes great, but most of my friends are similar, and everyone else’s should be too I think. He’s a god compared to the socially accepted norms unfortunately.
@@spacecat4691 But Ukraine does have Nazis, and they have been shelling and killing Russians in the east of Ukraine for 8 years straight, and NATO has breached the agreement and expanded all the way to Russia's border, so how is it baseless or mindless?
@@Tohdette First, if there was Nato non expansion agreement, please tell me when it was. Or where it was signed or by whom? You will see it was just another urban legend, it never happened. Second, there was no Ukraine Nazi killing Russians for 8 years. If it was, the Russians would not have 1) making up stories about crucified boys with no names, no parent names, no witnesses, no footage... 2) would not have exchanged "Nazi" Azov members (hundreds of them) for one businessman (happened last year). By the way, if the Ukrainians were shelling Donbas for 8 years, how everything there was in place? And now, everything where Russians came became dust?
The idea that the free flow of information isn't in russia is ridiculous... if you think the truth is being told on any news network in the world you are just flat out wrong
@Sean Mitchell a couple of things I'm a 10 year US Army vet who has lived in russia for 3 years... the news here is allot like the news in the states... it's agenda driven and used to tell the public what to think... but because it's russia you call it propaganda... no country on earth has a better propaganda machine than the United States... that is a fact
@Sean Mitchell Hey plenty of Americans say there is no freedom from consequences, which amounts to the same thing. No matter whether the government threatens you, or citizens freely threaten you, you don't have free speech either way.
@Sean Mitchell the truth isn't reflected on any of them... I went to the source .. and let me tell you... it's all bullshit... I have access to ALL news sources in Russia... so the free flow of information argument is bullshit... you know how i know America has the best propaganda machine in the world? For 20 years they killed men woman and children in the middle east and Americans (including myself) applauded... the hypocrisy is astounding
Interesting conversation. I just don’t understand how he can claim that the Russian government’s claims of Nazism in Ukraine are completely baseless. This has been well documented from trusted media sources on both sides, East and West, for a very long time now.
Part of the scripted narrative Rogan was put in place to put forward and help coverup. Rogan = Controlled Opposition. Hence the reason he always has so many state spooks on pushing agendas.
I was left speechless when learned (recently) just how much we, The US, are responsible for pushing russia in a corner, like a cat. The politics go way beyond what most people understand.
The guest seems odd. He accused Germany of destroying Soviet cities but Germany didn't even have heavy bombers. Sounds ignorant. Anyway, he seems loyal to Ukraine. Not loyal to Britain. I don't trust him. He seems like he's just pushing a hidden agenda.
I found triggenometry a few months ago and I can't have enough of these guys no BS just straight to the point they are not with any political side and they examine everything through their own rational scope. It was such a pleasure listening to this conversation thank you!
I thought so as well. But you can tell he’s a little leaning towards bias against putin. He does see all leaders the same as psychopathic egomaniacs. But I remember a peaceful russia before the US overthrew the Ukrainian leader and tried to install a nato base 80km from russia border in crimea. Poke me in the eyes and then when I smack you call me aggressive
They’re mostly great… however they’re chat with David Pakman was severely weak.. they bent over too quickly without challenging Pakman/ holding him to account for his view points
@@mycarispassat they are interviewers and good ones on that note ,they gave him questions and let him unpack his thoughts, they didn't need to challenge him on anything really he exposed himself all on his own I found
Really?What a toxic guest. Where did Joe find this guy? From that CIA school in Georgia that trains future Latin American dictators. All he does is gush the US military industrial state narrative. It is his thinking that will bring us to the verge of nuclear war - Russia, since ever, trusts no-one and wants to survive and they have learned both over centuries of wars launched against them.
"80% of Russians get their news from tv" Even he wasn't able to say this with a straight face :D Even if it was so, how much mainstream media on the internet in the West is different from legacy TV?
when joe said "people in russia are not exposed to the free flaw of information we got in the west" i laughed the last 4 years can be summed up as creating a progressive iron curtain in the west that you can only see information approved by the mainstream media, youtube is a great example of that, the list of "Tiananmen square" events that you cant talk about on youtube keeps increasing every day as they keep changing the rules every time something new happens.
I don't know about all Russians, but the ones in Ukraine, especially in the Donbas, get their news mostly from the likes of Россия-1, a channel which produces nothing but poison.
@@FrankieBoyThe1NdOnly I can't follow your point, it just means that the old population is very receptive for kremlin talking points. Young russians or a lot of them inform themselves and see things very differentiated. I suggest the RU-vid channel 1420 👍
